The One Thing I 100% Agree With BlackPillers On

[Solomon]

Disclaimer this post isn't meant to be negative but merely a post for the sake of discussion

Prostitution will be legalized and regulated in more areas of the US by 2040. Let me just state that I'm against this, as I think our society is already in deep moral decay. Fast forward, much like the cannabis business, (just as rappers like Snoop&Dr Dre for example in the 90s sang the praises of weed, today it is now normalized, as rappers like popular female rappers sing the praises of sex work it is becoming normalized) corporations in the future will set up brothels and investors will be able to buy stock in them. To further increase profits, top-earning women - influencers - will become brands (receive contracts) and offer even greater incentives to investors. Like OnlyFans, hordes of women will flock to prostitution with a few able to churn out riches. At the same time, the masses attracted to the possibility of riches and fame for little next to no work, will become debt slaves, signing contracts like artists in the music business, they will be fronted cash, houses, cars, designer brands, but will have to work their asses off an eternity to pay off what they "owe". As artificial intelligence takes over more jobs, the population increases nationwide, education becomes more unaffordable and out of reach, and there will be fewer jobs to compete for thus more women will give into temptation as it will be normalized and more acceptable(just like Onlyfans became normalized in recent years and also even glorified by the MSM). Due to inflation, the cost of living will be near impossible for most women(and men, you will also see a rise of poly relationships but that's another topic). Most millennials for example can't afford to buy a house today by 2030 most people (not just women) won't be able to afford a one-bedroom apartment because of how fast prices have increased since COVID-19.

So yes Black Pillers are right prostitution will become legal, once AI robots have full functionality by the 2050s most men will opt for that. Dating a woman will be a luxury to men who have social skills, money etc.

Once again I do not advocate for this but the tech is evolving faster than anyone can imagine

 

[sangheilios]

I'm not entirely sure of what the exact timeline would be for something like this, but I totally agree. I'm not even old, but 10 years ago the thought of only fans was never even in the cards. I remember around that time period there was this huge scandal going on with this site called Girls Do Porn lol, which was a wild case btw. Anyway, fast forward to today and it's actually not all that rare for regular/normal women to be creating content for OF. I think it's pretty crazy to see how much the attitude towards something like this has changed in such a relatively short period of time.

With OF specifically, I think a huge reason is that women can make a lot of money off of it without really doing all that much. I've never been on there, but I guarantee a good chunk of it is just taking photos/videos of themselves in lingerie or even full blown naked, maybe have their boobs out, etc. I'm sure it goes beyond this, but I also guarantee that there are hordes of simps that would throw decent amounts of cash to see this crap. It's a bizarre concept to me that doesn't make sense, especially since you can see countless numbers of naked women for free with a simple google search lol.

I think the idea of a man dating a woman as being a luxury or unusual has some interesting points that I can kind of see playing out. Even today, there are tons of stats showing that Gen Z men are regularly NOT having sex or dating women, whereas for the opposite sex this is NOT true. A lot of it is simply women chasing a minority of men and leaving the remainder fighting for scraps or even be left out in the cold all together. I used to think this crap was made up, but I've seen it for myself with those a bit younger than me. Many women today are far too readily rejecting decent/acceptable men that would make solid relationship prospects in favor for who knows what exactly.

During the pre COVID years I knew a guy going to the university in my area who would have an actual real GF that was long distance AND also had a side piece that was obsessed with him. I guarantee that side piece would have considered herself "in a relationship" or "taken" if she were surveyed, so she had effectively taken herself off of the market. Granted, they were in college but I'd wager something like this is not all that uncommon past that age range.

Your idea about the poly relationships is interesting and I also believe this is going to be far more common. The example I mentioned above would be somewhat common and not all that unusual. However, I also could see something where a woman is getting multiple men as well. Quite a while ago when I used to use facebook I recall seeing a profile picture in the "suggested friends" list or whatever that was called that had a woman with 2 men in the picture with her. The woman was below average looking, as were the men, and when I clicked on it they clearly were in a poly relationship, 1 woman with the 2 men lol. I don't think this would be all that common, but given how desperate a lot of men can get who knows lol.

As for comments about AI, robotics, etc. I personally imagine a scenario where you can have a "relationship" with an AI entity that you can talk to, share your thoughts and feelings with, etc. I picture something like what Master Chief from Halo had with Cortana. As for the sex robots, I totally could see this being very close to the real thing that it would be scary to consider.

Anyone who is following societal level trends and connecting it with ever advancing technology can see where this stuff is heading. I do believe that there will still be normal people with normal relationships, but I think you would have to go OUT of your way to be a part of that. It's very hard to predict cultural norms of the future when there are so many events that can occur, which could completely alter the course of history. Look at how different things were in 1870 compared to 1920, or hell even 1920 with 1970. Look at how much has changed since the late 90s. I'm going to be able to see this all play out in my lifetime and it's going to be wild.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Disclaimer this post isn't meant to be negative but merely a post for the sake of discussion

Prostitution will be legalized and regulated in more areas of the US by 2040. Let me just state that I'm against this, as I think our society is already in deep moral decay. Fast forward, much like the cannabis business, (just as rappers like Snoop&Dr Dre for example in the 90s sang the praises of weed, today it is now normalized, as rappers like popular female rappers sing the praises of sex work it is becoming normalized) corporations in the future will set up brothels and investors will be able to buy stock in them. To further increase profits, top-earning women - influencers - will become brands (receive contracts) and offer even greater incentives to investors. Like OnlyFans, hordes of women will flock to prostitution with a few able to churn out riches. At the same time, the masses attracted to the possibility of riches and fame for little next to no work, will become debt slaves, signing contracts like artists in the music business, they will be fronted cash, houses, cars, designer brands, but will have to work their asses off an eternity to pay off what they "owe". As artificial intelligence takes over more jobs, the population increases nationwide, education becomes more unaffordable and out of reach, and there will be fewer jobs to compete for thus more women will give into temptation as it will be normalized and more acceptable(just like Onlyfans became normalized in recent years and also even glorified by the MSM). Due to inflation, the cost of living will be near impossible for most women(and men, you will also see a rise of poly relationships but that's another topic). Most millennials for example can't afford to buy a house today by 2030 most people (not just women) won't be able to afford a one-bedroom apartment because of how fast prices have increased since COVID-19.

So yes Black Pillers are right prostitution will become legal, once AI robots have full functionality by the 2050s most men will opt for that. Dating a woman will be a luxury to men who have social skills, money etc.

Once again I do not advocate for this but the tech is evolving faster than anyone can imagine

You weep when imagining a future where the state will have LESS power over our everyday lives, including who Americans hop into bed with, and whether or not they profit from it financially?

 

[BaronOfHair]

I'm not entirely sure of what the exact timeline would be for something like this, but I totally agree. I'm not even old, but 10 years ago the thought of only fans was never even in the cards. I remember around that time period there was this huge scandal going on with this site called Girls Do Porn lol, which was a wild case btw. Anyway, fast forward to today and it's actually not all that rare for regular/normal women to be creating content for OF. I think it's pretty crazy to see how much the attitude towards something like this has changed in such a relatively short period of time.

With OF specifically, I think a huge reason is that women can make a lot of money off of it without really doing all that much. I've never been on there, but I guarantee a good chunk of it is just taking photos/videos of themselves in lingerie or even full blown naked, maybe have their boobs out, etc. I'm sure it goes beyond this, but I also guarantee that there are hordes of simps that would throw decent amounts of cash to see this crap. It's a bizarre concept to me that doesn't make sense, especially since you can see countless numbers of naked women for free with a simple google search lol.

I think the idea of a man dating a woman as being a luxury or unusual has some interesting points that I can kind of see playing out. Even today, there are tons of stats showing that Gen Z men are regularly NOT having sex or dating women, whereas for the opposite sex this is NOT true. A lot of it is simply women chasing a minority of men and leaving the remainder fighting for scraps or even be left out in the cold all together. I used to think this crap was made up, but I've seen it for myself with those a bit younger than me. Many women today are far too readily rejecting decent/acceptable men that would make solid relationship prospects in favor for who knows what exactly.

During the pre COVID years I knew a guy going to the university in my area who would have an actual real GF that was long distance AND also had a side piece that was obsessed with him. I guarantee that side piece would have considered herself "in a relationship" or "taken" if she were surveyed, so she had effectively taken herself off of the market. Granted, they were in college but I'd wager something like this is not all that uncommon past that age range.

Your idea about the poly relationships is interesting and I also believe this is going to be far more common. The example I mentioned above would be somewhat common and not all that unusual. However, I also could see something where a woman is getting multiple men as well. Quite a while ago when I used to use facebook I recall seeing a profile picture in the "suggested friends" list or whatever that was called that had a woman with 2 men in the picture with her. The woman was below average looking, as were the men, and when I clicked on it they clearly were in a poly relationship, 1 woman with the 2 men lol. I don't think this would be all that common, but given how desperate a lot of men can get who knows lol.

As for comments about AI, robotics, etc. I personally imagine a scenario where you can have a "relationship" with an AI entity that you can talk to, share your thoughts and feelings with, etc. I picture something like what Master Chief from Halo had with Cortana. As for the sex robots, I totally could see this being very close to the real thing that it would be scary to consider.

Anyone who is following societal level trends and connecting it with ever advancing technology can see where this stuff is heading. I do believe that there will still be normal people with normal relationships, but I think you would have to go OUT of your way to be a part of that. It's very hard to predict cultural norms of the future when there are so many events that can occur, which could completely alter the course of history. Look at how different things were in 1870 compared to 1920, or hell even 1920 with 1970. Look at how much has changed since the late 90s. I'm going to be able to see this all play out in my lifetime and it's going to be wild.

Attractive young women have been taking their clothes off on camera for a quick buck since at least the early 20th Century. OnlyFans just made it possible for Sally Thompkins in the outskirts of Toledo to now do so from her own living room, whereas as recently as The 2000s, she would've had to immigrate to Los Angeles, then catch the eye of a porn producer. I agree that women who go this route are in for a rude awakening, when they're compelled to seek out 9-5 employment and decent men to be their husbands + father their children by time their late 20s roll around, but let's not pretend that this is anything especially new

How much has changed since the 90s-early 2000s? Not as much as we're often led to believe

Man Troubles

Making sense of the men's movement.

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'No More Mr. Nice Guy!' A Federal Way psychotherapist wants men to reclaim their masculinity | The Seattle Times

And that's just for starters

 

[corrector]

I've just subscribed to one girl on OnlyFans, which was ironically used as motivation to talk to another girl at work. In a twisted way, I made a deal with myself, this past Monday, that either I approach a lady in the cafeteria and ask to sit next to her for lunch, or I'll log into OnlyFans right there (at an isolated table) and see if the other "lady" I subcribed to replied back, etc..... I chose to approach. The fact that I have an OF sub means that, somewhere in my mind, I really like women, in particular Philipean women (ie given the escort I subbed to is from the Phillipeans) and there is cognitive dissonance if I don't act in pursuing what I'm interested in.

While I'm not logging on to OnlyFans again to look at other women or even the lady I subscribed too, I can still feel there is "something" that is making me thinking more about wanting to connect with women in general more than usual. This gives the opportunity to engage with escorts (or whoever you want to engage with), with the protection of a screen, and in the comfort of your own home, where ever you are.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I've just subscribed to one girl on OnlyFans, which was ironically used as motivation to talk to another girl at work. In a twisted way, I made a deal with myself, this past Monday, that either I approach a lady in the cafeteria and ask to sit next to her for lunch, or I'll log into OnlyFans right there (at an isolated table) and see if the other "lady" I subcribed to replied back, etc..... I chose to approach. The fact that I have an OF sub means that, somewhere in my mind, I really like women, in particular Philipean women (ie given the escort I subbed to is from the Phillipeans) and there is cognitive dissonance if I don't act in pursuing what I'm interested in.

While I'm not logging on to OnlyFans again to look at other women or even the lady I subscribed too, I can still feel there is "something" that is making me thinking more about wanting to connect with women in general more than usual. This gives the opportunity to engage with escorts (or whoever you want to engage with), with the protection of a screen, and in the comfort of your own home, where ever you are.

Reminds me of

33:25-34:06, specifically

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

So yes Black Pillers are right prostitution will become legal, once AI robots have full functionality by the 2050s most men will opt for that. Dating a woman will be a luxury to men who have social skills, money etc.

E X A C T L Y what happened when The Netherlands legalised prostitution.

 

[sangheilios]

@BaronOfHair

I don't think you really understand what is being discussed on here.

No one is saying prostitution, porn, etc. did not exist in the past. The difference now is that there is virtually no stigma or taboo associated with it like you would have seen not that long ago. I cited that porn site girls do porn from a little over 10 years ago. A lot of the women had real life backlash over doing that, whereas now no one would care. Girls doing OF is probably way more common than you realize. This technology in combination with the lack of social stigma is why you will see this becoming increasingly more and more the "norm" with time. Women really don't have to go out of their way to reach out to some porn company or playboy or whatever, they can literally do it on their own whenever and wherever.

Something else that hasn't been touched on is that many women are low key involved with prostitution to some degree. I'm not referring to actual escorts with ads or women standing on the corner or working at a strip club. A lot of these thots you see on instagram are pseudo escorts that use that social media platform to get hit up through their dms. There is one particular woman I've known of in my area for quite a while now who has all these travel photos, this woman is basically getting flown around by various guys with money and having sex with them. Basically, sugar baby type stuff. Seeking arrangements is a site specifically dedicated to this and I've recognize women from the gym on there a couple times, some guy I knew a while back showed me and it was interesting to say the least.

This stuff is nothing new, it's just that this would have been isolated to specific social networks and almost like a club. However, social media technology has made this much more accessible to hordes of women. As @Solomon mentioned, when women are not doing well financially, or even outright struggling, this is incredibly tempting. She could go work at some low wage job where she is barely scraping by OR she could engage in one of these different trades and make a lot of money.

There is essentially a moral decay going on with society and what is being discussed here is one of these things. Widespread legalization/normalization of drugs is one for starters, you can see what's happened with Portland, Oregon. Another example is the rampant spread of gambling, Draft Kings for instance took over America during the pandemic.

Combine the moral decay with life expenses getting out of hand, increasing poverty, etc. and you have the right recipe for what @Solomon is talking about.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

As long as men are so thirsty and have ostensibly discretionary income women will gladly take it.

I’m on OLD and while I stick older age groups given my own age, I do from time to time set the bar for younger gals to see what’s going on. The use of the words: “successful gentleman” , “generous”, “spoil me”, “I love to travel” is everywhere now in the younger profiles. They would not post that if it didn’t net results.

Hell there is a contingent here that base their game on leading with their “wealth”, whether real, not, or imagined.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@BaronOfHair

I don't think you really understand what is being discussed on here.

No one is saying prostitution, porn, etc. did not exist in the past. The difference now is that there is virtually no stigma or taboo associated with it like you would have seen not that long ago. I cited that porn site girls do porn from a little over 10 years ago. A lot of the women had real life backlash over doing that, whereas now no one would care. Girls doing OF is probably way more common than you realize. This technology in combination with the lack of social stigma is why you will see this becoming increasingly more and more the "norm" with time. Women really don't have to go out of their way to reach out to some porn company or playboy or whatever, they can literally do it on their own whenever and wherever.

Something else that hasn't been touched on is that many women are low key involved with prostitution to some degree. I'm not referring to actual escorts with ads or women standing on the corner or working at a strip club. A lot of these thots you see on instagram are pseudo escorts that use that social media platform to get hit up through their dms. There is one particular woman I've known of in my area for quite a while now who has all these travel photos, this woman is basically getting flown around by various guys with money and having sex with them. Basically, sugar baby type stuff. Seeking arrangements is a site specifically dedicated to this and I've recognize women from the gym on there a couple times, some guy I knew a while back showed me and it was interesting to say the least.

This stuff is nothing new, it's just that this would have been isolated to specific social networks and almost like a club. However, social media technology has made this much more accessible to hordes of women. As @Solomon mentioned, when women are not doing well financially, or even outright struggling, this is incredibly tempting. She could go work at some low wage job where she is barely scraping by OR she could engage in one of these different trades and make a lot of money.

There is essentially a moral decay going on with society and what is being discussed here is one of these things. Widespread legalization/normalization of drugs is one for starters, you can see what's happened with Portland, Oregon. Another example is the rampant spread of gambling, Draft Kings for instance took over America during the pandemic.

Combine the moral decay with life expenses getting out of hand, increasing poverty, etc. and you have the right recipe for what @Solomon is talking about.

I didn't(and still don't)disagree that any woman who desires a decent husband, who will be a solid father to the kids she also yearns for, diminishes her chances for acquiring such things by putting her a-s up on OnlyFans, becoming a stripper, signing a contract with Vivid, etc etc. I'm also not sure what more we can do about these alleged problems, aside from gently yet firmly informing the ladies of the risks they're taking, by engaging in these activities. Or that it makes sense to spend much time fretting over what someone else, or even a veritable sh-tload of our fellow citizens, choose to do with their own lives

I wish those of you here in '24, who've been blessed with an unassailable sense of right and wrong, and who lament "the moral rot" in our society luck in your efforts to lead humanity back to The Utopia from which we fell, the minute that silly b-tch Eve ate from The Tree Of Knowledge

Moral reformers have been trying to make human beings into paragons of righteousness since antiquity, with very little success. You all may be the first in the history of our species to save the rest of us idiots from our reprobate ways

 

[SW15]

With OF specifically, I think a huge reason is that women can make a lot of money off of it without really doing all that much. I've never been on there, but I guarantee a good chunk of it is just taking photos/videos of themselves in lingerie or even full blown naked, maybe have their boobs out, etc. I'm sure it goes beyond this, but I also guarantee that there are hordes of simps that would throw decent amounts of cash to see this crap. It's a bizarre concept to me that doesn't make sense, especially since you can see countless numbers of naked women for free with a simple google search lol.

The majority of OF content creators cannot sustain an income on OF alone. They can make money off of their looks alone without doing OF. OF is not likely to kill off the breastaurant like Hooters or Twin Peaks, though some women combine OF and breastaurant work. Strip clubs are not as popular as they once were due to high speed internet porn and OF. I don't think strip clubs will go away, but some will close due to lack of demand.

Is OnlyFans Killing the Strip Club and Breastaurant?

We all know that simps are going to simp. Is the venue for simping now different than it used to be? Simps used to need to show up in person to simp. For women, why bother working in a strip club or Hooters/Twin Peaks when you could work at home? The counter argument to that is that few...

www.sosuave.net

A lot of group fitness class instructors look like they could do OF/sex work. Many group fitness class instructors are women with bachelor's degrees + and white collar jobs who teach a small schedule of group classes as a side hustle.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

{URL unfurl="true"]https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/[/URL]

'No More Mr. Nice Guy!' A Federal Way psychotherapist wants men to reclaim their masculinity | The Seattle Times

And no, Federal Way has nothing to do with the government, it's a city in the pacific northwest. (keepin' sh1t clean over here)

 

[BaronOfHair]

"And no, Federal Way has nothing to do with the government, it's a city in the pacific northwest"

Presume it also has no connection to United Way either

 

[BillyPilgrim]

How exactly will dating become a luxury when, under this scenario, there's less demand for P and women will have unfulfilled romantic desires and a deficit of attention received?

It seems like women would be thirsty (for things they typically would get thirst for) under this scenario.

 

[zekko]

I've just subscribed to one girl on OnlyFans, which was ironically used as motivation to talk to another girl at work. In a twisted way, I made a deal with myself, this past Monday, that either I approach a lady in the cafeteria and ask to sit next to her for lunch, or I'll log into OnlyFans right there (at an isolated table) and see if the other "lady" I subcribed to replied back, etc..... I chose to approach.

I wouldn't log into OnlyFans at work if I were you, even if it is in the cafeteria. Someone might report your to human resources, and you'd be gone.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

"And no, Federal Way has nothing to do with the government, it's a city in the pacific northwest"

Presume it also has no connection to United Way either

Lolz you're the guy who brought up gov't control and then linked to a misleading headline

/derailment

 

[corrector]

I wouldn't log into OnlyFans at work if I were you, even if it is in the cafeteria. Someone might report your to human resources, and you'd be gone.

If you are going to worry about human resources complaints, then virtually any interaction with the opposite sex inside the office could be a potential human resources complaint too. Even going up to a lady and asking to sit beside her for lunch is a potential risk too. In fact, checking to see if there is a reply on an OnlyFans page on a smartphone on an isolated table is not something that would get noticed compared to interactions with women at the office.

The concept of the cafeteria was to create a fantasy that this OF girl I was talking to would also be in the cafeteria. Just like I'm worried about approaching, I'd be worried about logging in to see if she replied and what she replied saying, etc..... Again, this was really executed last Monday and I ended up approaching and sitting next to the nice lady. I still have not logged back on OF or even looked at any escort pics/porn or fapped since that time. Now its over a week I'm like this. How is that for no-porn/no-fap, lol.

Its good that there are nice women in the world that don't make you feel crazy or inferior when you are dealing with them leading to a healthy and theraputic interaction or exchange at the end of the day rather than a human resources complaint.

 

[sangheilios]

How exactly will dating become a luxury when, under this scenario, there's less demand for P and women will have unfulfilled romantic desires and a deficit of attention received?

It seems like women would be thirsty (for things they typically would get thirst for) under this scenario.

You may have missed what he was getting at.

In the nearer term things like men struggling to date, therefore leading to them becoming more desperate for female attention will lead to increased prevalence of OFs, etc. Women are rejecting large numbers of men and this a trend that will continue to grow. Basically, you have a large percentage of men getting NOTHING from women who basically give all of their attention to an increasingly smaller and smaller subset of men.

However, robotics and AI will eventually become so advanced that they can essentially replace women engaging in this behavior, which brings the balance you are talking about. The one caveat to this though is that this may become so engrained into society that real relationships, sex, etc. that we know of are considered odd.

This is a very frightening and depressing idea to consider but there is much to be learned from discussions pertaining to it.

Something NOT controversial to consider is that dating apps are set up in a way that keeps people on there longer, which means more revenue, etc. You go about doing this by making it MORE difficult for people to meet one another and not less, despite what it claims to be for. You can argue whether this is purely just for revenue purposes or something deeper, like it being a means to lower the population. Dating apps and social media have been one of the worst things for the development of healthy and stable real world male-female relationships.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Disclaimer this post isn't meant to be negative but merely a post for the sake of discussion

Prostitution will be legalized and regulated in more areas of the US by 2040. Let me just state that I'm against this, as I think our society is already in deep moral decay. Fast forward, much like the cannabis business, (just as rappers like Snoop&Dr Dre for example in the 90s sang the praises of weed, today it is now normalized, as rappers like popular female rappers sing the praises of sex work it is becoming normalized) corporations in the future will set up brothels and investors will be able to buy stock in them. To further increase profits, top-earning women - influencers - will become brands (receive contracts) and offer even greater incentives to investors. Like OnlyFans, hordes of women will flock to prostitution with a few able to churn out riches. At the same time, the masses attracted to the possibility of riches and fame for little next to no work, will become debt slaves, signing contracts like artists in the music business, they will be fronted cash, houses, cars, designer brands, but will have to work their asses off an eternity to pay off what they "owe". As artificial intelligence takes over more jobs, the population increases nationwide, education becomes more unaffordable and out of reach, and there will be fewer jobs to compete for thus more women will give into temptation as it will be normalized and more acceptable(just like Onlyfans became normalized in recent years and also even glorified by the MSM). Due to inflation, the cost of living will be near impossible for most women(and men, you will also see a rise of poly relationships but that's another topic). Most millennials for example can't afford to buy a house today by 2030 most people (not just women) won't be able to afford a one-bedroom apartment because of how fast prices have increased since COVID-19.

So yes Black Pillers are right prostitution will become legal, once AI robots have full functionality by the 2050s most men will opt for that. Dating a woman will be a luxury to men who have social skills, money etc.

Once again I do not advocate for this but the tech is evolving faster than anyone can imagine

An interesting social experiment would be legalizing prostitution while criminalizing porn.

 

[sangheilios]

An interesting social experiment would be legalizing prostitution while criminalizing porn.

What do you think the results would be?

Porn in some capacity has existed for a very long time, the difference is that it wasn't all that easily accessible in the past, if at all. Instead, brothels were a very common thing in the not too distant past, at least in America that is. Perhaps sleeping with a prostitute has a different effect than a man just watching porn?