The official feminism thread [Merged threads]

[Alpine]

The trouble is with women is they are greedy.

Two hundred years ago men could quite leaglly put an iron mask contraption on his wife's head with spikes on it so if she opened her mouth it puctured her cheeks. No bad thing you may think.

Then some posh bird with nothing better to do jumps infront of a horse and the next thing you know they've got the vote.

This is where it all started going wrong. Let's face it when they take your name it's because you own them, and the rape law was design for if someone damaged your property not for her benefit.

Anyway, if that wasn't bad enough, now they've got jobs, drive sports cars and have too much thinking time on their hands. 'What else can we screw men for?' is their prime directive and it can only get worse.

Then they have the cheek to complain when men go off to foriegn lands to find women who are treated properly and know their place in society, ie. on the bed or in the kitchen.

I reckon the Arabs have it right. They don't let 'em drive you know either, (unless it's a too drunk to drive home emergency).

Anyway, let them have their fun for a while, they know who's boss ultimately.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Don't fret guys - the approaching world war will be a cleansing of the hor / homo attitude and behavior - things will return to their natural and rightful place quickly!!

 

[izza]

Re: You're an Idoit

Originally posted by coder
You criticize feminism while using the same reasoning. Bad things have happened. Men dominated women. Therefore men are bad. Good things have also happened. Do you give credit to men for these things? Or is anything that is good because of women? You’re so caught up on the environment that you can’t see that there is nothing wrong with it. If a man wants to make a company that makes him rich while providing services and products to people that want them and also providing employment to people that want jobs and paying taxes to the government, does that make him bad? Or is it just envy that you aren’t able to do it yourself?

Tell me something. When did individualism become a bad thing? Maybe it was when people figured out that it is the opposite of communism. Did you know that what is now called environmentalism used to be called conservation? It’s when all the socialist/communists took the environment as a front for the communist movement that the name changed. Conservation sounds too much like conservative for their tastes. They try to bring down the “evil corporations” by *****ing about phony pollution so that the socialists will have a shot at taking over the government. They use class envy to push that being successful is bad. No, better to be a couch surfer that volunteers at the soup kitchen so the junkies can continue their life style than to be a success. That must be the secret to getting great woman! Let us know how you do with the hot homeless/junky babes!

Coder,

Thanks for the response.

But when did I ever say 'men are bad?'

Ok, so you're against helping the homeless - whatever. But is it better to sit at home on your a$$ watching tv than to help the elderly or tutor inner city kids? Or relieve poverty in the 3rd world? What could be more manly than to help others?

Believe it or not there is more to life than finding "secrets to getting great women," and believe it or not, women are not the reason I live my life (though good god do they sweeten it). You know you are living the life of your dreams when you would be happy without a single woman in it.

Look dude, I'm not trying to flame you or anything, I just want you to seriously think about this. Will all the women in the world make you happy? Will all the money in the world make you happy? If you think so, at least consider that people cannot be happy without a higher purpose in life. If that purpose is to build your own company and employ people, that's awesome. If that purpose is to help people like the poor in other countries, or the lost or the confused or the suicidal, that's awesome. I'm just saying it's manly to live life for a purpose greater than money or power - be as individualistic as you want. Your life will never have meaning until you live for something meaningful - women and money are fun but they are not meaningful.

Am I just wasting my breath? Are our points of view irreconcilable?

Izza

 

[bob88]

I don't like femenists. Sure, things aren't the same for men and woman but they just take it too far. This one girl i knew back then she was all complaining about things and telling us how she feels and all that femenists crap and i asked her, "So, if you want males and females to be equal then if i were to take you out on a date would you pick me up at my place? Open doors for me? Pay for the dinner?" And guess what she said....."No, thats the mans job." What happened to females wanting to do everything men do then?


Not really sure if I made a point but whatever. LOL

 

[al77]

Originally posted by JackPrescott
a lot of what is said about American women is DEAD A$$ED on the money. American girls seem to despise sex, unless you have some $$$

Why else would we need a website like "So Suave?" If American girls were like the girls from Bangkok, we'd be discussing different methods of the Kama Sutra, and the Tantric Arts, instead of Kino. American women have enough problems with you touching them, much less going to bed with you.

I guess in terms of $$ women are not much different around the world. What different is their opportunities to earn decent $$$.
In US women earnm spend, have fun ... why would they need, want men? In most other countries women either have much less opportunities to earn money, or do not have that mindset that they need to "work hard and play hard". So they need men who are naturally providers for a family.

So, the conclusion is: north american idea of encouraging women to work more, and brag about it "I work..60+ per week! I am a cool professional woman" shifts the natural way of creating families and make women more of "I dont care about anyone" attitude. They have opportunities to work, and to earn decent $$, why really they need a man than? To watch kids when she is at work? How fun does it sound?
Another coclusion: Society of equal opportunities has its own huge disadvatanges, another example could be affirmative action...when you may get a job not because you are the most qualified for it, but cuz you are much different from the majority of people. Is not it odd??

 

[izza]

I'm surprised you guys find American women so prude

 

[undesputable]

fighting feminism....how?

Ive been trying to think of ways of fighting feminism....but ive had no luck with that.... I think that if you try to fight it with straight up macho behavior, its just going to make any situation worse....

instead, im thinking of ways of being a real man, while taking advantage of feminism....

The only way i and many other people know is to kinda turn the tables around.... For example, if you two go out and you know shes a feminist you might say "ill let you practice your feminist views and let you pay for ________"

what i mean is kinda take advatage of her being a feminist by letting her do what they embrace, while keeping your cool, acting like a man, but treating her like the man she wants to be(no homo thoughts). maybe shed think twice about trying to be a feminist from that point on, or at least keep her from being hardcore.

does anybody know what im saying, and if yall have anymore examples?

 

[DJ_in_making]

lol, I don't worry about it. Feminism is just one of those things that you can leave alone and it kinda screws up itself....

 

[undesputable]

i dont think is something you can just leave alone....

Maybe is just where i live that there are soooo many of them....most girls i come across are like "im the biggest feminist youll ever meet, and my best friend is gay" im like wtf....

 

[tristan22]

There is nothing worse then a female with a powerful job. The woman/minority quotas has got to stop.

Whatever happened to the best person for the job?

 

[I'm Joe Dirt]

I sometimes like to say the following to the feminsts: "Aww you're a feminist? How cute" or "Hmmm wow you're a feminist, you know what, I actually really like the feminist movement... *pause* especially when I'm walking behind it"

 

[bigshovel]

Don't worry about feminist, just be more chauvenistic around her, it will drive her crazy, and will eventually try and prove her dominance.

Most girls use feminism as a way to ward off weak men, if you surrcomb to their feminist garb, they know you are weak.

Just be a man, let her preach her ****, and then show her who is boss in the bedroom.

Give her a few good orgasms, and she will drop the feminist garb real qwuik

 

[spider_007]

don't take them serously, you just got to show that you are comforatable in any situation and that your not a sucker (if she trys to stick you with the bill)

 

[BlackJackal]

Originally posted by spider_007
don't take them serously, you just got to show that you are comforatable in any situation and that your not a sucker (if she trys to stick you with the bill)

Yea it aint nothing to me. Just be a man and do what the **** you wanna do. And dont let them make you feel ashamed of wanting to be sexual with women. I know I've never felt that way.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by bigshovel
Don't worry about feminist, just be more chauvenistic around her, it will drive her crazy, and will eventually try and prove her dominance.

haha, I like this guy's answer... I think I'll steal it for myself!

 

[penkitten]

Originally posted by tristan22
There is nothing worse then a female with a powerful job. The woman/minority quotas has got to stop.

Whatever happened to the best person for the job?

i agree with this statement. if you are the best for the job, you should get the damn job. someone with less experience or education or qualifications should not preceed you for the job based on how many gender, or ethinic or race the company has hired. everybody should get an equal chance and it seems that it not equal oppurtunity anymore.

 

[Big Eee Zee]

agreed.


The best way to deal with feminism is a swift kick to the head. Or so I've been told.

 

[Wyldfire]

You can't do much to reform women who already call themselves feminists. You can, however, educate the women who aren't feminists but who have been influenced by feminist messages and talking points. In the tips section Pook made a post I think he titled "Feminism on Trial". He collected a bunch of my rants against feminism and used them in that post. I make a bunch of solid arguments against a lot of the talking points feminists use to bash men. I'm able to silence feminists and have made many women stop and think and see feminism in a different light using those arguments.

 

[Luveno]

Originally posted by tristan22
There is nothing worse then a female with a powerful job. The woman/minority quotas has got to stop.

Whatever happened to the best person for the job?

Amen brotha!

..and I'm a minority!!!

 

[Wyldfire]

Here's the thread I mentioned before. I'm pasting my arguments about feminism as well as the link.
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Let me call another witness: Ms. Wyldfire.

Wyldfire approached the stand. She put her hand on the DJ Bible as the officer said, "Do you swear, above all, to be a Man, to speak the truth of everything woman, to live with no apology, to know what you want and how to get it, and live to the fullest so through Don Juan?”

"I do."

Pook started to ask her about feminism until Wyldfire broke out ranting against it.

"There isn't and never has been any patriarchy....that's a totally bogus concept. True, things were oppressive for women back in the day, but they were also oppressive for men. While women had less choices, men bore the lion's share of the responsibility. The right to vote came at a price...the price of potentially laying down your life to protect this country.

"That was the same price for owning land. There was not all the high tech equipment we have today to help do the majority of the work...it was much harder work and men did almost all of it, and all of the most dangerous. In fairness to women, they didn't have the vacuum cleaners, electric washing machines or microwave ovens, so they worked hard. They were needed at home to keep the home running and the family cared for. It was a full time job. These gender roles were required for survival. It was never some evil plot to hold women down...it was a necessity."

"Your witness."

The feminist roared: "Explain the 'wage gap' then!"

"It's a farce. Feminists claim that women are only paid 74 cents for every dollar a man makes. This angers a lot of women. The figures themselves are correct, but they are not presented truthfully. The numbers represent men and women as a whole, NOT comparing a man and a woman in the same company with the same seniority, same experience and education. Men as a whole will always make more than women as a whole because there are stay at home Moms, wives who only work part time, and women who take time off to have babies. Men also work more overtime and more of the dangerous and higher paying jobs. It is against the law to pay a woman less than a man for the same job, and qualifications...so anyone who believes this feminist lie is not very bright."

"And the glass ceiling?"

"Yes, that proverbial "glass ceiling"! Feminists whine that there aren't enough women in corporate management. HELLO??? Women have only been in the work force with more women working than not for the last 20 years or so. Most corporate managers have put that much time in with the company before getting one of those jobs unless he's a family member of the owner. It's about paying dues and earning those positions, and women will get there as soon as they pay those same dues and invest that same time."

The feminist, defeated, said, "No more questions," and Wyldfire returned to her world.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19193

(the Feminism on Trial thread)