Red pill vs Black pill

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Nah, this is bull****. I know at least two fat guys who bang hot women on a regular basis. This alone proves that blackpill is just a delusion. Even when it comes to online dating you can create an attractive image of yourself with the right photos, for example by showing cool hobbies, a nice apartment, a luxury car, awesome style, etc. Physically attractive men have it easier, that's for sure... unless they are introverts who barely talk to women or have serious social anxiety, I've met a couple of guys like this and they are virgins in their mid-twenties even if they both are at least 8/10 in looks.

You guys need to understand that less than 1% of guys have real charisma and natural game, while at least 5% of guys have the right looks. Strong inner game and confidence are much rarer than looks, so they are even more sought after by women.

oh the stretched grey anecdotal claim to help your argument. Is this guy in a social circle? Is this guy rich? Are these girls actually hot? Is it only going for damaged brown/Asian whitewashed women? See what I mean? I know for a fact a fat guy with average pictures wouldn’t get much off of online dating for sure, your claim is highly SUS

 

[corrector]

All of this is just opinion. People see things from different perspectives based on their own experiences. I doubt a channel called "Incel TV" is going to have a vey positive outlook on life.

Why would you figure it doesn't have a positive outlook on life? Are you saying life has no value beyond women?

 

[corrector]

oh the stretched grey anecdotal claim to help your argument. Is this guy in a social circle? Is this guy rich? Are these girls actually hot? Is it only going for damaged brown/Asian whitewashed women? See what I mean? I know for a fact a fat guy with average pictures wouldn’t get much off of online dating for sure, your claim is highly SUS

That is just the thing. A sub-5 white guy can get an Asian/Indian gf. So, allot of claims on here are suspect, especially when you see threads like Asian vs Western women get substantially more replies and views than @mikedee cold approach thread. If that's not race-pill/black-pill then I'm not sure what is. I'll tell you who he's not seeing, no 20-26 year old hb7+ Stacies.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

That is just the thing. A sub-5 white guy can get an Asian/Indian gf. So, allot of claims on here are suspect, especially when you see threads like Asian vs Western women get substantially more replies and views than @mikedee cold approach thread. If that's not race-pill/black-pill then I'm not sure what is. I'll tell you who he's not seeing, no 20-26 year old hb7+ Stacies.

Exactly, had a guy on here talk major **** in one of my early topics and I he later admitted that this guy was meeting peasant rice paddy farmer girls in the Philippines and a lot of posters defended him lmao

 

[corrector]

I've been looking at this other video here:

Based on what this video is saying I don't think I'm a sub-5. Listen to what they say about what a true sub-5 ethnic, or even sub-5 white guy experiences out there. Its a world that's as unfamiliar as a Chad/Chadlite. There is a world where women are totally repulsed by you, walk up to you and make rude comments, make things ultra-difficult to you at work, call the police on you if you approach, or look at you like you are dogsh-t to be avoided. Wow. I'm complaining that I feel invisible. They are complaining that being invisible is the best treatment they have got! I'm complaining about what a sub-5 wants. This means I'm probably a black-pilled normie that's a 5-7 (depending on the target girl) with the JBW -2 reduction probably just affecting mainly white-washed ethnics and some white-washed blacks.

I'm not sure if it makes sense to pay someone to rate my face and give me a potential looksmax score. However, it may be helpful even as a normie if there is a hope to improve my appearance, by going to the Gym, at least based on my face, to see if it can bump it up to chadlite, or even whitemaxxing potential (ie if my looks are well in the normie range already) I do not know the horror movies being played out by some men. But I'm glad I found that video. Some people really have it hard. Watch that video and see for yourself.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I've been looking at this other video here:

Based on what this video is saying I don't think I'm a sub-5. Listen to what they say about what a true sub-5 ethnic, or even sub-5 white guy experiences out there. Its a world that's as unfamiliar as a Chad/Chadlite. There is a world where women are totally repulsed by you, walk up to you and make rude comments, make things ultra-difficult to you at work, call the police on you if you approach, or look at you like you are dogsh-t to be avoided. Wow. I'm complaining that I feel invisible. They are complaining that being invisible is the best treatment they have got! I'm complaining about what a sub-5 wants. This means I'm probably a black-pilled normie that's a 5-7 (depending on the target girl) with the JBW -2 reduction probably just affecting mainly white-washed ethnics and some white-washed blacks.

I'm not sure if it makes sense to pay someone to rate my face and give me a potential looksmax score. However, it may be helpful even as a normie if there is a hope to improve my appearance, by going to the Gym, at least based on my face, to see if it can bump it up to chadlite, or even whitemaxxing potential. I do not know the horror movies being played out by some men. But I'm glad I found that video. Some people really have it hard. Watch that video and see for yourself.

If you are a minority then it's going to be harder to judge you on his scale. You can have girls be repulsed by you just because you are black regardless of your looks, status, and etc. However, You can have girls fetishize you because you are black. You could be a chad lite, but be a sub-5 if you are trying to meet women in a racist ****hole like Nashville, Tn or St. Louis, MO. When I moved to a major diverse city from redneck Nashville, TN, my experiences with women changed completely.

 

[bat soup]

Why would you figure it doesn't have a positive outlook on life? Are you saying life has no value beyond women?

No, I'm saying the opposite. "Incel TV" is totally focussed on women and what they supposedly find attractive.

 

[corrector]

If you are a minority then it's going to be harder to judge you on his scale. You can have girls be repulsed by you just because you are black regardless of your looks, status, and etc. However, You can have girls fetishize you because you are black. You could be a chad lite, but be a sub-5 if you are trying to meet women in a racist ****hole like Nashville, Tn or St. Louis, MO. When I moved to a major diverse city from redneck Nashville, TN, my experiences with women changed completely.

What diverse city did you move to? If the city is more diverse isn't there more whitewashed ethnics?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

What diverse city did you move to? If the city is more diverse isn't there more whitewashed ethnics?

I live in Houston, and there's not a lot of whitewashed ethnics. TBH you are going to find them in every city, but I can see it being worse in San Francisco, Austin, and Seattle where the cities are economically dominated by white men in tech jobs. I've also been to Asia and this narrative of Asian women being obsessed with white men is highly over exaggerated from men that visit military base towns where whitewash ethnics go towards(like how mudshark white women will go to black clubs lol). If you go outside these particular areas then the women will most likely not give two fvcks about you lol.

Cities I would recommend for minorities, no arranged order

1) Los Angeles
2) Houston
3) Dallas
4) NYC
5) Miami
6) Atlanta
7) DC
8) Chicago
9) Charlotte- I'm not really sure
10) Minneapolis- This one is weird, it's good for banging hot white women, but they tend to have mental issues

Cities I would avoid- any white mecca booming fleet city or decaying rust belt city
1) Denver
2) Austin
3) San Francisco
4) Seattle
5) Nashville
6) Philadelphia
7) Detroit
8) Portland
9) Cincinnati

Cities that I'm unsure about....Phoenix, Las Vegas, Tampa Bay, Boston,

 

[corrector]

I live in Houston, and there's not a lot of whitewashed ethnics. TBH you are going to find them in every city, but I can see it being worse in San Francisco, Austin, and Seattle where the cities are economically dominated by white men in tech jobs. I've also been to Asia and this narrative of Asian women being obsessed with white men is highly over exaggerated from men that visit military base towns where whitewash ethnics go towards(like how mudshark white women will go to black clubs lol). If you go outside these particular areas then the women will most likely not give two fvcks about you lol.

Cities I would recommend for minorities, no arranged order

1) Los Angeles
2) Houston
3) Dallas
4) NYC
5) Miami
6) Atlanta
7) DC
8) Chicago
9) Charlotte- I'm not really sure
10) Minneapolis- This one is weird, it's good for banging hot white women, but they tend to have mental issues

Cities I would avoid- any white mecca booming fleet city or decaying rust belt city
1) Denver
2) Austin
3) San Francisco
4) Seattle
5) Nashville
6) Philadelphia
7) Detroit
8) Portland
9) Cincinnati

Cities that I'm unsure about....Phoenix, Las Vegas, Tampa Bay, Boston,

....and TORONTO?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

....and TORONTO?

I've never been to Toronto, but I've been to Vancouver and Winterpeg. Why is Toronto so bad?

 

[corrector]

I've never been to Toronto, but I've been to Vancouver and Winterpeg. Why is Toronto so bad?

Its just a reputation of being one of the most difficult places to meet women. Women here tend to be in their own social circles, cliques or little world and it doesn't feel very inviting to do cold approaches as you'll normally get a "what do you want from me vibe?". This city has incel van attacks and has put incel as a terrorist label. There are women living on my same neighbourhood that they are like worlds apart, it wouldn't make a difference to me as I may just live in a desert island. The timing is also different. I grew up in my neighbourhood, and in the 80s you basically knew all of the neighbours in the same cohort, but today everyone is a perpetual stranger.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Its just a reputation of being one of the most difficult places to meet women. Women here tend to be in their own social circles, cliques or little world and it doesn't feel very inviting to do cold approaches as you'll normally get a "what do you want from me vibe?". This city has incel van attacks and has put incel as a terrorist label. There are women living on my same neighbourhood that they are like worlds apart, it wouldn't make a difference to me as I may just live in a desert island. The timing is also different. I grew up in my neighbourhood, and in the 80s you basically knew all of the neighbours in the same cohort, but today everyone is a perpetual stranger.

A lot of US cities are like that, not all cities are created equal lol

 

[Kotaix]

It doesn't matter where you move to or what you do. If you're stuck up on why you fail, then you will continue to fail.

All I hear are excuses.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

It doesn't matter where you move to or what you do. If you're stuck up on why you fail, then you will continue to fail.

All I hear are excuses.

Disagree, if you are put in a toxic environment then you will eventually become toxic yourself...Just like you are the average of the 5 people you associate with the most. Can that person go from a toxic to a healthy environment and turn everything around? Sure, but it depends on how damaged the person is and it will definitely not be an overnight process.

 

[Velasco]

Correct. You are the product if your environment. This includes the content you consume. Consume enough incels videos, fake YouTuber gurus, and this will be the way you think the world works.

Why you get guys like corector, that xeno guy, and dj mature (?)

 

[Bigpapa]

Correct. You are the product if your environment. This includes the content you consume. Consume enough incels videos, fake YouTuber gurus, and this will be the way you think the world works.

Why you get guys like corector, that xeno guy, and dj mature (?)

it is much easier to focus on finding stupid arguments on why you are failing , no matter how childish or retarded They are , than To take responsibility for your life

a masculine man takes responsibility of him , his wife , his children , his parents , his friends , etc etc

this is basically the masculine energy , without it you are just a woman with a penis . Basically a tranny

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

it is much easier to focus on finding stupid arguments on why you are failing , no matter how childish or retarded They are , than To take responsibility for your life

a masculine man takes responsibility of him , his wife , his children , his parents , his friends , etc etc

this is basically the masculine energy , without it you are just a woman with a penis . Basically a tranny

But this doesn't solve the root of the problem. For example, a guy could be trying to lose weight and hit the gym as much as he can, but the root of the problem was his diet. No matter what alpha sounding Boot strap advice you give him, he's never going to lose weight and will eventually give up. In some cases, maybe it is a work ethic issue and this is what the person needs to become successful.

 

[Bigpapa]

But this doesn't solve the root of the problem. For example, a guy could be trying to lose weight and hit the gym as much as he can, but the root of the problem was his diet. No matter what alpha sounding Boot strap advice you give him, he's never going to lose weight and will eventually give up. In some cases, maybe it is a work ethic issue and this is what the person needs to become successful.

true , but people are focusing on excuses rather than focusing on the root cause problem on

If you are a weirdo , maybe it makes more sense to learn on how not to be one , rather than watching stupid things on YouTube

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

true , but people are focusing on excuses rather than focusing on the root cause problem on

If you are a weirdo , maybe it makes more sense to learn on how not to be one , rather than watching stupid things on YouTube

Where else would they go? These people lack influential masculine men in their life and the other people are just going to call them losers/lazy and ignore the plight of their issues. Then comes Jordan Peterson and these things on YouTube that actually acknowledge some roots of their problem or gives them sympathy and that starts the cycle.