Trayvon Martin

[Jaylan]

They are calling him in order to discredit him. Makes sense to do so.

All that being said, lets not forget the other witnesses who contradict Zimmerman, especially the Latina who testified in Spanish that Zimmerman was on top.

 

[Aristippus]

I can't believe most people aren't seeing through this. The media has an agenda and I believe there are people in positions of power that are fueling this agenda. Basically, this was nothing more than a case of 2 people who handled a situation very badly and caused it to escalate into a violent situation un-necessarily. Nothing more, nothing less.

Two people who didn't deal with the situation intelligently to prevent it from turning violent. The media endlessly shows pictures of an 11 year old kid instead of a 17 year old for psychological effect and the masses are stupid enough to buy it, even though they know the kids age was 17.

This is to paint the picture of a helpless victim and to manufacture outrage. Was the situation bad? Yes. Do I think either party was innocent? No. I think it was a situation of two hotheads who tried to play "tough guy" and this was the end result. One of them paid with his life and the other will lose his freedom. There are people with multiple agendas pulling the strings here. If you manufacture outrage, you can not only divide the people but you can also distract them from other things you don't want them to know about.

One newscaster said now they may be investigating this as a hate crime. This is all smoke and mirrors to divide the people against each other and distract them from putting their attention on what is going on behind the backs of the public, behind closed doors. People with less than honorable intentions want to keep you distracted and divided. In the end, it was two people who poured gasoline on a small fire instead of pouring water on it. Don't fall for the bait and think for yourselves. Have your own goals in life and don't play into a storyline where the facts are obviously being twisted via the mainstream media.

 

[Hustlaz Ambition]

^^^

I agree people are being shucked and jived for ratings. Sean Hannity interviewing Zimmerman gave it away.

 

[Johnny_Kage]

They are calling him in order to discredit him. Makes sense to do so.

All that being said, lets not forget the other witnesses who contradict Zimmerman, especially the Latina who testified in Spanish that Zimmerman was on top.

He took a drug dealer off the streets. I don't see how he did anything wrong.

Hopefully, he gets off.

 

[Jaylan]

He took a drug dealer off the streets. I don't see how he did anything wrong.

Hopefully, he gets off.

Drug dealer? Based on what facts? I guess every suburban kid who smokes pot should be taken off the street too huh?

Id rather have pot smoking 17 year olds roaming the streets instead of wannabe vigilante cops thinking they are toughing and jumping into situations because a gun gave them courage.

 

[Johnny_Kage]

Drug dealer? Based on what facts? I guess every suburban kid who smokes pot should be taken off the street too huh?

Id rather have pot smoking 17 year olds roaming the streets instead of wannabe vigilante cops thinking they are toughing and jumping into situations because a gun gave them courage.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html

Trayvon Martin was a thug. The world is not worse off without him.

 

[Hustlaz Ambition]

The problem is, at this point the media is what drove it to trial. And a second life hangs in the balance as a result. What happened was a tragedy, but when the potential race-war loomed, the MSM could not stand to let it pass and then the black icons began beating the war drums.

I only care who threw the first punch. That person is without doubt guilty. Anything else is just a sham by the media and the people who want to lynch a guy without any evidence yet.

The sad thing Zimmerman is not even a racist. He has a black grandfather, he has black in-laws in his family. Blacks in the neighborhood are defending Zimmerman also. The only evidence found of Zimmerman being "racist" was on his old Myspace page. But the comments were only about Mexicans. So, since that doesn't fit the agenda of making Zimmerman out to be this wild KKK vigilante the media never spoke on that.

One of the police officers tried to save Trayvon's life through CPR. The policeman whi tried to cover this up was just one dude who knew Zimmermans father.(He is a retired judge so he has politcal pull). The rest of the Sanford PD tried to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter. The media just needs to take their loss and admit they jumped to conclusions.

 

[FairShake]

Ironically...Trayvon Martin MIGHT have been in the middle of committing an anti-gay hate crime when he was shot. Assuming you believe he was the one who attacked Zimmerman (and the more I find out about Martin the more I think he was a guy who really liked to fight) and knowing that just before the altercation he called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker" makes me wonder was he just trying to beat up a gay white man who he thought was going to try to talk to him...or worse.

In young hood lingo a man who calls another man "creepy" usually means he thinks the other man is gay. Being that a lot of hood black kids think ALL or MOST white people are gay I can only guess this MAY have been on his mind. Just food for thought...

 

[crazyboy]

Ironically...Trayvon Martin MIGHT have been in the middle of committing an anti-gay hate crime when he was shot. Assuming you believe he was the one who attacked Zimmerman (and the more I find out about Martin the more I think he was a guy who really liked to fight) and knowing that just before the altercation he called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker" makes me wonder was he just trying to beat up a gay white man who he thought was going to try to talk to him...or worse.

In young hood lingo a man who calls another man "creepy" usually means he thinks the other man is gay. Being that a lot of hood black kids think ALL or MOST white people are gay I can only guess this MAY have been on his mind. Just food for thought...

No it doesn't, it means there creepy. trust me the black population has no problem calling no one gay. some our favorite fag azz ni88a or gay azz ni88a and my favorite butt monkey or ohh b!tch azz ni88a ok that mean several things so you get the point. please don't take out of content. simple if zimmeran stay his happy behind in the car waited for the police. he would never been a position shoot him. but no he engage him so okay lets say trayvon was on top him if zimmerman didnt identified himself as someone of authority because even the police identify themselves as police before doing anything then what zimmerman was doing was stalking and he was profling in which he not train to do. in which if some creepy azz person was following then yes i might fight him.

So if some stranger was following you and never identified himself to you. how would you react. see the problem is he went toward trayvon, trayvon never was going toward him and then trayvon react like most people ask why are you following me. Then proceed to fight him in which zimmerman now scared was force to shoot either way if trayvon had live it would been assualt on trayvon but he didn't so its murder 2 on zimmerman. he was force to stand his ground do to his own idoitic action of engaging. if you are engaging your not standing ground.

ps that ***** is retard somebody get her off the stand jesus christ

 

[PlayHer Man]

I can't believe most people aren't seeing through this. The media has an agenda and I believe there are people in positions of power that are fueling this agenda. Basically, this was nothing more than a case of 2 people who handled a situation very badly and caused it to escalate into a violent situation un-necessarily. Nothing more, nothing less.

Two people who didn't deal with the situation intelligently to prevent it from turning violent. The media endlessly shows pictures of an 11 year old kid instead of a 17 year old for psychological effect and the masses are stupid enough to buy it, even though they know the kids age was 17.

This is to paint the picture of a helpless victim and to manufacture outrage. Was the situation bad? Yes. Do I think either party was innocent? No. I think it was a situation of two hotheads who tried to play "tough guy" and this was the end result. One of them paid with his life and the other will lose his freedom. There are people with multiple agendas pulling the strings here. If you manufacture outrage, you can not only divide the people but you can also distract them from other things you don't want them to know about.

One newscaster said now they may be investigating this as a hate crime. This is all smoke and mirrors to divide the people against each other and distract them from putting their attention on what is going on behind the backs of the public, behind closed doors. People with less than honorable intentions want to keep you distracted and divided. In the end, it was two people who poured gasoline on a small fire instead of pouring water on it. Don't fall for the bait and think for yourselves. Have your own goals in life and don't play into a storyline where the facts are obviously being twisted via the mainstream media.

THIS.

Listening to the idiot media makes you an idiot.

Also.. murders happen in the U.S. on a daily basis. Yes --> Daily basis.

Murders just like this one. All the time. All day every day. So why no media coverage? Hmm... probably because its:

-White on white
-Black on black
-Hispanic on Hispanic
-Man on man
-Gay on gay
-Christian on Christian
-Woman on woman
-Teen on Teen

:yes:

When one racial, cultural, religious or gender group attacks another.. THAT'S WHEN ITS NEWS. People are always defined by their "group".

 

[Mike32ct]

THIS.

Listening to the idiot media makes you an idiot.

Also.. murders happen in the U.S. on a daily basis. Yes --> Daily basis.

Murders just like this one. All the time. All day every day. So why no media coverage? Hmm... probably because its:

-White on white
-Black on black
-Hispanic on Hispanic
-Man on man
-Gay on gay
-Christian on Christian
-Woman on woman
-Teen on Teen

:yes:

When one racial, cultural, religious or gender group attacks another.. THAT'S WHEN ITS NEWS. People are always defined by their "group".

Very true.

 

[speed dawg]

When it is white on black, then it received enormous coverage. When it is black on white, it is brushed under the carpet. In many cases, the media goes out of it's way to avoid mentioning race.

Yep.

It's already rare enough to find white people who commit violent crimes against black people. So when they do, they really play it up. Blacks committing crimes against whites is just so commonplace now that most cops will tell you to shoot and they'll clean up the mess.

 

[Jaylan]

Interesting new developments in the trial today.

When referring to the "Help" screams heard before Trayvon was shot, Zimmerman said "that doesn't even sound like me" in an interview tape. The jury will find that very interesting.

 

[Jaylan]

I want to hear what the medical examiner has to say about TM sitting up saying "you got me" after being shot in the heart by a hollow point bullet. Does GZ think we are stupid? Getting shot through the heart doesnt give someone much ability to change their stance and start speaking.

 

[Justin Time]

But he does say he screamed for help. Often when I hear myself on the phone I am shocked to hear that is me speaking. It's funny how we all sound different then how we hear ourselves.


One note on the case....

According to Rachel and George, Trayvon first asked "Why are you following me for?", so it was definitely Trayvon who confronted George.

Oh boy, time to put this puppy to rest. I read all the comments on this thread, so lets shed some light. I'm an objective observer...and I'll dish out the proof in a second.

1) Gangsters and gangster wannabe's are truly a thorn in society. Something needs to be done about rampant gang activity and meaningless crimes that occur every day in our society

2) I'm not sure how many people are aware of the fact that Caribbean blacks and American blacks..are VASTLY different. Being of caribbean descent, I do not side with any race...if anything, people will say I'm more inclined to side with caucasians instead of blacks.

3) I'll admit that I myself am disappointed with a LOT of American black people and how they act. This happens in the caribbean as well, however, but I believe it to be a problem with a high per capita population. Crime in the years when cities were dominated by whites..was just as prevalent.

4) If I was trayvon Martin's age and living in his neighborhood, we most likely wouldn't get along. I'm 99% sure of this. I've never smoked and I cannot stand people who don't enunciate their words properly or lacked the ability to type a word while simultaneously spelling it correctly.

Now, the FACTS of the case are as follows:

-GZ called the police to report suspicious activity
-Police took information to follow up on the call
-GZ pursued the suspect...that's fine...
-GZ complains that these punks always get away..ok he seems a little determined here, that he's not in any state of mind to wait on the police to do their job. He feels very confident. We can only speculate why, as Zimmerman is not a macho fighter.
-The dispatch asked if GZ was following Trayvon, he says yes
-Dispatch said "We don't need you to do that" (This is very good advice!)
-GZ ignored the dispatch (we saw this coming in the foreshadowing in pt. 4) and continued pursuing trayvon.
-Meanwhile, Trayvon on the phone with this illiterate wh*re and complaining that GZ is following him. I don't know about you guys..but that's creepy as f*ck. Fairshake gave a credible idea that Trayvon may be in the middle of committing an anti-gay hate crime, limited to assault... This guy's hormones were probably out of control especially with the fight or flight situation that showed itself next.
-Trayvon decides he will not run anymore like a scared *****cat and will stand his ground.
-GZ caught up with Trayvon and then what happened next is anyone's guess.
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Trayvon asked Zimmerman why was he following him.
Zimmerman I'm sure didn't back down as we can see from his prior actions he was determined to get into a confrontation. (You don't chase someone unless you want a confrontation. You don't carry a loaded gun unless you have prior intentions of using it. ) He might not have been looking to use it on Trayvon, but with those bullets in it, He thought about this before. He was going to get one of those house-robbing thieves before they get a chance to steal something...however, like a virgin, his climax was premature.

A physical altercation ensued, screams were heard and the guy that was being followed got shot and died...

The short story is that there needs to be a trial. You cannot take the killers' word for it...that' s just preposterous.

Danger...Do you feel that Israel should have the heII bombed out of them since they bombed Syria?

fuko- Jaylan called you on your bias. It was pretty obvious. You couldn't even spell his user tag correctly out of respect.

Speedy dawg also has a racial bias. I'm not sure if any of you guys are racists..doesn't seem like it, but there is racial bias.

That said. People die everyday, and honestly, I don't get worked up over dying. we all die sometime. For all we know, dying/dying young might be a good thing. Dying a victim of someone's hatred might be a good thing. We don't know. All we know is the will to survive.

I wouldn't pick a fight with any of you, but what's right is what's right. There were no cameras to pick up what happened between the two, but there will come a time when that will not be so (Just like the days before DNA). I do know however, that using a gun to kill someone unarmed in a fight makes you look like a a coward. You only get away with that if you have a vagina between your legs.

 

[speed dawg]

Speedy dawg also has a racial bias. I'm not sure if any of you guys are racists..doesn't seem like it, but there is racial bias.

Absolutely no doubt about this. None. I acknowledge the fundamental difference in the races. It's all behavior. Obviously there are some guys who move across racial lines for social reasons or whatever, and that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here, bury my head in the sand, and say that the average white guy is the exact same as the average black guy, except for the color of his skin. That's as ignorant as it gets.

Back to George Zimmerman, I think they guy is about to walk. The prosecution has nothing, and has become a joke. People got played by the media. At the end of the day, the streets of Miami are one thug cleaner, no matter what happens to fat boy.

 

[PlayHer Man]

I agree but I don't.

When it is white on black, then it received enormous coverage. When it is black on white, it is brushed under the carpet. In many cases, the media goes out of it's way to avoid mentioning race.

The media goes by ratings.. that's what makes moolah for them. Blacks attacking whites doesn't get high ratings. However:

Whites attacking:

-Gays
-Blacks
-Jews
-Hispanics
-Asians
-Muslims

OR

Men attacking:

-Women
-Children

Boosts ratings. People soak it all up. "Hate crimes" catch eyeballs.

Since men/whites are viewed as being at the TOP of society (or the most advantagious / privilaged group in society).. no one ever sees them as real "victims" unless its out of control like Jodi Arias. So people shrug in most cases. No ratings.

When a pretty white chick disappears is all over the news. When ANYONE ELSE does.. media coverage is limited.

 

[FairShake]

No it doesn't, it means there creepy.

In this case it did. Rachel Jentel said it meant "pervert" in her own words.

Been called "cracker" more times than I can count. Never been called "creepy" but have heard it more times than I can count. Put the two together and the kids are almost always talking about older gay white men that are (or thought to be) cruising for young black boys.

Plus there is the alliteration that "creepy ass cracka" has that some of your other insults don't.

 

[Jaylan]

Some people seem to be missing the fact that Martin called Zimmerman a cracka AND a nigga. In which case he was just using both terms as a descriptor of "some guy". Some folks out there are latching onto the white slur, but ignoring the black slur. In any case, a lot of young folks speak like that. Id say the language would be more damning if Martin didnt use the N word right after saying cracka.

Anyways, todays testimonies give the jury a lot to think about, and seems to help the prosecution.

Zimmermans idiot best friend, Osterman, decided it was a good idea to publish a book only 4 months after Martin was killed. A book which contains quotes from Zimmerman that differ from what he told police. Also, Dr. Rao, the chief medical examiner, was all but outright telling O'Mara that Zimmerman's accounts werent true.

She did not agree with how they said he obtained his injuries, nor did she consider them in any way severe.

Also, this idea that Martin thought Zimmerman was some gay dude on patrol is idiotic. Black folks dont call gay people creepy. If we wanna outright call someone gay, we call them gay, homo, on the down low, fruity, fag, suspect, etc.

Its funny how people wanna consider Jentel credible with one thing she says, but not credible regarding something else. Basically picking and choosing testimony that fits their already made-up mind. Plus, if Martin thinking Zimmerman was gay was AT ALL a possibility, the defense would have used it long ago.

Yall are reaching for the stars it seems now.

If you watched today, you gotta wonder how jurors will feel about Dr. Rao and Osterman.

 

[Jaylan]

Guilty of murder? No. Guilty of manslaughter due to negligence? Easily because of the medical examiner testimony so far, and the detective saying Zimmermans actions and story Martin were odd and didnt seem to add up. Zimmerman created the situation with his actions and the gun, and the prosecution can easily get this jury to see that and convict on manslaughter.