"Sexually Invisible?"

[Igetit!]

After some further thought, the only time it's really easy for me to express a sexual side, is if (hypothetically since I've never done this before) I'm paying a hooker because at least you know she expects you to be sexual since you are paying her for something. It's hard to connect this with normal women.
Sometimes you think they just wouldn't understand like a hooker or sexually solicited loose girl in an adult site would.

For me, there is almost like there is never a right or appropriate time to be sexual with a normal girl. If something goes wrong and you it's a wrong time and place, it sounds like a nuclear bomb can go off and destroy your whole life. Look at ElStud for example. He didn't even go sexual, it was just some minor kino and he got kicked out of his campus. Then you got false rape charges and other crap. Being sexual sounds like trouble sometimes.

Luke,you've been here TOO LONG to be this clueless. Hookers? This is just flat out ridiculous. I've never,ever flamed a member here,but with each new reply you post,it's getting harder and harder to resist.

 

[K.Pez]

magickarl - that J story is really good, thanks for sharing that.

it's easy to cure being sexually invisible, it just takes some time... it starts in your mind and with your perception of sex. know that what you feel and what you want is natural and allow yourself to indulge in those sensations. also, know that women feel those same sensations, but society has a stigma that if they indulge in those feelings they are "sluts." many women want to be sexual, but don't often have an opportunity to. so give them that opportunity. there is nothing wrong with being sexual - it is the way all humans were meant to be.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Luke,you've been here TOO LONG to be this clueless. Hookers? This is just flat out ridiculous. I've never,ever flamed a member here,but with each new reply you post,it's getting harder and harder to resist.

I don't think it's ridiculous -- they don't have this slvt complex that normal girls have when you try to get sexual with them and they think they are too easy if the respond back or something...what is it called, last minute resistance or something? Because they are already hors or slvts and are proud of it those sort of issues aren't there. Try to be sexual with a normal girl WITHOUT making them feel like a slvt, easy girl or hor, that's more of a challenge.

When you try to get sexual with a girl: a) you may get rejected
b) she may think you believe she is too easy and get offended, or
c) you may open a legal pandora's box if you do this with the wrong girl at the wrong time.

Call me paranoid, but I usually associate being sexual = trouble. If I mention hooker/easy-girl that's because there are mutual expectations of sex that are already understood, with a normal girl, it still seems like a pandora's box.

 

[Alexander the Great]

You know what the problem for sexually invisible guys is? You're afraid to do the Manly thing and simply be who you are. You worry too much about what other people think about you when you boldly display your sexual desires. You worry too much about what a girl/woman would think about you if you simply showed what you wanted: her.

"OMG. I can't kiss her/talk sexually to her! What will she/they think of me? She'll think I'm a filthy, creepy, dirty geezer who wants to do sleezy stuff!"

It's the Male Anti-Slut Defense: Afraid to be labelled "dirty".

Another variation, if you're kissing and trying to escalate:
"OMG. She's putting up resistance! I'm not doing it right! She thinks I think she's a slut, a wh*re! Easy! Oh no!"

Really, no woman thinks that (if she does, she's abnormal). They only pretend to think that and hope you'll see through that. Really. That, or you have to turn her on more first.

What you have to realize, if not experience, is that women WANT you to be sexual with them if they like you. Yes, they'll put up this front if you make a sexual remark: "OMG, how dare you think of me that way! I'm a decent girl!" The same decent girl will lick clean the pole of the guy who did have the balls to act sexual to her. If I got a dime for every time a girl told me that line whenever I made a sexual hint or joke or acted sexual to her, I'd be rich aside from being sexually satisfied.

Guys, really, screw perception of you. You shouldn't care less about what they'll think about you. That's the whole point! It's what being a Man is all about. What women will say to you when you show your sexual desire for them is the famous Female Anti-Slut defense, as you so correctly assert. But it's not a complex.

When they say they're "decent", they really don't mean to say that they don't like sex or that you are dirty for being sexual. They just can't admit to you that they want you to rip their clothes off on the spot and they yours. It's not "proper" for them to do that. This is culturally engrained. That's indeed the difference with hookers. Hookers are sexually free, because they already have that "stigma". Regular women will do anything to AVOID such a stigma. That's it. But secretly, they get their panties wet and are waiting for YOU to lead them somewhere and have depraved sex with them. Well, sex anyway.

A woman who TRULY MEANS it when she says she's a "decent girl", if she at all exists (sadly they do), is a sexually inhibited woman. Get out now. She'll only break your confidence with her anti-sex remarks and will make you indeed feel dirty and depraved for having healthy desires. It takes a master to break barriers with such women. But note that these women are exceptions to the rule.

Just... be sexual. Don't be that self-proclaimed Male Anti-Slut. Just do it. Break through that fear of being seen of as dirty. So what? Break through that fear of being rejected for your sexual advances. Just go out there and seduce a girl. They want you to. They want you to take the risk, because they're afraid to. Stop posting about it on a forum. Please. You're simply over-analyzing it.

Of course, this does not include rape or being sexual out of the blue! This is all assuming you DO know how to get rapport with a woman FIRST, so your sexual innuendo isn't completely misplaced. Apparently some of you are now afraid to be sexual because somebody got a girl on a campus calling security on him. That guy either messed up and did not do things as he should have, or the girl was just one of those "decent" women who felt offended for being approached by someone she didn't like. A prude perhaps.

Please refer to the DJ Bible, the Touching section especially, for more information if so needed. For your sake, please! And some of you please get laid with a girl who likes you instead of a hooker. It makes all the difference in your sexual confidence.

Stop being afraid of being a Man and showing your desire. It's your nature. Screw people, feminists, who try to tell you otherwise.

Good luck. Remember that you create it, nothing or nobody does it for you.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Alright, Alexander_the_Great, that is a very insightful post.

I'll be honest. When I use my fleshlight and fantasize about some girls I do have a rapport with, I often fantasize they secretly want to fvck me and do them doggie-style or whatever and see my skin colour contrast with theirs while doing them.

This is what is used to feed the fantasy-masturbation-fleshlight machine is the fantasy assumption -- virtually what you just wrote here -- that if I was magically some sort of different type of person (i.e. no religious sexual issues, player, able to break through, etc...) that such fantasies could be true. The best masturbation experiences are with women I have a nice rapport with and think, what if.

So, in my "sex fantasy world" it would appear like what you are saying about women, that secretly they want it, etc... and I could be the lucky one.

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That being said, there is still the issue of Maxtro's threads. You'll notice that he got friendzoned. If he tried to be sexual earlier he would be rejected. His threads illustrate how cruel women are in his world to his sexuality because his only success has been with hookers, loose-girls from AFF, and he keeps striking out with normal girls. Either they don't notice him at all, and if he's lucky enough to get somewhere, then he just hits that friendzone wall or gets rejected. I guess I'm looking at other people's tracts, but I would like to hear what your opinion is about that and expressing sexuality. At least, Maxtro's case would be a real case of "sexual invisibility" in his environment.

Sometimes I feel like Maxtro, but I also have to make concessions for my
religious beliefs and attitudes against sex since I take them seriously so it's not fair to be harsh with women for rejecting me sexually if I hold on to these beliefs at the same time - it's actually insane.

I tend to gravitate towards extremes (hookers, loose girls) because I can't handle my own "automatic" anti-slvt defence and another girl's anti-slvt defence at the same time -- it's overload. That's why the "hooker/easy-girl" avenue just means issues are just kept to an internal debate about sexuality and what my boundaries are in an extreme simplified sort of way. (i.e. it may appear easier to pay a hooker or look for a freaky girl from an adult site and sit with a naked woman in the same room while just staring at her terrified about touching her and seeing how far you would go with your own boundaries than doing that with a normal woman). I thought you should at least have your boundary issues sorted out before dealing with a normal woman, but hey, maybe I'm wrong.

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Anyway, for the record, I'm seeing a WARPIG-FUG that's coming in from North Manitoba next week. She is crazy about me. If I can stand her appearance and smell, then maybe I'll see what I can do with her. I'd feel guilty about getting her hopes up if I'm not really in love with her though. Oh well, guess I'll decide when it comes. I will not take myself seriously about sexual invisibility if I do nothing with her though.

 

[pua1989]

hahaha, ok ok i guess primal wasnt a really good word for it. the only way i can describe this "inner-game" towards women is that its almost intoxicating when you look back on it..as if you go into autopilot mode and everything falls into place. it is actually quite euphoric

 

[Maxtro]

About 9 or 10 years ago,I was engaged. (Yes guys,I was engaged).

Was engaged eh? I'm guessing you're in your 30's.

Sucks that it happened that way. I guess that it is something that some men have to go through to understand. I can probably say that I'm lucky that I went through it with a girl that I was only friends with and knew for less than a year.

I do wonder how you even managed to get engaged to a girl who didn't see your sexual side. Did you ever sleep with her?

So hes calling J every name in the book, and J just turns his back to him and starts hollering and some girl. Dylan shoves him in the back, and J just turns around and belts the guy in his mouth. Laid him the **** out! J lost his virginity that night.

That's a fucken awesome story. It looks like J's life could be a decent "High School coming of age" movie.

So the process did take a while.The first step was to stop giving a shit. That was his coping method because of how his life was. It's not something that could be reproduced though. Everybody responds differently.

women feel those same sensations, but society has a stigma that if they indulge in those feelings they are "sluts." many women want to be sexual, but don't often have an opportunity to. so give them that opportunity. there is nothing wrong with being sexual - it is the way all humans were meant to be.

Yeah women are just as horny as men. But because of society it is the mans job to draw that hornyness out of her. Some women may be liberal with their sexuality but it's usually 99% the mans job to let her express her self. It must also be done with tact.

Great post Alexander the Great

That being said, there is still the issue of Maxtro's threads. You'll notice that he got friendzoned. If he tried to be sexual earlier he would be rejected. His threads illustrate how cruel women are in his world to his sexuality because his only success has been with hookers, loose-girls from AFF, and he keeps striking out with normal girls. Either they don't notice him at all, and if he's lucky enough to get somewhere, then he just hits that friendzone wall or gets rejected. I guess I'm looking at other people's tracts, but I would like to hear what your opinion is about that and expressing sexuality. At least, Maxtro's case would be a real case of "sexual invisibility" in his environment.

You are correct that if I had tried to be sexual earlier with her I would most likely have been rejected. But what would make things interesting is that I most likely would have still hung out with her. The difference is that she would actually know that I'm interested in her. Since she already would have known that I liked her, I wouldn't have had to hide my sexuality and I would have been far more flirty with her. If I wasn't hiding my sexuality till the very end things may have turned out very different for us.

It's kind of funny that after all the shit I went through I'm now completely ready to be flirty and show her my sexuality. But since we had that stupid ass fight there is no point. I’m actually a different person now, but I can’t simply rewind things and try again.

But I have learned my lesson and I will be far more sexual with every girl from now on.

BTW I don’t not think women are cruel. OK maybe they were cruel to me all the way through Jr. High, when I wasn’t afraid to show my sexuality back then but that was the past and they were simply immature little girls. All of my friendzone problems that started to happen to me since I was 20 were because I was afraid to show my sexuality. Epiphany! The reason I have been hiding my sexuality from girls these recent years, was because of all the girls that rejected my advances from when I was 13-18. I learned that showing (or telling) a girl that I liked her made her dislike me. In order to cope and not get hurt by women I started to hide my sexuality and became the buddy. Hiding my sexuality was a learned behavior to avoid pain. And now I must unlearn it.

Anyway, for the record, I'm seeing a WARPIG-FUG that's coming in from North Manitoba next week. She is crazy about me. If I can stand her appearance and smell, then maybe I'll see what I can do with her. I'd feel guilty about getting her hopes up if I'm not really in love with her though. Oh well, guess I'll decide when it comes. I will not take myself seriously about sexual invisibility if I do nothing with her though.

From the way you describe the situation. It doesn’t sound like a good idea. Also what the fuck does love have to do with it?

Luke I really think you should go to a strip club one that is fully nude and get a lap dance or two. You need something to kick you into gear.

 

[Lexington]

i disagree with most of you people. i feel as though there is a way to indirectly project your sexuality (get hobbies, become indemand, get horny around girls, etc) and directly project your sexuality.

obviously, its quite easy to start what i call indirectly projecting your sexuality, but there have been only a _few_, very _few_ occasions where i can remember directly projecting my sexuality. what i mean by this is, i can literally remember myself (as i mentioned above) going primal, and the girls had no chance to not hook up with me. i cant explain it, and i dont want to come off as the all time best pua in the world (because i am very far from that) but looking back on these few occasions, i truly believe i was secreting my body's natural pheromones or something chemical, because it literally just worked for the girls. it was almost magical. almost like that thing in one of the ocean's twelve or ocean's thirteen movie the gilroy. (i dont know if its pheromones or something but it was really powerful) i am still trying to come up with how to keep doing this, and im sure a lot of you guys have felt the same thing at one point in time. im sorry if this is vague, but i swear these few times have been so weird when i look back on them because i didnt really mean to do it consciously, it was all subconscious; and same for the girl, it was subconscious for her as well.

I'm not sure if it's pheromones, but when you're horny, girls will pick up on it. It will show through your eyes, your body language and your tone of voice. This is great because you can talk about non sexual things but the girl will feel horny. What's more, she'll think that the horniness she feels is of her own making.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

From the way you describe the situation. It doesn’t sound like a good idea. Also what the fuck does love have to do with it?

I think nature will take it's course. It is my own policy to encourage her, and beyond that, just let nature take it's course. I don't have any specific agenda with her other than to go out and making someone's march break or trip here enjoyable. Whether or not we actually get along is another story. There is usually a poor tract record where I girl will see that I'm distant towards her, or there is a nasty crash and burn somewhere. As I said before on another thread I'm looking to get assessed by a professional.

Luke I really think you should go to a strip club one that is fully nude and get a lap dance or two. You need something to kick you into gear.

I don't see how that would work. I've already identified my own personal issues and do not feel that this will be helpful. There is no issues of being rejected by people at work primarily because I'm cancelling dates or am half-hearted in my own approach.

I need some hard evidence that I'm really unhappy or discontent with my lot in life as far as women are concerned, where it's not my fault and it's because of the women, before I go that far and allow any self-pity to allow myself to go to a strip club. I have no mercy on myself in the meantime.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Holy Jesus!!!

OP, You just solved my last major problem. I know what it is and what I can do about it!


Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!

 

[Maxtro]

I think nature will take it's course. It is my own policy to encourage her, and beyond that, just let nature take it's course. I don't have any specific agenda with her other than to go out and making someone's march break or trip here enjoyable. Whether or not we actually get along is another story. There is usually a poor tract record where I girl will see that I'm distant towards her, or there is a nasty crash and burn somewhere. As I said before on another thread I'm looking to get assessed by a professional.

I don't know if it's because it's late but I don't have a clue what you just said.

I don't see how that would work. I've already identified my own personal issues and do not feel that this will be helpful. There is no issues of being rejected by people at work primarily because I'm cancelling dates or am half-hearted in my own approach.

I need some hard evidence that I'm really unhappy or discontent with my lot in life as far as women are concerned, where it's not my fault and it's because of the women, before I go that far and allow any self-pity to allow myself to go to a strip club. I have no mercy on myself in the meantime.

Once again pretty much the same thing.

The reason I'm suggesting a strip club is so that you can see the sexual beings that women really are. It may change your thought process. It has nothing to do with self pity. I think it's something that every man should do.

Go and don't tell your parent's about it.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I don't know if it's because it's late but I don't have a clue what you just said.

Fine. I'm saying is that there is no worst case scenerio with that girl. I want things to go naturally. That's my style. I'm totally inexperienced anyway, what do I have to lose.

Once again pretty much the same thing.

The reason I'm suggesting a strip club is so that you can see the sexual beings that women really are. It may change your thought process. It has nothing to do with self pity. I think it's something that every man should do.

Go and don't tell your parent's about it.

I understand fully well this strip club concept, and would like to go -- except -- it's one of them things I consider one of my last resorts before a further last resort.

That is, if I want to see a naked woman, then I should try my best to seduce a NORMAL girl and get her to strip for me with some music if that's what I really want to pursue rather than going to a strip club where everyone is on it for the money. You get the drift. I just see these things as a cop-out. I don't want to be resorting to certain things unless I've put in a real good effort, because then it makes you lazy and spoiled.

Right now, I look at porn on occasion (softcore), and just had a virtual porn-bath last week (temporary lifted restrictions) -- that was the last resort last week for making a real solid effort in February, 2009 to get a girlfriend, or connection at my office. I almost succeeded, but I had to deal with my dad in some car rental and ended up cancelling on her. That got me pissed and I neg-scored it on that. However, I've later come to realize that I had a deep seated fear with this girl and subconciously I probably liked the fact there was a cogent excuse that I felt I had no choice but to succumb under.

You know what Maxtro -- I've found out that maybe I really do have a deep seated fear of being close to a woman and this is subconciously manifesting itself where I end up finding comfortable excuses to cancel dates and what not. To me, this is more important to deal with and find out if there are other "personality issues" involved with this, then going to a strip club.
That would require councilling to do a personality test to see if I fit into an eccentric type (schizoid, schizotypal or paranoid) or an anxiety-fearful type (dependent, avoidant --) disorder and see what exactly is wrong....that's dealing with a problem...not going to a strip club.

In my 'sexual fantasy world' it could be assumed that women are sexual. I can feel vibes sometimes, those vibes interact with my imagination to create a rich masturbation of hypothetical scenerios of an alter-ego player identify of myself. But a strip-club is just another form of prostitution. It doesn't show women are more sexual. It just shows they would get naked for money. They already do that in porn.

I'm also a Christian and have an image to uphold to people outside. Wouldn't that hurt my testimony of being a good Christian if I start getting sexual with a girl that knows I'm a Christian? Again, unlike slickaz or other people who are Christians on one hand and players on the other, I'm very serious about my faith and remaining authentic, at least in the face of other people -- but paradoxically, that requires that I'm also asexual too. Confusing. It's like I have to be a cold fish asexual until I marry someone - but hey that's the way it is. My source of discontentment, if any, appears to be a deep seated fear of women and desire of intimacy with them.

 

[The Logical Player]

is there a way to make sure I dont see mention of a fleshlight ever again on a supposed DON JUAN forum??

because it makes me sick the way this 33 yr old virgin throws the Fleshlight word around so carelessly, despite being utterly clueless and hopeless (by his own choosing) with an ACTUAL woman

 

[Maxtro]

Fine. I'm saying is that there is no worst case scenerio with that girl. I want things to go naturally. That's my style. I'm totally inexperienced anyway, what do I have to lose.

You're right you have nothing to lose. Just don't lie to yourself or her and try to have fun.

I understand fully well this strip club concept, and would like to go -- except -- it's one of them things I consider one of my last resorts before a further last resort.

At one point in time I considered a strip club as a last resort. Then I realized that it might be a long time till I see a real naked girl so I went to one last Thursday. It helped to remind myself what women really are. There is a huge difference form seeing a naked girl on your monitor vs. one in real life.

BTW there is also a real difference between seeing a woman naked on a stage and having one be intimate with you. Don't think that seeing a naked girl at a strip club is cheating you out of something. BTW have you ever seen a real naked woman?

You know what Maxtro -- I've found out that maybe I really do have a deep seated fear of being close to a woman and this is subconciously manifesting itself where I end up finding comfortable excuses to cancel dates and what not. To me, this is more important to deal with and find out if there are other "personality issues" involved with this, then going to a strip club.

If that's the case, then the best way to get over your fear is to expose yourself to it in a controlled environment. Most strippers are real nice and they try to calm you down. As long as you understand that they only really want your money you can use that to your advantage. Just be polite and try to have a conversation. Getting a lap dance is like a preview of what it's like to be sexual with a girl, the only difference is that you can't touch them.

In all honesty I doubt it can do any harm. Just don't make sure to get too crazy with your money.

I'm also a Christian and have an image to uphold to people outside. Wouldn't that hurt my testimony of being a good Christian if I start getting sexual with a girl that knows I'm a Christian? Again, unlike slickaz or other people who are Christians on one hand and players on the other, I'm very serious about my faith and remaining authentic, at least in the face of other people -- but paradoxically, that requires that I'm also asexual too. Confusing. It's like I have to be a cold fish asexual until I marry someone - but hey that's the way it is. My source of discontentment, if any, appears to be a deep seated fear of women and desire of intimacy with them.

When religions starts getting in the way of how you want to live your life it's doing more harm then good. I'm not going to have a discussion on religion. The only other thing I'm going to say is that, nobody cares if you are a good Christian boy or not.

Don't let what you perceive peoples beliefs about you to affect you.

 

[Alle_Gory]

is there a way to make sure I dont see mention of a fleshlight ever again on a supposed DON JUAN forum??

because it makes me sick the way this 33 yr old virgin throws the Fleshlight word around so carelessly, despite being utterly clueless and hopeless (by his own choosing) with an ACTUAL woman

Do you believe in survival of the fittest and natural selection?

Well right here is proof if you don't.

When religions starts getting in the way of how you want to live your life it's doing more harm then good. I'm not going to have a discussion on religion. The only other thing I'm going to say is that, nobody cares if you are a good Christian boy or not.

Don't let what you perceive peoples beliefs about you to affect you.

You're talking to a slave about freedom. Dude, don't bother.

When and if he wants to free himself and be an individual is when you should help.


In the meantime, lets get back to what this thread is supposed to be about.

 

[librito]

when it comes to sex my philosophy is very simple..."women are bictches and men are dogs" its that simple, and by being that way we have being able to survive for billions of years on planet earth. sex is not that complicated once you start acting as if nature is calling you to do it. animals dont talk about it and they do it,,why do we have to invent and create thousands of theories and ideas in order to get our penis inside vaginas? women are complicated, yes I know...but if you act sexual with all the women you meet in the future you are bound to get laid sooner than later.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

At one point in time I considered a strip club as a last resort. Then I realized that it might be a long time till I see a real naked girl so I went to one last Thursday. It helped to remind myself what women really are. There is a huge difference form seeing a naked girl on your monitor vs. one in real life.

I've studied female anatomy very intensively the past few days and can virtually name all the parts of a woman, ****orus hood, ****orus, vaginal opening, urethra, perinium (skin between vagina bottom and anus), mons pubis, inner labia, outer labia, hymen (on virgins), etc... and look at softcore porn to look at variations of the vulva on various women. Breasts are an easy thing.

It all depends on your state of mind when viewing pics. Sometimes it could be pretty real. As of lately, I've been really throrough with naked pics in analyzing them. Of course, sometimes I just enjoy watching outdoor softcore porn with classical music and watching the people smile on camara and look like they are having fun in outdoor scenes. Again, this is very controlled (i.e. less than 9 minutes of time in a week-day and Saturday in the afternoon, or evening) to ensure there is no porn-addiction.

BTW there is also a real difference between seeing a woman naked on a stage and having one be intimate with you. Don't think that seeing a naked girl at a strip club is cheating you out of something. BTW have you ever seen a real naked woman?

I'm not sure if it's bothering me to a great extent that I've never seen a naked woman in real life before. In the event that it is, then I should mention it to the girl that's crazy about me that's coming down next week. If I don't have resolve to see a naked woman that I cant ask a woman who professes to love me and is crazy about meeting me again, then I guess I really don't care about seeing a naked woman in real life. Why would I need to go to a strip club then?

The only other thing I'm going to say is that, nobody cares if you are a good Christian boy or not.

Don't let what you perceive peoples beliefs about you to affect you.

I'll keep that in mind. This is very confusing with me. But I'll keep it in mind.

 

[mothballs]

Luke, you really seem to have trouble understanding that there is a fundamental difference between seeing and doing. It's really that simple. Until you've seen and touched a real naked woman... you'll have no idea what you're missing. Also, professional porn at any rating level is highly inaccurate... the tits are mostly fake, the sounds not real, everything is out of proportion and it makes it seem like only "attractive" people get laid. If you want to see what real sex is about start looking for amateur porn... the real dresser cam stuff between average couples.

 

[pua1989]

OK, to go back on topic:

I'm not sure if it's pheromones, but when you're horny, girls will pick up on it. It will show through your eyes, your body language and your tone of voice. This is great because you can talk about non sexual things but the girl will feel horny. What's more, she'll think that the horniness she feels is of her own making.

thats a perfect explanation. last night, i was at some party. there was this girl there who i knew before i started getting involved with women...i always have a hard time hookin up with girls that ive known for a long time, back when i was an "AFC" (i hate using all these PUA vocab words). anyway, last night, i brought her to the corner of the room and just got horny. everything i said wasnt even about anything important..it was just the fact that i was horny and that i wanted to bone. worked out very well for me last night

 

[Maxtro]

when it comes to sex my philosophy is very simple..."women are bictches and men are dogs" its that simple, and by being that way we have being able to survive for billions of years on planet earth. sex is not that complicated once you start acting as if nature is calling you to do it. animals dont talk about it and they do it,,why do we have to invent and create thousands of theories and ideas in order to get our penis inside vaginas? women are complicated, yes I know...but if you act sexual with all the women you meet in the future you are bound to get laid sooner than later.

You know why there are complicated theories and ideas about how to get women? I have a few reasons.

1. It's because human females don't go into heat. The vast majority of female animals have a time when they are ready to get pregnant and they have ways of letting every male in their vicinity know. All the males then rush over and compete to have sex with her.

Instead of going into heat human females are able to mate whenever they want. But there really isn't a time when they need to get laid. Many women are fine going without sex.

2. Human society makes it complicated. Women are not allowed to be as free with their sexuality as they would like to. The way society is, it makes sex very complicated for men and women. The fact that rape is illegal greatly increases the difficulty in getting laid. Animals have no such rules about rape.

3. Men have emotions. We can get hurt and scared. Our past experiences trying to get sex can leave us emotionally wounded. The scars from our past can make it more difficult to pursue sex in the future. Hence the "sexually invisible"

I've studied female anatomy very intensively the past few days and can virtually name all the parts of a woman, ****orus hood, ****orus, vaginal opening, urethra, perinium (skin between vagina bottom and anus), mons pubis, inner labia, outer labia, hymen (on virgins), etc... and look at softcore porn to look at variations of the vulva on various women. Breasts are an easy thing.

I can look at pictures and manuals about helicopters all day long but I'm still not going to know a damn thing about them until I'm actually in one and try to fly it.

Unless you're studying for sexual anatomy test I don't see a point in naming all the parts.

I'm not sure if it's bothering me to a great extent that I've never seen a naked woman in real life before. In the event that it is, then I should mention it to the girl that's crazy about me that's coming down next week. If I don't have resolve to see a naked woman that I cant ask a woman who professes to love me and is crazy about meeting me again, then I guess I really don't care about seeing a naked woman in real life. Why would I need to go to a strip club then?

Please do not tell her that it bothers you that you have never seen a real naked woman. Her getting naked is something that should happen naturally.

Either way you are making this issue more complicated then it is.

I'll keep that in mind. This is very confusing with me. But I'll keep it in mind.

Do some research on the "looking class self" I'll start you off here

There are three main components of the looking-glass self (Yeung, et al. 2003).

1. We imagine how we must appear to others.
2. We imagine the judgment of that appearance.
3. We develop our self through the judgments of others.