Why So Many Young Men Are Single and Sexless

[Solomon]

Most women are over weight, tatted and miserable.

Men may not know it but in the back of their mind subconsciously theirs no desire to chase. Its how the world has worked since the beginning of time and now with AI on the horizon its only going to get worse.

Regardless of the notion that its some small portion of men F'n all the women thats just not true and rationally dosent even make sense.

If anything what makes more sense in reality is theirs a small percentage of good looking women that are left that all the men are after.

I was just talking yesterday on my podcasts how many women in their 20's are overweight
Yes you have young women who are hitting the gym and got the glutes
But it's truly appaling how many women are sloppy and fat at 25 looking like they 45 smh

 

[Gamisch]

If you looked like THIS would you need to be on SS forums asking for advice on how to pick up women?

Now imagine that dude felt like " nah i dont need teeth whitening. And I dont need to be ripped as F. I got a decent face that' will do".

Maybe he was a model and he did all of this afterwards, or PERHAPS the other way around: he looks maxxxed himself and thus became a model.

Either way, like 70/60 % of this is style and gym work. This leads to a confident overall demeanor.

And yes , if this dude makes some sorry azz bathroom selfies and backyard pics, swipes right on every woman and doesn't pay up he will also struggle with OLD.

But yeah..i think every man should ask himself to some degree; how do I model maxxx MYSELF? A great body is a good start..

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Now imagine that dude felt like " nah i dont need teeth whitening. And I dont need to be ripped as F. I got a decent face that' will do".

Maybe he was a model and he did all of this afterwards, or PERHAPS the other way around: he looks maxxxed himself and this became a model.

Either way, like 70/60 % of this is style and gym work. This leads to a confident overall demeanor.

And yes , if this dude makes some sorry azz bathroom selfies and backyard pics, swipes right on every woman and doesn't pay up he will also struggle with OLD.

But yeah..i think every man should ask himself to some degree; how do I model maxxx MYSELF? A great body is a good start..

It only needed this guy to have a bad hairline and take random selfies in his bathroom instead of pro pics to join the dry spellers.

 

[Gamisch]

It only needed this guy to have a bad hairline and take random selfies in his bathroom instead of pro pics to join the dry spellers.

I tried a Google lens sarch, but ironically enough all that comes up is @pipeman84 his profile picture.

This is from the 2000's.lets say dude was 25 here. Now he around 50. I wonder what he looks like now.

 

[eli77]

I’ve had less luck in my older years than I did when I was younger. I’d kill to have the success I had back in the day lol

You and i both!

 

[sangheilios]

Can't believe that this thread is 4 pages. The reason for this is because of dating apps, social media is a variable that plays into this as well.

There have been many stats that have shown this increasing prevalence of male sexlessness started around 2008. Prior to this time period it was fairly consistent and we didn't see too many changes. The biggest variable in 2008 is the increased usage of social media, that's around the time that facebook took off. Prior to facebook there was myspace, though this social media platform wasn't at all nearly as ingrained into society.

However, we see that this trend of male sexlessness really took off in 2014/2015, which is when the dating app tinder emerge onto the scene. I believe that the dating apps are the biggest cause of the changes we see in the dating market compared to previous decades. A woman that is even unattractive and quite overweight can get dozens of matches on tinder within a week of being on there. Ask any woman you know who has a dating app profile and this will be her experience. On the flip side, it's honestly the norm for the vast majority of men to struggle to get matches, if they even get them at all. Even if you get a match, it's highly unlikely you'd even get that woman out on a real date simply because she is entertaining a dozen other guys at that given time that in reality are comparable to you.

There are some other variables that go into this as well. I think pornography often fills in the sexual needs of these men that are not getting the results they want in the dating market. I believe given enough time they develop a pattern where they just give up all together and just rely on porn for sexual gratification. It's a cycle of having poor experiences and no results for your efforts over and over and over. Then these men get frustrated and perhaps put less effort into trying to meet women, which is a normal response. Then they start using porn here and there and because their sexual needs are being met they begin to place even less importance on meeting women. Then the months and years go by and this is a behavioral pattern that they've developed that can become quite difficult to break out of.

I personally am not a big porn user but have had little to no success in the dating market, which eventually lead to me checking out all together. Dating and "the game" should be a fun and enjoyable experience, which I believe is something that a lot of men forget at times. If you aren't having fun or enjoying yourself, or worse it's actually a very negative experience, why would you continue to play in the dating market? A lot of the thoughts and emotions I'd have with some of my experiences in the dating market would be "Man, I just wasted a bunch of my time and energy on some woman who just ghosts me" or something like "I just went on a couple dates with this woman and it resulted in nothing" or "Man, that girl agreed to a date and when I arrived she flaked last minute". This is the reality for the vast majority of men today and it's totally understandable why many end up giving up. Unless you are a masochist, why would one want to continue?

Some stuff for those reading this to consider.

 

[corrector]

Can't believe that this thread is 4 pages. The reason for this is because of dating apps, social media is a variable that plays into this as well.

There have been many stats that have shown this increasing prevalence of male sexlessness started around 2008. Prior to this time period it was fairly consistent and we didn't see too many changes. The biggest variable in 2008 is the increased usage of social media, that's around the time that facebook took off. Prior to facebook there was myspace, though this social media platform wasn't at all nearly as ingrained into society.

However, we see that this trend of male sexlessness really took off in 2014/2015, which is when the dating app tinder emerge onto the scene. I believe that the dating apps are the biggest cause of the changes we see in the dating market compared to previous decades. A woman that is even unattractive and quite overweight can get dozens of matches on tinder within a week of being on there. Ask any woman you know who has a dating app profile and this will be her experience. On the flip side, it's honestly the norm for the vast majority of men to struggle to get matches, if they even get them at all. Even if you get a match, it's highly unlikely you'd even get that woman out on a real date simply because she is entertaining a dozen other guys at that given time that in reality are comparable to you.

There are some other variables that go into this as well. I think pornography often fills in the sexual needs of these men that are not getting the results they want in the dating market. I believe given enough time they develop a pattern where they just give up all together and just rely on porn for sexual gratification. It's a cycle of having poor experiences and no results for your efforts over and over and over. Then these men get frustrated and perhaps put less effort into trying to meet women, which is a normal response. Then they start using porn here and there and because their sexual needs are being met they begin to place even less importance on meeting women. Then the months and years go by and this is a behavioral pattern that they've developed that can become quite difficult to break out of.

I personally am not a big porn user but have had little to no success in the dating market, which eventually lead to me checking out all together. Dating and "the game" should be a fun and enjoyable experience, which I believe is something that a lot of men forget at times. If you aren't having fun or enjoying yourself, or worse it's actually a very negative experience, why would you continue to play in the dating market? A lot of the thoughts and emotions I'd have with some of my experiences in the dating market would be "Man, I just wasted a bunch of my time and energy on some woman who just ghosts me" or something like "I just went on a couple dates with this woman and it resulted in nothing" or "Man, that girl agreed to a date and when I arrived she flaked last minute". This is the reality for the vast majority of men today and it's totally understandable why many end up giving up. Unless you are a masochist, why would one want to continue?

Some stuff for those reading this to consider.

Yeah, or getting divorced after you are married or breaking up after you get in a relationship. Too much investment to be left with nothing. Not sure if front end or back end rejection or flakiness is worst.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Guys want pvssy to fall from the sky without putting any effort into it to fit in with their sitting around the house smoking weed and playing video games lifestyle.

 

[sangheilios]

Guys want pvssy to fall from the sky without putting any effort into it to fit in with their sitting around the house smoking weed and playing video games lifestyle.

That's not necessarily true. There was a stat that reached the mainstream media where 2/3 young men, 18-29, were single vs. 1/3 young women. Are you going to tell me that when you look at those numbers you don't see an issue right then and there? Are you going to tell me that 2/3 of these young men fall into the category of being addicted to weed and video games? You are incredibly delusional if you think this is the case.

There was a stat from a while back from some study, I think it was on OkCupid, where women rated 80% of men as "below average" lol.

The dating market has NEVER been this difficult for the majority of young men in history.

I could cite countless anecdotal stories and observations I've made over the last few years that support the idea that these numbers are representing.

 

[SW15]

Guys want pvssy to fall from the sky without putting any effort into it to fit in with their sitting around the house smoking weed and playing video games lifestyle.

That's not true in my experience. A good portion of men are putting in more effort now with endless swiping, DMing, and approaching. Because of swipe apps, a lot of men are having more low quality interactions that are time consuming. Time gets wasted on prospects who ghost before meeting, who are "one date, no sex, no second date", etc. This stuff didn't happen in the pre-internet era.

I think it was on OkCupid, where women rated 80% of men as "below average" lol.

The dating market has NEVER been this difficult for the majority of young men in history.

I could cite countless anecdotal stories and observations I've made over the last few years that support the idea that these numbers are representing.

Yes, it was OkCupid data from the early to mid 2010s. I agree that the dating market has never been this difficult for the majority of younger men today.

The reason for this is because of dating apps, social media is a variable that plays into this as well.

There have been many stats that have shown this increasing prevalence of male sexlessness started around 2008. Prior to this time period it was fairly consistent and we didn't see too many changes. The biggest variable in 2008 is the increased usage of social media, that's around the time that facebook took off. Prior to facebook there was myspace, though this social media platform wasn't at all nearly as ingrained into society.

Yes, good point.

However, we see that this trend of male sexlessness really took off in 2014/2015, which is when the dating app tinder emerge onto the scene. I believe that the dating apps are the biggest cause of the changes we see in the dating market compared to previous decades. A woman that is even unattractive and quite overweight can get dozens of matches on tinder within a week of being on there. Ask any woman you know who has a dating app profile and this will be her experience. On the flip side, it's honestly the norm for the vast majority of men to struggle to get matches, if they even get them at all. Even if you get a match, it's highly unlikely you'd even get that woman out on a real date simply because she is entertaining a dozen other guys at that given time that in reality are comparable to you.

The swipe apps took all of the negative aspects of dating websites of the 2000s and exploded them. All of the things people complain about now were happening on dating websites circa 2008-2012. Once the apps took hold, female abundance exploded to levels not even seen in the website era. In 2008-2012, it was common for women to have their inboxes have hundreds of messages in them prior to the swipe apps.

There are some other variables that go into this as well. I think pornography often fills in the sexual needs of these men that are not getting the results they want in the dating market. I believe given enough time they develop a pattern where they just give up all together and just rely on porn for sexual gratification. It's a cycle of having poor experiences and no results for your efforts over and over and over. Then these men get frustrated and perhaps put less effort into trying to meet women, which is a normal response. Then they start using porn here and there and because their sexual needs are being met they begin to place even less importance on meeting women. Then the months and years go by and this is a behavioral pattern that they've developed that can become quite difficult to break out of.

Yes, this happens. I believe many men ending up turning to porn due to feeling the effects of rejection in a difficult mating marketplace.

I personally am not a big porn user but have had little to no success in the dating market, which eventually lead to me checking out all together. Dating and "the game" should be a fun and enjoyable experience, which I believe is something that a lot of men forget at times. If you aren't having fun or enjoying yourself, or worse it's actually a very negative experience, why would you continue to play in the dating market?

A lot of the thoughts and emotions I'd have with some of my experiences in the dating market would be "Man, I just wasted a bunch of my time and energy on some woman who just ghosts me" or something like "I just went on a couple dates with this woman and it resulted in nothing" or "Man, that girl agreed to a date and when I arrived she flaked last minute". This is the reality for the vast majority of men today and it's totally understandable why many end up giving up. Unless you are a masochist, why would one want to continue?

Many men have similar feelings and experiences to what is described here. The wild thing about this is that it has happened to a 6'4" fit man who has the look of a top tier man, commonly called a 'Chad'.

 

[corrector]

I could cite countless anecdotal stories and observations I've made over the last few years that support the idea that these numbers are representing.

Why don't you spend your time working on self-improvement instead?

 

[SW15]

Why don't you spend your time working on self-improvement instead?

He's 6'4" with big muscles. What sort of self-improvement can be done?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Unless you’re living in Qatar or the UAE, gender ratios are pretty much 50/50 nowadays - the one exception is probably Crimea nowadays.

Given the ratios are even and we assume women are in fact having sex, and 1/3rd of males are incels (per stats) it means they are sharing males. That or they’re just not having sex.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

That's not necessarily true. There was a stat that reached the mainstream media where 2/3 young men, 18-29, were single vs. 1/3 young women. Are you going to tell me that when you look at those numbers you don't see an issue right then and there? Are you going to tell me that 2/3 of these young men fall into the category of being addicted to weed and video games? You are incredibly delusional if you think this is the case.

There was a stat from a while back from some study, I think it was on OkCupid, where women rated 80% of men as "below average" lol.

The dating market has NEVER been this difficult for the majority of young men in history.

I could cite countless anecdotal stories and observations I've made over the last few years that support the idea that these numbers are representing.

And here is the other reason..guys crying about how the odds are stacked against them and every other excuse they can find.

Poor mindsets leads to poor results. In every area of life not just with women.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

He's 6'4" with big muscles. What sort of self-improvement can be done?

That's not true in my experience. A good portion of men are putting in more effort now with endless swiping, DMing, and approaching. Because of swipe apps, a lot of men are having more low quality interactions that are time consuming. Time gets wasted on prospects who ghost before meeting, who are "one date, no sex, no second date", etc. This stuff didn't happen in the pre-internet era.



Yes, it was OkCupid data from the early to mid 2010s. I agree that the dating market has never been this difficult for the majority of younger men today.



Yes, good point.



The swipe apps took all of the negative aspects of dating websites of the 2000s and exploded them. All of the things people complain about now were happening on dating websites circa 2008-2012. Once the apps took hold, female abundance exploded to levels not even seen in the website era. In 2008-2012, it was common for women to have their inboxes have hundreds of messages in them prior to the swipe apps.



Yes, this happens. I believe many men ending up turning to porn due to feeling the effects of rejection in a difficult mating marketplace.



Many men have similar feelings and experiences to what is described here. The wild thing about this is that it has happened to a 6'4" fit man who has the look of a top tier man, commonly called a 'Chad'.

All I know is I have none of these issues because I don't sit around crying about how tough things are, how hard it is, blah blah blah, wah wah wah...

Get out there and get it done and make it work. Period.

Or don't. But just stop crying about it.

 

[corrector]

Given the ratios are even and we assume women are in fact having sex, and 1/3rd of males are incels (per stats) it means they are sharing males. That or they’re just not having sex.

2/3rds, not 1/3.

 

[corrector]

He's 6'4" with big muscles. What sort of self-improvement can be done?

He can try dating non-white girls just to stay in the zone. If he's not dating anyone what does he have to lose? It's either that or he has to escortcel with other white women to stay in the zone.

 

[DonJuanjr]

He's 6'4" with big muscles. What sort of self-improvement can be done?

He doesn't have big muscles. At 6'4" with 17" arms, that's not big... @BackInTheGame78 is that big?

 

[BadBoy89]

Guys want pvssy to fall from the sky without putting any effort into it to fit in with their sitting around the house smoking weed and playing video games lifestyle.

Not true.

Guys want a normal girl who hasn't slept with the football team, will act like a wife, and not take half his money in a divorce.

Dr. Dre, worth $1,000,000,000 US. Wife wanted divorce. She gave him an aneurysm without touching him. Prenup signed.
Kevin Costner, worth $250,000,000 US dollars. Wife wants a divorce. She won't leave his home until she gets MORE money. Prenup signed.

But Sosusave members, you improve yourself, be strong, and handle these women.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Not true.

Guys want a normal girl who hasn't slept with the football team, will act like a wife, and not take half his money in a divorce.

Dr. Dre, worth $1,000,000,000 US. Wife wanted divorce. She gave him an aneurysm without touching him. Prenup signed.
Kevin Costner, worth $250,000,000 US dollars. Wife wants a divorce. She won't leave his home until she gets MORE money. Prenup signed.

But Sosusave members, you improve yourself, be strong, and handle these women.

She doesn't need to leave THEIR home. Just like men don't need to leave THEIR home when their wife wants a divorce.

It's one of the biggest mistakes men commonly make during divorces and one that costs them dearly in court.