The One Thing I 100% Agree With BlackPillers On

[Solomon]

Even if prostitution was legal, BlackPillers wouldnt run to them women and have sex them,

BlackPillers main gripe is they can’t get the hot, sexy, young never married, no kids women in 20s to have sex with them and love and care about them.

BlackPillers can get single mothers -> don’t want them
BlackPillers can get fat women—> don’t want them
BlackPillers can get older women -> don‘t want them
BlackPillers can get sex anywhere , but they have to pay for it directly -> don’t want them

The main fight, the main anger, the main bitterness among BlackPillers, RedPillers and men everywhere, is for hot young women under 30 who have little baggage.

A woman outside parameters, it’s in a man’s DNA to know how to act around them.

Brother you bring up an excellent point that I have also brought up throughout the years. If you are a man you cannot be mad at a woman wanting the best option she can get, men do it too. The thing that Blackpillers (and these average men particularly on Tik Tok) don't realize is that 20 years ago if you were a man who was 25+ with no job, no car, and lived in your parents' house you didn't get much or any play. Fast Forward the rising number of men who are overweight, live with their parents, have no job or car (one or all) has risen significantly in the last 20 years

Not saying BPers don't have valid points, but I remember once watching a livestream video about a 30 year old black piller whining about not having a girlfriend and he was living with his parents while working at Taco Bell. These guys sound just like the women they complain about. He easily can get a fat girl of Tinder if he wanted lol

What I find OD is BPers constant obsession over looks and making livestreams on youtube hours on end, it really lets you know they want hot young women and are in rage mode that they can't get them. Instead of doing 6 hour youtube livestreams that's 6 hours you could spend at a job or working out and doing other fun stuff

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

I'm not entirely sure of what the exact timeline would be for something like this, but I totally agree. I'm not even old, but 10 years ago the thought of only fans was never even in the cards. I remember around that time period there was this huge scandal going on with this site called Girls Do Porn lol, which was a wild case btw. Anyway, fast forward to today and it's actually not all that rare for regular/normal women to be creating content for OF. I think it's pretty crazy to see how much the attitude towards something like this has changed in such a relatively short period of time.

With OF specifically, I think a huge reason is that women can make a lot of money off of it without really doing all that much. I've never been on there, but I guarantee a good chunk of it is just taking photos/videos of themselves in lingerie or even full blown naked, maybe have their boobs out, etc. I'm sure it goes beyond this, but I also guarantee that there are hordes of simps that would throw decent amounts of cash to see this crap. It's a bizarre concept to me that doesn't make sense, especially since you can see countless numbers of naked women for free with a simple google search lol.

I think the idea of a man dating a woman as being a luxury or unusual has some interesting points that I can kind of see playing out. Even today, there are tons of stats showing that Gen Z men are regularly NOT having sex or dating women, whereas for the opposite sex this is NOT true. A lot of it is simply women chasing a minority of men and leaving the remainder fighting for scraps or even be left out in the cold all together. I used to think this crap was made up, but I've seen it for myself with those a bit younger than me. Many women today are far too readily rejecting decent/acceptable men that would make solid relationship prospects in favor for who knows what exactly.

During the pre COVID years I knew a guy going to the university in my area who would have an actual real GF that was long distance AND also had a side piece that was obsessed with him. I guarantee that side piece would have considered herself "in a relationship" or "taken" if she were surveyed, so she had effectively taken herself off of the market. Granted, they were in college but I'd wager something like this is not all that uncommon past that age range.

Your idea about the poly relationships is interesting and I also believe this is going to be far more common. The example I mentioned above would be somewhat common and not all that unusual. However, I also could see something where a woman is getting multiple men as well. Quite a while ago when I used to use facebook I recall seeing a profile picture in the "suggested friends" list or whatever that was called that had a woman with 2 men in the picture with her. The woman was below average looking, as were the men, and when I clicked on it they clearly were in a poly relationship, 1 woman with the 2 men lol. I don't think this would be all that common, but given how desperate a lot of men can get who knows lol.

As for comments about AI, robotics, etc. I personally imagine a scenario where you can have a "relationship" with an AI entity that you can talk to, share your thoughts and feelings with, etc. I picture something like what Master Chief from Halo had with Cortana. As for the sex robots, I totally could see this being very close to the real thing that it would be scary to consider.

Anyone who is following societal level trends and connecting it with ever advancing technology can see where this stuff is heading. I do believe that there will still be normal people with normal relationships, but I think you would have to go OUT of your way to be a part of that. It's very hard to predict cultural norms of the future when there are so many events that can occur, which could completely alter the course of history. Look at how different things were in 1870 compared to 1920, or hell even 1920 with 1970. Look at how much has changed since the late 90s. I'm going to be able to see this all play out in my lifetime and it's going to be wild.

I found it interesting to. I do believe hypergamy and polygamy will be more pronounced in the future 100%

 

[Dr.Suave]

Even if prostitution was legal, BlackPillers wouldnt run to them women and have sex them,

BlackPillers main gripe is they can’t get the hot, sexy, young never married, no kids women in 20s to have sex with them and love and care about them.

BlackPillers can get single mothers -> don’t want them
BlackPillers can get fat women—> don’t want them
BlackPillers can get older women -> don‘t want them
BlackPillers can get sex anywhere , but they have to pay for it directly -> don’t want them

The main fight, the main anger, the main bitterness among BlackPillers, RedPillers and men everywhere, is for hot young women under 30

This guy is quickly climbing through the ranks of my top 10 posters.

 

[sangheilios]

@Solomon

I think the biggest issue is that you have many otherwise normal or even decent men who are legitimately struggling to even get dates, let alone relationships. There have ALWAYS been lifelong bachelors or men that have been cast out of the mating pool, the thing is these men were highly ABNORMAL. However, today you have pretty large swaths of young(ish) men that are in this category, which shows there is something very warped going on.

I've discussed this with @SW15 but many women are incredibly fussy today, though to a degree where they've effectively taken themselves off of the market.

I used to hang out with a guy that worked at a bank and he told me this interesting story about the coworkers trying to set up one of the tellers on a date, a fat girl. Anyway, they asked her how it went and she mentioned something about not being interested, so she asked why, because he was overweight lol. A fat girl rejected her approximate looks match and most likely legitimately believes that she is entitled to a fit man.

I heard a story from a relative who worked at a hospital in the Boston metro area and how the nurses were complaining about how there were no men with "brains" to date lol. Out of one of the bigger metros in the country there were no men suitable for these women, which is outlandish to saw the least.

Hell, I'm 6'4" and around 230 with abs right now and have had issues in the dating market with women I legitimately considered average. Sure, I'm getting into my 30s now, but I cannot see a reason why someone like me should be struggling with women around my age who are average tier.

I think the overall pickiness and being overly selective is something women are far more guilty of than men by far. Sure, you have some guys that may be a bit too picky for their own good, but these guys are by and large the exception and not the norm. In fact, I'd add that most men have fairly low standards and will put up with anything that is potentially available to them sexually.

I also believe that there is nothing incorrect about having some basic standards. As a very man, I expect a girl to at least be of a healthy or normal weight, which I don't think is too much to ask for. A lot of my hobbies are physically active, so this would be a requirement for us to even have some degree of personal compatibility. Other than that, it's just a basic level of attractiveness, her not having kids and not having issues with drugs, alcohol, etc., who is otherwise normal and pleasant to be around. I see plenty of women like this, but found actually getting one to go on a date with has been a challenge.

 

[SW15]

I'm 6'4" and around 230 with abs right now and have had issues in the dating market with women I legitimately considered average. Sure, I'm getting into my 30s now, but I cannot see a reason why someone like me should be struggling with women around my age who are average tier.

6'4", 230 lbs, abs, and muscles definition is 'Chad' territory. A 'Chad' should be seducing average looking women rather easily. 'Chads' pump and dump average looking women. Average looking women are chasing the high of having sex with Chads.

many women are incredibly fussy today, though to a degree where they've effectively taken themselves off of the market.

The abundance of options for many women enables them to be incredibly fussy.

 

[Solomon]

@Solomon

I think the biggest issue is that you have many otherwise normal or even decent men who are legitimately struggling to even get dates, let alone relationships. There have ALWAYS been lifelong bachelors or men that have been cast out of the mating pool, the thing is these men were highly ABNORMAL. However, today you have pretty large swaths of young(ish) men that are in this category, which shows there is something very warped going on.

I've discussed this with @SW15 but many women are incredibly fussy today, though to a degree where they've effectively taken themselves off of the market.

I used to hang out with a guy that worked at a bank and he told me this interesting story about the coworkers trying to set up one of the tellers on a date, a fat girl. Anyway, they asked her how it went and she mentioned something about not being interested, so she asked why, because he was overweight lol. A fat girl rejected her approximate looks match and most likely legitimately believes that she is entitled to a fit man.

I heard a story from a relative who worked at a hospital in the Boston metro area and how the nurses were complaining about how there were no men with "brains" to date lol. Out of one of the bigger metros in the country there were no men suitable for these women, which is outlandish to saw the least.

Hell, I'm 6'4" and around 230 with abs right now and have had issues in the dating market with women I legitimately considered average. Sure, I'm getting into my 30s now, but I cannot see a reason why someone like me should be struggling with women around my age who are average tier.

I think the overall pickiness and being overly selective is something women are far more guilty of than men by far. Sure, you have some guys that may be a bit too picky for their own good, but these guys are by and large the exception and not the norm. In fact, I'd add that most men have fairly low standards and will put up with anything that is potentially available to them sexually.

I also believe that there is nothing incorrect about having some basic standards. As a very man, I expect a girl to at least be of a healthy or normal weight, which I don't think is too much to ask for. A lot of my hobbies are physically active, so this would be a requirement for us to even have some degree of personal compatibility. Other than that, it's just a basic level of attractiveness, her not having kids and not having issues with drugs, alcohol, etc., who is otherwise normal and pleasant to be around. I see plenty of women like this, but found actually getting one to go on a date with has been a challenge.

I don't disagree with you at all, however when I'm talking about Blackpillers on youtube this is what I mean

^^This guy is 30 years old yet looks like a 60 year old, his problem is simple hit the gym, he's got a good-looking face(no diddy) if he loses the weight he won't do so bad. In regards to fat women blame the Chad's for banging them, this has been an open secret for years but guys have really lowered their standards and women conflate sexual market value with girlfriend/wife market value. 20 years ago a fat girl knew if she was banging a Chad it was a one-off situation. Now it's a weekly thing for some of these girls

I knew a guy like this, guy, who is a bodybuilder I use to work out with but would date the fattest chicks. I'm not saying "Thick" I'm talking fatter than the girl in the pic and the guy had a 6pack. He would proudly brag about being a lard chaser. WTF is the point of going to the gym if you have some fat fetish? We don't talk about it but there are lot of Chads/Tyrones who have fat fetish and love banging fat chicks

You're 6'4, 230 respectfully you should not be struggling unless you're in Miami/LA or a place where looks alone won't get you in the door (unless you are autistic or socially awkward) I would recommend changing your location brother, put on a checkered shirt and move to Madison Wisconsin you would have a roster of 7 women within a month lmfao. Location matters a lot too, you can't be a broke guy thinking you gonna get 9s and 10s in Miami if you look average

 

[Epicwinguy]

Whatever happened to "enjoy the decline?" Who cares about "moral decline?"

 

[AttackFormation]

I don't disagree with you at all, however when I'm talking about Blackpillers on youtube this is what I mean

^^This guy is 30 years old yet looks like a 60 year old, his problem is simple hit the gym, he's got a good-looking face(no diddy) if he loses the weight he won't do so bad. In regards to fat women blame the Chad's for banging them, this has been an open secret for years but guys have really lowered their standards and women conflate sexual market value with girlfriend/wife market value. 20 years ago a fat girl knew if she was banging a Chad it was a one-off situation. Now it's a weekly thing for some of these girls

I knew a guy like this, guy, who is a bodybuilder I use to work out with but would date the fattest chicks. I'm not saying "Thick" I'm talking fatter than the girl in the pic and the guy had a 6pack. He would proudly brag about being a lard chaser. WTF is the point of going to the gym if you have some fat fetish? We don't talk about it but there are lot of Chads/Tyrones who have fat fetish and love banging fat chicks

You're 6'4, 230 respectfully you should not be struggling unless you're in Miami/LA or a place where looks alone won't get you in the door (unless you are autistic or socially awkward) I would recommend changing your location brother, put on a checkered shirt and move to Madison Wisconsin you would have a roster of 7 women within a month lmfao. Location matters a lot too, you can't be a broke guy thinking you gonna get 9s and 10s in Miami if you look average

There are more men who genuinely like fat girls (turned on by them) than many guys seem to think. Though whether they have the guts to admit that can vary. It's not them lowering their standards as often as you think

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Brave new world.

The part where kids are created in labs and not in relationships.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

its controversial, always has been and always will be, but a lot of people think sex workers provide an awesome and neccesary service for humanity, i agree, the way i see it and i'm sure a lot of people agree, that is, why should guys, men with "game", or men with superb social skills, confidence, charisma, experts in social dynamics, why should those be the only type of men in the world that are allowed to experience getting laid, being physically touched by another human being? thats very deep.

but yeah i see that industry only getting bigger, since for the past couple of years now, the rate of sexless men has increased a lot, and what they obviously mean is, men being unable to get laid the natural normal way.