The plight of African Americans in game

[Bokanovsky]

^Totally agree with everything Joe said. Like I and backbreaker said before, some of us brothers date outside of our race because if we didn't we would NEVER date. Demographics people...demographics. My location and interests always made it so that black women were low in number for dating prospects.

What a load of crap. Every major metropolitan area in the U.S. has a significant black population. I wonder what sort of "interests" you have that prevent you from dating black women. Are you into burning crosses? Riding around on a horse draped in a white cloak? Nazi uniform fetish?

 

[Jaylan]

What a load of crap. Every major metropolitan area in the U.S. has a significant black population. I wonder what sort of "interests" you have that prevents you from dating black women. Are you into burning crosses? Riding around on a horse draped in a white cloak?

Can you read at all? I live in the SUBURBS doofus. Most women I encounter in real life and online are white.

And my interests are soccer, blues music, alternative rock, amongst other things. When I go to the gym to train, I mainly see white women. When I go play soccer or see soccer matches, I see mainly white chicks. And at concerts or local shows or open mics...guess what? Mainly white women.

Jeezus Christ learn to fvking read. I clearly said I live in the burbs and that my location is different from the city where guys like me are common. Guys like me are not common in the burbs. Quit being a trolling fvktard and learn to read. More and more you show people your own racial bias based on the kinda crap you always vomit out of your mouth.

 

[HumbleNinja]

Again part of the problem is The liberal media brain washing of how black dudes are "supposed" to be viewed started many years ago contributing to how women subconciously will view black men though they almost never say it publically..

Think about what they were trying to tell people in the long ago classic movie "King Kong".

"Big scary 'gorilla' gets taken from a distant land by "refined" well dressed white people"

White woman is the 'heroine/ helper' of the big bad misunderstood "gorilla" and falls in love with him.

"Refined" well dressed White men then kill him.

Even back then the media/ Hollywood couldn't help but sterotype the "ugly" African male/black savage male meets beautiful white female love story and white men have to hunt him down and kill him.

They made it thinly veiled at the agenda the libs were pushing and used the image of a savage black "gorilla" to sterotype what a "black man" is like to white wome and that beautiful white women should or "need" to fall in love with that image. Watch King Kong and tell me that ISN'T part of the message they were trying to covertly convey.

Think about it. It's only one small part of how people are conditioned even if they don't realize or dwell on things like that. It's in constant small doses.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Can you read at all? I live in the SUBURBS doofus. Most women I encounter in real life and online are white.

Move to a black area then. Go to a gym that is located in a black area. Go to clubs and bars that are frequented by black people. Search specifically for black women on online dating sites (most give you an option to filter by race). It's not rocket science doofus. If you wanted to meet black women, you would find a way. But you don't want to date black women, because you don't find them attractive. And then you whine because some white women don't find you, a black man, attractive. This is the ultimate in hypocrisy. You are not attracted to your own race but other races *must* be attracted to it? WTF.

 

[Solomon]

You really never contribute anything to these sort of discussions other than slinging the "youre playing the race card" accusation at people.

Maybe you should try and see things from a different perspective for once. Trust me dude, you need to talk to more people...because they are folks out there who openly admit or show through their actions that certain races are unsuitable to them for dating, solely because of their race.

Hell go to dating forums and read how some people openly talk about race. It DOES affect dating. Yes many women do use guys outside of their ethnicity for flings, or simply refuse to date them based on race alone.

And part of the reason my ex and I ended up not working out is due to family pressure she felt. We had our own relationship issues, but she always felt like her mother couldn't accept me. Hell, her family is why she was iffy about taking a chance on me to begin with.

So tell me again how my blackness never has any bearing on my dating life. Please go ahead and dismiss my life experiences...even though Ive outright heard people give race as their reasoning for who they do and don't date.

When you argue with close minded people you're basically aruging in vain
Your rebuttuals have been excellent but the guy is a closet racists who doesn't care either way

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I have met guys like Borovagay before these guys are angry because they're not winning in real life with women, but on sosuave he is a 9 star genereal

It's easy to see

Who actually deals with other races outside of the computer and who doesn't
Who actually approaches women and who doesn't

It's easier to shame black guys for not liking black women or call them out for liking other women etc

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Move to a black area then. Go to a gym that is located in a black area. Go to clubs and bars that are frequented by black people. Search specifically for black women on online dating sites (most give you an option to filter by race). It's not rocket science doofus. If you wanted to meet black women, you would find a way. But you don't want to date black women, because you don't find them attractive. And then you whine because some white women don't find you, a black man, attractive. This is the ultimate in hypocrisy. You are not attracted to your own race but other races *must* be attracted to it? WTF.

Black people in general don't won't anything to do with other black people that act even a tiny a bit white. If you do not act like a thug or some pro black cultural soave than they will show hostility and resentment to you.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Black people in general don't won't anything to do with other black people that act even a tiny a bit white. If you do not act like a thug or some pro black cultural soave than they will show hostility and resentment to you.

I get a sense from this thread that many blacks have a rather negative view of their own race. Yet, they get upset when other races are not attracted to them. Don't you see the obvious logical flaw in your thinking?

 

[backbreaker]

Again part of the problem is The liberal media brain washing of how black dudes are "supposed" to be viewed started many years ago contributing to how women subconciously will view black men though they almost never say it publically..

Think about what they were trying to tell people in the long ago classic movie "King Kong".

"Big scary 'gorilla' gets taken from a distant land by "refined" well dressed white people"

White woman is the 'heroine/ helper' of the big bad misunderstood "gorilla" and falls in love with him.

"Refined" well dressed White men then kill him.

Even back then the media/ Hollywood couldn't help but sterotype the "ugly" African male/black savage male meets beautiful white female love story and white men have to hunt him down and kill him.

They made it thinly veiled at the agenda the libs were pushing and used the image of a savage black "gorilla" to sterotype what a "black man" is like to white wome and that beautiful white women should or "need" to fall in love with that image. Watch King Kong and tell me that ISN'T part of the message they were trying to covertly convey.

Think about it. It's only one small part of how people are conditioned even if they don't realize or dwell on things like that. It's in constant small doses.

It reminds me of why I hate afro centric movies. Besides the vast majority of them being.. ****ty.. they all have the exact same archetypes in every movie.

Every is based around some noble hot black woman that can't find a good man. Then you have the hard up thug, then somewhere in the movie you have the nerdy / preppy black guy that gets laughed at and never taken seriously. And the guy she wants is 9 out of 10 times usually some guy who went to prison but really wasn't hard and hs "changed his life around" and now he's caring and has a real job but he still has enough thug in him to be sexy.

Every. last. ****ing. one.

 

[PlayHer Man]

No one on this thread is 100% wrong. Race is a factor, but only one of many.

If you are of a certain race and a woman won't touch you because of this.. why do you want her? Why do you want to be with a bigot c*nt in the first place?

Until men take women off the pedestal and stop drooling over worthless trash because she "looks pretty" nothing will improve for them.

No man on earth can kiss every girl. No man on earth is "hot" to all women. Some men get more than others.. but all men who aren't total faggots can get laid if they get over themselves and do what's necessary.

Tell me right know what is accomplished by saying: "I'm Asian, black, short, ugly, etc. and women won't date me because of it". What do you want? A hug? :crackup:

Stop crying and get to work. You have identified that racist people exist. Good job. Now what? Are you going to do something or just cry?

 

[ArcBound]

You can go have your dialogues about why women don't like nerdy black men. Just don't say stupid sh!t like "white bethren need to understand" or "white guys have 2x harder than I do , I could clean up twice as much if I were white:woo: ". White men are not obligated to hear or care about your complaints any more than black men are obligated to hear about white problems.

From my own experiences I could say jobless black friends who didn't look good, or have much charisma could pull more than me when I was growing up here in the NorthEast. Do I constantly complain about that? No, I improve myself and find woman that fit into my life. That's all anyone can do whether they are white black brown purple rainbow.

 

[HyperAnalyze]

I'm not going to start touting my own race card but at the end of the day.

You are dealt the hand that you were dealt.

All you can do now is play the game how you see fit.

Stop worrying about other people and continue to improve yourself.

No one likes someone who complains all the time. I know it's fking hard being a minority and that the fact that your own race has turned their back on you doesn't help. But there's nothing that you can do to change that.

We are here to improve ourselves, regardless of the color of our skin or what nations flag that we carry.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

I get a sense from this thread that many blacks have a rather negative view of their own race. Yet, they get upset when other races are not attracted to them. Don't you see the obvious logical flaw in your thinking?

Ya it sucks! Black people put each other down non-stop. No, we are upset because we think we are great catches, but we are still set aside due to our race. Yet, the lower ones in our race are reaping all the benefits while we are here trying to be successful, but still getting **** on for our decision to try to be a successful individual. Again, both of my parents are doctors, I'm good looking, tall, and muscular, but I still get constantly rejected because of the stigma my skin color carries. Since my college is heavily conservative, the ideal guy is a beer bellied dad looking white fraternity guy. There's really nothing I can do about this. My black friend comes from an affluent household and drives a porsche cayenne, but he has drive 3 hours to a progressive city to pull.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

BB speaks the truth but besides dwelling on it and arguing why don't you guys get your mouthpiece up. And get your game up. When I was in college making no money I had btches drive hours to see me. Now that I have weapons (car, crib, career) I can literally do anything I set my mind too. Some of you are dwelling on facts and not doing anything to compensate for any weakness you think you have.

I'm not even into white girls to be honest. I've had white girls chase me too and I've had a few in my lifetime in which I pursued and got. My current girlfriend is half white half black and she's as close as a dime as you can get. ( at least to me).

Point of the matter: You Get What You Allow.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

BB speaks the truth but besides dwelling on it and arguing why don't you guys get your mouthpiece up. And get your game up. When I was in college making no money I had btches drive hours to see me. Now that I have weapons (car, crib, career) I can literally do anything I set my mind too. Some of you are dwelling on facts and not doing anything to compensate for any weakness you think you have.

Point of the matter: You Get What You Allow.

idk how it is Atlanta, but most people do not like black people in my college unless you are holding a ball or singing. They are really two faced about the subject. It is common to hear racial slurs at football games if the players screw up. We have a true black freshman qb playing, but people want him out already because they think black people are too dumb to play qb.

 

[backbreaker]

I've been England a few times with the misses that's where she's from. It really isn't a big deal over there. I mean it's a deal but it's no where near the deal we make it here. There's no astigmatism like there is in the US.

 

[goodganji44]

One thing I can I can definitely say that African American nerds have it very tough. Especially if yourr one that grew up in the hood like myself. But then again, I think as long as you dont lose at life like 98% of the people who put you down, you really reap the benefits of being a late bloomer.

Whats worse to me are the african american women who took feminism to new heights.

 

[JoeMarron]

But don't you think this equally applies to black men (i.e. obesity, ghetto-ness, etc.)? It would seem logical to conclude that the majority of black guys complaining about not being able to get women (black or otherwise) are not exactly cream of the crop either. Blaming your failures with women on your blackness is just another example of playing the race card IMO.

Move to a black area then. Go to a gym that is located in a black area. Go to clubs and bars that are frequented by black people. Search specifically for black women on online dating sites (most give you an option to filter by race). It's not rocket science doofus. If you wanted to meet black women, you would find a way. But you don't want to date black women, because you don't find them attractive. And then you whine because some white women don't find you, a black man, attractive. This is the ultimate in hypocrisy. You are not attracted to your own race but other races *must* be attracted to it? WTF.

You're still missing the point. We aren't talking about the majority of black men. Obesity, ghetto-ness etc. doesn't apply to the black men that we're referring to. It's not that we don't find black women attractive; I don't know about the other black dudes here but for me dating black women isn't that serious of a need. I'm not going to jump through a thousands hoops to date black women when there's perfectly date-able women all around me. You and me, and probably other black dudes are coming from a completely different mindset. Racial loyalty is a completely alien concept to me. I'm making assumptions here but unlike you there is absolutely no reason for me to have a strong desire to date inside of my race. I've grown up around mostly white women, I see mostly white women in the media, I'm surrounded by white women everywhere I go. Not saying that I have a preference for white women but there was never an opportunity for me to develop any kind of strong attachment towards my race. That's why I call bullsh!t when people want to claim that people have an innate desire to want to stick with their own race. It's a learned desire. If you stick around one race long enough the naturally you'll want to stick with them. However, at the end of the day humans are attracted to attractive humans. I don't give a fraction of a fvck what race a chick is, if she's hot and human then I'll fvck her, date her, and possibly have kids with her.

 

[Jaylan]

Move to a black area then. Go to a gym that is located in a black area. Go to clubs and bars that are frequented by black people. Search specifically for black women on online dating sites (most give you an option to filter by race). It's not rocket science doofus.

Wtf are you talking about? I should change my entire life around and change my interests just to chase women of my race? Sorry but Im not picking up my life for women...Ill leave that to the guys who travel around the world for 3rd world punani.

Why in the world would I travel miles and miles to a gym just to meet black women when I already spend 4 hours total commuting to work daily? Especially when I have a gym 10 minutes forum home. Why would I go to a club or bar that plays music Im not that fond of? I told you I like rock and blues.

And black dating sites are hardly populated at all. Like I said, if I simply chased the kind of black women I like, I would hardly ever date. I make due with whats around me doofus.

If you wanted to meet black women, you would find a way. But you don't want to date black women, because you don't find them attractive. And then you whine because some white women don't find you, a black man, attractive. This is the ultimate in hypocrisy. You are not attracted to your own race but other races *must* be attracted to it? WTF.

You are a fool. The girl Im interested in right now at work is black. Tell me again how I don't find my own women attractive. Nice job trying to put words in my mouth. Nice job looking like a fool yet again with your assumptions.

There is no hypocrisy here, only your stupidity. How about you stay out of these threads...because you never add anything of worth to them.

Tell me where I said I didn't want to date black women. Please quote me. Let me say this one more time...LEARN TO READ. Brush up on your reading comprehension. My saying that most of my dating options are non-black, does NOT mean I don't want to date black women. It means what it says....it means that if I want to have a dating life at all, I cannot only date black women.

Black folks only make up 13% of the US population. And once you get into the burbs, in certain areas you see more and more white people. Im not picking up my life or changing my interests in order to meet women I may not click with. Ill date women with similar interests no matter what their race is.

Please go.

 

[cordoncordon]

I have to post that.....

If I had to venture an educated guess, I would bet that black men have it easier to get sex, while they have it harder to get a relationship. Simply because of stereotypes and such. But that is just a guess.


Black men, I respect you, but you sincerely have a limited idea how easy or hard it is for white men to get women, simply because you are not white.

Saying that white men have it easier, but then turning and saying we don't know how hard it is for black men, is just plain simply illogical. We have the same general idea as eachother on the success of eachother, but we have never walked in the other guy's shoes so we don't know.

I am going to go out on a limb and say BOTH races have it hard with women in general, simply because the women are going for alphas of *any* race. I know LOTS of white men who struggle to get any pu$$y at all. And these are decent guys.


Now, if the argument is that women will only go for black men that meet a specific stereotype, then I can certainly believe that, because they do the same for white men.

Hell, it should be common knowledge know that one of the tenets of PUA is to not be a "common" person but to fit a specific arch-type of society. Women basically want to sample from each "type" of man there is. That includes Jocks, DJ's, Bartenders, Italian, Black, Foreign, Biker, Bouncer, Rich guy, etc,....

No matter which race you are, try to fit one of those special arch-types, and you will greatly increase your chances. Use your race to an advantage to become one of those. Or quite simply, if you are black, make yourself the black bouncer, or black bartender. Or like Backbreaker, the black rich guy.

White guys, be the white jock, the white Bartender, white DJ, etc,... Stop focusing on race and focus on what you can change.

I agree with this.

Let me add though that as far as the media goes for the past 20 years or so, the black man has been portrayed far better to women than the white man. The black man for the most part is portrayed as tough, alpha, and cool. The white guy that you see on TV shows and in commercials? Geeky, average to below average looks, meek, a bumbling idiot. Why? Because they want to make women look better. So the woman with the nerdy guy is usually smart, attractive, witty, has her sh1t together. Lately you see this with gays as well. Especially in movies. They are always so sharp minded and witty.

Now, yes the white race and white men in particular are still looked upon as the dominant, most desirable men to get with, by almost all races. But I think that is probably because the white man has the best combo of looks, maturity, money making ability, long lasting life span, and non violent behavior. But that doesn't mean there are not plenty of idiot white men out there. There are tons. It is just on average, they are still the best at living a long, happy, non violent life. I think the black race as a whole is in a tough position. Not only are they looked down upon by many, but the average IQ is not as high as a white or Asian and they are much more prone to violent behavior. This puts many in a tough economic position and behind the 8 ball, even if they are smart and non violent. So the good kind of gets thrown in with the bad, and that is a shame. Right on this board we have a number of black guys who post, like BB and Solomon, and both are pretty smart guys. And they have risen above all of the tough things that life has thrown at them to do well in life, and with women. So good job. Now if only the black leadership and those who follow those leaders would stop playing the "woe is me and you don't know how tough we have it" card, stop committing violent crimes, stop killing each other and others, get an education, and do something positive with their lives, and who knows, maybe in 100 years they will be on par with the Asians and whites when it comes to being the leaders and prominent community members of the world. This of course will only make them more desirable to women. Of all races.

 

[cordoncordon]

*grabs popcorn*

6'2, 225 Black guy who does Ji Jitsu with masters degree struggles to get black women (yes that's my buddy)

No point arguing here BB said everything I wanted to say didnt know Playherman was black agree with some of his other stuff too

this topic will never die on this forum no matter how hard the mods will try, the truth is hard to accept sometimes I guess....




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