Guys who have used Seeking Arrangements and done Sugar dating, experiences?

[BillyPilgrim]

I just had a short call with my buddy who uses SeekingA and he tells me to proactively put on your profile you are not seeking PPM and vet out girls who might be escorts, call girls, or OnlyFans models, all of which Miami is overrun with. So far on the site I have gotten 5 numbers from what are verified profiles. The strategy my buddy proposes is a "meet and greet" where you have a date with a girl and try to know her better, he claims that if your game is tight and she is into you, it practically becomes a date off of any dating app except you obviously pay for her meal.

Apparently even on the site, PPMs are illegal so you can report accounts for even proposing that on the site.

I don't look to dish out serious money on the site but I will experiment with it and report back to you guys. In the case that I do manage to get a date off of it and have it turn into something other than Sugar Dating, I will share a report for you guys and @Dash Riprock can give feedback or advice as needed.

Edit:

A lot of fake profiles to weed through!

I'd be hesitant with the verified profiles, imo it signifies they're serious, as in a serious Golddigger. On Tinder, the verified women tend to be a little more difficult.

 

[Solomon]

I tried SA once, and never went out with anyone. I just couldn't bring myself to pay money for a girl to go out with me. There were some very attractive girls and they try a helluva lot harder in communicating on the site than some random bumble chic.

I've got a buddy that has dated several girls off SA. Most of the time he bought them shoes, dresses, purses, etc. Really didn't spend much. He had two that he dated for almost a year and didn't spend anything on them after the first month or so other than going out to eat/getting drinks. Both were exclusive relationships.

The other girl he dated was a really hot p0rnstar that did lesbian p0rn. She was straight up crazy deluxe and insecure.

He talked good, was in good shape, and didn't spend
much with any of them. So it can be done.

Honestly, I rather drive 2-3 hours to get laid from a Tinder chick(not saying I do) than to pay for a woman's purse and rent that's just me though

 

[SW15]

The strategy my buddy proposes is a "meet and greet" where you have a date with a girl and try to know her better, he claims that if your game is tight and she is into you, it practically becomes a date off of any dating app except you obviously pay for her meal.

In dates off of Tinder, Bumble, or Hinge, most men are paying for most women's meal or drinks at the bar.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

The strategy my buddy proposes is a "meet and greet" where you have a date with a girl and try to know her better, he claims that if your game is tight and she is into you, it practically becomes a date off of any dating app except you obviously pay for her meal.

Followed by rum and coke with a balcony view. Do this Jesse.

 

[Gamisch]

2. Lots of older women on the app too (30+) but they all seem to have their $hit together, maybe they can fake it because they are sugar babies but some have their LinkedIn connected to the app and seem to be in great positions. Strange.

I couldn't wrap my mind around the second point. A woman in a great position thus earning more than average being on this site. But i assume its just greedy eternal single women wanting more than they deserve.

By the way, got curious about what it was and found this gem

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I couldn't wrap my mind around the second point. A woman in a great position thus earning more than average being on this site. But i assume its just greedy eternal single women wanting more than they deserve.

By the way, got curious about what it was and found this gem View attachment 10401

Those high earning women often lead empty lives outside of their consumerism so more money is a way to help fill the hole

 

[Dash Riprock]

I would love to hear how @Dash Riprock managed to not pay out of his a$$ for this site but will keep everyone posted as well.

To clarify, I paid the membership fee for the site, but not the girls for their "time."

 

[Dash Riprock]

‘very good looking’ guys get it for free. Unless they have a fetish for this. Why would they use this service?

Because these are the types of hot women that are DTF and have fun and like mature men rather than the princess b*tches most guys settle for and chase on normal dating sites.

 

[Dash Riprock]

How do you get around the issue if they ask you for money before sex? I'm sure that's happened before

*takes notes*

I filter those types out. The ones that never bring it up are just out for a good time.

 

[The Duke]

One of my buddy's SA girls never wanted any money nor gifts from him. He asked her why she was on the site, and her reply was "I wanted a guy that had money, nice lifestyle and could pay for nice dinners/dates. I didn't want some broke dihk".

 

[Gamisch]

One of my buddy's SA girls never wanted any money nor gifts from him. He asked her why she was on the site, and her reply was "I wanted a guy that had money, nice lifestyle and could pay for nice dinners/dates. I didn't want some broke dihk".

I can vividly imagine a dating environment where as a man you shouldn't even bother with OLD unless you can make an account on SA and actually live up to the standard.

Where the "better" women skip normal OLD and go straight for the top of the top guys. Dont know yet how to feel bout this...at lesst I am working my up so I can decide whether I want to be there or not.

 

[eli77]

I Know some guys who have done, it's a degenerate rabbit-hole OP.
I remember talking to a buddy of mine and he mentioned something I found very interesting. The same girls on these sugardaddies sites that want their rent/bills paid for are the same girls looking for love on Tinder/bumble. Imagine the girl won't give you the time of day Unless you go "Zion WIlliamson" on her(for those that don't know Zion Williamson is a 22 year old 2-time All-star NBA player who allegedly is paying an ex-run-through pornstar a 107K allowance a month)

There is a guy who has to pay and a guy who gets it for free, why pay for something you can get for free?

Love it.

 

[eli77]

I get it, I am going to set up an account soon though and report on what happens. It really speaks to things that a guy like me who just two years ago had 100+ matches on all of the major apps (Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge) is now having to resort to going to Seeking Arrangements. Part of it is how strict the major apps have become in terms of handing out shadowbans and the fact that you can no longer reset your profile after you get new pics done.

TBH, at best it ends up being a temporary thing until I can get my cold approach routine going again. May was a major beatdown for me in terms of how draining it was. A man can no longer rely on wingmen anymore as most of his fellow men are toxic draining whiners that have zero value to add. One way or another, I will crawl out of my predicament and come back even stronger.

Can I ask you a question what is your background with your mother might as well straight christian who didn't allow smoking or drinking it seems to me that you may have some mommy issues no joking and i'm not trying to offend you.

 

[eli77]

I talked to my friend a bit more about it and he said that most apps that are going to go big in the dating space in the future are going to be sugar dating apps anyways. I was a bit worried in the sense that I thought he might be giving up but he said that any guy with money is doing themselves a serious disservice by not trying it. Then he showed me some of the quality he has been with and I was a bit amazed. I sound naive here but I have never seen an escort and don't even know how that works so I thought Seeking Arrangements was practically a website for escorts.

Given my rough go at the dating apps, other than hinge (which is still inconsistent), this is something I am thinking of considering. Hopefully some wise souls here can give me good reasons not to.

Weather is set to be crap in Miami this month as it rained all days at a time last week in the city and June is set to see tons of thunderstorms and rain which also get in the way of daygame.

I'm in miami why haven't you reached out to me whether is spotty but game is game.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Because these are the types of hot women that are DTF and have fun and like mature men rather than the princess b*tches most guys settle for and chase on normal dating sites.

I’ve been off the market for about: 3 years now. So maybe things have changed.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I'm in miami why haven't you reached out to me whether is spotty but game is game.

Don't take this personal man but at this point, I just have to for your own good.

So I have politely told you that I am not interested in meeting up in the past whenever you have DM'd me but apparently that doesn't work with you. For starters, I don't use wingmen anymore, even if I am in a slump. For you specifically, I have found your behavior off-putting, problematic, and representative of what is wrong with the game community and why I no longer use wings. I told you politely, many times over DM, that I am not interested in winging with you but still you continue to pester me time and time and time again. If I could have done a better job in telling you no, tell me how.

This shows clinginess and desperation, we haven't even met so I don't want to imagine how bad this would be if I was to even give you a chance. Even if I was accepting a new wingman, I would have turned you down for that alone. Work on this. Also, weren't you dealing with legal issues and needing legal advice a while back? Whatever happened to that? If I was dealing with something as serious as that, I would not even be on a game community. FFS, even though I had no financial problems, I got off of game when I did not have a steady income coming in.

Now some advice for you in the future. If you really wanted me or anyone on here to network with you or meet up, here is what you should have done.

1. Provided value through quality advice, consistently, so people have a reason to continue seeking help from you.

2. Started a field report thread, talked about the approaches you have done, and share your successes and failures.

Overtime, everyone would have wanted to proactively meet up with you. Instead you continued to pester people time and time and time again when they politely turned you down to the point they got annoyed.

 

[Dash Riprock]

I’ve been off the market for about: 3 years now. So maybe things have changed.

These sites are not for finding gf's though I've had a few who said they'd like to "date." But they are fun and the s*x can be easy if you play it right. 80% of the women are smoking hot too. Have fun with it.

 

[eli77]

Don't take this personal man but at this point, I just have to for your own good.

So I have politely told you that I am not interested in meeting up in the past whenever you have DM'd me but apparently that doesn't work with you. For starters, I don't use wingmen anymore, even if I am in a slump. For you specifically, I have found your behavior off-putting, problematic, and representative of what is wrong with the game community and why I no longer use wings. I told you politely, many times over DM, that I am not interested in winging with you but still you continue to pester me time and time and time again. If I could have done a better job in telling you no, tell me how.

This shows clinginess and desperation, we haven't even met so I don't want to imagine how bad this would be if I was to even give you a chance. Even if I was accepting a new wingman, I would have turned you down for that alone. Work on this. Also, weren't you dealing with legal issues and needing legal advice a while back? Whatever happened to that? If I was dealing with something as serious as that, I would not even be on a game community. FFS, even though I had no financial problems, I got off of game when I did not have a steady income coming in.

Now some advice for you in the future. If you really wanted me or anyone on here to network with you or meet up, here is what you should have done.

1. Provided value through quality advice, consistently, so people have a reason to continue seeking help from you.

2. Started a field report thread, talked about the approaches you have done, and share your successes and failures.

Overtime, everyone would have wanted to proactively meet up with you. Instead you continued to pester people time and time and time again when they politely turned you down to the point they got annoyed.

To each its own I really spend time on here but just wanted to bend an ear.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

To each its own I really spend time on here but just wanted to bend an ear.

Do not take what I said as an insult man, even if I sounded harsh, but I am genuinely trying to help you. I know I went on a rant because I have dealt with so many crappy wings that ruined my game sessions in recent weeks. Please take my feedback serious bro, I bet if you started a cold approach log right now on this forum and had it go for 20+ pages of you taking action, dudes would proactively reach out to network with you and meet up. I have had this happened plenty of times since I did my field report thread.

I really meant well and hope your legal case goes for the best.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

To clarify, I paid the membership fee for the site, but not the girls for their "time."

Yeah, I had to filter those out hard but I think it could be a location thing. In South Florida, the Sugar Dating culture is more prominent than maybe anywhere else in the country. You get a lot of older guys who are retired with women who are just waiting for them to pass so they can inherit their stuff. Tons of simps willing to please her so women feel entitled to a PPM.