"Romantic Rivalry" ??

[penkitten]

interceptor, your post is something that we all must look at and remember.
2 christians can be friends forever and so can 2 crackheads, but a crack head and a christian can not stay friends for long.
when you hang out with someone that has a reputation, people start to associate you with that reputation too.

 

[iqqi]

Of course he wanted a ONS. And I have news for you...he was not going to discriminate if it was with Iqqi or her friend. It turned out her friend was more accessible (Iqqi was busy with drunk dude). But make no mistake about one thing...it that guy's eyes...both girls were ONS material. And he probably wanted Iqqi's friend...while getting his buddy to get Iqqi. The two-on-two thing.

No buddy was getting iqqi! The buddy of Crush guy never even spoke or got spoken to!

 

[penkitten]

Of course he wanted a ONS. And I have news for you...he was not going to discriminate if it was with Iqqi or her friend. It turned out her friend was more accessible (Iqqi was busy with drunk dude). But make no mistake about one thing...it that guy's eyes...both girls were ONS material. And he probably wanted Iqqi's friend...while getting his buddy to get Iqqi. The two-on-two thing.

^5 switch?!!!
i'm sorry that was totally uncalled for, but so funny none the less.

 

[ketostix]

Of course he wanted a ONS. And I have news for you...he was not going to discriminate if it was with Iqqi or her friend. It turned out her friend was more accessible (Iqqi was busy with drunk dude). But make no mistake about one thing...it that guy's eyes...both girls were ONS material. And he probably wanted Iqqi's friend...while getting his buddy to get Iqqi. The two-on-two thing.

Yep, this guy was trying to do the switch just as much as iqqi's girl friend was. Latinoman and Penkitten are nailing this one. Iqqi probably still won't see it.

 

[iqqi]

You guys give me no credit.

I think he got her # to get to me. Because I am just overly ****y like that.

He'd be an idiot to pass me up.

He hasn't called her, by the way.

In my experience, men who are trying to ONS a chick, call her the same night they got the #, but he did not.

Could be he went with her hesitation, could be my last parting comment reassured him that HE was who I was interested in, could be a few things.

We are perfect for each other! It is destiny! Or density?

 

[jophil28]

He'd be an idiot to pass me up.

We are perfect for each other!

Looks like he is an idiot !

The wisdom that you need to draw from this epic soap is the same wisdom that women all over need to learn- if you want to be with a guy let him know OVERTLY
Your game playing (all cool and 'hard to get') is annoying to read about and more annoying for your target. It failed . Why do I say that? Because you did not get the result you wanted - he has not pursued you - it is as simple as that.

 

[iqqi]

Looks like he is an idiot !

The wisdom that you need to draw from this epic soap is the same wisdom that women all over need to learn- if you want to be with a guy let him know OVERTLY
Your game playing (all cool and 'hard to get') is annoying to read about and more annoying for your target. It failed . Why do I say that? Because you did not get the result you wanted - he has not pursued you - it is as simple as that.

I disagree. I wasn't "all cool"... I was also not over the top clingy.

There IS a middle ground.

Understand that, and be a better DJ.

We shall meet again, him and I, and if we don't, I am sure I will meet someone else in the meantime, so it is no biggie.

 

[MikeYikes122]

I haven't really kept up with this thread, as I haven't been sitting at my computer nonstop for the past 24 hours. I did, however, read through some of it and there seems to be a lot of talk about games women play.

But do women really even play games? In my experience, it's pretty simple with most women. If they are attracted to you in the type of setting iqqi has described, they'll let you know by giving you the usual signs: laughing at your jokes, initiating kino with you, etc. A quality male will use his instincts to know instantly when a girl is attracted to him. That's just how it works, and it's probably nature's way of weeding out guys who are unfit for breeding. I've only ever come across a handful of girls who don't know how to show a guy they are into him.

Granted, there are some games that women are probably going to try to play after phone numbers are exchanged, but before that stage when a guy is just meeting a girl, women in general seem to be pretty straight forward in getting their point across to men they are attracted to. It's subtle, but if you're a guy who has been down the block with a number of women you'll know exactly the moment a girl is attracted to you.

Maybe this guy is just dense or something or you didn't do a good job of getting your point across iqqi? Have you thought about that?

 

[iqqi]

I haven't really kept up with this thread, as I haven't been sitting at my computer nonstop for the past 24 hours. I did, however, read through some of it and there seems to be a lot of talk about games women play.

But do women really even play games? In my experience, it's pretty simple with most women. If they are attracted to you in the type of setting iqqi has described, they'll let you know by giving you the usual signs: laughing at your jokes, initiating kino with you, etc. A quality male will use his instincts to know instantly when a girl is attracted to him. That's just how it works, and it's probably nature's way of weeding out guys who are unfit for breeding. I've only ever come across a handful of girls who don't know how to show a guy they are into him.

Granted, there are some games that women are probably going to try to play after phone numbers are exchanged, but before that stage when a guy is just meeting a girl, women in general seem to be pretty straight forward in getting their point across to men they are attracted to. It's subtle, but if you're a guy who has been down the block with a number of women you'll know exactly the moment a girl is attracted to you.

Maybe this guy is just dense or something or you didn't do a good job of getting your point across iqqi? Have you thought about that?

I got my point across, and I got his too. If my old friend o*** wouldn't have come up to me at the end, I am sure that C***** would have put the finishing touches on our communications.

I was never asking advice about that part.

THAT part had went great for me. It was all just as natural and easy as you described. Things only got sticky at the end with the c0ck blocking Old Acquaintance, and the AW girlfriend.

 

[MikeYikes122]

I got my point across, and I got his too. If my old friend o*** wouldn't have come up to me at the end, I am sure that C***** would have put the finishing touches on our communications.

I was never asking advice about that part.

THAT part had went great for me. It was all just as natural and easy as you described. Things only got sticky at the end with the c0ck blocking Old Acquaintance, and the AW girlfriend.

This is kind of weird because I give this advice to a lot to guys, but there is a point where you just have to concede that the situation was not winnable. A lot of guys want to pound their heads against the wall over blowing it at a bar with a girl who was into them, but what they don't usually take into account were all the other things that made the situation go awry.

For example, I was out with a buddy a few weeks ago in my hometown. He is kind of an AFC, but I am working on him. A girl we knew from high school who he previously had a crush on was talking to him, and she was clearly into him. He got the vibe too. He stepped away from her to give her some space, but in doing so he lost sight of her because the bar we were in was kind of dive and it was crowded as hell. To make a long story short, the girl ended up drinking way too much and going home some creepball we went to high school with.

He was pounding his head against the wall over it and playing Monday morning quarterback like you are. My advice to him was just to forget about the whole ordeal because there was nothing he could have done to reverse what happened. Often, a situation is simply out of your control. There is only so much you can do.

It's not your fault that your old acquaintance cawkblocked you, and it's not your fault that all those other things happened. They were out of your control.

This is why SoSuave can be kind of bad for some guys. It gives them an avenue to replay and over analyze every little detail of everything that ever went wrong.

 

[iqqi]

^^^ That's how I see it.

My only question was in how to deal with the my girl.

 

[reset]

Interceptor clear your PM box.

 

[ketostix]

^^^ That's how I see it.

My only question was in how to deal with the my girl.

Iqqi you are a total AFC with oneitis, and you won't listen. Let me spell it out for you.

-Your indirect girl games sucks. You wanted to eff this guy and you should've been overt about your interest. I'm not going to explain again what you should've done.

-Your female friend is an AW and is poaching off of you and competing against you. Get another girl friend.

-The Crush guy just wanted to get some a$$ that night. He didn't care if it was from you or your female friend. That's not a bad thing really, first night sex can turn into a relationship if you have more to offer than just one thing.

-You are hardheaded know-it-all and you don't know shiat and you won't listen.

 

[iqqi]

Iqqi you are a total AFC with oneitis, and you won't listen. Let me spell it out for you.

-Your indirect girl games sucks. You wanted to eff this guy and you should've been overt about your interest. I'm not going to explain again what you should've done.

-Your female friend is an AW and is poaching off of you and competing against you. Get another girl friend.

-The Crush guy just wanted to get some a$$ that night. He didn't care if it was from you or your female friend. That's not a bad thing really, first night sex can turn into a relationship if you have more to offer than just one thing.

-You are hardheaded know-it-all and you don't know shiat and you won't listen.

-It wasn't really game, game is just another word to sum up the process of meeting and flirting with the opposite sex. I didn't want to "eff" him, I don't "eff" guys I don't know. I wanted to get to know him better because he seems interesting. Thanks.

-I'm not that insecure about my friends. She may have an issue, but her better traits outweigh her flaws, noone is perfect, AND i'll be keeping my eye on her.

-Maybe he did maybe he didn't. Maybe I'll find out maybe I won't.

-Bite me, I am way cooler than you because I am not as close minded, and I am not as uptight.

 

[Mr.Positive]

This is kind of weird because I give this advice to a lot to guys, but there is a point where you just have to concede that the situation was not winnable. A lot of guys want to pound their heads against the wall over blowing it at a bar with a girl who was into them, but what they don't usually take into account were all the other things that made the situation go awry.

For example, I was out with a buddy a few weeks ago in my hometown. He is kind of an AFC, but I am working on him. A girl we knew from high school who he previously had a crush on was talking to him, and she was clearly into him. He got the vibe too. He stepped away from her to give her some space, but in doing so he lost sight of her because the bar we were in was kind of dive and it was crowded as hell. To make a long story short, the girl ended up drinking way too much and going home some creepball we went to high school with.

He was pounding his head against the wall over it and playing Monday morning quarterback like you are. My advice to him was just to forget about the whole ordeal because there was nothing he could have done to reverse what happened. Often, a situation is simply out of your control. There is only so much you can do.

It's not your fault that your old acquaintance cawkblocked you, and it's not your fault that all those other things happened. They were out of your control.

This is why SoSuave can be kind of bad for some guys. It gives them an avenue to replay and over analyze every little detail of everything that ever went wrong.

Exactly..great advise Mike.

Iqqi, it doesn't matter at this point what happened with crush guy, what matters, is what happens now.

If you dig this guy (and he digs you), which it sounds like..go for it. Life is too damn short to pass up on good things.

My advise is to call him up. Seriously...Get his number somehow. 6 years you've had a thing for this guy. Go get him..

 

[mrRuckus]

If a man picks a loose woman over a good one...then that dude is not worthy as bad judgment is a HUGE character flaw in a man.

Or he couldn't care less about a relationship and just wanted to get some soon. Or Iqqi isn't as high quality or as hot as she thinks.

I think we're totally missing out on the real vibes Iqqi was sending to this guy. She's here calling her friend easy and acting like this dude has to jump through hoops to sex her... wouldn't you think that attitude would come through?

I read most of this thread yesterday so i'm not sure if my memory is totally accurate but she calls this friend "easy" because he makes it easy for the guy? Has she actually mentioned any situations where she actually went home with a guy right then? How do you guys work? I mean really... we usually choose the path of least resistance and/or the hotter one. Especially if it's just sex we're caring about. If some girl is playing hard to get i am BORED. I want paid attention to. I like feeling desired. That stuff isn't only women... it's just more important to them than us to have all the time. If she's off talking to other dudes and possibly even seen as flirting with other guys (who knows how Iqqi was really acting? People often don't realize what vibes their putting out and even lie) wouldn't you expect the dude to go with the girl that's being less of a pain? Unless Iqqi is way better than the other one (the guy probably has very little idea, if any at all, that Iqqi's friend has issues... and who knows how iqqi comes off) it's no wonder why he'd choose that one.

For all we know this guy pulled the tactic of paying attention to the uglier one ("he kept talking to me instead of her!") to make the hotter one compete. And the hotter one competed and clung to him more so he got her number. Iqqi did say he was pretty DJ, if i remember right.

I know I hate the hard to get stuff. It bores me, and I resent it. It's often so easily seen through that it's insulting. I straight up told the girl I just started seeing that if she ever pulls that stuff it'll have the opposite effect of whatever Cosmo tells women on me. And it will. I know it will. It's annoying. There was a post earlier in this thread that says something "just tell someone if you like them; it's that easy." This crazy psychology thing of wanting what's rare or what takes more work to get isn't THAT pulling in this. I like who likes me. Just like I most like the people who are the nicest to me and laugh the most at my jokes. I'm friends with the people who take the most active interest in me. I LIKE that every night the girl I'm seeing texts me "good night." She gets more points than the one who tries to ignore me a bunch just to get power. And in return I shower her with appreciation for her acts of kindness so she knows I approve and that's how to get positive attention from me rather than pulling some psych games that will just p1ss me off because i'm not a dumb 15 year old boy.

Oh and this female friend is not retarded. She knew what she was doing. "i haven't had female friends." Dude, whatever... like it's so hard to comprehend "hey i would hate if someone did that to me so i shouldn't do it to someone else."

 

[##17]

LOL. "Guys don't trust anyone around their girlfriends except their best friends, girls trust everyone around their boyfriends except their best friends."

 

[##17]

Out of curiosity, how come iqqi doesn't have to post her age here, but the GUYS do?

 

[My Name is Nobody]

You guys give me no credit.

I think he got her # to get to me. Because I am just overly ****y like that.

He'd be an idiot to pass me up.

He hasn't called her, by the way.

In my experience, men who are trying to ONS a chick, call her the same night they got the #, but he did not.

Could be he went with her hesitation, could be my last parting comment reassured him that HE was who I was interested in, could be a few things.

We are perfect for each other! It is destiny! Or density?

How do you know the guy hasn't called your friend Iqqi? I doubt your friend is going to tell you when he calls. She knows you are p!ssed she could be banging him and not even tell you.

 

[MacAvoy]

Lets get this moved to anything else or the General forum please to remain consistant