The One Thing I 100% Agree With BlackPillers On

[SW15]

I'll also add that attitude towards having children, marriage, etc. has definitely gone down the toilet. I think a huge number of gen zs will have no children at all or maybe 1.

Millennials have not had a high birth rate. A good portion of Millennials have waited until the last possible moment to squeeze out 1 child, maybe 2. My "Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere" thread is about mid to late 30s Millennial women having their "last call" babies.

I feel like people around my age, where social media didn't really take off until I was well into high school, are going to be the last normal generation.

You were born in 1990. The back half of Millennials (1990-1996) is not a great group. All Millennials (1981-1996) are pretty messed up though the back half of the generation is more messed up socially. The earlier Millennials got a poop storm by graduating into the Great Recession of the late 2000s though.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Even if prostitution was legal, BlackPillers wouldnt run to them women and have sex them,

BlackPillers main gripe is they can’t get the hot, sexy, young never married, no kids women in 20s to have sex with them and love and care about them.

BlackPillers can get single mothers -> don’t want them
BlackPillers can get fat women—> don’t want them
BlackPillers can get older women -> don‘t want them
BlackPillers can get sex anywhere , but they have to pay for it directly -> don’t want them

The main fight, the main anger, the main bitterness among BlackPillers, RedPillers and men everywhere, is for hot young women under 30 who have little baggage.

A woman outside parameters, it’s in a man’s DNA to know how to act around them.

These fellas are similar to https://www.deadendfollies.com/blog/classic-movie-review-alex-proyas-the-crow-brandon-lee then

"A lot of people on this planet believe they’ve been horribly wronged at some point in their existence. That a great injustice robbed them of their potential. It’s almost never true, but it’s why revenge movies have always and will always be popular"


"Black Pillers" daydreaming of the allegedly Gynocentric social order they believe f-cked them over receiving it's Apocalypse is essentially a revenge fantasy

 

[Hamurabimbi]

As long as men are so thirsty and have ostensibly discretionary income women will gladly take it.

I’m on OLD and while I stick older age groups given my own age, I do from time to time set the bar for younger gals to see what’s going on. The use of the words: “successful gentleman” , “generous”, “spoil me”, “I love to travel” is everywhere now in the younger profiles. They would not post that if it didn’t net results.

Hell there is a contingent here that base their game on leading with their “wealth”, whether real, not, or imagined.

Girls not only gladly take resources from men. But are proud of it. One of my ex-‘s boasted to me her ex-BF paid for her car & schooling. Another GF I met via Tinder Told me she went out with a guy via Tinder. She told him no kissing. No sex (she said she didn’t find him attractive, but thought his bio was cool). He still took her to dinner and a ballgame.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Girls not only gladly take resources from men chumps.

Did you get the feeling they appreciated the support or do they regard these generous men as chumps? I think the latter.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Did you get the feeling they appreciated the support or do they regard these generous men as chumps? I think the latter.

My ex- who used the BB to buy her car & school. She openly mocked. The other girl was more appreciative. And said she really enjoyed his company and had a nice time with him. She just didn’t feel any sexual attraction for him.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

The other girl was more appreciative. And said she really enjoyed his company and had a nice time with him. She just didn’t feel any sexual attraction for him.

Which was not a problem to her accepting his money...
"How to be a sex worker without actually providing sex."

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Which was not a problem to her accepting his money...
"How to be a sex worker without actually providing sex."

I’ve personally heard women boast and mock guys who buy them expensive stuff.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I’ve personally heard women boast and mock guys who buy them expensive stuff.

Doesn't pay to be easy

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I’ve personally heard women boast and mock guys who buy them expensive stuff.

That's why I eschew giving material gifts to women unless we're already in a loving LTR. And even then, the gifts will not be 'expensive' as much as 'thoughtful'. With the right woman, the gift is more about letting her know you thought about her, than the actual value. Women who do not appreciate small gifts are not worthy of the bigger gifts.

Dutch proverb: 'Wie het kleine niet eert is het grote niet weert' (who doesn't appreciate the small is not worthy of the big).

 

[Hamurabimbi]

That's why I eschew giving material gifts to women unless we're already in a loving LTR. And even then, the gifts will not be 'expensive' as much as 'thoughtful'. With the right woman, the gift is more about letting her know you thought about her, than the actual value. Women who do not appreciate small gifts are not worthy of the bigger gifts.

Dutch proverb: 'Wie het kleine niet eert is het grote niet weert' (who doesn't appreciate the small is not worthy of the big).

My GF still makes fun of my for giving her a tiny box of chocolate (2 pieces) after our first date. She’s convinced they were samples I got for free (they weren’t).

 

[Gamisch]

How did you establish that there is no stigma?
Firstly, no guy in his right mind and with an IQ above 50 would overlook a woman's sexual past before getting serious with her or have any doubts that OF is sex work. Secondly, read the comments under the articles about OF or the YouTube videos with OF 'models'. People know what's going on.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't believe that legalization of prostitution would magically transform wife material girls, those with the mindset for family and children, into sex workers. The idea is laughable ... those girls won't even go down the IG influencer route which is legal and carries basically no stigma.

I have to agree. Prostitution is legal here , and ill bold it: the US of A is the LEADING EXAMPLE to the entire western hemisphere. Everything that happens there happens here in Europe. Men in Europe have it equally difficult as men everywhere.

Having said that, another thing I'll bold: if you legalize prostitution, MORE women will dabble into it. She can work in a sexclub somewhere far from home for six months and hardly anyone will know. It's mostly the lifestyle that creeps up with them, similar to Male criminals who start living a luxurious life instead of staying lowkey and stacking money.

1.Women WON'T behave better suddenly. 2.Men also won't be satisfied with just visiting prostitutes.

Lets look at 2. I do know MANY men who haven't seen a naked woman besides prostitutes. BUT, they have a notch count of hunderds. (Your weeny in a slid= a penetration. If she quits sex work, you still have hit it..).

So yes, some men will refrain from regular dating and "make life easy" by visiting a sex club weekly and pay approximately 100 euro for 30 minutes, or even 40 if you visit certain places. But eventually also these men wouldn't say no to a loyal, honest fine woman who'd believe in them through thick and thin.

 

[Gamisch]

What about the shaming that will ensue? Men are already shamed for wanting to bang hookers.

The need will be stronger than the shame.

Not too long ago you HAD to be seen with a baddie to keep your reputation up. Even visiting prostitutes was frowned upon. Something like a man dressing like a woman was unheard of. A passport bro was rather called a passport predator (and that was when it actually worked to be a passport bro lol)

Now it's all mainstream. There's BILLIONS to be made by providing men an alternative solution to being an incel.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

The need will be stronger than the shame.

Not too long ago you HAD to be seen with a baddie to keep your reputation up. Even visiting prostitutes was frowned upon. Something like a man dressing like a woman was unheard of. A passport bro was rather called a passport predator (and that was when it actually worked to be a passport bro lol)

Now it's all mainstream. There's BILLIONS to be made by providing men an alternative solution to being an incel.

I don’t know a single person who has been with a h@@ker. Or at least will admit to it.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I don’t know a single person who has been with a h@@ker. Or at least will admit to it.

Ironically the men I know who have gone to ho0kers and admit it, are also men who attracted a fair share of women.

 

[pipeman84]

I don’t know a single person who has been with a h@@ker. Or at least will admit to it.

It's the kind of thing one shouldn't talk about because most often than not, there's no positive out of it. Imagine you're in a group of guys and some of them try shaming you or somehow act like a superior smart ass. You can bring up their girlfriends or worse wives, and point out they are tied down to women who've had their share of dycks and as their SMV started plunging (when older than 25) they found a chump to settle down with. Those are facts that can't be argued with, but they'll probably feel insulted. So it's a lose/lose situation.

 

[Gamisch]

Ironically the men I know who have gone to ho0kers and admit it, are also men who attracted a fair share of women.

Great point.

Ofcourse we will be quick to picture a "typical neckbeard incel" ,BUT there's another reality at play as well: the sex addicted man with some money who simply loves the thrill combined with clapping cheeks.

The reason why ,as mentioned before the typical blackpiller will still refrain from escorts despite having no women might have to do with the fact that its STILL a male/female interaction. If you are extremely "self aware" and in a negative way (like most blackpilled men do) you'll THINK and perhaps rightfully so feel that the woman goes through the motion robotically. Can you imagine that a prostitute of all people is the final straw that broke the camel's back, and makes such a man believe that NO woman on earth likes him?


There are many sexclubs where you gotta pay a "hefty" amount just to enter the vicinity ,thus raising the bar and type of men that visit such a club. As I said before , you'll be hard pressed to find a woman lower than hb7 and mostly between 20 and 30 years old. It's basically a perfect match at that point: horny money hungry woman vs good looking sex addicted man. They might've met in a club and they woukd also sleep with each other.

If you are a good looking man she'll probably enjoy the job and show enthusiasm, unless she has a bad mood. I bet that a hunderd bucks will provide most men with the opportunity to sleep with the hottest woman they've slept with in 5 years...

At some point the game slips away from a man. At that point a few interactions with women can give him that egde back.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Great point.

Ofcourse we will be quick to picture a "typical neckbeard incel" ,BUT there's another reality at play as well: the sex addicted man with some money who simply loves the thrill combined with clapping cheeks.

The reason why ,as mentioned before the typical blackpiller will still refrain from escorts despite having no women might have to do with the fact that its STILL a male/female interaction. If you are extremely "self aware" and in a negative way (like most blackpilled men do) you'll THINK and perhaps rightfully so feel that the woman goes through the motion robotically. Can you imagine that a prostitute of all people is the final straw that broke the camel's back, and makes such a man believe that NO woman on earth likes him?


There are many sexclubs where you gotta pay a "hefty" amount just to enter the vicinity ,thus raising the bar and type of men that visit such a club. As I said before , you'll be hard pressed to find a woman lower than hb7 and mostly between 20 and 30 years old. It's basically a perfect match at that point: horny money hungry woman vs good looking sex addicted man. They might've met in a club and they woukd also sleep with each other.

If you are a good looking man she'll probably enjoy the job and show enthusiasm, unless she has a bad mood. I bet that a hunderd bucks will provide most men with the opportunity to sleep with the hottest woman they've slept with in 5 years...

At some point the game slips away from a man. At that point a few interactions with women can give him that egde back.

Fassbender's character in Shame

 

[Manure Spherian]

Ofcourse we will be quick to picture a "typical neckbeard incel"

Actually the womanizers I knew growing up would be told they “sound like an incel” today.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Fantasy is fantasy, but adding paid sex workers to your 'conquests' is similar to banging trans women and saying you're straight.

Ewww

 

[Dr.Suave]

Imagine you're in a group of guys and some of them try shaming you or somehow act like a superior smart ass. You can bring up their girlfriends or worse wives, and point out they are tied down to women who've had their share of dycks and as their SMV started plunging Those are facts that can't be argued with, but they'll probably feel insulted. So it's a lose/lose situation.

No need to imagine, it happens on the SoSuave Forums all the time.