guru1000
Master Don Juan
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Self-fulfilling prophecy.what are the odds that they would like me enough to want to go out with me? 1 in 100,000?
I rather pull the plug than self-deprecate.
Self-fulfilling prophecy.what are the odds that they would like me enough to want to go out with me? 1 in 100,000?
I'm speaking about my experience. Learn that we can all only view the world and speak from our subjective experience. You seemit's not about too easy
You have too much female energy.It's about filtering out the nonsense.
..and a weird anti white hangup.even though he is a white guy himself
why are you so desperate for "miss perfect"?Women of her caliber online have their standards set at the moon
I know you guys are trying to preach this positive thinking stuff and that's great and allSelf-fulfilling prophecy.
I rather pull the plug than self-deprecate.
what's the point of obsessively killing myself for 10 years in self improvement to date a chick who is not in shape or who is stupid or something?I
why are you so desperate for "miss perfect"?
1) 95% of hot women are not taken;I know you guys are trying to preach this positive thinking stuff and that's great and all
but dude come on, a cute 25 year old girl in awesome shape who works out at a gym 5 times a week? I can't even imagine what her standards are, not to mention the odds of her even being single is like 5%. So I'm approaching a girl who more than likely is in a serious relationship and if she is single, has an unholy amount of men pursuing her constantly everyday - half of whom are probably 6'4 white male model/fitness model types.
Is English not your first language? you seem to misunderstand a lot...what's the point of obsessively killing myself for 10 years in self improvement to date a chick who is not in shape or who is stupid or something?
I know what your problem is. When they say you are "fantastic" they say you are fantastic in a "beta I can depend on" fantastic.the reason everybody says I'm a fantastic person is because they know I am a man of impeccable morals and character. I would do absolutely anything for my loved ones
Is English not your first language? you seem to misunderstand a lot...
Why are you desperate to meet to tie yourself down?
What is your sexual strategy? a long term relationship? Why?
pure face, I'm around a 7.5 but everything else is closer to a 10/10 (money body lifestyle fashion sense etc... etc... etc...). I'm an obsessive perfectionist.1) 95% of hot women are not taken;
2) Your current total SMV is a 7, correct? This means you have 7-9s who will date you.
next, you're going to tell me that unicorns are real) Most orbiters and men pursuing her are of low SMV. She has very few comparable and compatible contenders, and some hot women have zero comparable and compatible contenders (at the moment). You'd be surprised in the scarcity (of suitable contenders) some of these women have.
I know what your problem is. When they say you are "fantastic" they say you are fantastic in a "beta I can depend on" fantastic.
A common angle of the "nice guy" is how they turn their weakness (non-assertive, weak social skills) into superior moral quality.
Your problem is general unhappiness......you think your perfect woman can cure this.I want to get into a long term relationship but only if we are a great match through and through in every way. I am not getting into a bad relationship
I am a relationship guy. I don't care for being single...the few women I've had casual flings with did nothing for me
Do you think if he were better looking, he would have closed her? If yes, what would better looking be to you, 6'7 250 lbs, 6% bf?the other day, one of the girls I wanted to approach at my gym was being hit on by a 6"4 230 lbs 8% BF male model looking dude. How in God's green earth do you compete with that? What's funny is she turned him down because he wasn't even good enough lolololol
One of the most common issues men have with women is OVERESTIMATING their value to women.did you not read the post? I am not submissive or non assertive at all.
I think you guys have the wrong idea. I don't have any gaping holes in my existence except for 1 - I love my life. I enjoy my job, love my friends and family, I'm extremely gratefulYour problem is general unhappiness......you think your perfect woman can cure this.
WRONG DIAGNOSIS
What can your perfect woman bring to the table?
Answer this and within you will find what the gaping holes in your existence represent. Work on those then see what's up
I'm willing to approach women at bars but 95% of the time, I get blown out immediately before I have any sort of chance to get traction going. I'm not a weirdo - I don't say anything unusual.. I keep it fun and friendly and light.One of the most common issues men have with women is OVERESTIMATING their value to women.
You may not think you are submissive, you likely think you are being "moral" or "high quality" etc. but women perceive it as weakness.
True assertiveness is VERY RARE.
But, you will of course disagree, and continue (as many on this forum do) to argue that it's not YOUR problem, it's those goddamn low quality women that have somehow taken over the Earth.
But just in case you are really interested in IMPROVING your results with women, (rather than getting validation that it's NOT your fault) then I would recommend that you ASSUME your problem is a lack of game/social skills/personality and work on improving yourself.
Consider this thread on the relationship between game and sales, for example. How good of a salesperson are you? Could you walk up to somebody cold and sell them something?
Girls aren't much different.
You need to SELL YOURSELF to girls.
Girls have the luxury of just showing and letting their looks do it for them.
Men do not.
You can't just show up and expect them to "choose you."
I think you are pressing too much.
Women like the vibe of a fun, charismatic and care free successful guy.
I feel your pain.absolutely, I agree 100%. Everybody likes that vibe
Recently I've been going to bars with an extremely confident and carefree vibe and I'm still getting blown out within 30 seconds with no chance to establish anything if I approach anybody decent in terms of the overall package. If I approach someone trashy or 10 years older than me, they stick to me like glue
Somebody decent package- meaning at least a 6 in looks, a little younger than me, in decent shape, etc... I'm not going for a supermodel
Why would they be subservient? Are you making racial stereotypes about yellow ladies?I'm not looking for someone subservient to me. I want somebody who will be my equal in most areas - in terms of character, intelligence, etc....
but yes, people are beyond absolutely astonished when they get to know me and find out that I never date.