RLE: What A High Quality Woman Looks Like

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CrimsonPanther said:
the truth is, there is no quality women on the long term. theyare almost all quality at first, then they cheat on you, leave you, nag you, and manipulate you. denying this and labeling those who see reality as "jaded" will not change anything.
Another CWAF. The bolded above is not "reality". Its " YOUR reality" because of your sh1tty experiences and you believe nothing else. Thats your loss and you are too far gone to help.
 

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op, you seem to be in denial with the infatuation of your gf.
I make a few threads about my girlfriend talking about REAL LIFE experiences and now I'm apparently infatuated with her. Im not here to brag or gloat about my gf....im here to help other men. A simple undeniable act of high quality behavior is what it is. There is no need to blow this thread out of proportion.

i can see that your gf is not high quality esp the way she was talking to you.
Thank god you can tell shes low quality from 3 threads. You are a godsend and should open up an internet advisor business asap.
 

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I make a few threads about my girlfriend talking about REAL LIFE experiences .
there is no REAL LIFE, as this thread quite clearly attests. only subjective interpretations of life.

live your life OP. just don't expect your interpretation of life to match others. this is an impossibility. your gfriend sounds just fine. for now.
 

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TheException said:
I make a few threads about my girlfriend talking about REAL LIFE experiences and now I'm apparently infatuated with her. Im not here to brag or gloat about my gf....im here to help other men. A simple undeniable act of high quality behavior is what it is. There is no need to blow this thread out of proportion.

from what i've read about her there is nothing to brag or gloat about lol. how can you help other men when you can't help deal with the problems of your gf?
 

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Bicker bicker bicker... im right im right im right! Look at me! Man these threads get crazy lately. Not that that hasn't been the case in the past, but it just seems more and more like people just come here to argue.


Ok that aside....


To me - This doesn't speak of a woman's quality at all. "Low quality" women will do sh!t like this for a man she's in love with. In fact, I've fvcked women who did stuff like this (cooked/cleaned house) for their boyfriends. And yes, that means I was actively fvcking them while they had these same boyfriends. I'm not saying this woman is low quality, I'm just saying this isn't a good gauge for quality.

To come on here and proclaim this as something high quality rather than normal, makes me think you haven't dated around.

What this speaks more on is her interest in you, and value she places on you and your approval. Which is what this post should have been about.



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My $.02
 

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TheException said:
Another CWAF. The bolded above is not "reality". Its " YOUR reality" because of your sh1tty experiences and you believe nothing else. Thats your loss and you are too far gone to help.
duuh of course it is my reality. but it is not sh1itty experience, and it is not a loss, because i have more important things going on in my life than to chase the pink unicorn.

and my "loss" can result from the fact that i also do not have an empty pedestal desperately waiting to be put under a girl. i see people for what they are.
also my definition of a quality woman is light years away from yours, because i don't need my woman to be the self-advertising house servant, i already have a maid who keeps my home pretty, and i can always pick up the phone and order a fine meal. for me a quality woman is an intelligent, caring, loyal woman with moral principles. one who is calm, mature and fun to be with. and this applies also to my ideas about a quality man.
my "sh1tty" experience is that i can accept that it is highly unlikely for a woman like this to exist, and even if it would, i wouldn't put her on a pedestal, because it is wise to see someone's faults and still care for her knowing she is not perfect. deluding yourself that you have found the perfect woman is not so wise in my book considering the highly probable side effects.
i couldn't care less if she does the dishes or cooks or not, because those are no priorities for me.

so no need for cheap shaming tactics and manifestations of artificial superiority about me needing help, because i feel very good where i am now. if you feel frustrated, kindly find other ways to get rid of the stress, because i don't really care what total strangers think about me.

i told you what i wanted, it is your choice to understand it, or to misunderstand it, and take it personally.

[EDIT]: also it is kinda sad/funny how almost everyone is seeing this situation more objectively than you, but you still fight like crazy to prove "i am right and everyone else is wrong" at least listen to them and use the info to evolve. you COULD of course join the bandwagon and start parroting the new trendy "SS is a community of woman-hating frustrated idiots" stuff, but what would that accomplish?
with your OP you basically said "a quality woman is one who cooks and cleans". you haven't said anything about how trustworthy she is, how good she handles conflicts and stressful situations, how good of a PARTNER she is. you willfully ignore red flags and try to puch her as the quality woman towards the rest of us, who clearly disagree. you take it personally and percieve it as an insult on your person, and start acting angry.
 

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CrimsonPanther said:
and my "loss" can result from the fact that i also do not have an empty pedestal desperately waiting to be put under a girl. i see people for what they are.
also my definition of a quality woman is light years away from yours, because i don't need my woman to be the self-advertising house servant, i already have a maid who keeps my home pretty, and i can always pick up the phone and order a fine meal. for me a quality woman is an intelligent, caring, loyal woman with moral principles. one who is calm, mature and fun to be with. and this applies also to my ideas about a quality man.
my "sh1tty" experience is that i can accept that it is highly unlikely for a woman like this to exist, and even if it would, i wouldn't put her on a pedestal, because it is wise to see someone's faults and still care for her knowing she is not perfect. deluding yourself that you have found the perfect woman is not so wise in my book considering the highly probable side effects.
i couldn't care less if she does the dishes or cooks or not, because those are no priorities for me.
I agree with this paragraph with a few exceptions.

1. A woman like you describe exists. A high quality woman is not common....but she is also far from nonexistent. Its very self limiting to believe you will never find a high quality woman because she does not exist. Erase that belief and you may find one.

2. Why have I put my woman on a pedestal? I give one example of high quality behavior and people are quick to diminish it and refuse to acknowledge it. I have never said she is without her faults.....like every other women she still falls prey to her emotions and I even made two threads about that very thing. Coincidentally, people are quick to selectively cite those.
also it is kinda sad/funny how almost everyone is seeing this situation more objectively than you, but you still fight like crazy to prove "i am right and everyone else is wrong" at least listen to them and use the info to evolve. you COULD of course join the bandwagon and start parroting the new trendy "SS is a community of woman-hating frustrated idiots" stuff, but what would that accomplish?
with your OP you basically said "a quality woman is one who cooks and cleans". you haven't said anything about how trustworthy she is, how good she handles conflicts and stressful situations, how good of a PARTNER she is. you willfully ignore red flags and try to puch her as the quality woman towards the rest of us, who clearly disagree. you take it personally and percieve it as an insult on your person, and start acting angry.
1. I dont come here to "receive advice".

There is an overwhelming number of posters who are quick to give advise but lack the real qualifications to be giving any advice. Its not arrogant to recognize that I(or any members for that matter) would not benefit from listening to the majority of men here. I learn and experience growth in other ways.

2. Your right, I didnt talk about her faithfullness, ability to handle conflicts, etc. YET....assumptions are being made that she is low quality. People that make rash assertions based upon close to zero evidence are fools. You can seek out different things all you want in women, but a women who goes out of her way to please her man is NEVER a negative or a red flag. Period.
 

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it's funny, you're completely in defensive mode. Nobody is attacking you, there are though lots of other guys advising you that such high quality behaviour is not a high quality behaviour and it's not and will never be a gauge of a high quality woman. Doing something like cleaning or cooking is a NORMAL thing, you should expect it. Not doing it is a sign of LOW quality. So i'd say that your woman is acting accordingly to common sense, even if I see a problem when she seeks your approval.
 

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OP should show this silly thread to his gfriend - see then if she thinks he's the 'Man' she should be doing all the housework for. lol.

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I have little respect for folks on here who spout out:

"There's little I can learn from this website because all men are more stupid than me - but since I know it all, that is why I am here, as a God of DJ-hood to share my RIGHTEOUS KNOWLEDGE"..


PLEASE - GROW UP.


This is all immature talks from the EGO and PRIDE.

We are all here to learn from each other, and nobody really knows more than anyone else, just DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES to SHARE (and most of the time we agree more so with a certain reaction to situations from other's experiences such as NEXTing, INDIFFERENCE, etc).

Be well.

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TheException said:
Between the guys who deal with sh1t women and those who settle for a BPD woman.....

If not and you are dealing with a sh1tty woman....realize you are not happy, that you will NEVER BE TRULY HAPPY....realize that you CAN AND WILL do better than her......and DUMP HER SH1TTY A$$ NOW!!!!!

I see too many of my friends in LTR who settle for sh1tty women and it drives me f*cking crazy that a lot of them are getting engaged now. Many people don't realize there are women like yours out there and settle for much less.

good post.
 

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GotED? said:
I have little respect for folks on here who spout out:

"There's little I can learn from this website because all men are more stupid than me - but since I know it all, that is why I am here, as a God of DJ-hood to share my RIGHTEOUS KNOWLEDGE"..


PLEASE - GROW UP.


This is all immature talks from the EGO and PRIDE.

We are all here to learn from each other, and nobody really knows more than anyone else, just DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES to SHARE (and most of the time we agree more so with a certain reaction to situations from other's experiences such as NEXTing, INDIFFERENCE, etc).

Be well.

Exodus
I simply dont agree. Im not saying the sosuave community has the IQ of a ping pong ball.....but when I get people saying that my girlfriend will eventually cheat, and they draw this conclusion from her cleaning my kitchen....there is nothing to "learn" from them. Period.

Also have to disagree about everyone being the "same". We have different experiences sure....but some learn their lessons faster than other members and simply come here to help speed along that process for other guys.
 

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If we are a bunch of morons then why don't you make up your own website? Mate, you have a lot to learn in knowing how to be in relationships. Women can do all sorts of things for you when their interest is high after it subsides their interest declines and they stop doing it and don't think for a minute that she won't cheat or leave you someday. It can happen to anybody but with your holier than thou thinking you will never see it coming.
 

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TheException said:
1. I dont come here to "receive advice".

There is an overwhelming number of posters who are quick to give advise but lack the real qualifications to be giving any advice. Its not arrogant to recognize that I(or any members for that matter) would not benefit from listening to the majority of men here. I learn and experience growth in other ways.
everybody can benefit from recieving advice, that is how you grow into becoming a better man. closing off your mind makes you narrowminded lacking in what you need to know. what qualifications do you have giving advice when you can't see the problems in your own relationship?
 

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TheException said:
1. I dont come here to "receive advice".

There is an overwhelming number of posters who are quick to give advise but lack the real qualifications to be giving any advice. Its not arrogant to recognize that I(or any members for that matter) would not benefit from listening to the majority of men here. I learn and experience growth in other ways.

2. Your right, I didnt talk about her faithfullness, ability to handle conflicts, etc. YET....assumptions are being made that she is low quality. People that make rash assertions based upon close to zero evidence are fools. You can seek out different things all you want in women, but a women who goes out of her way to please her man is NEVER a negative or a red flag. Period.
you may or may not be right, not my place to judge. time will tell. the red flag isn't that she does things for you, it's the OTHER stuff. but i rest my case. i have a feeling you won't listen to anything others say because you think everybody is a KJ coming here to babble about stuff they don't understand.

i really wish for you to be happy with your girl. in situations like these i'w be glad to be wrong. it's likely i will find some quality woman myself sometimes. i already had some, and have a plate even now close to what i want. but i also wish when i will find that, i will not pedestalize her, but treat her as an equal human being.
 

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Thought I'd pipe up here...

My ex BPD train wreck used to clean my house and make dinners for us... great. Still didn't make up for the fact that she wouldn't work and her womb was SO POLLUTED she couldn't make a baby! Haha. Seriously though she was a drug addict and alcoholic that didn't work out and was a verbally abusive b1tch when drunk... being Suzy Homemaker is no sure sign of future stability... it doesn't hurt, but it doesn't mean she won't stop in the months years to come and ask for a maid or b1tch about you not doing it and hold up her meager efforts as a trophy....

What makes a good woman? The one I'm seeing now is ACES.

1) HAS A JOB. A real job that pays tons of cash and she's been there over 10 years. She takes pride in it and is responsible as fvck.

2) Works out Daily - Her body is so tight you could break walnuts on her... or other nuts... :D

3) She's a Giver - Yup. She INSISTS on splitting bills and paying for me as much as possible.

4) Future Finances - She owns two properties and is saving up for retirement. DAMN. Never thought that would be a turn on.

5) Not a Junkie or Alcoholic - Likes her red wine... but when drunk tends to sing instead of scream at me. Does not do drugs.

6) Wants to Be a Mom - Really. She wants to be a mom. She also wants a long term relationship. She communicates. She's kind. Even if we did get married and then divorced I know she's not the type that will turn me into a complete villain in the eyes of a kid.

That to me is the full package for an LTR. She also doesn't have any previous kids... is 4 years younger than me... and DAMN she is not hard on the eyes.
 

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Johnny Alias said:
My ex BPD train wreck used to clean my house and make dinners for us... great. Still didn't make up for the fact that she wouldn't work and her womb was SO POLLUTED she couldn't make a baby! Haha. Seriously though she was a drug addict and alcoholic that didn't work out and was a verbally abusive b1tch when drunk... being Suzy Homemaker is no sure sign of future stability... it doesn't hurt, but it doesn't mean she won't stop in the months years to come and ask for a maid or b1tch about you not doing it and hold up her meager efforts as a trophy....

What makes a good woman? The one I'm seeing now is ACES.

1) HAS A JOB. A real job that pays tons of cash and she's been there over 10 years. She takes pride in it and is responsible as fvck.

2) Works out Daily - Her body is so tight you could break walnuts on her... or other nuts... :D

3) She's a Giver - Yup. She INSISTS on splitting bills and paying for me as much as possible.

4) Future Finances - She owns two properties and is saving up for retirement. DAMN. Never thought that would be a turn on.

5) Not a Junkie or Alcoholic - Likes her red wine... but when drunk tends to sing instead of scream at me. Does not do drugs.

6) Wants to Be a Mom - Really. She wants to be a mom. She also wants a long term relationship. She communicates. She's kind. Even if we did get married and then divorced I know she's not the type that will turn me into a complete villain in the eyes of a kid.

That to me is the full package for an LTR. She also doesn't have any previous kids... is 4 years younger than me... and DAMN she is not hard on the eyes.
Id agree with everything you wrote. Sounds like you found a high quality woman.

I merely was pointing out that little acts of kindness as demonstrated in the post are high quality behavior. Never once said you should ignore red flags or all the negatives simply because she cleans.
 

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TheException said:
I merely was pointing out that little acts of kindness as demonstrated in the post are high quality behavior. .
Again, they are not. They are what a normal woman should do.
 
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