Wii or XBOX 360?

[Sojourn]

MMORPG Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game e.g. World of Warcraft

Another thing I don't believe anyone has mentioned is that the developers say that it's easier to write games on the Xbox and it's easier to port over to the PC. Dual market baby! The ports to PC from PS3 are pretty decent too. The one thing MS has going for it is their FREE game design kit which can be downloaded so you can create and distribute your own games.

Hmm I have to agree and dsiagree with you. Currently it is harder to develop for the PS3. (it's becoming easier, but still Sony has to do a better job with devs) As for the dual market non exixtant if its 360/PC because of piracy on the PC. For PC to become a viable market again they have to stop piracy. If that ever happens then yeah dual market, but thats highly unlikely. I will give you an example.

The biggest PC game for the PC last year was Crysis. Crysis did not sell well at all. Now there is an interesting genre that Sony, M$, and Nintendo have not capitalized on yet. Which is MMORPG (which is what I think you were thinking of) I know both Sony and M$ have plans for some. (Not sure about Nintendo) If either of them can make a console WOW (World of Warcraft) the sales would skyrocket for that system. I wish I could tell you more about the MMORPG games, but they escape my memory at the moment.

Almost forgot about XNA. I will treat XNA like I did with killzone 2 and how I'm treating Alan Wake. I will beleive it when I see it. There are some good games from what I hear, but nothing spectacular.

Yes they msoft has an easier time to make games and port it to other consoles WHICH every time a game gets ported from the 360 to the ps3 the 360 version always wins since its harder to make games for the ps3 and the only guys that are having an easy time doing that is the first party titles which is hurting the fan base of the ps3.

This is what I used to think until someone corrected other people over at the gaf (neogaf). Its not harder to port from 360 to PS3 its just different. What they are trying to do is run the smae exact code from 360 to PS3. There is no way you can do that since the cell is so different. If you make a PS3 game from the ground up then port to the 360 its much easier to do. (I'm pretty sure that is correct, but if I'm wrong please feel free to correct me)

 

[Wired for Sound]

1. So the 360 is an obsolete system.....because HD-DVD died? That is stupid and makes no sense what so ever

Microsoft threw it's weight behind a doomed medium. PS3 threw it's weight behind the future of home film entertainment. Call it what you will.

3.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAH....wow really! I dont think consumers think like that at allll

Well, guess what. I'm a consumer, and I KNOW that's how I think. Blu-Ray is actually ahead of schedule, with an overwhelming amount of support from film studios and movie rental companies like NetFlix and Blockbuster. It took DVD much longer to get off the ground.

That's why everything is BARELY going digital, and no not every tv is flat and NO not every channel is HD!

Oh, no? Walk into any Circuit City/Best Buy/Fry's and tell me how many bubble-screened TV's you see for sale. After you finish counting, imagine me saying "I rest my case.". And I never said every channel was HD, I said they WILL be HD...which they will.

GTA.......well basically you get bored of the game after you beat the game since you have nothing to do and I havent heard ANYTHING about the game after the release.

Oh, you've been living under a rock. Allow me to enlighten you: "On 13 May 2008, Grand Theft Auto IV broke the Guinness World Records for "Highest grossing video game in 24 hours" and "Highest Revenue Generated by an Entertainment Product in 24 Hours". It sold 3.6 million copies on day one, which equaled roughly $310 million in revenue. For first day sales it also broke the record of "Fastest-selling video game in 24 hours", previously held by Halo 3 at $170 million. As of May 31, 2008, the title has sold over 11 million copies to retailers and 8.5 million have been sold through to consumers."

6. You do know that you can connect your laptop or computer to your tv right?

Yeah, the resolution is AMAZING. It's almost as good as when I connect my Super NES to a 1993 big screen TV. Give the technology another ten years and it won't be out of the question to say...equal VHS quality.

......that's why I guess we have a problem with pirating ...cause everyone wants physical media.

Only those who give a rat's ass about quality. The people you see walking around with VCD's of Indiana Jones and Iron Man don't particularly care for things like tangibility as long as the coughing is minimal and the guy with the camcorder managed to find a good seat without slouching too far down.

PS....Before I forget there are sooooo many more people with an internet connection then a high def tv,AND a high def device.

Sure, but how many of those people want to do your s.hitty little techie jerry-rig setup when they can just pop their BR disc into their PS3/BR player and enjoy? Therein lies the rub. I for one, don't particularly like relying on the Internet to watch my movies...especially if I'm going to go somewhere where I KNOW I won't have Internet access, but still want to finish off my Mission: Impossible marathon in all of it's hi-def glory.

 

[j0n024]

See THIS is what I'm talking about, you attack the things you can make an argument about you say nothing positive unlike myself which I remained NEUTRAL.

1.Msoft DID NOT and I mean N E V E R back HD-DVD they merely made a device to play the system....IF they did they would have made vista WITH a HD-DVD drive mandatory.

2.BR while I give you the fact that the reason HD-DVD lost was because of BR's studio support , but since HD died there has been nothing new or for that matter anything worthwhile that has come out on BR. Yes it's your own opinion what you watch but every BR consumer is waiting because there is no good movies coming out yet and everyone is waiting for Transformers in BR. The fact that DVD took so long was because it was a NEW platform...it took awhile for people to get the players to play DVD'S but this war is TOTALLY different from the BR VS DVD war and I dont think BR will become that wide spread unlike DVD.

3.Aparrently you are a consumer because saying BB and CC just shows it , yes every tv in the place is a flat screen but those are NEW tv's. Now think about all the people out in the world....do you think EVERYONE has a flat screen......NO I was talking about those people not the people BUYING A NEW TV.

4.Ok the GTA thing.....I was talking about the GAMEPLAY .....you brought up the sales, I dont know why but I guess you feel the same way. I think that's the achilles heel of GTA once your done with the story there is no reason to keep playing and since I've heard nothing about GTA in awhile plus the fact that there are lots of comments and reviews saying it gets boring after you beat the main storyline proves my case, Now I never said it WASNT gonna sell alot since it is a name that everyone knows.

5. ....Really...Really you think that? IF you think that you have crappy resolution when you connect your laptop or computer to a tv monitor THRU HMDI-VGA-DVI and you get crappy resolution then you shouldn't be debating about a ps3 or a 360. The resolution is the exact same thing when you put the monitor on 1x1 pixel mapping ....my tv looks crystal clear when I watch my movies ....unless of course I am watching a youtube video hahah, but if you actually think that then you ARE a fanboy of the ps3 arent you....and you have no idea what your talking about since you think a pure digital signal would become corrupted and distorted if you put it on a bigger tv....hahahahahaha.

6-7. THESE are the people that control and dictate where our technology goes and THESE are the people that LG,Philips,Sony,Msoft,Wii market to...the AVERAGE CONSUMER. There are more people that would rather watch the show for free or burn a cd for free or read a book online for FREE, these average consumers probably still have CRT'S and these are the people I am talking about the whole time. There are more people that have "VCD," and burned copies of things then people that have a home theatre setup and care about resolution and sound, now I love to see a clear picture and usually I calibrate my tv every other weekend because I'm that eccentric about my high def system. Like I said there are a hell of a lot more people that have an internet connection that dont care about resoultion or sound and just wanna see the movie or listen to the music and just burn it to a cd which is cheap, as opossed to having to buy a 400 dollar BR player , having to shell out at least 1G for a DECENT tv to use the BR player for just to watch a high def movie.

Now really everything you have said is fanboyish and I dont know why your feathers got ruffled , I think it was because I laughed at your comment saying that "BR is the future," When in fact it is not ....why would Sony be putting movies to be streamed on their PSN instead of making you buy a BR movie?

 

[Wired for Sound]

See THIS is what I'm talking about, you attack the things you can make an argument about you say nothing positive unlike myself which I remained NEUTRAL.

Point taken...but I'm not neutral. I have a clear bias towards Blu-Ray and the PS3 because they are superior platforms.

1. Ok, man. Ok.

2. Dude, I am NOT about to list every BR title out there. Trust me. There are good movies out on BR, and there continue to be new ones released. I'm waiting for Transformers on BR too, but it's only 2 1/2 months away. Not that big of a deal. I'll be enjoying my Pirates of the Caribbean Blu-Ray marathons, and rewatch 300 and Cloverfield a couple times as well, I'm sure.

3. Oh, we had a miscommunication. Yes, some people still have a bubble-screened TV laying around in their basement. Just like some people will still have DVDs lingering around in a dusty old box somewhere while their Blu-Ray's enjoy the living room.

4. Actually, whenever I play a new GTA game I spend most of the time just killing people and running from the cops. The ability to just run around a city and wreak havoc greatly appeals to me, and I don't think I'm alone. I mentioned the sales because you insinuated that if you don't "hear anything", then people don't like the game or something...which clearly isn't the case.

5. I'll give you that. It's possible to get normal resolution with a new video card and 8 cables later. If you think that the "average consumer" considers this the easiest solution to watching movies in hi-def, I think you need to reconsider where you throw that term "fanboy" around.

6-7. If you're trying to tell me that people aren't going to want to buy TV's or DVD/Blu-Ray players anymore because there's pirated films out there...you're fighting an uphill battle. A long, long, long...uphill battle. If you really want to go down that road we can, but it'll get bloody.


Why would you think my feathers got ruffled? I've stayed civil the whole time. I've never called you any names (such as "fanboy"), or tried to belittle your comments (such as calling them "P R I C E L E S S" or "funny"). I just have a good idea what people want, which is why I picked Blu-Ray as the winner of the format war between HD-DVD very soon after it became apparent that there was one.

As far as the PSN streaming, it's the same reason people rent movies. Maybe they only need to see the movie one time. Maybe they can't afford to buy movies. Business is all about money, in case you haven't noticed. By appealing to the widest audience possible, more money is being emptied into their bank accounts.

 

[j0n024]

Yes I agree that people can take side's in whatever they see fit, I had a 360 so I bought the HD-DVD drive but being called a fanboy of HD-DVD everytime by some kid with a ps3 gets tiring after a while and since most sites that are gamer oriented usually is controlled by either console.

2. Yes I agree that there are some very good movies on both platforms while some are very good movies that show how good HD really is there are also others that just went the cheap route and just go upscaled (Fifth element, Twister) , now I'm not saying that their ISNT any good movies coming out all I'm saying is since HD_DVD is dead I havent seen a single commercial,advertisment or at least someone talking about BR ....and that si Sonys fault.

3.Yes they do hell everyone will always have some old technology lying around, I still have most of my old consoles in my closet.

4. Dude come on after awhile it becomes stale just running around and doing stupid stuff, yes it's fun but after awhile it becomes boring...sorta like when you get bored of games and stop playing them.

5.NO I never said it was gonna be the easiest but it is still an option and people with Windows Media Center take advantage of this.

6. I'm not saying everyone is going to buy a pirated copy but seeing that the FBI is supposedly cracking down on pirated copies and movie theaters having advertisements of not pirating movies shows that the trend is continuing "UP the hill."

People can pick whatever they want either the ps3 or a HD-DVD player or hell a satellite,cable HD package it doesnt matter to me because I just like to watch movies and right now I think my Oppo upconversion player does a damn good job at making the movies on my DVD's look very good and some even rival that of the High def movies, the only thing I freak out about is when people buy animated movies on BR.....seems like a waste of money since it's animated.

Yes it's all about money like you say and when someone can sit down get on the PSN or live and download a movie from his couch or bed for however cheap it is as opposed to driving to block or wherever or paying for netflix then the person is gonna sit down and relax ....it's easy to see that streaming is gonna become easier, faster and better then having to buy hard physical media.

But I'm done you can say what you want, you can support BR and I will support my HD-DVD , regular Dvd's , streaming as much as I want nothing will change. Good luck at whatever you do and what you pick to back .

 

[ChrizZ]

As you guys know, I bought a Wii. Didn´t like it thogh. The games suck and the controlls get boring quickly. Nintendo only targets little kids and families. Nothing there for adults. The graphics are also like N64.

 

[Wired for Sound]

Yeah, that Wii-mote definitely saved the system. There's very little difference from what I have seen between the GameCube and the Wii. I've only played Mario Kart and SSB, but I doubt other games are that different.

4. Dude come on after awhile it becomes stale just running around and doing stupid stuff, yes it's fun but after awhile it becomes boring...sorta like when you get bored of games and stop playing them.

Eh, it's a matter of taste. If I had a bad day, there's just nothing like grabbing a baseball bat...finding the first hot digital chick that walks past you, and just going to town on her. Sometimes I'll be standing there for 10 minutes just pounding her into a pulp as bystanders watch, as some start to scream in horror. Then when the cops come, I'll waste them with the shottie as quickly as possible, switch back to the bat, and continue the pummeling on the chick's lifeless body! I don't know. It's very liberating to detonate/crush/stab/shoot/plow/beat/electrocute the virtual counterparts of your real-life everyday aggravations like slow drivers, gangbangers, or attractive women with attitudes. GTA offers a very rare form of catharsis that most games just can't deliver.

 

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Anyhow. Im getting a PS3 eventually. To me it is the better system and I have so many PS2 games to play on it or to buy that I can be doubly entertained. Graphics aren't really an issue for me as much as gameplay but I am gonna cop an HDTV eventually as well

 

[Sojourn]

Yeah, that Wii-mote definitely saved the system. There's very little difference from what I have seen between the GameCube and the Wii. I've only played Mario Kart and SSB, but I doubt other games are that different.

The Thing Nintendo did was brilliant. They added motion sensing (you can call it a gimmick, but I like the idea), but even better than that they simplified the controller. It was smart on Nintendos part. They simplified gaming so that anyone can pick up and play a Wii game. Graphics wise its a little better than an xbox (first one not 360). Also once again great marketing with family freindly games.

Anyhow. Im getting a PS3 eventually. To me it is the better system and I have so many PS2 games to play on it or to buy that I can be doubly entertained. Graphics aren't really an issue for me as much as gameplay but I am gonna cop an HDTV eventually as well

If you live in the U.S. this month would have been good to get a PS3 due to MGS4, and Walmart. Walmart in had a 100$ of a PS3 or something like that. Don't know if they are still doing it though. If you don't want to play MGS4 then wai till the holiday to get a PS3. Some really good games are coming out for the holidays, and aq price cut will most likely be in the holiday season.