Just a quick reminder for all you Christians out here...

[PeasantPlayer]

Jimmy Swaggart did too. Ultimately it doesn't mean ****. The thief next to Christ on the cross knew him for how long?

Lol, give it up religion is dying soon it'll check in and it will be lying on its deathbed. The more historical information comes out the more it begins to unravel

 

[PeasantPlayer]

My sources are vetted valid and the only sources here a vague random scriptures, conspiracy theory and some dude obsessed with what his dad says

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Jimmy Swaggart did too. Ultimately it doesn't mean ****. The thief next to Christ on the cross knew him for how long?

You can study the bible for 30 years and know zero about the history and origin of various religions and how they interplay with the societies.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I hate to break it to you dude, but there’s more Christians who made a living off of actually being Christian (priests, pastors, etc. ) than there are those who attack it. Those who believed in it are far more well-versed in it than atheists who criticize it. You think 30 years of this new age atheism can compete with the 2000+ years of Christianity? Lol sorry bud, not buying it. There may be some flaws with Christianity, but most of them (if not all of them) are due to human error than issues with the true teachings of Jesus himself.

How do the teachings of jesus fare in an unjust and politicized environment?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Lol, give it up religion is dying soon it'll check in and it will be lying on its deathbed. The more historical information comes out the more it begins to unravel

It’s just getting more polarized. You either believe or disbelieve, no in between. That’s just what’s happening right now.

My sources are vetted valid and the only sources here a vague random scriptures, conspiracy theory and some dude obsessed with what his dad says

You’re sources equate human/scribal error to being that Jesus never existed. That’s a conspiracy theory in and of itself dude. Secular historians note Jesus had lived lol they just don’t comment on whether he performed miracles or not. And all those false/misattributions they make correlating an aspect of Christianity to the Magians honestly sounds like apophenia to me:

*God exists in Zoroastrianism*
*God also exists in Christianity*
*PeasantPlayer realizing that Zoroastrianism is older than Christianity*
“ChRiStiAniTy sToLe fRoM ZoRoAStRiAniSm!!1!1!1!1 ChRiStiAniTy iS fAkE!!!11!1!1!1!111111”

How do the teachings of jesus fare in an unjust and politicized environment?

Decent because people will love it, but in the end it’ll lose. Christianity teaches pacifism, with their depiction of Jesus dying on the cross being the epitome of that. While peace, love, and happiness is great and all, it fails to consider the fact that at some point in time, a bad person is going to be more willing to harm them than they’d be willing to save him. And if, somehow, they still are willing to save him as much as he’s willing to harm them, they’d all just die. In other words, Christianity is against violence so much to where it doesn’t believe in self-defense (and again, they believe in Jesus dying on the cross as being a prime example of that). This isn’t viable long-term.

 

[lamath]

It’s just getting more polarized. You either believe or disbelieve, no in between. That’s just what’s happening right now.

You’re sources equate human/scribal error to being that Jesus never existed. That’s a conspiracy theory in and of itself dude. Secular historians note Jesus had lived lol they just don’t comment on whether he performed miracles or not. And all those false/misattributions they make correlating an aspect of Christianity to the Magians honestly sounds like apophenia to me:

*God exists in Zoroastrianism*
*God also exists in Christianity*
*PeasantPlayer realizing that Zoroastrianism is older than Christianity*
“ChRiStiAniTy sToLe fRoM ZoRoAStRiAniSm!!1!1!1!1 ChRiStiAniTy iS fAkE!!!11!1!1!1!111111”

Decent because people will love it, but in the end it’ll lose. Christianity teaches pacifism, with their depiction of Jesus dying on the cross being the epitome of that. While peace, love, and happiness is great and all, it fails to consider the fact that at some point in time, a bad person is going to be more willing to harm them than they’d be willing to save him. And if, somehow, they still are willing to save him as much as he’s willing to harm them, they’d all just die. In other words, Christianity is against violence so much to where it doesn’t believe in self-defense (and again, they believe in Jesus dying on the cross as being a prime example of that). This isn’t viable long-term.

This is why many credit the rise of Christianity and thier passivity in the Roman Empire as one of the few factors ithat brought thier downfall.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It’s just getting more polarized. You either believe or disbelieve, no in between. That’s just what’s happening right now.

You’re sources equate human/scribal error to being that Jesus never existed. That’s a conspiracy theory in and of itself dude. Secular historians note Jesus had lived lol they just don’t comment on whether he performed miracles or not. And all those false/misattributions they make correlating an aspect of Christianity to the Magians honestly sounds like apophenia to me:

*God exists in Zoroastrianism*
*God also exists in Christianity*
*PeasantPlayer realizing that Zoroastrianism is older than Christianity*
“ChRiStiAniTy sToLe fRoM ZoRoAStRiAniSm!!1!1!1!1 ChRiStiAniTy iS fAkE!!!11!1!1!1!111111”

Decent because people will love it, but in the end it’ll lose. Christianity teaches pacifism, with their depiction of Jesus dying on the cross being the epitome of that. While peace, love, and happiness is great and all, it fails to consider the fact that at some point in time, a bad person is going to be more willing to harm them than they’d be willing to save him. And if, somehow, they still are willing to save him as much as he’s willing to harm them, they’d all just die. In other words, Christianity is against violence so much to where it doesn’t believe in self-defense (and again, they believe in Jesus dying on the cross as being a prime example of that). This isn’t viable long-term .

Dying on the cross represents sacrifice. The old testament details very many stories of dirty politics and underhanded dealings, so it's aware that people will be people. The same sacrifice could mean putting yourself on the line defending your country, or your family. On this earth people have to deal with the situations that are present in their environment, and may have to do some things out of the teachings of Christianity. One can pray on it afterwards.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

This is why many credit the rise of Christianity and thier passivity in the Roman Empire as one of the few factors ithat brought thier downfall.

Yup. Strength, bravery, valor, etc. were all virtues that were cherished by the Romans. But then Christianity began to be abused by those who sought to destroy the Roman Empire (and of course, we blame the Jews for this; I believe it was Nietzsche who gave that example lol) by perpetuating things like “blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth”, and things like that.

Dying on the cross represents sacrifice. The old testament details very many stories of dirty politics and underhanded dealings, so it's aware that people will be people. The same sacrifice could mean putting yourself on the line defending your country, or your family. On this earth people have to deal with the situations that are present in their environment, and may have to do some things out of the teachings of Christianity. One can pray on it afterwards.

You can manipulate religion to be whatever you want it to be really.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

You will find out at some point you cannot. Truth is truth and it will come out. Just because a person falls under the illusion of dying doesn't mean anything of an end.
Energy is everywhere and is mearly transformed.
Maybe you are a larva?
Have you read any about people that have died and lived to tell about it.

Well yeah but that’s why you take the side of truth and admit when you’re wrong. The only way you can manipulate religion is by omitting certain parts of information and misrepresenting others. But the side of truth always takes those into consideration because it’s the true meaning, which is why the smartest of people do tend to believe in a higher power over those who don’t.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

In heaven there is no religion, only families. Whats the point other then your ego?

There is no heaven. Jesus never spoke of heaven, you must of skipped out of the scholarly breakdown of videos I posted. How can there be an afterlife when the energy in your body dies and no longer uses the 5 senses to smell, taste touch, see and hear? Once your body dies it can no longer be able to do any of that anymore. You can't be your thoughts because your thoughts aren't yours. They are programmed stimuli from your current culture and ancestors

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

There is no heaven. Jesus never spoke of heaven, you must of skipped out of the scholarly breakdown of videos I posted. How can there be an afterlife when the energy in your body dies and no longer uses the 5 senses to smell, taste touch, see and hear? Once your body dies it can no longer be able to do any of that anymore. You can't be your thoughts because your thoughts aren't yours. They are programmed stimuli from your current culture and ancestors

I’m sorry bro but this is complete and utter horse****, no offense.

Firstly, we can still use all of our sense while we are asleep and dreaming. I can eat a burger in a dream, and feel it and taste it, etc. even though I’m not actually doing it in real life.

Secondly, you’re basically saying consciousness is tied to the human body which is *also* not true. The cells of my skin, hair, and liver, etc. do not have a consciousness. They are alive, but yet not conscious. How is that? Genomic design doesn’t account for it because not everything that makes up our body is coded into our DNA.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Every theory stands to be tested regardless if it's scientific or spiritual. You have a lot to learn, don't ruin your mind with endless spookism and superstition

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I’m sorry bro but this is complete and utter horse****, no offense.

Firstly, we can still use all of our sense while we are asleep and dreaming. I can eat a burger in a dream, and feel it and taste it, etc. even though I’m not actually doing it in real life.

Secondly, you’re basically saying consciousness is tied to the human body which is *also* not true. The cells of my skin, hair, and liver, etc. do not have a consciousness. They are alive, but yet not conscious. How is that? Genomic design doesn’t account for it because not everything that makes up our body is coded into our DNA.

This further proves my point, our bodies are made up of a host of different DNA, Cells, unique microbe, fungus, bacteria and viruses

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

This further proves my point, our bodies are made up of a host of different DNA, Cells, unique microbe, fungus, bacteria and viruses

No, it negates your point. It’s actually one of the fundamental flaws evolutionary theory. Not everything is coded into our DNA. For example, our body knows how to make fat, but doesn’t have a gene that really codes for it or it’s metabolism. There’s also no gene that codes for how our bodies know how to transport say, calcium to our bones. There’s also the fact that a gene coding for something in one species may code for an entirely different thing in another species (PAX6 codes for eyes in many species but is also found in the genes of other species that don’t even have eyes; researchers then hypothesized that this was because their ancestors had eyes, but then that failed to be true and ended up coding for I believe a leg lol).

That doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface of how cell membranes are formed as well as they are. We can make uniform liposomes, but we can’t even begin to make a cell membrane in all of its complex intricacies with all the transporters on it. We don’t know how transporter proteins can get between the cell membrane, and there are cells that have over 40,000 of them on its surface. Not to mention, the intermolecular forces all PERFECTLY add up to maintain the structure, where even the ****ing Van der Waals forces need to be perfect. And this exists in all of the trillions upon trillions of our cells, not just one. We’re unable to mimic even one of these lol.

Bro I’m sorry but don’t touch the science stuff, I’ve been through hell and back learning about this stuff and used to bring even greater arguments than you can. Evolution is a theoretical impossibility. There’s not enough time for it to have happened, even if every single mutation that humans ever underwent worked to diverge us from chimps (which is Darwinian blasphemy btw). Not to mention, convergent evolution pretty much dismantles the legitimacy of the fossil record which is where most of the ‘evidence’ for evolution comes from. Then there comes the issue of mitochondrial decline even though it’s circular which makes no sense, and the fact that we all are supposed to have the same mitochondria as mitochondrial Eve, which means that humanity should have died out within 1-2 generations but **** it, let’s not even go there.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

No, it negates your point. It’s actually one of the fundamental flaws evolutionary theory. Not everything is coded into our DNA. For example, our body knows how to make fat, but doesn’t have a gene that really codes for it or it’s metabolism. There’s also no gene that codes for how our bodies know how to transport say, calcium to our bones. There’s also the fact that a gene coding for something in one species may code for an entirely different thing in another species (PAX6 codes for eyes in many species but is also found in the genes of other species that don’t even have eyes; researchers then hypothesized that this was because their ancestors had eyes, but then that failed to be true and ended up coding for I believe a leg lol).

That doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface of how cell membranes are formed as well as they are. We can make uniform liposomes, but we can’t even begin to make a cell membrane in all of its complex intricacies with all the transporters on it. We don’t know how transporter proteins can get between the cell membrane, and there are cells that have over 40,000 of them on its surface. Not to mention, the intermolecular forces all PERFECTLY add up to maintain the structure, where even the ****ing Van der Waals forces need to be perfect. And this exists in all of the trillions upon trillions of our cells, not just one. We’re unable to mimic even one of these lol.

Bro I’m sorry but don’t touch the science stuff, I’ve been through hell and back learning about this stuff and used to bring even greater arguments than you can. Evolution is a theoretical impossibility. There’s not enough time for it to have happened, even if every single mutation that humans ever underwent worked to diverge us from chimps (which is Darwinian blasphemy btw). Not to mention, convergent evolution pretty much dismantles the legitimacy of the fossil record which is where most of the ‘evidence’ for evolution comes from. Then there comes the issue of mitochondrial decline even though it’s circular which makes no sense, and the fact that we all are supposed to have the same mitochondria as mitochondrial Eve, which means that humanity should have died out within 1-2 generations but **** it, let’s not even go there.

You're not negating my point at all you keep strengthening it. Who cares what genes do what and who said about evolutionary theory, it's a theory with solid and flimsy evidence, not all components of it are true. You're speaking on some borderline creationists theories, it still doesn't negate the fact that the bible is not factual. If you go to an Amazonian island they never heard of the bible nor any of its contents, so how can we force that point of view on them?
The Bible we have know was voted upon. Books were left out and the ones that made it were edited. Tribes conquered tribes, so the conquered tribes had to take on the religion of the winning tribe and call their king a God. With historical references we know now most of the Bible has been edited, mistranslated for hundreds of years.

You're spitting some old conspiracy theory freemason stuff about lucifer which is not even the devil lol. Are you the only one who didn't know that?

Do you know it was a mistranslation by Jerome. Lucifer is the planet venus the light bringer. If you look on the sky before sunrise you can see it before the sun. The passage in Isiah was about a fallen king. If you read the whole chapter it puts it in to context. The serpent is also not the "devil" hasatan is simply what you called an opponent or adversary. In Hebrew there was not anthromorphic a Satan. The Hebrews believed that evil was an inclination of every human.

If God could send down his son (sun) and have him sacrificed and killed why couldn't he just kill "Satan"?

If Eden was paradise how did the "evil" serpent get in? Wouldn't God know? Lol

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

You're not negating my point at all you keep strengthening it. Who cares what genes do what and who said about evolutionary theory, it's a theory with solid and flimsy evidence, not all components of it are true. You're speaking on some borderline creationists theories

Creationism holds more merit than evolution. That’s what I’m saying.

it still doesn't negate the fact that the bible is not factual. If you go to an Amazonian island they never heard of the bible nor any of its contents, so how can we force that point of view on them?
The Bible we have know was voted upon. Books were left out and the ones that made it were edited. Tribes conquered tribes, so the conquered tribes had to take on the religion of the winning tribe and call their king a God. With historical references we know now most of the Bible has been edited, mistranslated for hundreds of years.

I’m not arguing this. I’m not even Christian lol. But to say Jesus never existed is just retarded lmao

You're spitting some old conspiracy theory freemason stuff about lucifer which is not even the devil lol. Are you the only one who didn't know that?

Do you know it was a mistranslation by Jerome. Lucifer is the planet venus the light bringer. If you look on the sky before sunrise you can see it before the sun. The passage in Isiah was about a fallen king. If you read the whole chapter it puts it in to context. The serpent is also not the "devil" hasatan is simply what you called an opponent or adversary. In Hebrew there was not anthromorphic Satan

In the Bible, Lucifer used to be the greatest of the archangels, hence his honorary name. When he ‘fell’, his name didn’t change, it remained as Lucifer.

Congratulations, your entire theory got dismantled in 2 sentences. Nice.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Creationism holds more merit than evolution. That’s what I’m saying.


I’m not arguing this. I’m not even Christian lol. But to say Jesus never existed is just retarded lmao

In the Bible, Lucifer used to be the greatest of the archangels, hence his honorary name. When he ‘fell’, his name didn’t change, it remained as Lucifer.

Congratulations, your entire theory got dismantled in 2 sentences. Nice.

Lucifer never was the devil, even a poster in here admitted it. Lucifer is the name of the planet venus. The passage of the fall you are referring to is not about an angel it's about the King of Babylon. If you've read the chapter you would know. It's historically documented and cross referenced. Even Christians know this. It's been long debunked, Jerome mistranslated it from the latin vulgate. I already posted multiple sources on it and a Christian poster on here verified it a few pages back

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Lucifer never was the devil, even a poster in here admitted it. Lucifer is the name of the planet venus. The passage of the fall you are referring to is not about an angel it's about the King of Babylon. If you've read the chapter you would know. It's historically documented and cross referenced. Even Christians know this. It's been long debunked, Jerome mistranslated it from the latin vulgate. I already posted multiple sources on it and a Christian poster on here verified it a few pages back

Cool but Jesus didn’t just not exist lol

 

[Spaz]

Jesus never existed

For a guy who also claims he gets "super powers" just by not fapping, this sounds odd.

 

[Spaz]

Lucifer is the name of the planet venus.

To be able to view Venus, you actually mean those ancients dudes, thousands of years ago had powerful telescopes?

Man, your delusions are getting grander by the day...

I'm now actually wondering if some of you boys actually had any decent education.