Women graduating in college more than men

[3agle 3yes]

It's a bit like tennis. Anyone watch tennis?

The men play best of five sets and get paid a certain amount.

The women play best of three sets and get paid the same as the men even though they work LESS.

However, I realise women are DIFFERENT to men and their bodies aren't made to be put under such stress (they get injured more often and a best of five set women's match would be dreadful to watch...the woman who could stand up wins?).

If only feminists would ADMIT this though...

 

[jurry]

It's a bit like tennis. Anyone watch tennis?

The men play best of five sets and get paid a certain amount.

The women play best of three sets and get paid the same as the men even though they work LESS.

However, I realise women are DIFFERENT to men and their bodies aren't made to be put under such stress (they get injured more often and a best of five set women's match would be dreadful to watch...the woman who could stand up wins?).

If only feminists would ADMIT this though...

Great, you picked the ONE sport where women get paid the same as men to make this point.

Women make less than men across the board (pretty significantly in many areas), you can look at any objective data source to confirm this.

Women have been generally suppressed for all of modern civilization and across most areas of the world. Again, this isn't some feminist agenda, its basic objective fact that anyone can find (other than anyone on this thread apparently) and im not even going to waste time arguing for it if you still think the earth is flat.

Thats the truth, you can ignore it as much as you like. Does it mean we should swing way in the other direction and completely trample mens rights? Of course not. Are we even close to that point yet? No, men still make more than women, all areas of political and economic control are UNQUESTIONABLY male dominated, if you even argue with that you are an incalculable moron.

Yet you guys are sitting here going on for days crying like old ladies over a study about college graduation rates? Jesus makes me ashamed to even post on this forum.

 

[Syrio]

Great, you picked the ONE sport where women get paid the same as men to make this point.

Women make less than men across the board (pretty significantly in many areas), you can look at any objective data source to confirm this.

Women have been generally suppressed for all of modern civilization and across most areas of the world. Again, this isn't some feminist agenda, its basic objective fact that anyone can find (other than anyone on this thread apparently) and im not even going to waste time arguing for it if you still think the earth is flat.

Thats the truth, you can ignore it as much as you like. Does it mean we should swing way in the other direction and completely trample mens rights? Of course not. Are we even close to that point yet? No, men still make more than women, all areas of political and economic control are UNQUESTIONABLY male dominated, if you even argue with that you are an incalculable moron.

Yet you guys are sitting here going on for days crying like old ladies over a study about college graduation rates? Jesus makes me ashamed to even post on this forum.

What? Something sensible and reasonable? There is no place for logic or sensibility here, you've come to the wrong place lol

 

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Women have been generally suppressed for all of modern civilization and across most areas of the world.

Heh. Millions of men die in coal mines, off scaffolding, ditches and wars throughout history with a 93% work fatality rate to this day.

She nurtures his children and cooks him a meal. We was sooo oppressed...derrrp


COZ PATRIARCHY!!!
:rockon:

 

[Syrio]

Heh. Millions of men die in coal mines, off scaffolding, ditches and wars throughout history with a 93% work fatality rate to this day.

She nurtures his children and cooks him a meal. We was sooo oppressed...derrrp


COZ PATRIARCHY!!!
:rockon:

False statistic

irrelevant statistic

But no, we men are still oppressed


CUZ MATRIARCHY!!! :rockon:

 

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irrelevant statistic

She says angrily via the internet as she types from her computer, sitting in her chair, safely under a roof....................With cheetos stained fingers :crazy:

 

[dasein]

Women make less than men across the board (pretty significantly in many areas), you can look at any objective data source to confirm this.

Lie #1, already completely debunked right here in the thread and in so many other places. Hell FEMINISTS themselves have toned down on this because they know it isn't true and is starting to piss off the people who know better.

Women have been generally suppressed for all of modern civilization and across most areas of the world. Again, this isn't some feminist agenda, its basic objective fact that anyone can find (other than anyone on this thread apparently) and im not even going to waste time arguing for it if you still think the earth is flat.

Lie #2. Patriarchy theory - the theory that says that no matter how many men got conscripted by the king and hacked apart on the battlefield, the women who got raped afterwards are all that counts. For every witch burned at the stake, there was a dude on the rack downstairs. Of course in the historical vacuum of feminism, we only talk about the witch. Same old formula with every socialist victimology lie narrative based on gender, race, wealth, all utter BS when dragged into the light of real history.

The -fact- is that most of human history has been the strong, of both genders, oppressing the weak, of both genders, and ironically some of that oppression brought us to the favorable place we are today compared to the past.

No, men still make more than women, all areas of political and economic control are UNQUESTIONABLY male dominated, if you even argue with that you are an incalculable moron.

Careful, sophomore, gonna knock the bong over.

Yet you guys are sitting here going on for days crying like old ladies over a study about college graduation rates? Jesus makes me ashamed to even post on this forum.

It's funny how you out yourself in near every post here. The above is just a variation of the old "small penis, you just can't get a woman, you don't deserve a woman, you'll be alone your whole life" shaming that only a certain type of women use against men.

 

[zinc4]

Women only belong in a kitchen cooking food and taking care of children....that is a biological fact....of course they should never make as much money as men...they shouldn't have careers in the first place...it's our fault for letting this happen...

 

[jurry]

You guys can go on all day long about your theories and ideas about how things have been and are today, but it doesnt add up to any facts. As ive said above, this isnt abstract, we're not talking about string theory or philosophy here guys, these things are quantifiable and easily read about and understood.

It doesnt affect me personally how you may feel about the truth or that you want to insult me for telling it to you, but im just pointing out what is OBJECTIVELY true in the world of fact and recorded history. The information is out there, you just have to go read it instead of whining like little girls on a forum. Like i said, men make more money than women, not debatable. Men control the vast majority of political and economic power. Again, not even open for discussion im just pointing out a fact, sorry if your brain doesnt work.

Your version of "factual analysis" is saying men died on the battlefield (fighting a war they CHOSE TO HAVE) and women got raped as a result, so thats basically equal!!?! Hahahahhahahaha.. Cant make sh!t like that up. Cmon gentlemen, read a book.

 

[jurry]

Jurry, by chance, are you a socialist? Do you believe in equal distribution of wealth? Why do you think that men making more based on hours and occupation chosen should result in more benefits directly to women?

If you can refer me to where I ever said that should be the case, go for it, otherwise you can continue arguing with yourself

 

[Syrio]

jurry you can never win this using logic lol... that's not how the internet works

 

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read a book.

The got-to rebuttal for any chick/liberal who's got no more "wow, just wow" left in her.

(fighting a war they CHOSE TO HAVE)

Yep, every man who went off to fight and die for his wife/child/country chose to do so.

http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr267/pga4ever/OK.gif

The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one. At least Syrio just throws out the "stooopid poopy head". This man hating weirdo is in an alternate reality.

 

[jurry]

Yep, every man who went off to fight and die for his wife/child/country chose to do so.

Name a war that was started by women, fvcknuts. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Oh right, they havent started any wars.. hmm, why is that?! Because they haven't had any meaningful position of power throughout modern history. I honestly can't even believe I'm writing this, you people are just trolling me right?

Now, lets look at the countries in the world with the highest gender equality and lowest wage gaps.

http://forumblog.org/2013/10/top-10-most-gender-equal-countries-in-the-world/

Weird isn't it? These are some of the richest, highest standard of living, highest quality of life countries IN THE WORLD.

It's unbelievably how unwilling you people are to even entertain the idea that this isn't some hyper-absolute one or the other decision. "Hey he said women are equal, what a man hating feminist queer!" LOL!

No, in fact I'm just in the middle, with no leanings one way or the other.. you people just adamantly hate women. Must be some great relationships yall are having out there.

 

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Name a war that was started by women, fvcknuts. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Oh right, they havent started any wars.. hmm, why is that?! Because they haven't had any meaningful position of power throughout modern history. I honestly can't even believe I'm writing this, you people are just trolling me right?

C'mon sweetheart you're not that silly. Civilization will always come at a price. You didn't always just wake up with a bad attitude a computer and the gift of free speech believe it or not. Men did actually have to pay a price so you gals can "grrrl power" it up and tell everyone how wrong they are.. coz patriarchy.

you people just adamantly hate women

Uh oh, she pulled the "dats misogyny" card. Shut it down mods, discussions over.

 

[jurry]

C'mon sweetheart you're not that silly. Civilization will always come at a price. You didn't always just wake up with a bad attitude a computer and the gift of free speech believe it or not. Men did actually have to pay a price so you gals can "grrrl power" it up.

Please stop, it really hurts my feelings when random people insult me on an internet forum. Let me know when you grow up and can construct a factual argument.

 

[Voice]

More women choose to go to college. Men on the other hand also choose to go onto blue collar jobs that pay well and don't require a college education. Men still perform better on average on the SATs.

Source: http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/highered/ra/sat/composite_CR_M_W_percentile_ranks.pdf

Graduating from college is not the equivalent of success. A higher percentage of males choose to go to vocational school and take on blue collar jobs. Women make up a tiny percentage of blue collar jobs. There are also more woman in the liberal arts majors as opposed to the overwhelming amount of males in the STEM majors.

 

[Merciless Dj]

We are moving out of topic... however

im just pointing out what is OBJECTIVELY true in the world of fact and recorded history

That looks like a woman trying to sound like a men :crackup:

The fact that some men on the top decided the wars, doesn´t mean that all the men as a group decided them. In fact while a little number of men decided those wars, a big majority had to go to the wars which they didn´t decide, while women stayed at home.
I honestly believe you are a woman after reading your argument, as only a solipsistic person "empowered" by society would hold such argument, purely because it supports your gender and beliefs and by cognitive dissonance you accept it.

 

[jurry]

The fact that some men on the top decided the wars, doesn´t mean that all the men as a group decided them.

Right, but men were still the ones who decided the wars, and almost everything else that has gone on from a political/economic standpoint throughout modern history. Women start graduating college at a good rate for the first time and you're acting like its the end of the world. Because.. why exactly?

EDIT: reached post limit so responding to below..

I'm not holding the whole gender culpable no, I'm pointing out that men were always the ones making that decision.

Yes I absolutely "presuppose" war is bad, do you not?

I guess that was simply the role of the women in those societies, to stay home while men go to war (which doesn't imply that they did not suffer and die because of it). I don't really see how that is relevant to your original discussion though. You seem to think that the rise of women in politics/economics/whatever/I'll just say "general power" and gender equality is a bad thing, I do not. Others here are on fanatical tirades declaring it to be the end of the male species as we know it.

Anyways, apologize for the garbage comment, you seem to be much more receptive to a civilized conversation, although calling me a woman I believe was an insult from your perspective

 

[Merciless Dj]

jurry, are you holding a whole gender culpable of what some individuals did? That sounds to me like saying that men are born with some original sin.
And anyway you are presupposing that war is "bad".
What we are discussing here is why the men who don´t decide the wars go to them, but the women don´t.
No point in discussing with someone that calls your arguments "garbage", really...
I´ll guess I´ll have to edit my responses since you are editing yours... i´m not posting twice in a row
I still don´t understand why you hold a whole gender as culpable of the decisions of some individuals, whether they were "good" or "bad". Although we are shown that some men took most decisions through history, that doesn´t account for the fact that most of them had little to no rights just as women. The same way you cannot say that women have it much harder that men just because a very little percentage of them are very wealthy.
In the 90´s 55% of the students graduating in college in the US were women (I believe it´s said in "The War Against boys") but feminist were all crazy about women being discriminated in school. Nowadays it has gone way up.
I don´t act like it´s the end of the world... but the fact that a way more women graduate in college than men only makes me believe that education in balanced towards women, making things harder for men, as I believe that no gender is smarter than the other, just different, able to perform different tasks more easily.
And no, calling you a women is no insult. I believe that women and men are biologically different, think differently, and therefor write differently.

 

[Syrio]

I would just like to point out once again, for those who seem to have forgotten, that this thread is full of MEN complaining that WOMEN have all the power. Not the other way around lol... This is men screaming MATRIARCHY rather than women screaming PATRIARCHY. But really it's the same thing (or arguably more pathetic)