Tired Of Not Having Any Beautiful women In My Life (besides my mom and sister)

[Manure Spherian]

When that's true, your options are...

1. Approaching strangers in real life
2. Using swipe apps
3. Sending DMs on Instagram and other social media platforms

I doubt you'd make a great impression in DMs on any social media platform. Competition on swipe apps is fierce.

All true. This is why I recommend men get socially adjusted early! While I don’t think thirteen-year olds should have sex, I’m talking that early for socialization with the opposite sex these days. Being we aren’t living pre-sexual revolution, those who win in the sexual market, win early, and win big. Of course things can be reversed, but it will be far more difficult for men who start late and are consequentially out of touch. I believe many middle-aged red-pill madmen have perma-rage because of this, and put overemphasis on improvement. Improvement is necessary but one doesn’t have to become a bionic man-robot as the RP crowd espouses.

 

[Manure Spherian]

gangsta rappers who call women "b*tches" and "hoes" all day are likely getting more action than anybody on this thread

They can get away with this because of several qualities you and most here lack! I don’t want to insult you, but your statements indicate you are not worldly, socially out of touch, and naive.

Such men you speak of are former or current gang members and/or criminals, extremely high status, are or were violent, socially connected since childhood, and screwing women since thirteen years old!

A clue, get one!

 

[ocho_da_musician]

Dude, with all the sorts of modern fits out there, this square design of shirt should be tossed, especially considering it’s too big on you and you are slim.

would you say that it could work better if it was more tailored to my size? i thought a button-down white dress shirt was a classic option, i mean it's a fundamental part of a suit

 

[ocho_da_musician]

True.

You are only 35 miles from Philadelphia. Philadelphia is superior to Wilmington. I have heard that Philadelphia women are not that impressive on looks compared to a lot of other big cities.



This is generally true. It is inefficient when it is effective. The only thing that keeps approaching strangers in real life alive as an option is that the swipe apps are worse and Instagram game isn't going to be applicable for most men.



When that's true, your options are...

1. Approaching strangers in real life
2. Using swipe apps
3. Sending DMs on Instagram and other social media platforms

I doubt you'd make a great impression in DMs on any social media platform. Competition on swipe apps is fierce.



That's a sign your game is weak. I heard that excuse more in the 2000s earlier in my seduction journey. I haven't heard that excuse much from 2010-present. I thought the IHAB (I have a boyfriend) excuse was dead until I saw this approach video from 2021 with an approach beginner getting blown out in outdoor daygame approaches.

There's a chance that is true. Get the evaluation on it. Being on the autism spectrum makes getting laid far more difficult.

why do you think i wouldn't make a good impression on social media

 

[ocho_da_musician]

They can get away with this because of several qualities you and most here lack! I don’t want to insult you, but your statements indicate you are not worldly, socially out of touch, and naive.

Such men you speak of are former or current gang members and/or criminals, extremely high status, are or were violent, socially connected since childhood, and screwing women since thirteen years old!

A clue, get one!

I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that I'm naive, you don't me personally, do you?

 

[Manure Spherian]

would you say that it could work better if it was more tailored to my size? i thought a button-down white dress shirt was a classic option, i mean it's a fundamental part of a suit

Yes, or if not tailored, a slim, stretchy fit.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that I'm naive, you don't me personally, do you?

You referred to gangster rappers referring to women with unsavory names in response to BE stating you look at women as such. Maybe you aren’t naive, but those with a clue know why such men get away with such talk.

If you are not naive or ignorant (neither of which are inherently bad), then I apologize. But you do seem so.

 

[SW15]

This is why I recommend men get socially adjusted early! While I don’t think thirteen-year olds should have sex, I’m talking that early for socialization with the opposite sex these days. Being we aren’t living pre-sexual revolution, those who win in the sexual market, win early, and win big.

There is value in an early start. I had some issues with this.

My 2 main issues were:

1. Multiple childhood relocations, weaking my social standing
2. Height. With height, I was not noticeably taller than females until late in my sophomore year of high school, when I was reaching the 5'7"-5'8" range. For junior high and the first 2 years of high school, I was essentially invisible to women. Combining this with some childhood relocations put me in a bad spot socially.

During the last 2 years of high school, I made some progress.

After high school, I went to college. When I arrived on the college campus, I was behind some of my peers in terms of socialization.

Of course things can be reversed, but it will be far more difficult for men who start late and are consequentially out of touch. I believe many middle-aged red-pill madmen have perma-rage because of this, and put overemphasis on improvement. Improvement is necessary but one doesn’t have to become a bionic man-robot as the RP crowd espouses.

When I was in college, I discovered the seduction community from online searching. This was the early 2000s so it was a different seduction community then. 2 of my earlier influences in seduction were Doc Love (more of a relationship oriented teacher) and David DeAngelo. I later got into Mystery, Strauss, Roosh, and Rollo.

 

[Manure Spherian]

2. Height. With height, I was not noticeably taller than females until late in my sophomore year of high school, when I was reaching the 5'7"-5'8" range. For junior high and the first 2 years of high school, I was essentially invisible to women.

All my teenage years were in the 90s and all my 20s were in the aughts. I’m not kidding: almost no one spoke about height in those days! Several womanizers and the most popular guys I grew up with were short or of average height.

 

[SW15]

All my teenage years were in the 90s and all my 20s were in the aughts. I’m not kidding: almost no one spoke about height in those days! Several womanizers and the most popular guys I grew up with were short or of average height.

Height was still a thing in the 1990s-2000s.

The ABC investigative journalism show 20/20 did a segment in the mid-1990s about short men having a tough time in dating.

I noticed a difference in the way I was treated by girls in 7th-9th grade before I really grew. Many girls were taller than I was during that time.

By the time 11th grade rolled around, I was taller than most of the girls in my class and the 9th and 10th grade girls.

I noticed a change in the way height was perceived over the course of the 2000s. I reached my adult height around age 17 in 2000. From 2000-2009 (ages 17-26 for me), my average 5'10" height wasn't that much of a limitation. I didn't feel much bias against my height in the 2000s because my average height seemed ok to women. That is somewhat of your point on height in the quote above. Around 2010 is when I started to notice a shift and that my 5'10" height started to be regarded as dog crap by more women. This is when online dating culture became more prevalent and women starting demanding 6'0"+. Anything below 6'0" started to be perceived more negatively.

I recall much invisibility in junior high and high school until late 10th grade when I started to get noticeably taller than females.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Non taken, brother. Many members here consider cartain pieces of advice as "outdated", I would like to think of it more of "the classics"....

Much of what emerged from The Manosphere in The Mid-late 10s is comparable to martial arts according to Bruce Lee and his many imitators since https://conflictresearchgroupintl.c...vs-keeping-it-real-in-the-west-marc-macyoung/ Whereas what was being discussed here at SS and the like as far back as The 2000s is the equivalent of "Classic MA", as practiced in street fights in Okinawa and Hong Kong pre-WWII... Before chop socky flicks started spreading around all sorts of juvenile ideas about the nature of combat, which in turn tainted the way MA is taught and practiced out in reality


The former makes for first rate entertainment, but will result in a fella getting his a-s handed to him if he employs it in RL, whereas the latter isn't remotely flashy, nonetheless magnifies your prospects for success 800 fold

 

[BackInTheGame78]

True.

You are only 35 miles from Philadelphia. Philadelphia is superior to Wilmington. I have heard that Philadelphia women are not that impressive on looks compared to a lot of other big cities.



This is generally true. It is inefficient when it is effective. The only thing that keeps approaching strangers in real life alive as an option is that the swipe apps are worse and Instagram game isn't going to be applicable for most men.



When that's true, your options are...

1. Approaching strangers in real life
2. Using swipe apps
3. Sending DMs on Instagram and other social media platforms

I doubt you'd make a great impression in DMs on any social media platform. Competition on swipe apps is fierce.



That's a sign your game is weak. I heard that excuse more in the 2000s earlier in my seduction journey. I haven't heard that excuse much from 2010-present. I thought the IHAB (I have a boyfriend) excuse was dead until I saw this approach video from 2021 with an approach beginner getting blown out in outdoor daygame approaches.

There's a chance that is true. Get the evaluation on it. Being on the autism spectrum makes getting laid far more difficult.

This video should be called "the power of acting normal".

It's like I always say...acting like a normal human being and being able to hold up your end of the conversation as a man is so rare these days that women are often thrilled when they simply meet someone that hits that low bar.

There was nothing super fantastic that he did in these approaches, he simply acted like a normal person and had a decent conversation and got 3 or 4 numbers which I would say 2 of them have a pretty good chance of actually going on a date with him.

 

[Vanderdonck]

would you say that it could work better if it was more tailored to my size? i thought a button-down white dress shirt was a classic option, i mean it's a fundamental part of a suit

It's classic but should be more form fitting. I endured the baggy clothes wave of the 90s and for years after I bought a size or two too big for me. Bad look. Since you're skinny you should even moreso be wearing something kinda tight.

 

[SW15]

There was nothing super fantastic that he did in these approaches, he simply acted like a normal person and had a decent conversation and got 3 or 4 numbers which I would say 2 of them have a pretty good chance of actually going on a date with him.

At the time this was recorded in 2021, the guy in the video was a beginning level approacher.

I don't think he acted like a normal person. He did not have much charisma either. There were instances he managed to have a decent conversation in a few instances so that point has validity.

He was approaching women who were wearing earbuds and also women clearly not interested.

He did the common PUA cringe technique of running up from behind women and trying to approach them.

He got 3 numbers. It was impressive that 2 of them were women wearing headphones. It's likely one of them was going to flake. I think 2 of them had a chance of showing up on a date. I don't see anything in the comments about whether any of the women actually showed up for a date with him. It's been 3.5 years since the video was posted.

For a beginning level outdoor approacher, he did well. He did get IHAB'ed multiple times and I'm almost never IHAB'ed like that. I actually thought the IHAB was dead until I saw this.

I've had approach sessions at some of the same locations go worse than this with far more daygame stranger experiences. I don't know how much video editing occurred by 3 numbers in one day is good.

One of the things I've learned is to make the date plans there in the moment. He did not make date plans in the moment. He pitched the general concept of a date and got numbers.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

I used to think that too, but from experience that's not true. I've refined a method that has me lining up one to four dates every weekend consistently with 8+. I hardly swipe at this point. But I would say I'm in the top 5-10%.

Just one caveat on this for posterity. The caliber of women from apps pales in comparison to women I meet out doing things I love. If you think about it, that's expected. The hottest and most interesting women do not need apps, and they don't want to deal with the onslaught of all of the average men on the apps.

As you get to the top of the food chain the apps are more work then they're worth. It's way better to just go out and do the things you love, do them in coed settings, and build your network organically.

 

[pipeman84]

I used to think that too, but from experience that's not true. I've refined a method that has me lining up one to four dates every weekend consistently with 8+. I hardly swipe at this point. But I would say I'm in the top 5-10%.

Just one caveat on this for posterity. The caliber of women from apps pales in comparison to women I meet out doing things I love. If you think about it, that's expected. The hottest and most interesting women do not need apps, and they don't want to deal with the onslaught of all of the average men on the apps.

As you get to the top of the food chain the apps are more work then they're worth. It's way better to just go out and do the things you love, do them in coed settings, and build your network organically.

So what is your refined method, specifically?
I think it's impossible to meet every weekend 1-4 women who are 8+ and who are not bimbos or prostitutes, more or less. The vast majority of women who are beautiful, mentally sane and smart are practically off the market by the time they finish college.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

So what is your refined method, specifically?
I think it's impossible to meet every weekend 1-4 women who are 8+ and who are not bimbos or prostitutes, more or less. The vast majority of women who are beautiful, mentally sane and smart are practically off the market by the time they finish college.

Ha I just said that shouldn't be where you find women. Their looks are 8+ but their personalities and intelligence are a crapshoot and most of them are pretty boring. All the fun exciting girls are out doing stuff, not swiping. But to answer your question, deliberate swiping on tinder, bumble, and hinge, meaning really asking if I see myself with the girl. Initially maxing out the swipes on each app every day (I will never pay for any feature) until dates are set up for the next couple weekends, then the swiping can be scaled down since there's no point unless you want to double book. I shoot an opener to every girl since there are tons that go MIA instantly. Experimenting with pics on a quarterly basis, and that's about it.

The rest is just stuff I do normally like working out, eating well, having fun hobbies, and generally doing things I enjoy. But again, I'm finding way better prospects in boarding groups, dancing circles, volunteering, and other coed extra curriculars.

I've decided I'll slowly phase out of apps as I find more and more coed networks in person. I've contemplated making a product I can market to HR or marketing people, since those departments are almost always full of dimes and it would mean continually meeting new ones. But that just seems selfish.

Anyway there's no perfect woman out there, every rose has its thorns. I'm finding the more I meet, the pickier I get, which is a symptom of experiencing the paradox of unlimited choice...

 

[New_Journey]

Any help or advice would be appreciated, thanks.

First thing I'll tell you is this, it takes years to become the man you have in your mind and to maintain it, its forever, it never ends. So if you're looking for a cheat code if I do X I'll get Y, don't, it doesn't exist and it will only cause pain.

You'll get great advice in here. Welcome to the forum.

Every day I look at pictures and videos of beautiful women and I wonder, when will it finally be my turn to get some action?

You will only get what you want in life, when you stop caring if you get it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

First thing I'll tell you is this, it takes years to become the man you have in your mind and to maintain it, its forever, it never ends. So if you're looking for a cheat code if I do X I'll get Y, don't, it doesn't exist and it will only cause pain.

You'll get great advice in here. Welcome to the forum.


You will only get what you want in life, when you stop caring if you get it.

You don't get what you want in life, you get what you earn, and by byproduct, what you deserve.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Just one caveat on this for posterity. The caliber of women from apps pales in comparison to women I meet out doing things I love. If you think about it, that's expected. The hottest and most interesting women do not need apps, and they don't want to deal with the onslaught of all of the average men on the apps.

As you get to the top of the food chain the apps are more work then they're worth. It's way better to just go out and do the things you love, do them in coed settings, and build your network organically.

Yep: More often than not, we attract what we ourselves are. That's one of many "basics" that's been buried beneath the avalanche of Manosphere mumbo jumbo that deluged our airwaves, from the mid-10s forward