Well, I fvcked up...

[The Master Disaster]

I just got back from running (I'm pulling an all-nighter I have like 5 papers due tomorrow... wow, I shouldn't be thinking about this).

I'm gonna go with Pimp on this. I mean if I called her or texted her today or tomorrow. I'm gonna just sink myself deeper in the friendzone like he said.

What I'll do is work on myself for the next four weeks, and then come back and give her a dial.

daygameguy, I think you're semi-right if I see her around campus; I'll just give her a funny/smooth face and say nothing. I don't want to push her... that's a little too extreme...

If she gives me a call, txt, message before next semester. I most likely won't return it. Let her sweat for awhile.

I think this is the best course of action because I also don't have to adapt my schedule around her. If I feel like leaving, I'm leaving. I don't have to wait till Saturday and make an awkward phone call to a girl who probably will say she's busy or not answer.

Rather, I'll return home and work on my inner game. When I get back, she'll probably be curious to what I've been up to, and then that's when I'll ask her out and see what happens.

... I seriously am procrastinating tonight. No joke.

 

[SuSHI]

Master Disaster, a couple of threads back, you said you were in line with your buddy and got some girl's number. Why don't you give her a call, having more girls on the plate will help you cope with this bull.

 

[Al Moh.]

Hey Master Disaster,

let's end this seemingly endless line of posts.

I'll tell you up front: Yes she was very interested in you, one could tell from your first post. Girls do talk about other guys if they are interested in you. BUT, BUT BUT BUT, here is the big difference:

If you are just a friend, she's going to talk about her feelings.

If you are not, she just tells you what he IS DOING. She tells you that he is hunting her, because she wants you to know that others find her attractive (So you should find her attractive too! -> female logic) and she tells you he asked her out because she wanted you to ask her out right now.

Just a bunch of w o m a n e s e really, pook covered this very well.


You are worrying about making mistakes, doing the wrong thing. That's why you tell us what you are going to do all the time but then change you mind again and again because people here are yelling at you.

Let me tell you two things:

1) There are a lot of people on this board but there are just few who really know what they are talking about, or know if their solution apllies to your situation that they don't know much about.

2) You can't do something wrong. The only thing that would be wrong is to do nothing. THAT is AFC. If you ACT, you might not get her, but you are NOT an AFC, because you made a move, you made a mistake and you hopefully LEARNED out of it. This is really what patience and the whole "one single woman doesn't matter" thing is about. Being able to loose some girls interest in exchange for learning.

So leave now! Your endless thought process must be stopped. You've heard enough now, enough oppinions. It's time to make a decision (either still pursue her and make a damn move or rather cut of all contact). It's important for you to make a decision yourself after all this advice you've got. You can't expect people to tell you what to do all the time.

So be a man. Make a decision, stop worrying about it and act. What could happen to you anyways? It seems you've already given up on her. So just do something. You either still loose her ("loose" is in fact the wrong word, because you lost nothing but gained experience) or you get her which is experience + the girl.

Trust me, leave this board and come back when you either got the girl or got over her. There is nothing more here for you to help you with this particular girl.

 

[Tenzen]

From a girl's position,I think she loves you . Maybe she is a little shy .She just waits some words from your mouth. Ask her out ! If she agrees,then congratulations!

hahhaha thats the funniest **** i've seen all week. First things first women do not know the art of picking up women, men do. A womans advice is always for a AFC never a Dj. Do not call saturday! i swear man this entire thread is really a waste if you call saturday. Do you not understand any of these posts people are giving you? Shes not initiating contact!!! I can't believe how some people in this thread keep telling you to not give up blah blah blah. Shes the one giving up, not you. This girls been gone, who cares if its finals or whatever shes gone. If she cant contact you thats it, its over. I have a girl contacting me that i number closed like 2 saturdays ago all the time! She has finals, thats all shes always worried about studying blah blah, did i ever take her on a date no. Do you see the difference between interest and no interest? She used you to get a good grade on the project,then again for that shopping date. Your allowing her to walk all over you! getting nothing in return. This thread has grown into really improving yourself. Not some one dumb btich your obsessing over.

 

[SharinganUser]

I think you should cut off ALL contact with her. If you see her on campus, then just ignore her. I've been in this position more than a few times and the best thing for everyone is if you just stop contacting her.

 

[Energizer]

Go in for the kill, go for the kiss and see what happens. Jesus, even I would have sealed the deal by now, she was practically gagging for you earlier on. She would have given you a blowie had you asked she was that into you.

 

[Sandow]

Igetit: I'm just trying to give this guy some hope, that it's not over. In my head I see two different scenarios: a) She's really busy with school, it's not that she doesnt like him, but that nothing has happened yet. Yea, it's been dragging along, but there is still opportunity. If you got quality game, then there's a chance. I've just never been a fan of giving up, that all. Or

b) She's over it. He had his chance, he never escalated the attraction and now it has fizzled out. She has LJBF zoned him. Game over.

Because we're not there, it's hard to say exactly what's going on. Yea on paper it doesn't sound good, but remember we're only getting a one-sided story from Master Disaster, and it may not even be accurate. His own insecurities and imagination could be skewing the field report.

Master Disaster: Nobody said call her on Saturday! What I'm trying to say here is that you don't need to give up on her entirely. I'm assuming you have game here, not giving up doesnt mean call her every day! I'm saying keep her on your radar. In the meantime you should be pursuing other girls too. yes she's in the picture, but give her some space for now.

You need to let go of your romanticism b.s. You're sounding a bit AFCish. Pick up some tips here, go apply in the field and get better. Then get back at her.

 

[The Master Disaster]

Just to keep you guys up to date because I'm not giving up on her. I think there is some definite chemistry between her and me.

So anyways, I haven't contacted her since last Tuesday, so it's been about 6 days. I haven't missed her at all. I've been busy hanging out with friends.

I uploaded some childhood photos that I thought were pretty funny, and she commented on them. She wrote like "This is Funny!" and the other one was "This is funnier!"

I see this as a good thing, but it may mean friendzone. I don't know really how to take it, but she has like 400 friends on facebook, and ever since that date on Saturday she has barely even used facebook. She use to use it a ridiculous amount, and ever since I've only seen her name pop up every couple days on the feed.

I'll keep the no contact going, but I think this is a good sign, probably doesn't mean much, but at least I know she isn't avoiding me, and she went to look at the pictures I uploaded.

We'll see how the next couple weeks of no contact goes. It might set me up quite well to make a move in January when school starts back up.

 

[Energizer]

I cannot fathom what your logic is here. A girl likes you, makes it blatantly obvious, is aggressive in her pursuit, hands you the initiative and you don’t take it and then go no contact on her. What the hell is going through your mind? From first to last you have made a complete balls of this whole situation which has now turned into a façade of a potential score. I’d give up, but I will warn you, she is a rare girl, but most girls like to sit back and go along with the ride, you’ll need to start putting yourself out more, taking “risks” and seizing opportunities when they arise and next time, don’t over-analyze things, you don’t need to, just follow your instinct. Less thought, less typing and more action.

 

[Igetit!]

Just to keep you guys up to date because I'm not giving up on her. I think there is some definite chemistry between her and me.

I thought this thread was put out to pasture. Oh well,here we go again. So you think there's "chemistry" between you and this girl. This "feeling" you're talking about isn't chemistry. We have another name for it here on the forum. It's called "oneitis".

So anyways, I haven't contacted her since last Tuesday, so it's been about 6 days. I haven't missed her at all. I've been busy hanging out with friends.

This is actually good to hear. So my question is that if you haven't missed her,then why all the sudden interest in trying to contact her again?

I'll keep the no contact going, but I think this is a good sign, probably doesn't mean much, but at least I know she isn't avoiding me, and she went to look at the pictures I uploaded.

So she's not avoiding you,huh? Well did she ever return your phone call? You know,the one you seemed so upset about on 12-09-08?

We'll see how the next couple weeks of no contact goes. It might set me up quite well to make a move in January when school starts back up.

Dude,you starting to get as bad as CapedCrusader08. Since you haven't be sucessful at dating this girl yet,you've started making plans for next year to try to get her. You have no idea how ridiculous that sounds.

Started this thread on 11-14-08,it's currently 12-15-08. Fine then. Let's see what happens by 1-16-09.

 

[The Master Disaster]

Well, instead of beating me up. Some guidance would be nice...

Basically, I'm asking does this mean anything?

 

[Igetit!]

GUIDANCE? For what? You have over 190 replies of guidance for everything you need concerning thig girl. Some guy guys (including me) say to move on,others like Sandow say to keep after her. Basically,those are you're only two options. There's nothing those of us on either side of this can say that we haven't already said in the previous 9 pages of this thread.

Now I have a question. When you say,"Basically,does this mean anything?",what are you talking about? What does what mean?

 

[The Master Disaster]

... I just don't know what to do. I still like her, and I want to go after her.

But do I even have a chance now? She didn't return my phone call, and now we're back at home for Christmas (we both live in Atlanta, but in completely different parts).

But by her commenting on my photos, does that mean anything? I don't know enough about social networking to know what women will do when they are interested or what...

I mean is she trying to get my attention by doing this? Or is a non-issue?

 

[Tenzen]

shes baiting you to call her by sending lil picture comments how nice.... Don't fall for it, or your value can sink even lower...

 

[The Master Disaster]

shes baiting you to call her by sending lil picture comments how nice.... Don't fall for it, or your value can sink even lower...

See that's what I got from it. It felt like bait, and I didn't want to immediately go pick up the phone and give her a call.

These HB9's and 10's make you jump through so many damn hoops. I mean a fun date Saturday most women would be locked in, but with these here comes the sh!t tests... oh lawdy.

I'll just wait longer and see what else she throws at me to grab my attention.

 

[Tenzen]

the faster you stop thinking about everything this girl does she'll return into your life, just ignore it these petty comments. Right before you walk into a bar tell yourself your not going to talk to any women, your taking a break.... what happens? girls start talking to you.

 

[Igetit!]

... I just don't know what to do. I still like her, and I want to go after her.

My goodness. Man,how can you be so hung up on just one girl? If the two of you had been dating for a while in a relationship,then all of the sudden she dumped you,then ok,I could see why you'd be behaving this way. You haven't even been out on a single date with this girl yet. Not one. And no,I'm not counting when the two of you spent five hours walking together downtown. I'm talking about a "date" date. One where both people involved know it's a romantic date. In other words,a date like the one she went on with the guy she supposed didn't like.

But do I even have a chance now?

NO!!! You never had a chance with her. Well,let me correct that:You did have a chance with her,but you taking too long to show your interest in her doomed you to the friendzone. Look man,it's over a month later,and you STILL haven't been upfront with her. You remeber the guy she went out on a date with,the one she said she didn't like? Well maybe she didn't like him,but at least she doesn't have to wonder about his intentions. She knows he's a man. She knows he's confident and goes for what he wants. I mean,the girl rejected him three times,and he didn't let it phase him. She knows he's confident. Can she say the same thing about you?

But by her commenting on my photos, does that mean anything?

Does her commenting on your pictures mean anything? Yes,yes it does mean something. It means she likes your pictures. What? Did you think it meant she wanted to date you or something? LOL.

I mean is she trying to get my attention by doing this? Or is a non-issue?

Master Disaster,your mind is playing tricks on you. You're misinterpeting every little thing she does to mean that somehow she's interested in you because that's what you want. Why would she be trying to get your attention by commenting on your pictures? If she wanted your attention,she'd just return your phone call,right? This is crazy. You're hung up on this girl who's going on with her life and dating other guys.
I don't know how long you plan on doing this,but hey,it's your life.

 

[CFERD]

Wow, if everyone who didn't get one phone call returned by a girl just said next, half of us probably wouldn't be alive.Your not moving on, cause your thinking how ignoring her will give you a chance whith her when school starts back up. Your still acting like a pvssy. STOP! Either completely give up on this girl now, or call her up and ask her out. Get a yes or a no. Your mind has you in stuck in limbo. Your hoping to get her by being passive and waiting for signs that she's looking for your attention. For all you know she sees your pouting because you haven't contacted her because she didn't return your call. Maybe she's thinking your too sensitive. From the posts I've read, the common advice is to give a girl two chances. Did her not returning your call completely change your mind about how she was responding to you so favorably. Or did your ego take a hit. Quit the ignoring her crap. I think they call it gangji game, it's pointless. Go after what you want. Wouldn't it be better to make your intentions known,you may get a date, or possibly rejection, but at least you'll have the knowledge that you had the balls to find out. What's the worst thing that can happen? You ruin your chance when school starts up again. Screw that, by then you could either be dating her or know that it's not going to happen and you can move on. You should be talking to other women, tying to meet some regadless. But I think you need to find the balls you were lacking when you started crushing on this girl and make a fvcking move. Like the other poster said, without thinking about it. All the advice about ignoring her only to try later is enabling your wussiness. I reccommend going for it because you never did when you should have. No more bullsh*t. Frickin ambience, pasionate kisses, putty in your hands. It's all crap. Take a risk, put it out there. Fear of rejection got you to this point IMO. If your instincts were telling you she was waiting for you to make a move, she may very well have been. Go for it. Leave a voice mail if she doesn't pick up. If she doesn't return your call then you know for sure. My guess is she'll more than likely pick up. Yeah I know I'll get flamed for this advice..Flame on...:cheer: I think Disaster has a chance.

 

[cordoncordon]

I cannot believe you next'd a girl because she did not return one phone call that you didnt even leave a message.

Call her up and ask her out. Act like nothing is wrong. Its not rocket surgery.

 

[Igetit!]

I cannot believe you next'd a girl because she did not return one phone call that you didnt even leave a message.

Cordoncordon,I believe you have a misunderstanding of the situation here. He didn't next the girl because of the nonreturned phonecall. In fact,he hasn't even nexted her at all. I know that you don't have 10,12 hours to read through the entire thread to get a better understanding of what's going on,but the jist of it is that Master Disaster,after three to four months of knowing this girl has yet to ask her out on a offical date. Some guys tell him to move on,others tell him to continue after her. My opinion is the he is paralyzed with the fear of rejection,which just makes things worse because the more time that passes by,the less chance he'll ever have of dating her.

Call her up and ask her out. Its not rocket surgery.

Rocket surgery? Operating on rockets? O...K. That's a new one.
Never heard that before.