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Its a jokeIgetit! said:Rocket surgery? Operating on rockets? O...K. That's a new one.
Never heard that before.
Its a jokeIgetit! said:Rocket surgery? Operating on rockets? O...K. That's a new one.
Never heard that before.
The Master Disaster said:Wow, that's not a bad idea Sandow. It's just I don't go to parties. I tend to do bars/pool and hang out with friends. I'll do fight parties, but I don't think she likes UFC or Boxing. I just don't like the scene at parties (beer pong and shotgunning). It just seems like a waste of time to me, so I stopped going to them, and eventually people gave up and stopped inviting me.
I agree though with a lot of what you said Sandow.
It probably would be good if I get some new clothes and possibly a new haircut. And when the semester rolls around, just blow her away with my new look. My look right now isn't terrible. I won't lie it's conservative. I wear nice clothes, but I think it might be good idea to stream line my look. I could easily pull off the sharp, successful guy. Rather than a look not quite there.
Definitely when school rolls around, I'll give her a call. I was talking to one of my buddies, he's a really good friend from high school. I told him the situation, and he's like just wait till school starts up again.
I mean I agree because we all have families here, and she's like 45 mins away. Not to mention if we were to see each other it would most likely end up having to meet each others family... I just want to take the things slow.
However, I really do like the idea of dropping her something funny on facebook. It may keep that flame alive somehow, so it's not like 4 weeks no word. Boom call "Wanna go out?"
Sandow, did you mean that I should just reply to what she said on my pictures? or do you mean write something funny on her wall?
I like the idea of in 3 or 4 days writing something C&F on her wall. Make her laugh and think at the same time. But the thing is it would have to be hilarious and ****y, otherwise it'd be total friendzone material.
So yea, I agree with you. I should keep some sort of slow dialogue between us and when school rolls around bring a new look and a new attitude.
Just an idea, what if I line up a party for New Years, what do you think? Ask her to that? That might be a fun thing to take her to.
Wow, if anything this thread should be a lesson to what happens when a girl is really interested, and you don't pull the damn trigger.
Pain, Suffering, and Confusion...
Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I appreciate your response, but don't give me that canned sh!t.Pimp-sicle said:Your still putting this chick who I can assure you is a typical college party w-hore on an extremely high pedestal. Don't change your look to get a reaction out of her, don't suddenly start being funny to get her interest, don't write on her wall because someone suggested it.
What you honestly need is to step away from this situation for a while and work on developing your inner game bro, because right now its not there. Your drastically over-thinking this situation and making it much more difficult than it really is or should be.
Think back to something you were really afraid of when you were younger. Maybe roller coasters, snakes, fat girls (haha) and remember how you felt when you let that object, thing, person take control of you. Now think of how you felt once you conquered that fear, phobia, perception...big difference right?
Well girls are no different. Even if you start talking to this girl again and get her interest, it will be temporary. Why??? Because eventually she'll be able to see right through you and the front your putting on. Your actions aren't congruent with your words and she will sniff this out like a crime dog finding dope.
I'm all for being persistent and taking chances, but truthfully you need to start believing in yourself and stop thinking that things like "a new haircut" "new clothes" "being funny suddenly" will get this one girl.
Forget this one girl and work on you, then you'll be able to have any girl you want and they'll be over-analyzing over you instead.
PIMP
Woah,woah,hold up dude. No need to get hostile. Pimp-sicle was just trying to help you out man. Just like everybody else.The Master Disaster said:I appreciate your response, but don't give me that canned sh!t.
Yeah man. We figured this one out about a hundred replies ago. But hey,even I was at this stage at one point,just like everyone else.The Master Disaster said:See my problem is solely based in my head. I can talk to women. I can make them highly interested, but I can't pull that trigger because I over analyze and am afraid of rejection.
My guess is that this girl you're after must be an attractive woman,very attractive. If that's the case,then she must have hundreds of other guys after her,too. I don't doubt all of these qualities you say you have to offer this girl,but do you honestly think that none of the other guys who are after her can say the same thing? You think you're the only guy who's handsome,or can play the guitar,or who's funny,or who has a nice car?The Master Disaster said:I'll probably get flamed for this, but my guess to the reason she's still showing me an ounce of interest is because no other guy has come close to the amount of stuff I've offered her.
Oh..ok,so you're thinking for her now,right? This is what you think she's thinking. But you know what? Let's say you're right and this indeed is what's in her mind. That being the case,now answer me this: Why hasn't she returned your phone call yet?The Master Disaster said:She's probably like damn; he's the complete package.
You've been holding out on us man. When did this conversation take place? I don't remember you posting anything about this.The Master Disaster said:BTW, I passed her "Do you want kids test" with flying colors. We had the exact same number, but I wish women didn't ask the damn question all the time.
A semi-date? What the heck is that? Did you pick her up in a 18 wheeler or something? Oh,oh, I get it. That's a date where two people are involved,but only one knows it's a date. Alright,I gotcha. You threw me off there for a second.The Master Disaster said:Of course, I then took her on a semi-date...
Well,I guess there's no sense in trying to tell you otherwise. You seem to have your mind made up that you're going to continue to pursue this girl. You're persistant,I'll give you that.The Master Disaster said:So now I'm at the position where I'm interested in this girl, and I know she for some reason still has interest in me.
So the problem is the timing now. So next year,once school has started back,and the timing is better,what do you plan to do? I want to know.The Master Disaster said:Yet, the timing is terrible. If this were not Christmas, it would make it a lot easier, or if she lived closer than an hour away. At college, she's 5 mins away.
Well after you do this,let us know how she responds. I'm curious to know what her reaction will be.The Master Disaster said:I still think leaving something on her wall or messaging her is a good way to show her that I still am interested, and it's a good way to transition into a date over the break.
Maybe he needs to have his heart torn through? He hasn't listened to the endlessly great advice he has been given, so I shall let him carry on as he means to go on. He'll figure it out too late (of course), but maybe this will help give him the kick up the ass he clearly needs. If he can pluck up the "courage" to ask this girl out and she rejects him because she has found someone who isn't a chump then the rejection will be felt and he can kill two birds with one stone. He can combat his fear of asking a girl out and being rejected all in one. You go, Master Disaster.Al Moh. said:Protect yourself, protect your heart!
The Master Disaster said:I appreciate your response, but don't give me that canned sh!t.
None of it was canned, just breaking it down on a simple level so you can relate to it to see where your steering off course.
I'm not your typical "I can't get womens to like me guy."
Never said you were, but the end result is the same; the guy who can capture a woman's interest but can't close and the guy who can't gain a woman's interest off the bat still end up in the same boat. You just need some fine tuning to get the desired result you want.
See my problem is solely based in my head. I can talk to women. I can make them highly interested, but I can't pull that trigger because I over analyze and afraid of rejection.
That's every guy's problem, they defeat themselves before they even finish the game. I know tons of good looking guy's who can't get a date to save their lives. Do you know why? They have no inner game.
So before you say "Don't start being funny suddenly" realize, I've been funny since I was born. It's large part of who I am, and my inner game isn't bad at all.
Your interpreting that the wrong way. What I mean by don't suddenly be funny is this; instead of reading every reply here and then constantly changing your mind on how your going to contact her, get away from her for a while. This Christmas break is perfect timing. Spend it having fun, meeting new girls then come back refreshed and with no emotional attachment to this girl and wooohhh her with the Master Disaster who doesn't have this girl on Cloud 9.
The problems lie with closing. Progressing that mutual interest into something sexual, i.e. kissing and buttsecks.
A girl's interest level is dynamic, constantly changing. This situation does not have mutual interest, it has perceived interest. That doesn't mean you can't regain and capture that interest, but once a girl's mind is made up about a guy, its very hard to change it unless a good amount of time passes in between. That's why we are all telling you to pursue other girls in the meanwhile, it will be good for your mindset and put you at easy when you run into this chick again.
Of course, I then took her on a semi-date, which went well but I didn't kiss-close on her, and then she didn't answer my call, which I wouldn't even count as a strike since I didn't leave a voice message.
Again your percieved interest tells you the date went well. If that were truly the case from her pespective you would have gone on another date with her by now. Whether you left a message or not doesn't mean anything. You still called her, she knows that you called and didn't returned your phone call. Again, if her interest was high enough in you she would have called you back.
So now I'm at the position where I'm interested in this girl, and I know she for some reason still has interest in me.
Again these are your thoughts, her actions sing a different tune.
The timing couldn't be worse. If this were not Christmas, it would make it a lot easier, or if she lived closer than an hour away. At college, she's 5 mins away.
I agree here to a certain degree, that's why you should be focusing on other stuff right now. But again a girl with high interest will make time for you, she'll meet up with you, she'll call you etc.
I still think leaving something on her wall or messaging her is a good way to show her that I still am interested, and it's a good way to transition into a date over the break.
See this is where your mindset shows your weak inner game. Your worried about showing her that your still interested, when it should be the other way around. Show interest, but never chase a girl or her attention, believe us all, she gets enough of it already.
Yea, I have her number, but I didn't give her a call. She was a 7 or 8. She laughed a couple times then came up to me. We talked for a couple minutes; then, I said I had to run, and she gave me her number. I probably should of given her a call, but it was finals week, and I completely forgot. I was flat out swamped with 4 term papers and finals.SuSHI said:Since you ignored my last post, I am just going to assume you were not avoiding it.
I just want to know, with all these girls you say are hitting on you, why don't you use that as an opportunity to practice escalating? I mean you said you got the number of a girl waiting in line when you were out with your buddy, I can find that exact post, but I think you remember. Did you call her? What happened to that? Did you make that up?
Also, with the other girls who peruse you, why not use them as practice?
also, I was curious, is English your first language?
Well,that good. I was wondering how long this drama was going to go on. I actually had planned to check on this thread on the 14th,the two month anniversary of this thread to see if you had made any progress with this situation,even though I already knew what the answer would be. The friendzone ain't no joke. If you're in it,you're in it,and that's that.The Master Disaster said:Wow, it's been awhile. I kind of moved on with my life mentally and physically. I even found another female interest who I've been seeing non-exclusively
Ok,who are you talking about here? You're not talking about the same girl you started this thread about,are you?The Master Disaster said:She sent me this long text 3/4th's of the text is all "safe" stuff. She hoped I had a good break. She asked me if I was in a class that she was in, and at the very bottom she said, "sumtime next week we need to do lunch," which I'm ready to wager is the point of the text.
I just was curious to see how badly she wanted the lunch, so I through a road block on the time she gave me, and I proposed another time, and she quickly agreed.
I mean, I literally went no contact for 4 weeks. I didn't even reply to her picture comments. Every once and awhile, a thought about her would sleep in, and I'd think about her for about 15 seconds and be like "Damn, f'd that one up." Then move on.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.