TIC's Approach Journal

[TIC]

Alright I turned 21 in June, in college (semester starts soon) and discovered this site shortly after. Without going in to too much detail, I'm pretty much a shy, introverted guy who plays alot of video games. Well, my 360 just got the 3-rings of death (I've sent it back many times in the past). I'm not even going to bother with it, I want a social life starting now

Some quick stats. 5'11 156.

Alright its the last month of summer, and after reading other journals here, I've decided to hit the Barnes and Nobles and Borders in my area. I tried a club a couple weeks ago, had very little success. I see no possible way to get numbers in a club when you can't hear a thing. I mean, the ONLY time I had any success was when I grinded up behind them without even speaking.

First approach which I did yesterday up next

 

[TIC]

Approach #1, 2

Alright so I was inspired by some guy's journal here that did it at bookstores.

I began my "sarging" at a downtown cafe last thursday. There was a cute hb8.5 standing in front of me at the Borders, while waiting in line at the info desk (needed help finding a book I'm reading, "Zeitoun")

I stand behind her waiting for an opener. I say something that I can't seem to remember

Me: some friendly opener about her being in line
HB8.5: (really shy voice) Oh umm, yea
She didn't seem interested at all
HB8.5: You can go ahead of me if you want

Apparently she was there applying for a job or something, whatever, next

Now after that I pretty much sat in the cafe and read. Didn't do any approaches because of anxiety, which is usually the case. I head to a different bookstore Saturday, and still I could not find the courage to approach any of the girls in the isles. There were two cute ones in the mystery isle, I chickened out. No idea how to open a 2-set. There was a HB 7 in the isle by herself, I froze and walked past

Fast-foward to yesterday. I head back to Borders. There is a blond chick with glasses sitting on the floor reading. I stand a few feet away, working up the courage to go over and say something. The wheels turn in my head, and I come up with a opener on the spot. I walk over

TIC: Excuse me, what is that your reading?
HB 7: (Startled look on her face. I also notice that she is most likely underage)
Oh so and so book
TIC: The reason I ask is because it must be a great book if you would sit on the open floor and just start reading
HB7: Oh, I always do that when i read a new book
TIC: I see, so what's it about?
HB7: well.....(she goes on for about 2 minutes on what the book is about. I can tell by her body language that she isn't interested, but she's not legal anyway.)
TIC: Alright, well thanks for letting me know. (I walk off)

Couldnt find any cajones to do any more approaching that night. Left dissapointed but at least I did an approach. I wonder if my looks are the problem sometimes..will update soon

 

[TIC]

K, earlier in the day I go back to the bookstore in a small downtown area. I walk around on the sidewalk for a while, see no good openings. I go get a coffee at a sxbux, nothing. I sit down in the sxbux for a while reading a book.

Later I head to the bookstore (brns and nobles). Basically, I wimp out. I mean to be honest, the only girl there that was by herself appeared clearly to be in high school, way to young. I saw nothign else

On the drive home and right now I'm just really low on confidence. This approaching thing has to be the hardest thing I've ever had to do. Calculus was tough, but I got through it. College is tough, but I'm getting through. Approaching strangers in front of abunch of other strangers is simply WAY out of my confort zone, it seems I can only do it in certain situations which do not arise very often....I won't give up, but I see 0 progress so far.

And it is just so goddam easy to get bitter towards women..I mean, right now, it just seems that the burden is 100% on men to do EVERYTHING. And the women don't need to approach or take on any responsibility, because they've got 10-20 guys lined up at all times. Texting them, facebooking them, offering them free dinners, free concert tickets, special favors to get sweet easy jobs, etc. I'm competing with so much and I'm not even comfortable with talking to them at this point. CHRIST

 

[TIC]

Alright, been a while. Yesterday I hit the club with a high school friend and two other guys I didn't know.

I went wearing this:

http://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/detail/4754?blank_ids=&category=1&color_category=2&sort=

white shorts and white sneakers with it


On the car ride there I was nervous as hell because the guys I didn't know in the back seat were acting all outgoing and **** the whole car ride. So, when we stopped at a liquor store I bought a bottle of E and J and chugged it down on the car ride to the club. We parked and stood outside the club for a while but it was too early so we went back to the car to wait. I drank another half a bottle of E&J, now I was silly and dizzy

Go into the club and scope it out. Can't hear **** as usually. Just like last time, the only thing that worked was grinding up on random chicks. Over the course of the night, I danced with about 6 or 7 chicks.

There was one hb9 blonde that everyone wanted I could tell. I eyeballed her for a while. She was in the front toward the stage.

Anyway, first I danced with a cute hb7. She danced with me longer than any of the girls. Here's how that went:

Me: come here dance (something like that)
HB7: I don't have any thighs
Me: I'm not shallow now dance (shouting in her ear as it was hard to hear anything)

She dances with me for a few songs, mostly grinding. she turned away like she was done but I pulled her toward me when she tried. We keep dancing and all of a sudden, SOME PRICK FROM THE SECOND FLOOR THREW A WHOLE CUP OF LIQUOR ON THE CROWD, HITTING ME IN THE BACK. I thought nothing of it because I wanted to stay positive (something that I am trying to do more of). I had been dancing with alot of chicks that night and I could tell some of the guys were getting jealous, as most of them stand and watch the whole time.

So after more dancing with HB7 her POS friend started ****blocking and tellign her they had to go.

Me: your cute let me get your number
HB7: I have to go. then she said something i couldn't make out

Then, she started to feel my pockets on my shorts, and right then I knew she wanted my phone. I pull it out and she programs herself into my phone. She and her friends leave.

So right then, I was a little more calm and less tense knowing I had got at least some success. It was close to closing, and I saw the hot blonde dancing with her friend. This chick was smoking hot with a body you would lick tequila off of. All the guys were standing around her to scared to dance. I say fuk it and start dancing with her. We dance for a couple songs and the lights go on (fukkkkkkk) and she says I think its over.

Me: Listen I've gotta go but can I get your number
HB9: I don't give out my number to people I don't know
Me: Alright have a nice night (i walk off)

So overall another bad outing, but for me at least, 1 number is something. I'm planning on shooting her this exact text tomorrow, which will follow the 2 day rule: Hey hb7 this is TIC from club vision, whtsup?

I wonder if a call would be better, but who knows

We are heading BACK to another club tomorrow, suppose to be a better one. Will update

Oh, and school starts tuesday. i have alot to work on socially this year, including with guys. I've noticed that I need to work on making friends, not just hit on girls. I need to network and become somewhat popular.

 

[TIC]

Alright, last night was Sunday and me and 1 friend went to the club. This is the Sunday before Labor day, so the club was PACKED after like 11:30

There wasn't much conversation or gaming going on by me, too many people too loud of music. I basically did have success on the dance floor though. I probably danced with 13-15 different girls while most guys were standing there watching like chumps. About 4 of these girls showed CLEAR interest in me. They danced with me for 3 or more songs and were doing things like grabbing my head from behind while I grinded. What frustrates me is that I was getting majorly c-blocked ALL NIGHT. Their friends saw me dancing with their friend and literally pulled them away from me after a while

One chick danced real freaky with me and her friends took her to the bar. I follow and ask for her number (she was like a 8 blonde) she says "your cute" but wouldn't give me the digits. What else was she looking for. I have no clue.

There was one HB6 that liked me the most, she danced then grabbed my hand and led me to the wall where she posted the fuk out of me. Her stupid ugly friend was jealous as hell, I could tell. She wouldn't stop looking over and eventually broke us up. I follow them off the dance floor

Me: Why did you stop girl?
HB6: We are gonna be back don't worry
her Friend says somethign I can't quite make out. Its so goddam loud.
Me: (walk away)

Later in the club, right before I left, I was able to find this hb6 and get her number. Its really disappointing to get so much interest from girls and only come out with 1 number. I feel robbed of at least 3 numbers by c-blocking friends.

Its like, even if you win the battle and are good enough for these chicks, something else comes in the way. This **** is HARD. Not as hard as day game at the bookstore, but to get anything beyond dancing is just rough. 65% of guys are too scared to move in there and the rest have mild success. No one is making out or hooking up from what I can tell. Its just a sausage fest because the chicks want to be attention *****s and dance on stage instead of with guys.

They mess up the dating pool by going to these clubs with the intention of turning down every guy that comes their way.

I also learned that its no use in dancing with a girl if she has a group of 3 or more friends. Her friends will either c-block you or she will move away

The ONLY and I mean ONLY thing that works is to grind up on a chick without saying a word.

We are going back tot he club this Friday probably, unless theres some college party. My college schedule gives me fridays off this semester. Class strts tommorrow. Time for me to be more open and social, will try to update with progress

 

[TIC]

A quick update. The girl from friday (S) did not return my text "hey this is tic from club v"

I sent it yesterday, 2 days after she gave it to me

This last number i got (a hb6 but she danced super freaky) I actually sent her a text right after we left the club and driving home, something like "alright this is tic from club t heres my num". No response there

So, I will give them both 1 call this thursday. Thats a text and a call each. If they don't respond, they are out of my phone for good. I think I gave them enough hand already. This crap I'll never understand. Why give out your number if you won't respond. I mean, just say "no" its not even worth the trouble. Unbelievable these women. You do good enough to get their digits and they don't even bother to respond. This is why I need more plates spinning I guess

so yea thursday they each get a call and friday im heading back to the club probably.

 

[TIC]

Just got back from first day of classes. Chickened out on campus far too much today but I know what I'm gonna open with tomorrow. Met a few friends and have classes with them.

There was one girl hb6 that I introduced myself to while we were waiting for the professor to set up. We were sitting down and she sits right in front of me

Me: Hi I'm brandon and you are?
hb6: im blah (I shake her hand)
Me: nice to meet you
Me: so you were in the class earlier weren't you?
her:yea
Me: what side were you on?
her: left
me: cool nice meeting you

I didn't see adequete interest for me to escalate things any further. We continued with small talk later in the class. Its funny how even fat out of shape chicks feel they are superior and have tons of options, even though I look much better than she does. She should have been thanking christ I was even talking to her. I will talk to her some more in the future on thursday class

Tomorrow or thurs I will do cold approaches to all the random chicks I see sitting outside reading or what-not. I will not chicken out like today

 

[TIC]

Alright, today in my night class I introduced myself to some muslim hb4. We made small talk. I caught a hb8 eyeying me and maybe some other girls in the room, but they sat too far away and they all rush out the room when class is over.

I was invited to an icebreaker by a friend. Will certainly go, even if its solo

I've been wondering about my look. Here's a pic

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e279/Prevlnt/mebathblueshirt.jpg

should I be growing my hair out or let a thick mustache come out? I'm not entirely sure where I stand in the looks department.

But anyway, so far looks like I'll be heading to the club this friday and possibly some icebreaker thing in the coming days. Will be back with updates

 

[Matt281]

65% of guys are too scared to move in there and the rest have mild success.

Closer to 99%. Most guys stay home, most who go out stand around with their friends. Congrats man, you're doing more than 99% of people, and 95% of people in this game.

Keep in mind that this is exponentially harder to get really good at than people think, that's why most people drop out. Don't get discouraged if it takes you a long time to see results.

You're on the right path, and you'll get there if you keep it up. Two quick things though:

1. Everyone has terrible nights and gets really frustrated. Try not to take it out on women or worse, yourself though. As a man, you have the option to be as good at this as you want. That's an awesome state of affairs. Women, unless they're gorgeous, settle for the best thing that comes along.

2. Don't downplay what's possible in a club. If a girl likes you, you can often pull her home that night. If you danced with a dozen girls like you said, chances are at least one was down.

Hope it helps, keep it up man!

-PS, you look fine. It has almost nothing to do with the results you're getting.

 

[DjLarrySmooth]

Wow i read this and its really uplifting. I can relate to you bro, It can be so hard to approach women at times, you know just have to find that confidence.



But man your doing a great job, keep it up.

 

[YoungSir4sho]

Keep it up fam.. U not from NYC also r u?? N keep us all updated.. Continue on da daygame also but do direct game.. Dats wat I'm doin now also..

 

[TIC]

@youngsir I'm from Michigan. And thanks for the advice matt and larry.

*a little note on my logistics. I commute to school. Its 20 mins away. I live at home. Have my own jeep though

Alright just got back from my last class of the day. In my first morning class, a HB8, who I could of swore was eyeballing me from previous days, came and sat right next to me. There are 3 seats to each table, she chose the one right next to me. Then, she started a conversation with me. This HB8 had NICE TITS, was super thin, brown hair, and a very cute face. Maybe a 9, but I try to have high standards. Did I mention nice tits? Her body is very small so its like, they stick out far and are big and round.

HB8: There aren't that many people here today like before, they must of dropped the class
Me: I don't know why, its not like this class is intimidating or something
HB8:Have you ever had this professor before?
Me: No, how is she?
HB8: She's pretty tough
Me: (Looking away toward my bag on the floor beside my chair) Guess I'm in for it then
HB8: (a little giggle)

Right after that, class started.

I had the very next class with her as well, but we don't sit next to each other in that class. I swear I see a few girls looking at me during class. Anyway, this HB8 jetted out of class after it was over, she seemed bored as hell. I should have done more. Its just, I am NOT use to getting female attention in which I don't have to initiate anything. I will try much harder to game her next Tuesday. I know you have to come off as sexual immediately or she will be quick to put me in the friend zone or worse. Christ day game is hard hard hard there are SO MANY barriers and walls to get over. I won't give up though

after that my friend gave me the details on that icebreaker. Turns out, its a huge party/club kind of thing at a big theatre. Its for ALL college students, not just mine. This is good because honestly I don't think I'm ready for the house parties. I feel more comfortable in dark nightclubs. That's where I have success. This thing is Saturday, and I'm going (probably will see if some other people will join me, but if not, I'll fly solo)

Now I'm heading to a job interview. Will update more tomorrow.

 

[TIC]

Well well well, looks like I got the job. It's at a Cosi. After being laid off from starucks last feburary, i've been searching for some steady money ever since. This Cosi needed someone with Barista experience, and I fit the bill This kills about 20 birds with one stone for me. No more asking parents for gas money, I can go to more clubs, buy liquor, get Madden and halo reach, play more poker. My kind of thing. Plus, I can now buy more clothes and stuff. Haven't been able to shop in a long while

Interestingly enough, it appears I am the ONLY male there. That's right, its a fish market. Mostly fat and obese girls there. I saw one hb7 getting off her shift as I was walking in for the interview. The girls on shift were fat. The manager who interviewed me was actually a pretty decent milf. early 40's or late 30's. Brunnette, thin. But she looks either bat sh!t crazy or just a plain mean b!tch. She didn't smile once through the whole interview. But I would hit it of course.

I will start keno'ing and flirting right out the gate when I start. Can't wait to see what I can get my hands on in there

 

[yuppaz]

I know what your problem is with some of these girls. You've got too much swagger / look too good for the fugo's. Leave the fugo girls for the average guys. The hotter ones will be much more receptive to you. Just talk to them about anything you want and DO NOT TRYYYYYYY (for a reaction, to get them to like you etc)...just have fun. Just gave you a giant leap towards your goals....That'll be $10,000...haha...... keep getting out there. 8's or possible 9's don't approach you unless you have something going for you...it just doesn't happen. You scare the **** out of the ugo's because they know you are too good for them, GO FOR HOTTER GIRLS THAT YOU REALLY WANNA F*CK

 

[TIC]

Another update,, some stuff just happened 20 mins ago at the store. But first, a few hours ago I gave the girl from the club HB7 a call (my first number). She did not pick up, I left a message. That's 1 text I gave her and 1 call. Her number is deleted if she doesn't return it in a day or so.

The second number I got from the freaky dancing HB6 I've decided not to call. Not to sound shallow, but its simply embarrassing to be seen walking around with a fat chick. Its just degrading. I don't have the game to convince her never to come outside and just stay in dark places with me or private places. If she would respond, she's gonna want to be treated just like thinner girls. Thats one thing I've noticed for a while, fat/ugly 2s 3s' 4s 5s 6s feel as though they are hot sh!t. Thats a result of the dating ratios being lopsided in the US, but I'm sure you've all read about this theory before

So I just went to Walgreens. As I was getting advil pm for one of my family members, a MILF walked over and started talking to me, out of the blue. I don't know if its coincidence or if I'm starting to give off some sort of signal that I have other women after me. Now, this milf was pretty good looking for her age, probably a 6, but had a light menopause mustache (lol) which was a huge turn-off from the get-go. But of course, I'm a changed guy now and I socialize with EVERYONE I can. I was very concious of my body language the whole time, standing my ground, not leaning in to talk, looking distracted at times, looking right in her eyes when I was talking, shoulders back, back str8. I learned this from this guy Entropy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYh7UmVSgk0

Finally, here's the convo and how it went

MILF: (struggling with the box of pills) can you get that out of there?
Me: (I take it out and hand it to her)
MILF: Thanks, this is for my blah blah blah
Me: Yea, I don't actually even take any medicine. This is for a family member
MILF: Oh, I don't either!
Me: Yea, I'm looking for a bigger box of Advil instead of these small ones
MILF: (starts going off about her ill family member)
Me: Wow, what a mess that is
MILF: (laugh) yea
MILF: (looks at my college shirt) Oh, you go to blah college?
Me: yea
MILF: what are you studying
Me: blah...
MILF: oh good
Me: alright have a good one

Would of number closed of course, but she just didn't cut it for me. Not that I'm in a position to bargain with little to no plates spinning myself, but she wasn't even worth 1 lay.

Tommorrow: Clubbing time. Will excercise in my basement in the morning or possibly use the campus gym (i never use it), shower, and get ready. In the mean time tomorrow, I will watch loads of PUA vids on body language and story telling techniques

 

[TIC]

Last night was the biggest disappointment so far. I was invited to a foam party at a frat house, but decided not to go because its too cold for that sh!t Me and my friend were supposed to go to a nice night club in the city. But, he decided to change plans at the last minute and meet up with an old friend of his. This guy was a complete sleezeball once we met up at his house. His speech was slurred from the very beginning, he was standing around talking to us with his pants half off. He mentioned drugs, guns, and other depressing dangerous sh!t while the movie Pitch Black was on.

We all smoked grass for a while, I had a bottle of Cpt Morgan AND 2 Remy shots, and I was barely even buzzed. I have some sort of high tolerance. Anyway, I could tell this night would not go well. We head to a local bar, and all we see are OLD FAT WOMEN. Like 30+. We leave pretty quick.

Then, we go to a grill/bar that this sleezeball swears is cool. But its a sausage, cowfest. Not one decent 7 in the whole building. We ended up in VIP eating some OK food. Not one of us talked to a girl besides the waitress, who the sleezeball tried to game but failed (she was engaged) and even she was a 5 at best

I go home empty handed and blue-balled and pissed. I would of been better off heading to the club by myself. Friends always do this kind of crap, changing plans at the last minute and fuking everything up.

Well, hopefully tonight will go better. There is a huge college icebreaker and I have a couple people that want to go. Will update.

 

[TIC]

Last night, I set a record.

This icebreaker was held downtown. A few hours before it started, I called up a few of my buds. One guy responded and we planned to go. The cover charge was $20 a piece but fortunately I know the guy working there, and he got us in for 10.

We head in, post up at the bar for a while. I didn't drink anything this night, completely sober. About an hour passes and we are walking around. What is strange about this event was no one was dancing. Everyone was staring at the people on stage not moving. Guys weren't doing sh!t at all.

I decide to start making moves in there. I walk up to a girl, put my arm around her,

TIC: My name's Brandon. Listen your adorable I had to come meet you
HB8: *Giggles*
TIC: No one is dancing lol, you look bored lets go.

I lead her toward the center of the floor, but she keeps looking back at her friends. She looked nervous and said we would dance later. Never did

There is a group of about 5-6 dancing. I see the cutest one hb7 and just go for it. I come beside her, arm around her shoulder, look her dead in the eye, and use the same opener I did all night

TIC: Hey Im tic listen your adorable i had to come meet you
HB7: Im blah
TIC: nice to meet you blah listen lets have fun

We dance for like 4 songs, then she says she has to pee. I ask for her digits and she puts herself in my phone. 1st number of the night.1 more number than any guy in that club got

Then, I see another blonde hb7 with one friend. I walk right up, do the shoulder thing look her in the eye,

TIC:hey im brandon listen your adorable i had to come talk to you
hb7: o thanks im blah
TIC: (addressing her friend) and whats your name?
hb4: ugly
TIC: (with my arm around both of them) List hb7 you look bored come on lets dance
HB7: I think she wants to dance (pointing to her ugly friend)
TIC: I asked you blah now come on

We dance for a few songs, her friend is just standing there watching. The ugly friend eventually comes to break us up and c-block. I get hb7's digits anyway. Thats 2 numbs so far

I walk to the other side of the club. Same routine when I see a hb6 dancing with her friends. We dance for a while, she gives up the digits after. I actually tried to kiss this one after saying "you have really kissable lips" but that didn't work, had to settle for digits. 3 numbs

Then I go toward the stage, and just start grinding on this random hb6. after 2 songs her friends pull her away, they are about to leave. As she is walking i have my arm around her saying "you can't leave without giving me your numb". I hand her the phone, she put her numb in, they leave. 4 numbs

Then, right before me and my friend left, a pretty good hb8 comes walking past. I say fuk it and do my arm routine. This one shows alot of interest. She talks more, and even stands there to pick up the conversation when it went dead. She takes MY number into her iphone. (i didnt count this as getting a number). She says like 3 times she will text me.

We leave, I'm satisfied. I mean I'm pretty sure not one guy even got 1 number that whole night, meanwhile I leave with 4. I'm definitely cash$$$ money at these nightclubs and bars.

I don't know if its my game or my looks or both. Either way, I'm doing great. I've never got 4 numbers in 1 day let alone a few hours. Hopefully, this will result in at least one date. The last time I went to the club they were flakes, but hey, this was a college icebreaker so maybe these chicks won't flake who knows.

My wing didn't do anything the entire night and I don't know what to make of it. He didn't do anything last times in the club either. He's just like every other guy, just standing and watching. He's an old high school friend who was a football star (FB, played some college). Everyone knew him, but he's kind of a bafoon i don't know. He's had alot of girls but I've never seen him game a chick. I don't have any friends that have game or can be a good wing. They all have bad anxiety, but then again that appears to be most guys in these clubs


We might be hitting a club again tonight, this time that 2nd one.

 

[TIC]

At 3:04pm, that last HB8 that took my number texted me. I waited a good 20 mins before texting her back. This girl is pretty dam cute, 18 years old. Here is the exact texts. I need some advice

HB8: This is hb8
TIC: Hey hb8. How was the rest of ur night in there after i left?
hb8: it was fun
TIC: Cool you finally got loose lol to bad i wasnt there
TIC: so what are you up to
HB8: Doin my hair
TIC: Cool look we should catch a movie thursday
HB8: Time?
TIC: I'll figure it out and tell you wednesday


And thats it. Will update on my calls to the other 4 numbers tomorrow

 

[Nino-Tk]

Dude you are inspiring me...you doing well, the more you fail, the more success you get too.

 

[DjLarrySmooth]

Youtube mystery PUA he had some great story telling and openers.

But dude your doing great