It's funnyIt's funny dudes is actually hating on the guy as if he doesn't actually pull chicks. Read his archive, or any other person back on that era's archive, the dude was getting results.
Is he the best PUA? I don't know, but who cares it's like saying "Who has the biggest dik?" it doesn't matter if you got a dik your capable of fuking. Same with the best PUA BS...if your good you have OPTIONS and can live a lifestyle of constantly having beautiful women in your life.
Here is video I found...(Obviously a marketing video)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_1loAxTH_Jw
The thing is it doesn't matter what "METHOD" is being used or whether or not you like what he does...the fact is give respect the guy got skills and he gets the results. I think it was TD who talked about this but a lot of people in this community either are haters or fans of someone.
Francisco d'Anconia said:
Like I said earlier, you can tell that the film has a bunch of edits. I'd be curious to know the length of time that it took. It would show just how persistent the guy can be.
This is true, I did notice that
potato said:
Reading Snow Plowman’s analysis and listening to the YouTube video analyses and considering that Mystery is considered the best PUA does little more than confirm my opinion that PUAs and the game they play is lame. Regardless of what you guys say, Mystery was never really in charge of the conversation and the girl never showed that much interest. Even after the kiss at the end she didn’t look at all like she was falling for him.
Honestly that set was solid, while the whole "Best PUA" BS is dumb to me as there are many different styles, and people all with different identities it would be dumb to really say one person is better than the rest. In my mind there are AFCs, decent guys, and guys who are GOOD. In this case Mystery is GOOD. (I'm basing this off his archives and how innovative his stuff were)
Trust me, Mystery was leading that whole interaction, sh!t tests doesn't mean she was leading it, she was trying to throw him off his game.
Something I notice about alot of guys is that they expect to see some serious reactions. Like firecrackers and balloons all over the place, with some spectacular sh!t. Thats only certain sets, most sets go down real basic. That set mystery did was very basic. Now if you want chicks jumping up and down, giggling and turned on right then and there, you can do that...but you won't really get solid results.
An example is this set...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ACzfg7mbwU8
That set isn't solid, I bet you if he called she'd flake, but she'd fuk him right then and there. A lot of guys would consider this PU better than the Mystery PU. O yea I'm just waiting for guys to now jump out and say that this chick was just a slut lol.
potato said:
By comparison here is how I approach women.
I am a very happy person. I’ve long known that wherever I go that people are drawn to me because of it. Typically when I first meet a woman there is a great deal of eye contact. This eye contact is not just looking at each other but communicating at a basic animalistic level which generates quite a bit of emotional energy between us that tends to build. Once we begin to speak it is already on.
I think many people think of me as being quiet and shy yet when I connect with someone I am never at a loss for words. Whereas Mystery is constantly thinking in terms of what he is saying and how it is getting him closer to his goal, I just say whatever; just enjoy the moment regardless of the outcome. I don’t have any stock stories and I never try to calibrate with or counteract what the woman is saying or in anyway try to lead the conversation. I have no plan or method I just start talking. It’s an adventure into the unknown.
Me and you have very similar way of approaching except I also know outer game for logistics purposes. Really its all just different styles. Calibration is something that needs to be balanced because majority of the time it's not needed. I guy who is uncalibrated will do mistake such as when a chick is saying "No" he'd automatically give up not realizing she just isn't ready yet just keep on moving the interaction forward.
As far as outer game goes it is also a bit of importance because most guys would have no clue how to approach that chick on the train who is with 4 of her male co-workers, they wouldn't know how to meet a woman and get her back to his or her house within an hour or two.
potato said:
I don’t think that a woman has ever given me a sh!t test. If it would have been me there rather than Mystery she wouldn’t have been giving me crap over the way I was dressed. More likely she would have been looking at me, smiling, quite possibly doing that squirm thing some women do. She would reach up and touch my hair or my arm or shoulder saying something like “nice hair” or “nice arms” or some comment on how my smile makes her feel.
All girls give sh!t tests you just aren't aware of it, if a chick isn't attracted to a guy she won't bother giving him any sh!t tests.
potato said:
So, I’m not at all impressed by Mystery’s performance. From my perspective he put a lot of effort into getting a girl who will most likely flake on him. I’ll take my charm over Mystery’s method any day.
Trust me from the looks of it, that set was solid. You can't really notice it unless you can actually see whats going on. It's like hearing japanese but not knowing a word of japanese so you can't really understand.
Basically before the camera even came on she was attracted, she was giving him serious sh!t tests to see if he was congruent to the value he projected because your average man couldn't wear what he is wearing. He passed all that stuff and she was becoming more and more attracted. Finally she started to settling down and realize he is who he projects himself to be and she now started qualifying herself to him. At the end you then see he was starting to actually get into comfort with her which it then cuts off.
The biggest problem about Mystery Method is that it implies that a guy is going in with lower value than the chick and that you have to make her notice that your value is on her level which is why I never really liked MM because I don't even think of myself as lower value than any chick.
But I must say he is good at demonstrating his value. But this is why Pickup should never be recorded because guys will see the video and think "Thats it" expecting to see some extravaganza type of pickup when really its just socializing.
One of my most ATTRACTED chicks was a chick who barely talked, she just sat there and watched me live my life. Logically I couldn't said she wasn't attracted, but this chick I can easily say LOVED me, and if I was to record our interactions you'd be bored out your ass because you'd see 10mins of her sitting there as I talk to other people. 1-2 mins of me giving her some attention and then going to do my own thing. She just loved being in my reality and being with me. The day that a friend of mine wanted to talk to her, and I basically backed off of her was the day I seen her look like she was about to cry and also when she was with my friend she looked as if she was asking me to help her.
This is why in my mind if a chick is still interacting with you then it is still ON play that sh!t to the hills. Now while I wasn't looking at Mystery's set from this perspective because many people don't have the same belief as me but if I was to see it from my perspective that sh!t was on before the camera even had cut on.
Yes I think he is weird, Yes I think he is a bit of a nerdy, but in the end he still gets results.