Why are men shamed for using escorts/hookers? Isnt that the ultimate dread if a guy has used them?

[AureliusMaximus]

This is exactly it! Women also want a man most would consider of value, a man paying for sex displays he is of such low value that he basically bribes a woman to fvck him. A man who is of high value is desirable for a woman to fvck, even higher value and he may get the woman to pay if he demands it.

I keep saying that leaning on dread as a strategy is ill advised. Making a woman feel like she won the lottery is so much more powerful and that by itself would make her dread losing you, without any additional effort trying to induce dread.

The key is to make her dread losing you by being of so high value she knows other women would want to throw themselves at him or even pay to fvck him. As such, a man paying to fvck a prostitute is the furthest away from being that high value man as he can possibly get.

Indeed.
I know I am a man of high value/SMV (and chicks know it too), and I have no problem getting women and it for free.
So why would I ever devalue myself?

 

[Serenity]

So why would I ever devalue myself?

You wouldn't, but I've seen this idea of dread game come up from time to time and apparently they will.

I see the argument OP is making as being born out of a negative thought pattern and focus on the negative. Dread is just a small part of their motivation to stay loyal to a man, but if she's not strongly drawn to him for positive reasons then there is no game to speak of. Give her something very positive and she will naturally be afraid to lose it, that's how dread actually works. It's a passive effect, a byproduct of simply being great which is the effect of what a man actively does.

By focusing on inducing dread a man is completely missing the target, it ONLY works if she ALREADY holds him in high regard and that by itself induces the dread. So dread is pointless to actively focus on, putting the focus on the positive will lead to natural dread and so much more.

Dread is nothing more than a psychological fun fact, it's not even functionally useful to be aware of it and if anything awareness of it may cause one to sabotage oneself more by trying to apply it actively. We should focus on the other end of it, what makes a guy irresistible to a woman? Therein lies the real useful advice.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Again I agree @Serenity
Dread games = silly games for the unsecure little bois.

She enters your frame and will be afraid to lose access it if you are of high value, (Where not talking money here). No need to play silly games.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If you don’t follow the “women are pure as the driven snow and can do no wrong” mantra then you are a “woman hater”.

I mean darn their treachery and betrayal were mentioned in the Bible.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

their treachery and betrayal were mentioned in the Bible

It is mentioned to some point/degree. I'm just not the religious type, so I do not know to the tee the details.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Is this a serious question?

Its a simple question, do you believe elon musk and scott cook gets in a club and wome thirst over elon musk?

Actually she wants both. Elon for her provider and the other one for the second half of her strategy.

Yes agree but what matter is who bangs her and make her think about him not who pays her bills as her father was used to.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

How about not being her husband for one.

Being someone else's husband

 

[zinc4]

This is exactly it! Women also want a man most would consider of value, a man paying for sex displays he is of such low value that he basically bribes a woman to fvck him. A man who is of high value is desirable for a woman to fvck, even higher value and he may get the woman to pay if he demands it.

I keep saying that leaning on dread as a strategy is ill advised. Making a woman feel like she won the lottery is so much more powerful and that by itself would make her dread losing you, without any additional effort trying to induce dread.

The key is to make her dread losing you by being of so high value she knows other women would want to throw themselves at him or even pay to fvck him. As such, a man paying to fvck a prostitute is the furthest away from being that high value man as he can possibly get.

Not true at all unless it's a man who has no other options except prostitutes. Most of the biggest celebrities, professional athletes and politicians get pros frequently and they can get any women they want. One word: convenience.

 

[Serenity]

Not true at all unless it's a man who has no other options except prostitutes. Most of the biggest celebrities, professional athletes and politicians get pros frequently and they can get any women they want. One word: convenience.

Most men are not celebrities with more money than they can possibly spend, not comparable.

 

[BadBoy89]

Agree, I realized myself its too late for me to have a happy family.

Those things work when the guy is below 30 and she is below 25, thats when they are both "fresh and receptive", free from baggage and can bond while sharing life experiences together in sensitive years.

But why do you want a family in the West? When the powers that be give women power, education, sexual freedom, and encourage all men to be subservient to women, and women are encouraged to divorce and destroy men if they are not happy, there is no reason to get married. It's a sham.

The only thing is having a baby. But you don't need marriage for that, just got find a girl who is stable and doesn't have a kid. That's the tricky part.

But to each his own, some guys want a family, some guys don't.

 

[corrector]

I mean darn their treachery and betrayal were mentioned in the Bible.

What are you talking about?

 

[B80]

Its a simple question, do you believe elon musk and scott cook gets in a club and wome thirst over elon musk?


Yes agree but what matter is who bangs her and make her think about him not who pays her bills as her father was used to.

I imagine both would get female attention, musk would get more though.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What are you talking about?

Bathsheba, eve, Sammons wife there are many others.

 

[corrector]

Bathsheba, eve, Sammons wife there are many others.

Bathsheba was innocent. She was basically raped by King David. You can't say a woman is beautiful, a man plots to sleep with her and murder her husband, and then blame the woman for that.

Samson's married an enemy woman/ Philistine, and he disobeyed God's laws rather than marry another Israelite. The message is not about Delilah being treacherous, but about Sampson putting himself in a bad situation that wasn't necessary. It's not a general issue about women.

By the way, I personally would not be rooting for either David or Sampson. Both of them have no issues finding any woman. David had many different wives and didn't have to go with Bathsheba like that. God spared His life because He was genuinely repentant for what he did and sorry for what he did. Sampson also had limitless physical strength and could get with any woman he wanted to. He didn't settle for Delilah because of a lack of options. He had plenty of options but chose to be stupid by dealing with that woman and then sharing his secrets to her.

However, go on...what other examples do you have? Remember, in the Bible context, you didn't have feminism or matriarchy, so the man is more responsible for the choices that he is making and the outcomes that flow from that.

 

[corrector]

No, no, no, no. We are warned time after time about the Jezebels.

All escorts will carry the Jezebel spirit. Women who carry the Jezebel spirt will wreck havoc in your life.

They carry allot more demons then that. They've got lithe (who wont submit to man, tries to usurp Eve), succubus. I got a panic attack and nervous melt-down from demonic attacks after visiting a Brazilian hor back in December 5, 2014 so I know first hand some of them have allot of demons and they could attack you and mess your mind up badly. I am free from these types of spirits now. I wish it was just the woman, but it's the woman plus these demons and it makes it kinda occultic.

But I'm sure you probably meant it in more of a subtle and indirect way as it is for most people. I still can't figure out what happened there up to today for such a jarring experience.

The Bible also goes to lengths to point out what makes a good wife. There is a balance.

Unfortunately too few men screen women. They see a nice pair of titties and that's it! They are gone! The Jezebel has
them by the balls. A man should never let a Jezebel near his home his sanctuary, but this would require boundaries.

Proverbs 12:4
an excellent wife is the crown of her husband, but she who brings shame is like rottenness in his bones.

Proverbs 14:1
The wisest of women builds her house, but folly with her own hands tears it down

Agreed.

 

[MatureDJ]

Its about what you want, not what she wants. People who always worry about what women want always have to worry "gee, is she attracted to me, I wonder if I'll make a move" and then get amogged by someone else who is more confident. Just paying for it is worth taking a break out of that mindset.

I pretty much take the attitude with any gal I'm with like I am hiring a pro, moving her around to various positions, especially the spooning position when I'm a bit tired. I've had gals tell me that I seem bigger in this position, and indeed, this position usually does the trick with women with a looser vajaya. I am focused purely on me getting an ejaculation(s).

That said, I don't tell a gal to do oral, although I certainly encourage it; I remember one gal wanting hints as to how to do it, and I was definitely the patient, understanding professor.

Oh, and I also don't poke in the poop chute.

 

[MatureDJ]

Funny how many men here act as if they can have sex anytime with top notch women (optically)

"optically"?

 

[MatureDJ]

I'm going to just not reply to posters who can't seem to put 1 and 1 together and need everything spelled out to them.

The message is not to have sex. The message is to navigate your ship into the waters of women who want you completely. Try to meditate on this a moment before rushing to hit the reply button and taking bits and pieces out of context. Or go off and search for one of your dumb articles from 1992 about how a 16 year old girl says all men are meanie guts to keep your hyper little brain distracted.



Again you are being really annoying here taking something out of context and not fully getting the whole.

If you are with a real girlfriend who is faking it THEN YOU ARE NOT WITH A WOMAN WHO IS FULLY SUBMISSIVE / FULLY INTO YOU which is the essence of what I wrote. A girlfriend who has to fake it is no longer in her FEMININE Part of the MAS / FEM POLARITY .

A real girl fakes nothing with a man she is fully into. A man fully in his MASCULINE wouldn't have it.

Oh, what pap. A gal that feels the need to fake it, or tell me how big I am, etc., is showing her interest in me.

 

[MatureDJ]

Ignored for being in incoherent baboon.

And likewise I shall ignore for being grammatically incorrect.

 

[MatureDJ]

They carry allot more demons then that. They've got lithe (who wont submit to man, tries to usurp Eve), succubus. I got a panic attack and nervous melt-down from demonic attacks after visiting a Brazilian hor back in December 5, 2014 so I know first hand some of them have allot of demons and they could attack you and mess your mind up badly. I am free from these types of spirits now. I wish it was just the woman, but it's the woman plus these demons and it makes it kinda occultic.

But I'm sure you probably meant it in more of a subtle and indirect way as it is for most people. I still can't figure out what happened there up to today for such a jarring experience.



Agreed.

Wow, that episode sounds like Cher's song "Dark Lady".