Guys who have used Seeking Arrangements and done Sugar dating, experiences?

Dash Riprock

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I've had huge fun and success on SA (now Seeking) and SDM. I've banged many women half my age or younger and aside from the drinks and maybe food on a date, didn't pay any $.

BUT, there are some distinct reasons why, so if you're easily offended, stop reading here.

The lowdown on SA and SDM:
The women are very hot and DTF. But they are mostly messed up and really bad prospects for girlfriends and or even multiple dates. It's strictly for ONS, s*x, and maybe STRs.

It's a very shallow site so LMS are everything. They want older guys who:
Are very good looking.
Are in very good shape.
Have charisma and charm and know how to plan a date and function as an adult on a date.
Have a career, $, property--basically have their s*it together 100%.

I would meet the girls in public, have drinks and apps, show them a good time (have fun and keep them laughing) and then invite them over. 100% took me up on the offer. 100% had s*x. It was much, much easier than conventinal OLD sites, but the girls know what the deal is too. But, like I said, I usually didn't see them again or may one or twice after that. There is one I really like, and despite the boyfriends she's has, she always comes over when asked and has sex. Sometimes we go months without communizing, then reconnect.

There you have it.

Good luck.
 

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But they are mostly messed up and really bad prospects for girlfriends and or even multiple dates. It's strictly for ONS, s*x, and maybe STRs.

It's a very shallow site so LMS are everything. They want older guys who:
Are very good looking.
Are in very good shape.
Have charisma and charm and know how to plan a date and function as an adult on a date.
Have a career, $, property--basically have their s*it together 100%.

I would meet the girls in public, have drinks and apps, show them a good time (have fun and keep them laughing) and then invite them over. 100% took me up on the offer. 100% had s*x.
Career, $ and property for an ONS with a hoe? :rolleyes: All one actually needs from your description is enough money to pay for the date and rent a hotel room.
 

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I've had huge fun and success on SA (now Seeking) and SDM. I've banged many women half my age or younger and aside from the drinks and maybe food on a date, didn't pay any $.

BUT, there are some distinct reasons why, so if you're easily offended, stop reading here.

The lowdown on SA and SDM:
The women are very hot and DTF. But they are mostly messed up and really bad prospects for girlfriends and or even multiple dates. It's strictly for ONS, s*x, and maybe STRs.

It's a very shallow site so LMS are everything. They want older guys who:
Are very good looking.
Are in very good shape.
Have charisma and charm and know how to plan a date and function as an adult on a date.
Have a career, $, property--basically have their s*it together 100%.

I would meet the girls in public, have drinks and apps, show them a good time (have fun and keep them laughing) and then invite them over. 100% took me up on the offer. 100% had s*x. It was much, much easier than conventinal OLD sites, but the girls know what the deal is too. But, like I said, I usually didn't see them again or may one or twice after that. There is one I really like, and despite the boyfriends she's has, she always comes over when asked and has sex. Sometimes we go months without communizing, then reconnect.

There you have it.

Good luck.
How do you get around the issue if they ask you for money before sex? I'm sure that's happened before

*takes notes*
 

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I've had huge fun and success on SA (now Seeking) and SDM. I've banged many women half my age or younger and aside from the drinks and maybe food on a date, didn't pay any $.

BUT, there are some distinct reasons why, so if you're easily offended, stop reading here.

The lowdown on SA and SDM:
The women are very hot and DTF. But they are mostly messed up and really bad prospects for girlfriends and or even multiple dates. It's strictly for ONS, s*x, and maybe STRs.

It's a very shallow site so LMS are everything. They want older guys who:
Are very good looking.
Are in very good shape.
Have charisma and charm and know how to plan a date and function as an adult on a date.
Have a career, $, property--basically have their s*it together 100%.

I would meet the girls in public, have drinks and apps, show them a good time (have fun and keep them laughing) and then invite them over. 100% took me up on the offer. 100% had s*x. It was much, much easier than conventinal OLD sites, but the girls know what the deal is too. But, like I said, I usually didn't see them again or may one or twice after that. There is one I really like, and despite the boyfriends she's has, she always comes over when asked and has sex. Sometimes we go months without communizing, then reconnect.

There you have it.

Good luck.
‘very good looking’ guys get it for free. Unless they have a fetish for this. Why would they use this service?
 

Jesse Pinkman

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‘very good looking’ guys get it for free. Unless they have a fetish for this. Why would they use this service?
Not my experience at all even knowing guys that model. Most hot guys who pull off of looks alone are dumpster diving for desperate 6s. That is why you see so many hot guys with busted GFs.
 

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Not my experience at all even knowing guys that model. Most hot guys who pull off of looks alone are dumpster diving for desperate 6s. That is why you see so many hot guys with busted GFs.
Hey Jesse you know I love your posts, I'm just curious what you find a 6, reason being is I'm pretty sure a NYC/Miami 6 isn't the same as a Iowa/Ohio 6
 

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Hey Jesse you know I love your posts, I'm just curious what you find a 6, reason being is I'm pretty sure a NYC/Miami 6 isn't the same as a Iowa/Ohio 6
A relatively average looking girl that does not have a busted up face and is not fat, that is a 6 these days be it NYC, Miami, or Dayton, OH.
 

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can you post an example of a picture?
This is what I would consider a Minneapolis 6

I would give her more of a 7.

A 6 is basically average in many ways and has no outstanding features.

Give me some time to find a pic and I will get back to you but that woman is easily a 7 or above in most US cities, especially NYC and Miami.
 

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A 6 is basically average in many ways and has no outstanding features.
I consider 5 to be average on a 1-10 scale. A 6 is in the slightly cute range.

This is what I would consider a Minneapolis 6

Give me some time to find a pic and I will get back to you but that woman is easily a 7 or above in most US cities, especially NYC and Miami.
This woman would be somewhere in my cute range, which I consider 6-7.9. This woman specifically would be closer to 6-6.5 if her weight is normal. Since this is not a full body picture, it is not possible to determine her weight.

I think most men would rate her somewhere in the 5.5 - 7.5 range with a full body picture and BMI in the normal weight range. I think there'd be a consensus that she is cute.

A relatively average looking girl that does not have a busted up face and is not fat, that is a 6 these days be it NYC, Miami, or Dayton, OH.
That's close to my definition of a 6.
 

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Only read first few posts, but why not give it a try? I’ve wondered if “AdultFriendFinder” is legit.

I’ve daydreamed about moving to LA and producing my own private porn. I want to hire talent at my discretion and pay for exactly what I want, when I want.

As a bonus I would have a database of fukc tapes to watch when I’m old and/or broke.

I don’t mind paying for convenience, if it is within my means.
 

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Caught up with an old friend on Sunday for drinks who used to be a regular wing of mines when I first started doing daygame. I shared my online dating decline with him to where Hinge is the only good app for me and I am pretty sure I have a strong shadowban on Bumble and Tinder. My friend is in his late 20s but well off financially, he has a pretty decent net worth and I will leave it at that.

We used to nightgame together on and off as well as daygame together a few weeks early last year. He told me that he also experienced a period in his life where due to traveling, he could not get a regular game schedule going anymore. Then, Tinder and Bumble went stale for him as well. So he gave Seeking Arrangements a shot and said that it was legit. He said he would never use it as his main source of getting women but if you want quality and are picky, you can get the occasional FWB or f*ckbuddy off of it.

I always thought that it was borderline illegal as an app and is practically like seeing an escort but did not want to have this conversation with him in public at a bar that was relatively quiet.

For the guys here who have used Seeking Arrangements and done Sugar dating before, is there any legitimacy to it?
It's just an alternate form of EscortMaxxing. :rolleyes:
 

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Only read first few posts, but why not give it a try? I’ve wondered if “AdultFriendFinder” is legit.

I’ve daydreamed about moving to LA and producing my own private porn. I want to hire talent at my discretion and pay for exactly what I want, when I want.

As a bonus I would have a database of fukc tapes to watch when I’m old and/or broke.

I don’t mind paying for convenience, if it is within my means.
Kinda like those Back Room Casting movies on p*rnhub? Except 90 percent of those women he bangs are sub 6s. Mostly trashy looking women.
 

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I have a friend who is using a site now. I am pretty surprised at the quality on there

he has more money to burn than most of is but has never had much confidence with women so this has been good for him and he is having a blast

its also helping him get over a bad case of oneitis he had for one woman
 

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This here is a fatty, check out the natural droop to her shoulders having to heave up the big-ass arms and torso. She could be busty, but normally they'd show off the rack.
 

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I’ve daydreamed about moving to LA and producing my own private porn. I want to hire talent at my discretion and pay for exactly what I want, when I want.

As a bonus I would have a database of fukc tapes to watch when I’m old and/or broke.
I've had passing thoughts about becoming an onlyfans "content creator" to "collaborate" with female "content creators" in a niche area like bondage or something.
 

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I tried SA once, and never went out with anyone. I just couldn't bring myself to pay money for a girl to go out with me. There were some very attractive girls and they try a helluva lot harder in communicating on the site than some random bumble chic.

I've got a buddy that has dated several girls off SA. Most of the time he bought them shoes, dresses, purses, etc. Really didn't spend much. He had two that he dated for almost a year and didn't spend anything on them after the first month or so other than going out to eat/getting drinks. Both were exclusive relationships.

The other girl he dated was a really hot p0rnstar that did lesbian p0rn. She was straight up crazy deluxe and insecure.

He talked good, was in good shape, and didn't spend
much with any of them. So it can be done.
 
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I talked to my friend a bit more about it and he said that most apps that are going to go big in the dating space in the future are going to be sugar dating apps anyways. I was a bit worried in the sense that I thought he might be giving up but he said that any guy with money is doing themselves a serious disservice by not trying it. Then he showed me some of the quality he has been with and I was a bit amazed. I sound naive here but I have never seen an escort and don't even know how that works so I thought Seeking Arrangements was practically a website for escorts.

Given my rough go at the dating apps, other than hinge (which is still inconsistent), this is something I am thinking of considering. Hopefully some wise souls here can give me good reasons not to.

Girl I was dating last year was on these sites , she Never told me though and it took me a good few months to figure out where all the expensive "gifts" were coming from I was obviously fvcking her for free but it still turned me off her when I eventually figured it out

Until that point I hadn't realised just how much this culture had infiltrated modern society

Women especially young ones have effectively fully commoditised their value now and are capitalising on it via these sugar baby sites

I dug Into it a bit and your friend is right , the quality women with a bit of sense have realised the generic and standard dating apps are just full of low value needy men that can offer them little

They've worked out if they are going to put themselves on the market they want higher value buyers ( rich / high status men)

During my research I was led to believe the initial few meets with these girls are just drinks and dinner etc ( normal dating )

Then obviously the older guys wanting pu$$y start lavshing them with gifts and holidays in exchange for it

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I have to admit I am tempted to try and game the system here , I may just sign up to these sites and pose as a sugar daddy see what sort of women are available

I would bet good money they will be hell of a lot better than anything you can find on tinder or bumble ( which you are indirectly paying for anyway)

Welcome to the commodification of society
 

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Girl I was dating last year was on these sites , she Never told me though and it took me a good few months to figure out where all the expensive "gifts" were coming from I was obviously fvcking her for free but it still turned me off her when I eventually figured it out

Until that point I hadn't realised just how much this culture had infiltrated modern society

Women especially young ones have effectively fully commoditised their value now and are capitalising on it via these sugar baby sites

I dug Into it a bit and your friend is right , the quality women with a bit of sense have realised the generic and standard dating apps are just full of low value needy men that can offer them little

They've worked out if they are going to put themselves on the market they want higher value buyers ( rich / high status men)

During my research I was led to believe the initial few meets with these girls are just drinks and dinner etc ( normal dating )

Then obviously the older guys wanting pu$$y start lavshing them with gifts and holidays in exchange for it

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I have to admit I am tempted to try and game the system here , I may just sign up to these sites and pose as a sugar daddy see what sort of women are available

I would bet good money they will be hell of a lot better than anything you can find on tinder or bumble ( which you are indirectly paying for anyway)

Welcome to the commodification of society
it only made sense to reach this point :)

no one likes losers
 
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