South Carolina officer charged with murder after shooting man in the back

[speed dawg]

but some of you are more concerned about how this story might make white men look.

Some of US?? Take a look at these TITLES Gaylander:

White cop black man

White cop black man

White cop black man

White cop black man

I can go all day, fairy boy. Those are TITLES of articles. If they were fair and balanced, they wouldn't include race in the titles. Who is pushing what agenda again?

How wrong do you want to be today?

 

[Jaylan]

he's gonna be guilty. i think what it all comes down to in the end was what was the thing he planted / threw on the ground. if that was in fact a taser and he tried to plant evidence, i think he gets the needle. if not he'll probably get 2nd degree murder

I still cant see the state killing a cop over this. They'd for sure give a civilian the needle for something similar. But this nation has shown us time and time again that cops dont get the same punishments as the rest of us when they do wrong.

Some of US?? Take a look at these TITLES Gaylander:

White cop black man

White cop black man

White cop black man

White cop black man

I can go all day, fairy boy. Those are TITLES of articles. If they were fair and balanced, they wouldn't include race in the titles. Who is pushing what agenda again?

How wrong do you want to be today?

Again, the titles dont change how people saw the story before the video even came out. http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150404/PC16/150409635 That is local Carolina media not mentioning race in the headline. But even before that, the locals knew the score.

People were making race comments LONG before the national media picked it up. So now its the media's fault for relaying the message people were already saying themselves? The racial angle is touched upon because the public has a habit of viewing things in a particular way based on the race of people involved. The racial angle is touched upon because its too damn common for a white officer to shoot an unarmed black person under suspicious circumstances. Once the video evidence was clear...it shone a light on the idiocy of early doubters and haters who bashed Mr. Scott.

This time though its all on tape. God forbid the media talk about what everyone was already talking about. Its hilarious that you want to flip this story and discussion onto what the media does, when your own first inclination was to incorrectly label Mr. Scott a thug and go the victim blaming route. You didnt care about the facts with that original post you made, you didnt care about the corruption of the two officers on the scene...you simply jumped to the ignorant conclusion that Walter Scott was a thug. Based on what? What evidence was there that he was a thug?

He was simply an old guy, who was down on his luck. He was simply a dude with a history of problems with family court. He didnt sell drugs, gang bang, dress like a hoodlum, go around fighting...none of that. He even served his country as a coast guard. But here you are labeling him a thug based on nothing but him being a black man. And then you had the audacity to feel bad for the sh!t bag cop who freely decided to murder and attempt to frame a dead man. You had the gall to blame the deceased for what the THUG COP chose to criminally do.

And yet, you dare question the media mentioning race? Get the fvk outta here you hypocritical degenerate troll. No one is falling for your deflection tactics. You allowed race to color your perception of the case before knowing all the facts. Though its quite possible you knew the facts and didnt care because of who the victim was and because of who the murderer was.

 

[Stagger Lee]

The witness that recorded the shooting said that Scott and the officer were struggling and were on the ground earlier and that Scott grabbed at the taser, so you can't paint Scott as a total angel.

Witness: Santana said that there was a struggle between Scott and the officer. "They were down on the floor before I started recording," he told Lester Holt.

So what do we have? Two people making poor decisions. But Scott isn't nearly the angel that Jaylan paints him as. Why was he fighting on the ground with the officer? When idiots like Scott fight with cops and sometimes get their gun and shoot officers, is there much wonder why cops in general are quick to shoot?

 

[Jaylan]

The witness that recorded the shooting said that Scott and the officer were struggling and were on the ground earlier and that Scott grabbed at the taser, so you can't paint Scott as a total angel.



So what do we have? Two people making poor decisions. But Scott isn't nearly the angel that Jaylan paints him as. Why was he fighting on the ground with the officer? When idiots like Scott fight with cops and sometimes get their gun and shoot officers, is there much wonder why cops in general are quick to shoot?

More victim blaming. So because there was a struggle on the ground, that automatically means Scott was at fault? I didnt here Santana say that. Were you there as a witness too? Because cops never initiate illegal contact and start struggles huh? Because cops never assault someone and say "stop resisting"? If this was all as simple as saying Scott resisted and made a bad decision, then Slager wouldnt have needed to LIE and PLANT EVIDENCE. He was wrong from the jump...thats why the murderous dog tried to cover his tracks. Luckily he was too stupid to realize people were watching and that in 2015 if someone if watching, someone can be recording.

Santana was an eye witness, and he didnt even lay blame on Scott. He said he read about the police report and knew it was bullsh!t and thats why he came forward. So why are you interpreting a struggle as a way to bash Scott? Scott wasnt struggling with Slager when shot. He was 50 feet away from him with his back turned.

So save your itchy trigger finger rhetoric for idiot bootlickers. Some of you will do anything to blame a dead person when killed by a bad officer (especially if the races of those involved are aligned a particular way).

 

[Stagger Lee]

The point is no one is condoning the officer, but Scott was not the angel you portray and made some bad decision here. You're not fooling anyone. You don't say a peep unless a white cop or person shoots a black person. I posted a similar case where a female cop shot someone and another where a black cop unloaded his gun on a black guy for just getting out of the car and not a peep from you http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2224400&postcount=1.

This time the cop was arrested, fired and being charged with murder. You always say an arrest and charges is sufficient for the time being for every other case of criminal behavior. But now it's not good enough. Everyone knows there are trigger happy cops of all races and both sexes that shoot all races and the government protects them. Why do you think a lot of us criticize the government?

 

[backbreaker]

I don't care if the victim was idi amin lol. There is nothing that happened in the struggle that warrants getting shot in the back 8 times while running away

 

[backbreaker]

well **** lol stop painting all black people as welfare kings and queens, druggies criminals who do nothing but use food stamps to drink malt liquor all day :cuss:

you can't sit here and honestly *****, not you, just in general, about how the media is portraying white cops when half if not all the posts in this forum are about how black people are not as intelligent as white people, how black people are ruining society and how black people are criminals

you're creating the narrative


i'll agree not all cops are bad. I've dealt with police before. I've never had a horrible experience with cops. I've been been given dare i say preferential treatment from cops, i should have at least one DUI lol that the cop was nice enough to just follow me home in his car. But you must also agree that not all black people are criminals

 

[Stagger Lee]

well **** lol stop painting all black people as welfare kings and queens, druggies criminals who do nothing but use food stamps to drink malt liquor all day you can't sit here and honestly *****, not you, just in general, about how the media is portraying white cops when half if not all the posts in this forum are about how black people are not as intelligent as white people, how black people are ruining society and how black people are criminals
:cuss:

I never seen anyone on here say "all". But all of the mainstream media and liberal narrative is that all females and "people of color" are dis
advantaged innocent angels. No one should even challenge that false and sexist/racist liberal narrative because it's not PC?

And when the government takes things from one group and gives it to another, it wouldn't be PC to criticize that either.

In other words, it's not PC to criticize tyranny. That really is tyranny.

 

[Jaylan]

Danger, allow me to touch on your points some in my response to Stagger.

The point is no one is condoning the officer, but Scott was not the angel you portray and made some bad decision here. You're not fooling anyone. You don't say a peep unless a white cop shoots a black suspect. I posted a similar case where a female shot someone and another where a black cop unloaded his gun on a black guy for just getting out of the car and not a peep from you http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpos...00&postcount=1.

Are you stupid? I never posted in that thread, and I was barely posting online around the time that thread was created. I dont care the color of cop, I dislike the corrupt policing in this country that kills people who didnt deserve death (and it happens a lot more to minorities).

Stupid motherfvkers like you dont have sh!t to say about things going on in America unless you can put racial spin on it yourself. Dont project your racial bias onto me. All someone has to do is look at the thread creation history of you and other race trolls to know who has the strong bias here. You never create threads on other sections of the forum, and its rare that you even give dating advice. If anyone looks at your thread creation history, it shows that in the last 2 and a half years, you have only 7 threads created outside of the Anything Else section (thats out of almost 60 created threads) And of these AE threads almost all of them are you b!tching about anyone who isnt a right wing christian white guy. You only give a damn about creating strife here...and only care about victims when you can argue some race angle.

I give a damn whenever corrupt police kill anyone...I dont give a damn if its a black cop, white cop, or asian cop. I posted about Akai Gurley in NYC. He was shot by an asian cop. I have spoke numerous times about Kelly Thomas and Dillon Taylor...white men killed by latino and black officers. You didnt bring up those cases until I or someone else spoke about them. And when you reply in threads about those cases you always spin the discussion and spout off your typical race crap.

This time the cop was arrested, fired and being charged with murder. You always say an arrest and charges is sufficient for the time being. But now it's not good enough. Everyone knows there are trigger happy cops of all races and both sexes that shoot all races and the government protects them. Why do you think a lot of us criticize the government?

I told you before....quote me where I said an arrest and charges are good enough then but not now. Where have I said now that the arrest and charges are not good enough? I have simply said its a good start and that a conviction will be proof of justice. Is that incorrect?

And yeah...a lot of you criticize the government...but spout of racial rhetoric when the government's wrong doings hurt people who are not white males. You always love talking about the so called benefits of being a female or a minority...but love ignoring or spinning the negatives that come with living as a minority or woman in this country. In your ignorant mind things are all great for non white males (which is idiocy)

You always talk about this country not having real equality...yet when these stories hit the news of unarmed citizens being shot dead...all of a sudden you talk of equality... All of a sudden you wanna talk about trigger happy cops coming in all colors and that all people are victims. Thats just your way of ignoring reality and trying to push this idea of situational equality.

Sorry, Im not that easily fooled. Nothing you say changes the fact the the overwhelming majority of cops we see in these cases are white. And it doesnt change the fact that in the overwhelming majority of these cases, the dead citizen is a minority. For every unarmed dead white citizen that you or I can highlight, theres several more unarmed minority citizens who met the same fate.

And for as much as you try to bash me and say I dont care about white victims, I sure mention them a lot more often than you. And I at least know their damn names. Where are your posts about Kelly Thomas, Dillon Taylor, or more recently John Geer and Rebecca Oliver? I posted links about those stories. I discuss them and bring them up.

I talk about those people in my posts. What do you and speeddawg talk about? You make up some false bullsh!t about my not caring about them. You guys care not for the victims, and only care about pushing some false narrative about other posters viewpoints on a forum. I care about all victims of police misbehavior....it just so happens that most victims of bad cops are minorities. So of course thats what you see more of in the news.

White people dont have to worry about making up the majority of their city, but then having a PD filled with non-whites targeting them to boost revenue (Ferguson). Nor is it common for cases like Walter Scott where video catches a black officer in a largely white town murdering and framing a white citizen. Heck, just recently two Philly cops got caught lying about how a man they arrested got beat down so badly (a store video surfaced) If it were not for that video, that man would be in prison for a long time because of lying scumbags who wear badges. Makes me wonder how many people are in prison because of corrupt cops.

If those situations existed where whites were commonly the victim of non-white police abuse I would gladly talk about them...but its not like we have many police forces around the country that are largely black, latino, asian, or anything else not white. The reality is that most cops are white, and most victims of poor cop behavior are non-white. And Im not talking about big baddies who deserved an ass kicking...Im talking about people who didnt deserve the beat down or death they got at the hands of law enforcement.

When non-white officers start showing a pattern of wrongfully assaulting and killing white citizens, then we can draw equivalencies regarding societal and media reactions to these situations. As it stands now, that pattern does not exist. However this country does actually have a strong history of white law enforcement killing unarmed minorities. Take away that historical context, and the society and media reaction would be different.

PS - Don't tell me "no one is condoning the officer" when several posts in this thread did just that. Or did you conveniently miss speeddawg's very first post in this thread where he called Mr. Scott a thug, and blamed Scott for ruining Slager's life. Yeah, Mr. Scott totally forced Slager to commit murder and attempt to cover it up.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Your kind are trying to paint the entire (white) police force as picking on "minorities" to give control of the police to "minorities" and the feds. You're not fooling me with your thinly-veiled black supremacist positions. You don't want me to call a spade a spade, but too bad.

Some local police and local government are not accountable for bad cops and to the local people. That's the real issue. But the feds don't solve anything, just make things worse. It's up to the state and locals to do it. I'll bet you anything that the real reason police have become more militant at departments nationwide was due to federal DOJ input and guidelines.

 

[Jaylan]

Your kind are trying to paint the entire (white) police force as picking on "minorities" to give control of the police to "minorities" and the feds. You're not fooling me with your thinly-veiled black supremacist positions. You don't want me to call a spade a spade, but too bad.

Oh boy, you never cease to amaze with the tactics youll use to avoid addressing someone's points directly. Im loving the idiotic black supremacist accusation:crackup: . Please quote and explain the parts of my post that are anything close to black supremacist.

What is black supremacist about highlighting the fact that most unarmed civilian police shooting situations involved a white cop and a minority civilian? What is black supremacist about highlighting the fact that white communities do not have to deal with a largely non-white police force? What is black supremacist about highlighting cases of corruption such as that Philadelphia frame-up job and the citizen revenue targeting in Ferguson?

Explain it to us all with quotes. Because your lazy spin-doctor replies arent cutting it. Also, did I say an entire police force is bad? Nope. But I am saying that many police officers are bad. And that in a lot of these unarmed killing and corruption cases you will see a white cop and a minority victim. Why does that reality bother you? And how does stating this fact make me a black supremacist. Please quote my previous posts and fully explain your position.

Some local police and local government are not accountable for bad cops and to the local people. That's the real issue. But the feds don't solve anything, just make things worse. It's up to the state and locals to do it. I'll bet you anything that the real reason police have become more militant at departments nationwide was due to federal DOJ input and guidelines.

The locals dont do a goddamn thing when it comes to properly policing their own. The state rarely does a better job, but South Carolina having the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED) take over this case right away is something to praise. I give props to how the local and state law enforcement has handled this as soon as the video came out.

However, fact of the matter is, if local and state PDs and DAs held their officers and officials accountable more often, then there wouldnt be a need for the feds to get involved. But hell, even the feds clear their own law enforcement of wrong doing when caught in a bad situations.

American law enforcement is just corrupt from top to bottom. But hell, so are our politicians too. They are all in bed together. Im just s!ck of this crap and sick of America looking like a joke to the rest of the first world when it comes to how our citizens are treated.

 

[speed dawg]

This time though its all on tape. God forbid the media talk about what everyone was already talking about. Its hilarious that you want to flip this story and discussion onto what the media does, when your own first inclination was to incorrectly label Mr. Scott a thug and go the victim blaming route. You didnt care about the facts with that original post you made, you didnt care about the corruption of the two officers on the scene...you simply jumped to the ignorant conclusion that Walter Scott was a thug. Based on what? What evidence was there that he was a thug?

I still think he was a trouble-making punk, that hasn't changed. Doesn't really fit the definition of a thug, I'll say that. But definitely not innocent, and had a criminal history. I don't give a damn if he was in the coast guard, I know plenty of military sh*t-for-brain retards. He got himself killed by being dumb, get over it. The cop got caught and his family will get a nice settlement. Next hate-whitey story, please.

By the way, looking at your retort to Stagger Lee above this, another legit LOL at you accusing anyone of deflection you f*cking fairy.

 

[Stagger Lee]

.
What is black supremacist about highlighting the fact that most unarmed civilian police shooting situations involved a white cop and a minority civilian?

1. Because it's not true, twice as many whites are killed by police facts-cops-kill-whites-at-almost-double-the-rate-that-cops-kill-blacks/
2. I've pointed out before that "minorities" commit a disproportionate rate of violent crime.
3. Whites being still 62% of the population and an even higher rate of the proportion qualified to be cops means more white cops. Therefore whites will have to shoot more suspects of all races.

There's a reason I post things that you label bigoted or racial. It's to counter all the racial misinformation you spew.

What is black supremacist about highlighting the fact that white communities do not have to deal with a largely non-white police force?

The (partially, almost no place is all white anymore) white communities have plenty of incompetent female and "minority" cops. That's the thing, "minorities" don't want to work in "minority" communities either. They want and get on the gravy departments, leaving the crap departments for whites. How non-white do you want the police to be when whites still make up 62% of the population and "minorities" have trouble meeting the minimum requirements? How many whites have to be discriminated against till the police are composed of the "right" balance?

American law enforcement is just corrupt from top to bottom. But hell, so are our politicians too. They are all in bed together. Im just s!ck of this crap and sick of America looking like a joke to the rest of the first world when it comes to how our citizens are treated.

Most of the rest of the 1st world is not yet made up of a multicultural, diverse mess like the US is. "Diversity" is the real problem in the US.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

More victim blaming. So because there was a struggle on the ground, that automatically means Scott was at fault?

Exactly in what circumstances is it advantageous to get into a physical struggle with a police officer?

 

[Jaylan]

Exactly in what circumstances is it advantageous to get into a physical struggle with a police officer?

Way to clip my post and not read the entire thing, because I already addressed your question. Lemme ask...do cops never assault civilians and initiate struggles? Do cops never jump on top of someone and instinctively yell "stop resisting" even if the person isnt? Do cops never lie on police reports and frame innocent people?

EX officer Slager gets no benefit of the doubt after what hes done. Here's a question...exactly in what circumstances should I believe that a murderous liar did't initiate the physical struggle with the person he killed? Why shouldn't I believe Slager is completely at fault considering his attempted and failed coverup?

1. Because it's not true, twice as many whites are killed by police facts-cops-kill-whites-at-almost-double-the-rate-that-cops-kill-blacks/
2. I've pointed out before that "minorities" commit a disproportionate rate of violent crime.
3. Whites being still 62% of the population and an even higher rate of the proportion qualified to be cops means more white cops. Therefore whites will have to shoot more suspects of all races.

There's a reason I post things that you label bigoted or racial. It's to counter all the racial misinformation you spew.

1. Learn to read with comprehension. I said that in these cases of UNARMED civilians being killed by police, the cases are overwhelmingly white officer - minority victim. And btw minority =/= black only...so why are you so stuck on just black people?

Your own link shows that even if we are not only talking about unarmed deaths, that according to the government statistics minorities are disproportionately killed by officers compared to white civilians. And let me repeat minorities mean ALL non-whites. Plus it makes sense that white, 70% of the population, would make up the majority of police killings.

But it still doesnt explain why a disproportionate amount of minorities (latinos, blacks, etc) are killed by police. And I repeat most UNARMED victims are minorities. Tamir Rice, Jessica Hernandez, John Crawford III, Eric Garner, Akai Gurley, Walter Scott ...etc...all killed in the last year. All unarmed.

Find me as many white UNARMED killings by police. And in all of these situations the police fvked up bad and killed someone who didnt deserve it. There are many more situations like those too. Find me as many stories of white people killed while unarmed in this country in the past year. For every unarmed white person, there's more unarmed minorities killed by cops...and thats a hell of a disproportionate situation.

2. What the hell does the crime rate have to do with this discussion? Is that your excuse any time a policeman acts criminally? Is that your response whenever youre told the fact that abuse and death by cop disproportionately affects non-whites. The fact that many criminals are minorities makes it ok that cops beat and kill a lot of innocent people?

How do you explain the revenue scam by Ferguson PD? What about the Philadelphia man who would have done 5 to 10 years in prison if it werent for a store surveilance tape. Hell, the guy got beat down and put in the hospital, and the cops had the nerve to lie and set him up for prison. How do crime rates explain away such corruption?

3. The point is that whites dont have to deal with non-whites and potential bias from non-white officers policing their neighborhoods. You dont see these stories in the news because they dont exist. And with the way many white cops behave and speak, simply shrugging and saying "whites will shoot more people of all races" is just a crap response.

There are too many instances of white cops getting caught doing discriminatory things. Its become too obvious to many in the country that there is a pattern of poor policing going on. A pattern that negatively impacts minorities at a greater rate and greater severity than it impacts white communities.

The (partially, almost no place is all white anymore) white communities have plenty of incompetent female and "minority" cops. That's the thing, "minorities" don't want to work in "minority" communities either. They want and get on the gravy departments, leaving the crap departments for whites. How non-white do you want the police to be when whites still make up 62% of the population and "minorities" have trouble meeting the minimum requirements? How many whites have to be discriminated against till the police are composed of the "right" balance?

And Im STILL waiting for you to quote and explain how anything I said was black supremacist. And Im still waiting for quotes of where I said arrests and trials were good enough in the past but not now for this case. Im waiting.

How is anything youve just said proof that I am a black supremacist? You made the accusation so prove it. All you are doing is explaining why whites disproportionately make up the bulk of most police forces. And also youre full of sh!t about minority cops. When I visit the places I grew up, many of the cops are minorities. Where the hell do you even live...and where have you even visited where you think you can speak for where minority cops want to work?

Do you talk to law enforcement? huh? Because my father, the attorney, talks to cops all the time. My dad's cousin is a retired IRS agent. He carried a gun and has dealt with all sorts of people in his life. My family is filled with all kinds of people in academia, law, and governmental positions. Youre full of sh!t with this "minorities dont want to be in minority communities" shtick. Many actually want to clean up the places they grew up. You as a white guy should not be as arrogant as to think you can speak for what minorities want.

And again...still waiting for the proof of how anything I said is black supremacist.

Most of the rest of the 1st world is not yet made up of a multicultural, diverse mess like the US is. "Diversity" is the real problem in the US.

Actually parts of Western Europe are very diverse and their cops still dont kill citizens anywhere close to the amount that Americans do.

Anyways, I digress. I must ask myself why I even waste time debating with someone who will either: A) ignore most of what I post and deflect attention onto another issue, or B) make unfounded accusations filled with character attacks and ad hominem.

I should know better. Oh wells

 

[Stagger Lee]

EX officer Slager gets no benefit of the doubt after what hes done. Here's a question...exactly in what circumstances should I believe that a murderous liar did't initiate the physical struggle with the person he killed? Why shouldn't I believe Slager is completely at fault considering his attempted and failed coverup?

Because the cruiser dash cam shows a routine stop. After officer Slager walks back to the cruiser with Scott's driver license, Scott bolts out of the car and runs off. I guess you think since Scott is black and officer Slager is white, Slager should've just asked Scott to come back pretty please with sugar on top.

No one is giving officer Slager the benefit of the doubt for the shooting part.

The rest of your war and peace post would just require me re-explaining what I already explained-minorities commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime, white cops make up most of the police force etc. Research has shown that police are less likely to shoot a minority vs a white under the same circumstances. A disproportionate number of blacks are killed by blacks, at least 40x as many as killed by cops. You should get on that, you disparate impact theorist.

Between 1976 and 2011 across the United States, 7,982 blacks were murdered each year, on average — 94 percent by other blacks, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. About 227 blacks (2.8 percent) were shot by police each year, according to a study by Pro Publica

because more than two-thirds of police officers are white and blacks commit about half of violent crimes, it stands to reason most police shootings would involve a white cop and a black suspect.

Blacks also are more likely than whites, Hispanics or Asians to resist arrest, according to Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute.

Black cops have shot black suspects at essentially the same rate as white cops have, Prof. Klinger’s data indicate. No statistical evidence supports the charge that white cops routinely abuse black suspects


Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...imizing_black_youth_124882.html#ixzz3Wsz85tbx

 

[SamTheHobit]

American cops are the most oppressive institution that exists in the world.

 

[Tictac]

American cops are the most oppressive institution that exists in the world.

Hilarious!

Tomorrow on 'I Haven't A Single Clue' SamTheHobit will discuss.......

 

[speed dawg]

American cops are the most oppressive institution that exists in the world.

Wait, this from a 21 year old South African? I thought you guys in general thought Americans were soft?

 

[Tictac]

Spot on. Only non-Americans understand this statement.

As sarcasm maybe.