Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
The only thing that those statistics "prove" is that children need a male role model/father figure in their lives. They in no way proves that single mothers -- or their children -- are "tainted goods".
It predicts the future for mothers who stay single, and obviously enough are staying single for these stats to come about. Moreover, if these women are staying single then they are either 1.) not dating or 2.) going through a string of men. I couldn't find stats on the marriage rate of single mothers, but I think it's safe to conclude that plenty are not keeping a the same man in their life. I'd be interested to see what the divorce rate is on men who married a woman who already has a child.
And yes, it does show they are tainted.
For one thing if you get involved with a woman who's child is a teenager then those stats are probably already coming about in the real life of the mom, which will make things very difficult for anyone getting involved with her. If the child is a 'child' then they are probably well on the way to being a statistic. A woman with a baby would probably be the best bet for having a 'normal' life (by normal life I mean one that does not involve jail time).
I find that people disappoint me in very predictable ways, so I shall gaze into my crystal balls and say this: If a woman has a child outside of an environment that is economically stable and lacks the support of a second primary caretaker then she is too immature for marriage or any serious commitment. I've lived enough and seen enough that most people are transparent to me, with their predictable lives and habits.
Sure being a single mom is challenging, but to assume that most of them can't handle that challenge is false.
Did you read the stats I got? Obviously most of them are not able to meet the challenge.
And as my lady points out, some men have a habit of getting a woman pregnant and denying their responsibility.
As is predictable, your woman immediately attacks men. The men who deny responsibility are irrelevant to the consideration of the effectiveness of a single-mother set up.
It takes two to make a baby, and it's often the woman left with the responsibility of raising the child on her own while the man moves on to greener pastures.
A man getting off does not a child create. A pregnant woman CHOOSING life does. If you're not ready to have an abortion then don't have sex.
Originally posted by The Great Obnarticus
I also don't like the idea of moving in on a woman who's been knocked up by someone else. The dominant male in a pride of lions will kill the cubs of his last rival to make way for his own progeny. Of course, people never go this far(I hope), but it's a good analogy.
Indeed, it is very beta male to take on the responsibility of someone else's genetic legacy. You'll always be the guy she chose second, the back up, the runner up.
But it makes sense what these alpha's are doing, leaving babies around and letting the betas clean up their mess -- that way the alphas get rewarded with the most sex and largest genetic diversity. Beta's can go ahead and think what they want about their single mommies, but second place is always first loser.
