"Romantic Rivalry" ??

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IF you are good and a catch....then you should have no issues attracting REAL DJs (very few of those in their 20s).

How old are you? You don't have to tell me your exact age...I don't care if you are under 25 to be honest with you. In fact, you don't have to give me your exact age...are you in your MID 20s or LATE 20s?
 

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Latino,
I think Iqqi's issue is not 'attracting' but not 'being Attracted' to certain guys.
I'm sure she can get a guy, but she doesn't seem to be getting the guy that she REALLY wants.
And since she mentioned the age thing, my guess is that she is attracting younger and immature wannabes, with no formed personality or character, which are actually turning her off. Just MHO
 

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Latino,
I think Iqqi's issue is not 'attracting' but not 'being Attracted' to certain guys.
I'm sure she can get a guy, but she doesn't seem to be getting the guy that she REALLY wants.
And since she mentioned the age thing, my guess is that she is attracting younger and immature wannabes, with no formed personality or character, which are actually turning her off. Just MHO
I agree with you. And by her own admission...she is hanging with VERY YOUNG (immature) people.
 

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Latino,
I think Iqqi's issue is not 'attracting' but not 'being Attracted' to certain guys.
I'm sure she can get a guy, but she doesn't seem to be getting the guy that she REALLY wants.
And since she mentioned the age thing, my guess is that she is attracting younger and immature wannabes, with no formed personality or character, which are actually turning her off. Just MHO
This is true. I do attract a lot of young guys, because they think I am their age.

I am in my later 20's now. :)

Crush guy is almost 30. That is SO HOT to me. One INSTANT TURN ON for me is when a man I just met tells me he is my age or older! Its like an extra 10 points.
 

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Latinoman said:
I agree with you. And by her own admission...she is hanging with VERY YOUNG (immature) people.
I hang out with people of all ages. It is how I was raised. The girl in question IS young, but she is very mature in other ways, more so than many chicks my age that I grew up with.

As a child, my mother didn't treat me like a child. I was never "filtered", and hung out with her friends. Age ceased to mean much to me.

I like that about me, honestly.

And many people my age and older are just as "young and dumb" as a 20 year old.
 

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iqqi, this is why women friends suck!
oh, the evil that a girl friend possesses.

the old saying goes, "men never trust anyone around his gal except his best friend but a woman trusts anyone around her man except her best friend."

the average woman will only ever meet two or three real friends that would never dare steal her man, or her limelight.
how do we learn which kind of friend some other chick is? we take them out and they stab us in the back, the heart or the stomach.

why? because they seek the attention, they want their cake , and our cake too.

a very long time ago , i decided no one else was going to ever eat my share of cake again. i stopped having secret crushes and letting my so called girlfriends take them in the blink of an eye.

i decided to be more assertive so that the guy would know i liked him .

your friend told you she never had many girlfriends over the years, because after she took their men , they didn't want to be her friend any more.

men will always say "bros before hoes " but women never instituted such an honor code. some of us abide by the morally right thing to do, but yet we still have to coexist in the world with the rest of the witches.

by the time that you get to the point where your friend is handing out her number to your crush, an email to rehash it all, well, it just strokes her ego. it makes her feel like she won a competition because the guy asked for her number and not yours. then she will have to tell you that she won't go out with him for you. (like you are some pitiful raggamuffin that can't land a guy and has hurt feelings.) NO!!! you can not allow her to go there. you can not let her say that she won't do something to spare your feelings. that will put her into the spot of where she thinks she is the better friend, which she is clearly not. friendship should be equal, not one friend better than another.

i think at this point, if he was just drunk and horny and asking for her number, i would smile and step back. let them do their thing. sooner or later, one of them will drop the other, and if you still like him at that point, you can decide what direction to take.
 

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Thanks Penny, many women are nothing more than insecure vultures.

I've been fortunate to have great female friends, who even though they have some other issues, have never tried to betray me.

I really DON'T think that she is doing it intentionally. On the other hand, I DO have to consider the fact that she has never had female friends.

Also, you are spot on in this assessment:

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it makes her feel like she won a competition because the guy asked for her number and not yours. then she will have to tell you that she won't go out with him for you. (like you are some pitiful raggamuffin that can't land a guy and has hurt feelings.) NO!!! you can not allow her to go there. you can not let her say that she won't do something to spare your feelings.
It DOES p!ss me off that she would now have to say this to me. It really really irks me, because the ONLY reason she got the # (in both cases) was because she was easy! I don't compete with loose women, and I don't compete with friends.

So that riles me up a little. :mad:
 

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penkitten said:
iqqi, this is why women friends suck!
oh, the evil that a girl friend possesses.

the old saying goes, "men never trust anyone around his gal except his best friend but a woman trusts anyone around her man except her best friend."

the average woman will only ever meet two or three real friends that would never dare steal her man, or her limelight.
how do we learn which kind of friend some other chick is? we take them out and they stab us in the back, the heart or the stomach.

why? because they seek the attention, they want their cake , and our cake too.

a very long time ago , i decided no one else was going to ever eat my share of cake again. i stopped having secret crushes and letting my so called girlfriends take them in the blink of an eye.

i decided to be more assertive so that the guy would know i liked him .

your friend told you she never had many girlfriends over the years, because after she took their men , they didn't want to be her friend any more.

men will always say "bros before hoes " but women never instituted such an honor code. some of us abide by the morally right thing to do, but yet we still have to coexist in the world with the rest of the witches.

by the time that you get to the point where your friend is handing out her number to your crush, an email to rehash it all, well, it just strokes her ego. it makes her feel like she won a competition because the guy asked for her number and not yours. then she will have to tell you that she won't go out with him for you. (like you are some pitiful raggamuffin that can't land a guy and has hurt feelings.) NO!!! you can not allow her to go there. you can not let her say that she won't do something to spare your feelings. that will put her into the spot of where she thinks she is the better friend, which she is clearly not. friendship should be equal, not one friend better than another.

i think at this point, if he was just drunk and horny and asking for her number, i would smile and step back. let them do their thing. sooner or later, one of them will drop the other, and if you still like him at that point, you can decide what direction to take.

I agree with you Penkitten, but iqqi will never listen. This girl could hit on any number of other guys at the venue but she zeros in on iqqi's target. And iqqi thinks her friend doesn't mean to do it:rolleyes: .The only thing I will say is that a lot of guy "friends" will doublecross his friend over girls as much or more as girls will. Most guys are so desperate for some action they'll do anything to get one even if it means c0ckblocking and betraying a friend.
 

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If a man picks a loose woman over a good one...then that dude is not worthy as bad judgment is a HUGE character flaw in a man.
 

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Insightful post, penny. A little sad actually, but very deep and insightful.

But I have always maintained that the people you hang around with either bring you down, or take you up.
If you have high charater, thenyou will not settle for les, and you will eventually one day ONLY associate with people of high character JUST LIKE YOU.

Epictus stated "Character is Destiny."

Dr. Paul often states that quote.
ITs true.

the level of Charcater determines your success. now, success defintions differ.
So you can be a rich ass hole, and a poor Saint.

But a positive, ethical, shrewd, and considerate mind set of Abundance will make the difference whether you are rich or poor. In your mind you will always be happy, and content, so you will always FEEL successful, even if its not up to OTHER peopels standards
Although it is also unlikely that if you have all those qulaities and more, than you will be poor. That i the good thing about that too.




People of high character will find each other.
You will eventually FIND the people who have same values as you.
If they dont have the same values as you, then you sholud IMHO evaluate why youre around them.

There is sooooooooo much to talk about with this Topic alone, it is staggering.
And yes, it applies to Women also.

Penny has often stated that she believes that Men, as partners, should have high character and bring their women up, in the sense of being a role model and leading by example.
Many women admire high character, because they feel that their men will be Go Getters,and make things happen. They will be SUCCESSFUL.
We would love that our partners be inspiring and motivating, interesting, and we can learn from them.
I think for many Women , this rings especially true.
 

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then don't let her go there, just going to have to tell her that it is ok for her to go out with him that he is a really "nice" guy.
i can not believe you never had a girlfriend steal your thunder before.
i know chicks that have walked into their own bedrooms to find their very own sister sucking their very own husbands joystick.
that is what leads so many women to b*tching so much about their men, so that no one else will steal them.
how ridiculous is this concept?
 

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But I have always maintained that the people you hang around with either bring you down, or take you up.
If you have high charater, thenyou will not settle for les, and you will eventually one day ONLY associate with people of high character JUST LIKE YOU.

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People of high charater will find each other.
You will eventually FIND the people who have same values as you.
See, I believe this too.

And also, people ARE drawn to me, and with her, I was drawn to HER, I feel like we have many of the same values and outlooks.

And in that sense, I think that maybe my role is to be the higher character that takes her up to where she should be.

Do I sound full of myself, lol? :whistle:

No, I mean it though. I've had many people in my life who told me I changed them for the better. That they are better people solely due to my influence.

She has a LOT of potential. AND I am pretty sure she truly values my friendship.

Its that insecure little demon inside of her that is ruining everything!!! :woo:

I think my next post might be on the sadistic siren.

I have one inside, too.
 

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Latinoman said:
If a man picks a loose woman over a good one...then that dude is not worthy as bad judgment is a HUGE character flaw in a man.
i agree with you latino, but i think he just wanted a ons for the night rather than look for a gf that night.
 

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iqqi said:
See, I believe this too.

And also, people ARE drawn to me, and with her, I was drawn to HER, I feel like we have many of the same values and outlooks.

And in that sense, I think that maybe my role is to be the higher character that takes her up to where she should be.

Do I sound full of myself, lol? :whistle:

No, I mean it though. I've had many people in my life who told me I changed them for the better. That they are better people solely due to my influence.

She has a LOT of potential. AND I am pretty sure she truly values my friendship.

Its that insecure little demon inside of her that is ruining everything!!! :woo:

I think my next post might be on the sadistic siren.

I have one inside, too.
^^Cap'n save-a-ho :whistle:
 

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then don't let her go there, just going to have to tell her that it is ok for her to go out with him that he is a really "nice" guy.
i can not believe you never had a girlfriend steal your thunder before.
i know chicks that have walked into their own bedrooms to find their very own sister sucking their very own husbands joystick.
that is what leads so many women to b*tching so much about their men, so that no one else will steal them.
how ridiculous is this concept?
That IS crazy, and I know of girls whose friends all sleep with each other's men. That has never been for me. I can't BELIEVE how those chicks are friends with each other, I guess they don't know any better.

And I have been "hated" on all my life by women, those chicks never made to the iqqidom. They have tried to steal my thunder... but it doesn't work. I was solo flying a lot as a young person, because it really is better to be alone than in bad company.

And I DO feel blessed to have friends that would never mess with my man. They DO have other issues! Lol. But not anything as vile and low down as THAT.
 

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I agree with you Penkitten, but iqqi will never listen. This girl could hit on any number of other guys at the venue but she zeros in on iqqi's target. And iqqi thinks her friend doesn't mean to do it:rolleyes: .The only thing I will say is that a lot of guy "friends" will doublecross his friend over girls as much or more as girls will. Most guys are so desperate for some action they'll do anything to get one even if it means c0ckblocking and betraying a friend.
she is going to play dumb with iqqi and pretend she did not know iqqi liked him and then blame iqqi for not telling her in advance in the ladies bathroom.... but she saw the look on iqqis face and the twinkle in her eye when the crush walked up and she targeted in, while iqqi was busy for a moment and where was she? all standing close playing the "just ask me for my number "game.
 

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I take that back. I DID have a few friends who tried to "steal my thunder" and my crushes. Them h0's bit the dust back then, and last I heard were doing pretty bad.
 

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Well, Iq, we may also have to look at envy and jealousy issues here too.
She probably is draen to you for your values, and the way you conduct yourself and your Life.
But, due to her insecurity, and low self esteem, and scarcity mentality she is trying to One Up you , she is Competing wiht you a little, and she perhaps does it the way she knows how. With guys, and with guys unfortunatley that YOU desire, which is pretty uncool.
And its probably one of the Number ONE Code Rule women hate other women break.

So, yeah, be cool and friendly, but also be aware the potentially she is Envious , Iqqi.
 

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she is going to play dumb with iqqi and pretend she did not know iqqi liked him and then blame iqqi for not telling her in advance in the ladies bathroom.... but she saw the look on iqqis face and the twinkle in her eye when the crush walked up and she targeted in, while iqqi was busy for a moment and where was she? all standing close playing the "just ask me for my number "game.
She knew in advance, we talked about him when he walked in. I told her "the story". And how I had a crush on him, and she was in on the plan when we went over to the dart area.

That whole standing close and ask me for my number game bit is something that stood out to me.

That b!tch!

I knew it!!!!
 

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penkitten said:
i agree with you latino, but i think he just wanted a ons for the night rather than look for a gf that night.
Of course he wanted a ONS. And I have news for you...he was not going to discriminate if it was with Iqqi or her friend. It turned out her friend was more accessible (Iqqi was busy with drunk dude). But make no mistake about one thing...it that guy's eyes...both girls were ONS material. And he probably wanted Iqqi's friend...while getting his buddy to get Iqqi. The two-on-two thing.
 
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