Guys who have used Seeking Arrangements and done Sugar dating, experiences?

[Jesse Pinkman]

Caught up with an old friend on Sunday for drinks who used to be a regular wing of mines when I first started doing daygame. I shared my online dating decline with him to where Hinge is the only good app for me and I am pretty sure I have a strong shadowban on Bumble and Tinder. My friend is in his late 20s but well off financially, he has a pretty decent net worth and I will leave it at that.

We used to nightgame together on and off as well as daygame together a few weeks early last year. He told me that he also experienced a period in his life where due to traveling, he could not get a regular game schedule going anymore. Then, Tinder and Bumble went stale for him as well. So he gave Seeking Arrangements a shot and said that it was legit. He said he would never use it as his main source of getting women but if you want quality and are picky, you can get the occasional FWB or f*ckbuddy off of it.

I always thought that it was borderline illegal as an app and is practically like seeing an escort but did not want to have this conversation with him in public at a bar that was relatively quiet.

For the guys here who have used Seeking Arrangements and done Sugar dating before, is there any legitimacy to it?

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I talked to my friend a bit more about it and he said that most apps that are going to go big in the dating space in the future are going to be sugar dating apps anyways. I was a bit worried in the sense that I thought he might be giving up but he said that any guy with money is doing themselves a serious disservice by not trying it. Then he showed me some of the quality he has been with and I was a bit amazed. I sound naive here but I have never seen an escort and don't even know how that works so I thought Seeking Arrangements was practically a website for escorts.

Given my rough go at the dating apps, other than hinge (which is still inconsistent), this is something I am thinking of considering. Hopefully some wise souls here can give me good reasons not to.

Weather is set to be crap in Miami this month as it rained all days at a time last week in the city and June is set to see tons of thunderstorms and rain which also get in the way of daygame.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

If you're going to Salt Daddy in Miami, ffs get some coke Jesse.

It's like having a six pack of abs on the beach vs having a farmer's tan.

No half measures.

Why do you think there's a huge city there to begin with? Miami was built during the 70's and 80's.

Not suggesting anything illegal.

 

[corrector]

but I have never seen an escort and don't even know how that works

You've never gamed an escort before?

 

[NealIRC]

Where do find women for daygame, that want a sugar daddy?

 

[corrector]

The ghetto.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

You know.... back in the day, during WW2 and a couple of years after, this was a real thing here in my area.

Men were in war or had fallen and women turned to sugar dating to feed themselves and the kids if they had any.

At that time it literally was dating for sugar, wheat, bread, eggs, milk. Guys with spare resources that dodged the drafts had a good time back then.


Of course the quality of women was different back then. Today they dont fvck to survive but because they are lazy hoes or golddiggers.

That said..... in the end most men in LTRs end up being the sugar daddy, while women drain their resources.

 

[Solomon]

I Know some guys who have done, it's a degenerate rabbit-hole OP.
I remember talking to a buddy of mine and he mentioned something I found very interesting. The same girls on these sugardaddies sites that want their rent/bills paid for are the same girls looking for love on Tinder/bumble. Imagine the girl won't give you the time of day Unless you go "Zion WIlliamson" on her(for those that don't know Zion Williamson is a 22 year old 2-time All-star NBA player who allegedly is paying an ex-run-through pornstar a 107K allowance a month)

There is a guy who has to pay and a guy who gets it for free, why pay for something you can get for free?

 

[NealIRC]

There is a guy who has to pay and a guy who gets it for free, why pay for something you can get for free?

Because nothing is completely for free.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I Know some guys who have done, it's a degenerate rabbit-hole OP.
I remember talking to a buddy of mine and he mentioned something I found very interesting. The same girls on these sugardaddies sites that want their rent/bills paid for are the same girls looking for love on Tinder/bumble. Imagine the girl won't give you the time of day Unless you go "Zion WIlliamson" on her(for those that don't know Zion Williamson is a 22 year old 2-time All-star NBA player who allegedly is paying an ex-run-through pornstar a 107K allowance a month)

There is a guy who has to pay and a guy who gets it for free, why pay for something you can get for free?

I briefly tried Seeking and I definitely saw some of the same girls I saw on OLD. Absolute clowns. Most women are on ****ing everything, multiple dating apps, all social media, they're junkies, they cannot get enough attention or options.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I Know some guys who have done, it's a degenerate rabbit-hole OP.
I remember talking to a buddy of mine and he mentioned something I found very interesting. The same girls on these sugardaddies sites that want their rent/bills paid for are the same girls looking for love on Tinder/bumble. Imagine the girl won't give you the time of day Unless you go "Zion WIlliamson" on her(for those that don't know Zion Williamson is a 22 year old 2-time All-star NBA player who allegedly is paying an ex-run-through pornstar a 107K allowance a month)

There is a guy who has to pay and a guy who gets it for free, why pay for something you can get for free?

Because the "free" option has shadowbanned you to where your profile does not even appear for most women in most cases and in order to make anything of the "free" option, you have to pay for boosts or the premium version of the site. Then add to that the fact that you are paying on most dates in most cases anyways.

Ideally, I use online dating as a supplement but as of late, the apps have been so wrecked that I have started to consider my buddy's advice. I do not want to buy a new cellphone and get a new number because Tinder and Bumble decided to shadowban me.

 

[corrector]

Because the "free" option has shadowbanned you to where your profile does not even appear for most women in most cases and in order to make anything of the "free" option, you have to pay for boosts or the premium version of the site. Then add to that the fact that you are paying on most dates in most cases anyways.

Ideally, I use online dating as a supplement but as of late, the apps have been so wrecked that I have started to consider my buddy's advice. I do not want to buy a new cellphone and get a new number because Tinder and Bumble decided to shadowban me.

You have to pay for it now.

 

[Dr.Suave]

I honestly think you should give it a try @Jesse Pinkman

Worst case scenario is you decide that its not your thing and continue to explore other markets.

 

[Solomon]

Because nothing is completely for free.

Well you're right you pay with dates or the most valuable thing your time. But I rather pay with my time than open my wallet up to give a woman $1000 for 10 minutes of impassionate sex

Because the "free" option has shadowbanned you to where your profile does not even appear for most women in most cases and in order to make anything of the "free" option, you have to pay for boosts or the premium version of the site. Then add to that the fact that you are paying on most dates in most cases anyways.

Ideally, I use online dating as a supplement but as of late, the apps have been so wrecked that I have started to consider my buddy's advice. I do not want to buy a new cellphone and get a new number because Tinder and Bumble decided to shadowban me.

I don't disagree with you regarding OLD being trash, but I'm telling you OP it's a degenerate rabbit hole. I know a guy who was doing the salt dating than he just went to full blown tricking(he quit awhile ago when he found a girlfriend IRL)

just a word of caution

 

[I_have_BDE]

Well you're right you pay with dates or the most valuable thing your time. But I rather pay with my time than open my wallet up to give a woman $1000 for 10 minutes of impassionate sex



I don't disagree with you regarding OLD being trash, but I'm telling you OP it's a degenerate rabbit hole. I know a guy who was doing the salt dating than he just went to full blown tricking(he quit awhile ago when he found a girlfriend IRL)

just a word of caution

So if you were a millionaire, you wouldn't pay $1000 even if the woman was Margot Robbie????

 

[SW15]

I use online dating as a supplement but as of late, the apps have been so wrecked that I have started to consider my buddy's advice. I do not want to buy a new cellphone and get a new number because Tinder and Bumble decided to shadowban me.

Stick with your real life stranger approaching methods.

 

[radha]

I talked to my friend a bit more about it and he said that most apps that are going to go big in the dating space in the future are going to be sugar dating apps anyways. I was a bit worried in the sense that I thought he might be giving up but he said that any guy with money is doing themselves a serious disservice by not trying it. Then he showed me some of the quality he has been with and I was a bit amazed. I sound naive here but I have never seen an escort and don't even know how that works so I thought Seeking Arrangements was practically a website for escorts.

Given my rough go at the dating apps, other than hinge (which is still inconsistent), this is something I am thinking of considering. Hopefully some wise souls here can give me good reasons not to.

Weather is set to be crap in Miami this month as it rained all days at a time last week in the city and June is set to see tons of thunderstorms and rain which also get in the way of daygame.

I don't think sugar dating apps are going to go mainstream any time soon because they are banned by both apple and android. The huge downside of sugar dating is it gives you an unrealistic standard for any real non sugar relationships you might have in the future. The sugar babies basically do whatever you want whenever you want. You will get used to that but then when you have an actual relationship which requires a ton of compromise and seeing things through someone else's eyes you will have zero patience for it because you are accustomed to getting whatever you want whenever you want from your sugar gf's.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I don't disagree with you regarding OLD being trash, but I'm telling you OP it's a degenerate rabbit hole. I know a guy who was doing the salt dating than he just went to full blown tricking(he quit awhile ago when he found a girlfriend IRL)

just a word of caution

I get it, I am going to set up an account soon though and report on what happens. It really speaks to things that a guy like me who just two years ago had 100+ matches on all of the major apps (Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge) is now having to resort to going to Seeking Arrangements. Part of it is how strict the major apps have become in terms of handing out shadowbans and the fact that you can no longer reset your profile after you get new pics done.

TBH, at best it ends up being a temporary thing until I can get my cold approach routine going again. May was a major beatdown for me in terms of how draining it was. A man can no longer rely on wingmen anymore as most of his fellow men are toxic draining whiners that have zero value to add. One way or another, I will crawl out of my predicament and come back even stronger.

 

[Solomon]

So if you were a millionaire, you wouldn't pay $1000 even if the woman was Margot Robbie????

I think Margot Robbie would want more than a $1000
When I am a millionaire I would just find a hot Colombian(or Habesha) wife in Colombia and call it a day

 

[I_have_BDE]

I think Margot Robbie would want more than a $1000
When I am a millionaire I would just find a hot Colombian(or Habesha) wife in Colombia and call it a day

If you offered 5k would she do anal?