Who Pays for Porn? Who are the simps?

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Soft rejection leaves the door open. ‘I have a boyfriend.’ A girl I was an acquaintance with told me that. However. Several months later, they broke up & we started dating. I asked a coworker out. She deflected it. I ssked her out a few months later and she said ‘yes’.
Those rejections you describe seem over the top nuclear war level rejections. The worst rejection I’ve seem was a friend & I were at s club (he actually is ugly 3/10 but White, tall & in shape). He is not an incel. He can only date Asians. He hit on a White girl at the club. She said ‘Get lost creep!’. I’d consider that sn extreme hard rejection.
Nuclear war rejections seem more likely to happen on daygame if you are a 3/10. Nightgame usually does not go that far fr what I understand. Lets say that guy spammed approached hb7+ white women in a mall then he might get the nuclear rejection. What about your ethnic incel friends?
 
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Nuclear war rejections seem more likely to happen on daygame if you are a 3/10. Nightgame usually does not go that far fr what I understand. Lets say that guy spammed approached hb7+ white women in a mall then he might get the nuclear rejection. What about your ethnic incel friends?
my ethnic friends are either married or just not really trying. Except the Hapa guy who might be able to get an Asian. But tries, unsuccessfully, for White women.
 

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Exactly. You can see my prior (before abstainence/repentance) OnlyFans interactions are so hyper-realistic that even you are vibing with my posts (ie where you are meeting real women at a club/bar, etc...). Whatever is going on here, this seems rather eerily real with me for something that's virtual. You can see that I almost had a level of fun comparable to someone who is meeting women in real life in flesh & blood. But, I can never talk that way about any free porn, lol!
I have only experienced communication in a Chaturbate webcam, but there is something nice about a hot gal there that thanks you by your (avatar) name; when I see a Ukrainian gal, I like to post "Slava Ukraini Heroiam" ("Glory to the Ukrainian Heroes"), which always gets the gal to smile and even give the hand-heart. Some gals (for a big enough tip of course) will write the tipper's name on her sexy body, and in a strange way, such a man could say to own a piece of her. And for a real big "private" tip, she's there shaking her a33 for you and you alone - at least until you upload that recorded session to a porn site for others to see - which makes you the Alpha Man of the Group, LOL.

Look, it's not as good as having that hot girl naked next to you in bed, but if it's OVER for a man to achieve that, there are lower goals like this that are reachable.
 

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The post I wrote stated that I am abstaining/repented of this and am not using it because of religious reasons until at least the end of September. The world should end before this time and I want to be pure when it does.
OK, I'll bite - what happens at the end of September?
 

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Same guys who go to strip clubs and only get a lap dance for 100-200 euros :)

Men are obsessed with being seen as manly and for people to obey what he says

Since life is not like that, in most cases, they end up taking drugs like this

I heard that even at prostitutes, the vast majority of guys are married or in a relationship and tired of being nagged by their partner, so they go to prostitutes that will fulfill their fantasies or fixations

You rarely have actual incels doing stuff like this, most incels are actually afraid of women
It's ridiculous to be in Europe and pay that for a lap dance, when a 'ho is available for vaginal service for the same price. It's been my experience that a lap dance in the USA goes for $20-25 (although maybe inflation has raised that).
 

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OK, I'll bite - what happens at the end of September?
October starts. Probably nothing at all. Of course if nothing happens I might get impatient and relapse. But that is where the trick is. It happens when you least expect it. The day you let your guard down, it would happen the next day. If I am expecting it to happen at the end of September, it does not happen, so a massive relapse into porn happens then then "boom!!!", too late, missed the boat.

Earlier this month when I was enjoying OF, my mother told me it can happen any moment and it will be soon. She was in another room and cant walk properly so there is no way she could have known I was on OF when she said that. I then settled to wait until the end of September and see if it will happen between now and then. Only one person knows when this will happen but I can only wait so long before wanting to go on OF again.
 
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The majority of men going to paid porn are looking for something they are not comfortable asking for in reality. Lots of them are looking for someone to dominate them, JOI very popular, or to talk about the fact they want to have sex with men but don't admit it, unusual kinks and fetishes yada. I think it's probably a starting step for some to move on with it later or some just like to talk about it with someone
 

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The majority of men going to paid porn are looking for something they are not comfortable asking for in reality. Lots of them are looking for someone to dominate them, JOI very popular, or to talk about the fact they want to have sex with men but don't admit it, unusual kinks and fetishes yada. I think it's probably a starting step for some to move on with it later or some just like to talk about it with someone
I would say that majority are looking for something that they cannot attain in reality. :rolleyes:
 

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The majority of men going to paid porn are looking for something they are not comfortable asking for in reality. Lots of them are looking for someone to dominate them, JOI very popular, or to talk about the fact they want to have sex with men but don't admit it, unusual kinks and fetishes yada. I think it's probably a starting step for some to move on with it later or some just like to talk about it with someone
Why do you think JOI is popular? In fact JOI is the lonely man with no gf, no female friends, no wife porn because its predicated in having a lady look at you through the screen and talk to you like you are important. Much in the same way as OnlyFans. It points to growing desperation, isolation, loneliness and inceldom.

Whenever I have a real life woman then JOI nosedives as being a porn genre of any interest.
 

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OF is virtually rejection proof as a woman cant see your face and base her treatment of you on how you look. All she has to know is how my d1ck looks and her treatment of me is just based on that because its the only thing that should matter anyway.
All those even slightly popular pages are not managed by the girls you see in the pictures and all the text stuff, even with photos and videos, is mostly fake. If you sent a ****pick to a girl and she replied something, most likely it was some guy working for her sending out all those messages. The only foolproof thing is a one-on-one videochat with her or some custom video with her saying your name. You can read more about it here: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/16/magazine/e-pimps-onlyfans.html
 

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All those even slightly popular pages are not managed by the girls you see in the pictures and all the text stuff, even with photos and videos, is mostly fake. If you sent a ****pick to a girl and she replied something, most likely it was some guy working for her sending out all those messages. The only foolproof thing is a one-on-one videochat with her or some custom video with her saying your name. You can read more about it here: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/16/magazine/e-pimps-onlyfans.html
Disagree with the two specific girls I dealt with. The first one gave a video rating so I actually saw her on video. A custom video with my name would have cost $ 100, where as a video without my name would cost $ 20. I'm not interested in throwing away an extra $ 80 to hear my name or prove the same person is real. Also video-chats with OF girls are expensive. Some of them can charge $ 250-$500 for a video-chat. If you are determined to throw away that type of money to prove an OF girl is real then that would fulfill the stereotype and premise that OF attracts simps as only a simp would blow that type of money just for a video-chat or a custom video with a name. At that rate, why deal with OF at all? You may as well just escortcell unless you are a shut-in for medical reasons.

The second one is an escort who claims she does not have allot of time to work on her OF and I can visit her in person if I was determined to see her in person. Again, I'm do not care to go over the trouble of booking a $ 300/hr, (or whatever her charge) appointment just to verify that her page is real. The fact I'm used her page, in the past means I'm not interested escortcelling or even prank-visiting this escort to see if she's real or not (she has allot of great reviews on her page, my loss I guess). The fact she is accessbile as an escort vets her page in and of itself, and it also vets her as not being a police sting operation.

With some basic understanding of what she's offering, or her accessibility if she's working as an escort, is good enough to determine if something is real or not. Therefore, going insane (figuratively) and spending a load of money on a custom-video or video-chat or full-blown escortcelling (when you don't want to because of religious reasons) is a bit much to verify if something is real or not.
 
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Disagree with the two specific girls I dealt with. The first one gave a video rating so I actually saw her on video. The second one is an escort who claims she does not have allot of time to work on her OF and I can visit her in person if I was determined to see her in person.
It's always a gamble tbh but if they are not very active on the website then it means they don't use an agency, probably just a manager or even manage the page themselves. The stuff you see in your custom videos or in a video chat is a different thing, yeah, especially if you ask her to say your name.

I prefer "**** rating" during sex though, lol
 

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Disagree with the two specific girls I dealt with. The first one gave a video rating so I actually saw her on video. A custom video with my name would have cost $ 100, where as a video without my name would cost $ 20. I'm not interested in throwing away an extra $ 80 to hear my name or prove the same person is real. Also video-chats with OF girls are expensive. Some of them can charge $ 250-$500 for a video-chat. If you are determined to throw away that type of money to prove an OF girl is real then that would fulfill the stereotype and premise that OF attracts simps as only a simp would blow that type of money just for a video-chat or a custom video with a name. At that rate, why deal with OF at all? You may as well just escortcell unless you are a shut-in for medical reasons.

The second one is an escort who claims she does not have allot of time to work on her OF and I can visit her in person if I was determined to see her in person. Again, I'm do not care to go over the trouble of booking a $ 300/hr, (or whatever her charge) appointment just to verify that her page is real. The fact I'm used her page, in the past means I'm not interested escortcelling or even prank-visiting this escort to see if she's real or not (she has allot of great reviews on her page, my loss I guess). The fact she is accessbile as an escort vets her page in and of itself, and it also vets her as not being a police sting operation.

With some basic understanding of what she's offering, or her accessibility if she's working as an escort, is good enough to determine if something is real or not. Therefore, going insane (figuratively) and spending a load of money on a custom-video or video-chat or full-blown escortcelling (when you don't want to because of religious reasons) is a bit much to verify if something is real or not.
Just saw that you've edited your reply.

It's not a matter of money really, it's about understanding how this business works and what kind of stuff you can 100% be sure about.

The bottom line is it's fine to buy videos, pictures, order customs. To act as if all this is more "personal", that the girl in question is your "virtual girlfriend" is outright cringe but many guys do. I know some girls who make money there. One of them uses several chatters, another one used to work with an agency and now has one of her own. The other two girls are running it together with their boyfriend/husband (one of the girls is married) who does lots of the chatting and even text d-rates.

The only things the girls always do themselves are customs, video d-rates and video chats. D-rates are obviously never true and unless you deliberately ask her to humiliate you they are always positive and she always likes what you show her. And if you are particularly unlucky, they can send you a pre-made video at a price of a custom (the price usually starts at $20/minute) if the scenario of your custom isn't that unique. "Sexting" videos and photos are always pre-made too, otherwise it takes them too long to upload the media in real time and it's also not that cost-effective for the girl.

As I said, it's almost always a gamble. There are girls who manage all their stuff and do all the talking, I won't deny that. They don't have tens of thousands of fans though and if they do, they have chatters.

And regarding your question "At that rate, why deal with OF at all?" I'll never understand why to deal with it at all at any rate.
 

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Disagree with the two specific girls I dealt with. The first one gave a video rating so I actually saw her on video. A custom video with my name would have cost $ 100, where as a video without my name would cost $ 20. I'm not interested in throwing away an extra $ 80 to hear my name or prove the same person is real. Also video-chats with OF girls are expensive. Some of them can charge $ 250-$500 for a video-chat. If you are determined to throw away that type of money to prove an OF girl is real then that would fulfill the stereotype and premise that OF attracts simps as only a simp would blow that type of money just for a video-chat or a custom video with a name. At that rate, why deal with OF at all? You may as well just escortcell unless you are a shut-in for medical reasons.

The second one is an escort who claims she does not have allot of time to work on her OF and I can visit her in person if I was determined to see her in person. Again, I'm do not care to go over the trouble of booking a $ 300/hr, (or whatever her charge) appointment just to verify that her page is real. The fact I'm used her page, in the past means I'm not interested escortcelling or even prank-visiting this escort to see if she's real or not (she has allot of great reviews on her page, my loss I guess). The fact she is accessbile as an escort vets her page in and of itself, and it also vets her as not being a police sting operation.

With some basic understanding of what she's offering, or her accessibility if she's working as an escort, is good enough to determine if something is real or not. Therefore, going insane (figuratively) and spending a load of money on a custom-video or video-chat or full-blown escortcelling (when you don't want to because of religious reasons) is a bit much to verify if something is real or not.
Lets call it the DIYH(D in your hand) policy.

Once you are sitting with your diyh your are vulnerable to all kinds of scams. Horniness, loneliness, vulnerability insecurity in combination with lowered inhibitions sue to substance abuse will make you pull your wallet to obtain whatever it is you're worshipping in the moment.

That's why free porn is offered. Because iirc every free porn site will link you to OF types of sites( predominantly OF and live jasmin) . The only way to get there is through free porn.

Remember that. And.Soon as you pay you've opened a new chapter of Pandora's box ,and the combination of shame guilt and pleasure will keep you there for a while. And its NOT cheap at all! You are right that it doesn't take long before you've spent hooker money. Might actually be 50 bucks and more from the get go.
 

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Lets call it the DIYH(D in your hand) policy.

Once you are sitting with your diyh your are vulnerable to all kinds of scams. Horniness, loneliness, vulnerability insecurity in combination with lowered inhibitions sue to substance abuse will make you pull your wallet to obtain whatever it is you're worshipping in the moment.
I disagree with that since in practise, everything with me is highly calculated. I don't drink alcohol or do any type of drugs and I'm tight with finances most of the time so I would have to be in a dire need on something that's debatable on whether it is actually a "need" or not in the first place, and everything is calculated in terms of what is spent out. You use your wallet to buy things that you need not worship. Do you worship water because you need to drink?

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That's why free porn is offered. Because iirc every free porn site will link you to OF types of sites( predominantly OF and live jasmin) . The only way to get there is through free porn.
All of my OF links came from escort ad sites (and I had to deliberately and intentionally look for that as in some cases there was no link, but you had to blow up their picture and find it there). Escorts tend to want clients to visit them in person, not run OF sites properly or even try to virtually substitute a visit. They are all virtually pushing in-person visits rather than imaginary visits.

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Remember that. And.Soon as you pay you've opened a new chapter of Pandora's box ,and the combination of shame guilt and pleasure will keep you there for a while. And its NOT cheap at all! You are right that it doesn't take long before you've spent hooker money. Might actually be 50 bucks and more from the get go.
Right then why have I stopped this for over a month - two months? There are no subscriptions I currently have on. You are really free to stop and move-on any time, and if you want to re-engage, then it's there. There is no "hooker money or hooker budget" that exists.

What have you noticed since I've stopped OF? Definitely getting more aggressive posts chiming into incel topics on other threads compared to when I was on it before.
 

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Here is a video of real simps:


That is what most people are who are dating/relationshiop above their looksmatch.

You obfescute the meaning of simpery when you make it something that its not. I'm sure the guy in that video does not think he's a simp.
 

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I disagree with that since in practise, everything with me is highly calculated. I don't drink alcohol or do any type of drugs and I'm tight with finances most of the time so I would have to be in a dire need on something that's debatable on whether it is actually a "need" or not in the first place, and everything is calculated in terms of what is spent out. You use your wallet to buy things that you need not worship. Do you worship water because you need to drink?



All of my OF links came from escort ad sites (and I had to deliberately and intentionally look for that as in some cases there was no link, but you had to blow up their picture and find it there). Escorts tend to want clients to visit them in person, not run OF sites properly or even try to virtually substitute a visit. They are all virtually pushing in-person visits rather than imaginary visits.



Right then why have I stopped this for over a month - two months? There are no subscriptions I currently have on. You are really free to stop and move-on any time, and if you want to re-engage, then it's there. There is no "hooker money or hooker budget" that exists.

What have you noticed since I've stopped OF? Definitely getting more aggressive posts chiming into incel topics on other threads compared to when I was on it before.
I do worship water. You will too when you are in walking in a dessert. I dont wanma be in that predicament before i appreciate it.

You opened the box, meaning it will take VERY much discipline to stay away from it. I salute you for doing that ny the way.

The part about substance abuse is obviously a personal pov. I just noticed how seemingly substances mingle "perfectly " with porn abuse: its all dopamine related.
 

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I do worship water. You will too when you are in walking in a dessert. I dont wanma be in that predicament before i appreciate it.
King David poured the water on the ground when he was extremely thirsty, so you dont have to. Google it for that story. Worship is a religious term that is very triggering. You are implying that idolatry is going on. So no, I dont make an idol out of water or anything. That is all I can say about the issue of worship.

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You opened the box, meaning it will take VERY much discipline to stay away from it. I salute you for doing that ny the way.
Not really, I am not spiritually compatible with it so its like a similar realm to having pet spiders around. Its that creepy type of feeling. When you are under its spell it could be a nice thing but that is a bewitching type of happiness.

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The part about substance abuse is obviously a personal pov. I just noticed how seemingly substances mingle "perfectly " with porn abuse: its all dopamine related.
Well then compare me with a religious monk with an axe to grind against being celebate then whose only vice is the beauty and allure of women. That and food (but I am working on that).
 
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