RLE: What A High Quality Woman Looks Like

[TheException]

Again, they are not. They are what a normal woman should do.

You are insinuating the majority of women randomly clean their boyfriend's entire kitchen for no other reason than to make him happy.....and that's simply untrue. Its not her apartment shes cleaning or cleaning up "her mess" that she made at my house like another member suggested. Its a very clear green flag and it amazes me that its even up for debate.

This community overwhelming settles for poor/low-quality women.....but are quick to lash out at actual high quality behavior and deem it "normal". If only people would apply their own "wisdom" to their own lives. This is not a rocket science.

 

[joker79]

You are insinuating the majority of women randomly clean their boyfriend's entire kitchen for no other reason than to make him happy.....and that's simply untrue. Its not her apartment shes cleaning or cleaning up "her mess" that she made at my house like another member suggested. Its a very clear green flag and it amazes me that its even up for debate.

This community overwhelming settles for poor/low-quality women.....but are quick to lash out at actual high quality behavior and deem it "normal". If only people would apply their own "wisdom" to their own lives. This is not a rocket science.

your personal investment in this girl blinds your own judgment

 

[goldengoose]

I agree with this paragraph with a few exceptions.

1. A woman like you describe exists. A high quality woman is not common....but she is also far from nonexistent. Its very self limiting to believe you will never find a high quality woman because she does not exist. Erase that belief and you may find one.

2. Why have I put my woman on a pedestal? I give one example of high quality behavior and people are quick to diminish it and refuse to acknowledge it. I have never said she is without her faults.....like every other women she still falls prey to her emotions and I even made two threads about that very thing. Coincidentally, people are quick to selectively cite those.

1. I dont come here to "receive advice".

There is an overwhelming number of posters who are quick to give advise but lack the real qualifications to be giving any advice. Its not arrogant to recognize that I(or any members for that matter) would not benefit from listening to the majority of men here. I learn and experience growth in other ways.

2. Your right, I didnt talk about her faithfullness, ability to handle conflicts, etc. YET....assumptions are being made that she is low quality. People that make rash assertions based upon close to zero evidence are fools. You can seek out different things all you want in women, but a women who goes out of her way to please her man is NEVER a negative or a red flag. Period.

Is this your first relationship? It has to be from the way you're talking. Cooking and cleaning is to be expected from a woman. The worst women in the world all have done chores. Maybe she cleaned because she felt guilty for treating you bad. Women like her will do just that when she feels guilty, she wants to please you for her wrong doing.

Doing that alone does not make her high quality. You think just because she cleaned your kitchen she shows high quality but you ignore the other red flags. High quality would be her patience with you and how she reacts in certain situations with you. Does she let you help her? Does she let you control the situation without her trying to get her way? Does she allow you to be dominant? Is her behavior affecting your mood and day? Does she rely on you to prove her worth? Do you quickly forgive her when she wants you to for her outbursts? All of that determines if woman is truly high quality.

All you're doing is coming up with excuses when she makes you look like a chump. High quality women don't treat their men like chumps. That's the very definition of settling because you said you don't give a damn.

 

[goldengoose]

Originally Posted by TheException
She grew very p1ssed and annoyed because we were now late for the dinner party. She was irritated and blurted out "that we would have parked by now, and that I dont listen to her". I find a spot and we begin walking to the house which is a few blocks away and she is extremely b1tchy at this point saying annoying things like "oh great now we are like 10 blocks away" and general bratty things like this. Most guys have a tendency to want to tell her to shut the fvck up and yell. Me? I didnt say a fvckin word the WHOLE WALK. I let her run that bratty mouth.

Gf: Well you didnt say that! How am I supposed to know to ask you
Me: Im just saying, I can help is all.
Gf: Goes on some b1tchy rant and starts making me the bad guy
Me: Are you fvcking serious? Im here trying to help you and you're acting like a huge brat



haha waaaay too funny. You make fun of other men for the same sh1t you settled for. What does that make you? How is this a High Quality woman when she treats you like a chump? You settled for her b1tchy rants against you. Why couldn't you screen for that? That's what you tell other people here. Who's the chump now?

 

[TheException]

Is this your first relationship? It has to be from the way you're talking. Cooking and cleaning is to be expected from a woman. The worst women in the world all have done chores. Maybe she cleaned because she felt guilty for treating you bad. Women like her will do just that when she feels guilty, she wants to please you for her wrong doing.

Doing that alone does not make her high quality. You think just because she cleaned your kitchen she shows high quality but you ignore the other red flags. High quality would be her patience with you and how she reacts in certain situations with you. Does she let you help her? Does she let you control the situation without her trying to get her way? Does she allow you to be dominant? Is her behavior affecting your mood and day? Does she rely on you to prove her worth? Do you quickly forgive her when she wants you to for her outbursts? All of that determines if woman is truly high quality.

All you're doing is coming up with excuses when she makes you look like a chump. High quality women don't treat their men like chumps. That's the very definition of settling because you said you don't give a damn.

If you possess any sort of reading comprehension, do yourself a favor and go back and read my responses. You are like the 4th person to bring this up, and Im starting to sound like a broken record player.....

Cleaning my kitchen alone does not make her high quality in and of itself.....but doing things because she wants to please me is high quality behavior. Period.

 

[TheException]

Originally Posted by TheException
She grew very p1ssed and annoyed because we were now late for the dinner party. She was irritated and blurted out "that we would have parked by now, and that I dont listen to her". I find a spot and we begin walking to the house which is a few blocks away and she is extremely b1tchy at this point saying annoying things like "oh great now we are like 10 blocks away" and general bratty things like this. Most guys have a tendency to want to tell her to shut the fvck up and yell. Me? I didnt say a fvckin word the WHOLE WALK. I let her run that bratty mouth.

Gf: Well you didnt say that! How am I supposed to know to ask you
Me: Im just saying, I can help is all.
Gf: Goes on some b1tchy rant and starts making me the bad guy
Me: Are you fvcking serious? Im here trying to help you and you're acting like a huge brat



haha waaaay too funny. You make fun of other men for the same sh1t you settled for. What does that make you? How is this a High Quality woman when she treats you like a chump? You settled for her b1tchy rants against you. Why couldn't you screen for that? That's what you tell other people here. Who's the chump now?

As Ive said before, I stand by every word in that post. Funny how you selectively quote my post and lead the part out about her crying and apologizing....

Women are emotional creatures. They are not logical like men. Emotions get the best of women all the time. Her being upset about a test and being emotional about it, is not a big deal to me. What is a big deal to me, is if she were to do this on a consistent basis or not acknowledge that she is upset about a test and shes taking it out on me. If youve never had a women get b1tchy before.....then id argue youve never dated women before. There are members here that knew exactly what I was talking about.....but again....that thread was held hostage by a few people who didnt know what they were talking about and as much as I tried to explain it to them....they kept creating up their own scenarios and making stuff up, similar to this thread.....and its a real shame. See below for a "made up" scenario.

Maybe she cleaned because she felt guilty for treating you bad. Women like her will do just that when she feels guilty, she wants to please you for her wrong doing.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

@goldengoose: of course we settle, that is normal. girls settle also. finding a quality MAN is equally as hard as finding a quality woman. that is why we must strive to become quality men, and that is why in the meantime we settle for girls who meet some minimum standard.

the problem is not that we are settling for a compromise. the problem is, when we call settling "finding the perfect woman". that is delusion driven by ego. a man who loves himself will not lie to himself. the fact that it would be nice for something to be true, does not make it true.

here is where i disagree with OP. i can accept that there are some qualities of that girl that makes him compromise and say it is better than it is worse, so i will go for it. but calling it a quality woman seems like a stretch, and a self-deluding lie to protect the ego.I CANNOT choose badly, so the girl must be perfect. it is a deformed logic.

@ OP:
no need to be so defensive. nobody is attacking here, we express opinions. a man that cannot accept advice, should NEVER give advice. so by writing on this forum you accept that there will be other viewpoints also. you accomplish nothing.

you could just enumerate some ARGUMENTS as to why this girl is quality despite some of them red flags, and while convincing people you made a legitimate compromise, you would see that pedetalizing is the main problem here. we would understand, you would evolve in wisdom. but instead you resorted to insulting and personal attacks. what did that prove?

 

[TheException]

@goldengoose: of course we settle, that is normal. girls settle also. finding a quality MAN is equally as hard as finding a quality woman. that is why we must strive to become quality men, and that is why in the meantime we settle for girls who meet some minimum standard.

the problem is not that we are settling for a compromise. the problem is, when we call settling "finding the perfect woman". that is delusion driven by ego. a man who loves himself will not lie to himself. the fact that it would be nice for something to be true, does not make it true.

here is where i disagree with OP. i can accept that there are some qualities of that girl that makes him compromise and say it is better than it is worse, so i will go for it. but calling it a quality woman seems like a stretch, and a self-deluding lie to protect the ego.I CANNOT choose badly, so the girl must be perfect. it is a deformed logic.

I agree wholeheartily with the first paragraph. I cannot agree on the "settling" bit though. As Ive said......we must screen for high quality women. I think they are uncommon....but not impossible to find.

And for the 1000th time....I DID NOT say my girlfriend is high quality simply because she cleans. I said this is an example of high quality behavior and exactly the type of behavior you should look for when in the screening process. I have been consistent throughout this entire thread on this issue.

@ OP:
no need to be so defensive. nobody is attacking here, we express opinions. a man that cannot accept advice, should NEVER give advice. so by writing on this forum you accept that there will be other viewpoints also. you accomplish nothing.

you could just enumerate some ARGUMENTS as to why this girl is quality despite some of them red flags, and while convincing people you made a legitimate compromise, you would see that pedetalizing is the main problem here. we would understand, you would evolve in wisdom. but instead you resorted to insulting and personal attacks. what did that prove?

Am I not allowed to make counterpoints? Should I just accept everybody's input no questions barred?

No one is being defensive here. No one is putting their girlfriend on a pedestal.

 

[goldengoose]

As Ive said before, I stand by every word in that post. Funny how you selectively quote my post and lead the part out about her crying and apologizing....

Women are emotional creatures. They are not logical like men. Emotions get the best of women all the time. Her being upset about a test and being emotional about it, is not a big deal to me. What is a big deal to me, is if she were to do this on a consistent basis or not acknowledge that she is upset about a test and shes taking it out on me. If youve never had a women get b1tchy before.....then id argue youve never dated women before. There are members here that knew exactly what I was talking about.....but again....that thread was held hostage by a few people who didnt know what they were talking about and as much as I tried to explain it to them....they kept creating up their own scenarios and making stuff up, similar to this thread.....and its a real shame. See below for a "made up" scenario.

It's funny how you think that cleaning is high quality when her regular behavior isn't. You didn't answer my question. Is this your first relatonship?
because you seem a bit green with what you're talking about. My girlfriend would never act that way if I try to help her. Your girlfriend should already know that she can turn to you for help. Chicks who make you out to be the "bad guy" are projecting all their faults on to you. It's not a made up scenario, she b1tched at you before and with her over emiotional behavior, she will do it again.

I'm sure those weren't the only two times when she got mad at you and held her power over you. Over emotional women do this a lot and the man has to deal with her insecurities. She could compare you to her ex or even think false ideas of you cheating on her. That's how these women act. Being stuck with a woman like that is draining and you have to come up with ways to keep her on a leash. chumps waste their time that doing that. I know women just like this who act this way on a regular basis. After they feel guily by trying to repair things by doing something nice. That's what experience does for you, you learn things about women. But you think this is high quality when you dont even know.

You have this chick put up on a high pedestal and you will take whatever she does just to say you have a girlfriend. That's settling. Oh well, keep your head in the sand then one day you will find out that we all were right.

 

[TheException]

You didn't answer my question. Is this your first relatonship?

No.

Over emotional women do this a lot and the man has to deal with her insecurities. She could compare you to her ex or even think false ideas of you cheating on her.

Id agree with this. Overly emotional women are certainly not high quality. Just because I post a story about her being emotional, doesnt mean it happens all the time. You assume a lot here.....and falsely so. The bit on insecurities is an interesting point and very valid one. I believe ALL WOMEN have some insecurities....especially if they are dealing with a higher value male. The key concept behind things such as preselection and dating multiple women PLAYS ON women's insecurities to your benefit. Any time a woman sees the man as the one with higher value, she will have some sort of insecurities. The key is to judge them based upon intensity level(think about how she reacts) and how often she succumbs to them.

You have this chick put up on a high pedestal and you will take whatever she does just to say you have a girlfriend. That's settling. Oh well, keep your head in the sand then one day you will find out that we all were right.

Can we put the pedestal sh1t to rest? I believe ive thoroughly addressed this point. Just because a man is in a relationship with a woman doesnt mean he has to put her on a pedestal. You sound like one of the PHM drones when you talk like this.

Being upset at a test and reacting emotionally for 3 minutes does not equate all the negative talk that you are drumming up. I would understand your point if I made 43 posts with these types of situations. But to assume from two stories that she "must do it all the time" or is "low quality" and that I am settling....is simply inaccurate. If you want to stick to you assumption based on limited information, be my guest....but we will have to disagree. I deal with her in real life on a daily basis....not through two internet stories. We can just leave it there.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

Can we put the pedestal sh1t to rest? I believe ive thoroughly addressed this point. Just because a man is in a relationship with a woman doesnt mean he has to put her on a pedestal. You sound like one of the PHM drones when you talk like this.

i too find this pedestal stuff worn out already, but i also find it a good analogy to cases where a guy over-evaluates a girl into thinking she is better than she really is / under-evaluates himself and thinking he has to "earn" her love.
as i said, she may be a good woman, but from the info you wrote here, it doesn't seem like that. that's it. if she nevertheless really is a quality woman, go for it, we are all happy for you or not really care. your life your choices, nobody has the right to butt in.
but since this is a public forum, people make indput based on the info shared. and by the info given by you, 2 things are obvious:
1. you like this girl very much
2. for most of us that is not what high quality means
if these are objectively wrong conclusions it means you gave misleading / incomplete info. that or we all are idiots here.

 

[bukowski_merit]

Ok, I don't want to seem like another shark who smells blood (which is what a lot of this thread seems like since the 2nd page). But I took about 30 minutes to read through more posts on this girl, and I have to say - what I found is not impressive.

- Her fishing for compliments and sulking all night when she doesn't get them.
- The crying when reaching a frustrating peak in arguments with you.
- Her constantly expressing her fear of losing you.
- Her temper tantrums.
- You saying she constantly tests you.
- Her approval seeking behavior.
- Clingy behavior.

These things are not what I'd consider high quality. These are signs of low self-esteem. And I'm sure you don't post every time she acts up, so how many more examples of these things have happened over the last few months?

Her high sex drive goes hand and hand with all this stuff. It's rare to met a woman with a high sex drive who didn't also have the traits above.


Does this mean you should dump her? Downgrade her? Think less of her? Probably not that extreme; and it doesn't matter since you've already made it abundantly clear that you could care less what other posters think. You seem to handle her ok. And for the modern woman, a lot of this behavior is unfortunately normal. I just wouldn't be putting any bets on this woman being "the one." Or proclaiming her to be some rare prize you've found.

The common trend in your threads about her are: She acts bratty, b!tchy, or in some other way low-self esteem. And your story ends with you being the hero and solving the problem and giving a little life lesson to readers. You're normally praised for this, but that's because people are normally focusing on how you handled the situation; not... her specific actions or her quality. And yes, I understand you saying that you mostly post about her when she 'sh!t tests' you, but her behavior goes beyond "occasional".

You're 22, she's probably young too; this honestly looks more like a typical young relationship than some superb find. If nothing else - dealing with girls like this sharpens your skills; but... It also has many potentially negative consequences as well, especially if you think she's something she isn't.

Just be aware of this...

And always be willing to walk away. But be aware that women who fit the profile of the woman you talk about - never let the breakup go smoothly. So... Expect lot's of sh!t, and im not talking about a few tests that a freezeout or stern talk can make go away....


NOTE: I don't think this reflects on your advice as a poster. In most cases - I agree with your advice (and most people here seem to). You give quality advice to people. Now hopefully, you can take some.

 

[GotED?]

10 INPUT THREAD=SH!T ; U$
20 PRINT "Hello you d!ckheads who spend wasted energy on this phucked up thread" ; U$
25 REM
30 INPUT C0CK INTO UR A$$
40 FOR U = EETSH!T
45 NEXT POSTER = U EETSH!T 2
50 SET A$$ = TheException
60 If A$$ is LICKING his own A$SS then goto 100
100 END THREAD
/THREAD

 

[asa_don]

But I took about 30 minutes to read through more posts on this girl, and I have to say - what I found is not impressive.

- Her fishing for compliments and sulking all night when she doesn't get them.
- The crying when reaching a frustrating peak in arguments with you.
- Her constantly expressing her fear of losing you.
- Her temper tantrums.
- You saying she constantly tests you.
- Her approval seeking behavior.
- Clingy behavior.

These things are not what I'd consider high quality. These are signs of low self-esteem. And I'm sure you don't post every time she acts up, so how many more examples of these things have happened over the last few months?

Her high sex drive goes hand and hand with all this stuff. It's rare to met a woman with a high sex drive who didn't also have the traits above.

good analysis, most of the other posters were saying the same thing too. the problem I see is that you give into her temper tantrums when she expects to be forgiven. she will do this more and more when she knows she can get away with it. it's like a parent letting the child having their way. i know you will try to scoff at what i'm saying so i showed this thread to 3 girls at work. all 3 said this girl is not high quality and were laughing at you for thinking so. they said your girl has issues and emotional problems when one girl said she never cries that much or fights with her bf like that. do you always give in when she cries during a fight? you have her too much on a pedestal to recognize any of these behavioral problems. we all agreed on that. you should treat her like the way you talk on the forum, giving in to her quick apologies is hurting your standing in the relatonship.

The common trend in your threads about her are: She acts bratty, b!tchy, or in some other way low-self esteem. And your story ends with you being the hero and solving the problem and giving a little life lesson to readers.

any writer can make himself a hero, when this happens often he is not a hero when she can pull his srings to forigive her at any time when she wants him to.

 

[TheException]

Ok, I don't want to seem like another shark who smells blood (which is what a lot of this thread seems like since the 2nd page). But I took about 30 minutes to read through more posts on this girl, and I have to say - what I found is not impressive.

Dont feel that way. By all means, I encourage others to make their own assessments, even if they are not correct. That being said....your post below was the most intelligent response on this thread and I will enjoy responding to some of your points. Ill go into detail.

- Her fishing for compliments and sulking all night when she doesn't get them.
- The crying when reaching a frustrating peak in arguments with you.
- Her constantly expressing her fear of losing you.
- Her temper tantrums.
- You saying she constantly tests you.
- Her approval seeking behavior.
- Clingy behavior.

These things are not what I'd consider high quality. These are signs of low self-esteem. And I'm sure you don't post every time she acts up, so how many more examples of these things have happened over the last few months?

-Fishing for compliments is going to happen when the man is the higher value of the two. We preach that we should aim to be the higher value in the relationship and the "one who cares less". Hoping to receive compliments is part of normal female behavior to this. She is trying to validate herself.
-Crying = Emotional response. If youve never had a woman cry because of her emotions or feelings.....get your girlfriend drunk sometime.
-Fear of losing me, again is related to me being higher value. A good thing in a relationship. Its better than me constantly worrying about losing her, which is what the majority of men do.
-Constant temper tantrums is an over statement.
-The more "alpha" you are....the more sh1t tests you will receive. Basic 101 evolutionary psychology. She has to "make sure" she is really dating an "alpha".
-Approval seeking = same as above.
-Clingy behavior. I dont think its overboard with her. As ive said previously...a girlfriend who is a LITTLE clingy is a good thing.

You just dont see things the same way as me then, if these are beyond doubt "low quality" to you. Now even though you are entitled to your own set of standards....I just think they may not be appropriate standards. Its like the guys on here who want a woman who's had no more than 5 sexual partners. I believe you cant have a high quality woman who recognizes the man as the one with more value....and still be devoid of the approval seeking behavior. I think that kind of behavior is actually good. If you dont like it....your only option is to be in a relationship where the woman believes herself to be the one with higher value. I just see that as being detrimental. A pure balanced relationship 50/50 is practically impossible.

Does this mean you should dump her? Downgrade her? Think less of her? Probably not that extreme; and it doesn't matter since you've already made it abundantly clear that you could care less what other posters think. You seem to handle her ok. And for the modern woman, a lot of this behavior is unfortunately normal. I just wouldn't be putting any bets on this woman being "the one." Or proclaiming her to be some rare prize you've found.

This point has been misinterpreted. I was not trying to proclaim her as the some glorious prize or put her on a pedestal. She did a simple kind act the other day and I bet the majority of men on here settle for women who do no such things. Just wanted to draw a contrast. Never settle for sh1tty women! Always be screening. When women go out of there way to do things for no reason OTHER TO MAKE YOU HAPPY....thats high quality and a green flag. Period. This simply is not up for discussion.

The common trend in your threads about her are: She acts bratty, b!tchy, or in some other way low-self esteem. And your story ends with you being the hero and solving the problem and giving a little life lesson to readers. You're normally praised for this, but that's because people are normally focusing on how you handled the situation; not... her specific actions or her quality. And yes, I understand you saying that you mostly post about her when she 'sh!t tests' you, but her behavior goes beyond "occasional".

Its really not beyond "occasional". I dont know the exact number but Ive created maybe 3 threads on the "bad" aspects while making about 2 on the "good". Ive been dating her 7 months exclusively and 2 non-exclusively before that. If you want I can come on here and post a good story every week just to "brag"....but I have a feeling that wont be a big hit lol. I post to help men with the "troubling parts" of a relationship. Every relationship has them. The "good" stuff is easy to sit back and enjoy. The "bad" stuff....not so much.

 

[goldengoose]

Dont feel that way. By all means, I encourage others to make their own assessments, even if they are not correct. That being said....your post below was the most intelligent response on this thread and I will enjoy responding to some of your points. Ill go into detail.

-Fishing for compliments is going to happen when the man is the higher value of the two. We preach that we should aim to be the higher value in the relationship and the "one who cares less". Hoping to receive compliments is part of normal female behavior to this. She is trying to validate herself.
-Crying = Emotional response. If youve never had a woman cry because of her emotions or feelings.....get your girlfriend drunk sometime.
-Fear of losing me, again is related to me being higher value. A good thing in a relationship. Its better than me constantly worrying about losing her, which is what the majority of men do.
-Constant temper tantrums is an over statement.
-The more "alpha" you are....the more sh1t tests you will receive. Basic 101 evolutionary psychology. She has to "make sure" she is really dating an "alpha".
-Approval seeking = same as above.
-Clingy behavior. I dont think its overboard with her. As ive said previously...a girlfriend who is a LITTLE clingy is a good thing.

You just dont see things the same way as me then, if these are beyond doubt "low quality" to you. Now even though you are entitled to your own set of standards....I just think they may not be appropriate standards. Its like the guys on here who want a woman who's had no more than 5 sexual partners. I believe you cant have a high quality woman who recognizes the man as the one with more value....and still be devoid of the approval seeking behavior. I think that kind of behavior is actually good. If you dont like it....your only option is to be in a relationship where the woman believes herself to be the one with higher value. I just see that as being detrimental. A pure balanced relationship 50/50 is practically impossible.

This point has been misinterpreted. I was not trying to proclaim her as the some glorious prize or put her on a pedestal. She did a simple kind act the other day and I bet the majority of men on here settle for women who do no such things. Just wanted to draw a contrast. Never settle for sh1tty women! Always be screening. When women go out of there way to do things for no reason OTHER TO MAKE YOU HAPPY....thats high quality and a green flag. Period. This simply is not up for discussion.

Its really not beyond "occasional". I dont know the exact number but Ive created maybe 3 threads on the "bad" aspects while making about 2 on the "good". Ive been dating her 7 months exclusively and 2 non-exclusively before that. If you want I can come on here and post a good story every week just to "brag"....but I have a feeling that wont be a big hit lol. I post to help men with the "troubling parts" of a relationship. Every relationship has them. The "good" stuff is easy to sit back and enjoy. The "bad" stuff....not so much.

An alpha wouldn't deal with this low quality behavior from a woman. He would be out bangng as many women he can avoiding relationships with women who ruin his nights.

 

[JoeMarron]

Lol what a ridiculous thread. Dude makes a post illustrating good behavior and then everyone sh!ts on him for 5 pages saying the girl isn't quality. Accept the thread for what it is, an example of what a man should be looking for in a relationship. Noobs come here all the time posting about the most outrageous nonsense that they put up with. They need to be explicitly told what good behavior is. Stop reaching for the tiniest bits of information in a silly attempt to prove the chick isn't quality.

 

[goldengoose]

Lol what a ridiculous thread. Dude makes a post illustrating good behavior and then everyone sh!ts on him for 5 pages saying the girl isn't quality. Accept the thread for what it is, an example of what a man should be looking for in a relationship. Noobs come here all the time posting about the most outrageous nonsense that they put up with. They need to be explicitly told what good behavior is. Stop reaching for the tiniest bits of information in a silly attempt to prove the chick isn't quality.

^says the guy who's only been with 2 women.

 

[sylvester the cat]

It seems to me that people are attacking Exception moreso than the content of his message.

it's nothing new:

Matthew 23:12

Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

 

[JoeMarron]

^says the guy who's only been with 2 women.

One doesn't have to sleep with a thousand women to know what quality is, just a little bit of common sense and knowledge.

It seems to me that people are attacking Exception moreso than the content of his message.

It seems to me that people are attacking Exception moreso than the content of his message.

it's nothing new:

Matthew 23:12

Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

Hah good points.