Re-Inventing myself online.

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Alright Luke, I've been reading your threads for a while now and I feel like I can help you as well.

I was baptized Catholic and went to Catholic school for 13 years. Anytime a Bible or religious category comes up on Jeopardy I dominate it. My past is probably similar to yours - minus the overbearing/overprotective parents. I'm a decent person. I go to church almost every Sunday. I try not to sin. I don't lie, cheat, steal or make fun of anyone. I have pre-marital sex and drink way too much. I think those are the biggest strikes I have against me.

Anyway, my point is that I'm like Bible Belt in that I'm probably in a similar disposition where I can help you. Bible Belt seems like he is doing a good job of pointing you in the right direction, so I'm going to try to add some advice.

I'm sure you're realizing you have to ditch the online dating services, and if you haven't come to that conclusion yet Bible Belt will force you to have that epiphany soon. I'll give you a good alternative to help you get on the right path.

Find a church where younger people go, people your age, not elderly people and start attending it. You'll find these churches are often vehicles for younger people to socialize and make new friends. If you live in a city with a big college, find the church nearest to the campus (hopefully it's your denomination). Start going there on Sunday afternoons/evenings or Saturday evenings. Whatever you do don't go in the mornings because only older people will be there. Usually churches for younger people will have a meet-and-greet before mass starts where everyone is called upon to introduce themselves to the people sitting around them before services get underway. All you have to do is go to church at the same time/day every weekend and sit in the same spot, and you will start recognizing and introducing yourself to the same people each Sunday because I'm sure you know how church is: Everyone sits in the same spot every Sunday unless they're late or something. Find some girls who are sitting alone and not with guys, for obvious reasons. Sit by them, and you will be forced to introduce yourself. It won't be awkward because everyone is doing it. Keep sitting in that same spot, and I guarantee you the same girls sit there every weekend. Eventually, you're going to build an acquaintance with them because you'll keep introducing yourselves to one another.

This is a no-brainer Luke, and it's infinitely easier than toggling with an online dating profile to reinvent yourself.

If you can't find a particular church that does the meet-and-greet (believe me you can), simply find a church that has a lot of young people in its congregation. These types of churches always have social events for their younger members to get to know each other. This past weekend, I played a flag football game in the grassy knoll in my church's lot. It was really easy to get to know some new people, even though I wasn't there to make new friends. I just like flag football and I'm overly competitive. Churches that have young people make up its congregation will always have events like these. Some of them even have singles nights (I'm dead serious) where they invite the single members of the church to a mixer where they do some unimportant activity to get to know each other. This is the one venue where your virgin status will actually work in your favor.

What you're going to find is, young people at church are very open to meeting new people and socializing. Especially single women and men - both of whom are looking for potential mates at church at all times because there is a stereotype that exists among a lot of religious people that the rest of the world is Godless. You and I probably don't believe that, but it is a widely-held theory nonetheless. Heck, my mom and dad met at church, and it's because of this exact reason. Both of them are religious and only felt comfortable with like-minded people. Church was the natural place for them to start mate selections.

I almost posted this a couple of months ago but figured I would get flamed back to the stone age for a religious post. You have to believe me when I say this: Church is an excellent venue for meeting women. Their guard will be down completely because they are at church, and it will be literally impossible for you not to meet a girl or two. If you fail at this, it will be because you are ignoring the opportunities.

Currently, I'm talking to the girl who canters at our church. She is 20 and is cute, but I think my partying is probably a definite deal-breaker.

Meeting girls at church is twenty times easier than on a dating Web site. I really, really want you to give this a try. You have absolutely nothing to lose. Girls there are going to accept you for who you are and the best part is your dad will not disapprove of any girl you met at church.
 

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One quick follow-up:

From a moral standpoint, there is nothing wrong this. You have no hidden agenda to sleep with the women. There is nothing to feel guilty about. You are simply looking for a woman who holds the same religious values as you, and church is the perfect venue for that.

I used to laugh at your posts, but I've decided I'm in your corner now. Ignore these idiot flamers, and let's keep this thread on subject. You're going to come out on top here.
 

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Why would you reinvent yourself online? Why not reinvent yourself in real life? Stop trying to take the easy way out. Its why you get lackluster results. If getting girls was losing weight, you'd be one of the fat asses who sit around popping diet pills. What you put in is what you get out.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Yeah he is, and I am going to be the one to get him laid. I am pointing to the fences on this one.
No one can get luke laid. He is unwilling to take REAL LIFE action. You can not make him.

This guy is soooo far away form the picture of masculinity it's a joke. He is scared of his mommy, are you fvcking serious!



Luke! Why will you not take REAL LIFE action?
I was brought up to be an AFC but I moved out of home at 17!! I had absolutely no money and no friends but it was the greatest thing I have ever done. Then I found this site and I have never been the same because I take action!

You need to become a man. You look and act nothing like a man.

I would give you a few things to do to help you become a man but you would not listen. You like to take the road of least resistance in life. This road leads to nothing!

You are waisting the life god gave you!
 
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Luke, remember Jesus was boinking that Mary Magdalane ho and didn't let his 'virgin' momma stop him.
It seems everybody has their own version "Jesus" to justify their own lifestyles, except for the correct one.
 

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No you're using Jesus to justify your failure!
 

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Jesus preached the Commandments of Moses. Do you think Moses let a woman push him around? Do you think Jesus let his Mommy tell him what to?

You say that everyone has their own Jesus to justify themselves, but are you and your Mom any different, with your alternative-reality of piety, where women run the show, contrary to what the Bible teaches? If religion is so important to you, then be the kind of man that the Bible teaches to you to be. Letting a women tell you what to do is a perversion like any other.
 
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I think if Luke got an escort, the guilt afterward would be too much for him to handle.

This gf/fb of mine says she is thinking about trying the escort thing, her ex-stripper friends keep suggesting it. I am actually not against the idea, as it would give me free license to have all the fun on the side that I wanted.

And Luke, regarding your std fears that we got into on another thread, this wannabe escort girl has had sex with about half the town. I've known her for a long time; she once confided in me long ago that she had HPV. And you know what? I don't care. She's on the depo shot, so I don't even use a condom. You'd be petrified to stick your d!ck in this girl if you knew what I knew, yet I do it every day. Do you know the difference between you and I? That is other than regular sex (and possibly a trip or two to the std clinic on my part :) ) ......nothing, or at least nothing tangible. It's all in your head. Either you can embrace risk and have a fun life, or you can worry yourself to death about everything and watch life go by from your quiet safety, as other people live it up and enjoy themselves.
I generally agree with most everything you say on here. In fact, I consider you in the upper echelons of credible information. I always read your posts.

But you lost me on this one, man. You sound exactly like my best guy friend who will fück anything unprotected at any time and doesn't care about the ramifications.

I agree that if you spend your entire life worrying about the risk of everything and not ever taking chances, you miss out on a lot in life. But even being careful, I've already gone through an unexpected pregnancy with one girl and a miscarriage with another. And I remember the awful feeling of waiting for the results of the HIV test to come back after groupsex with girls I didn't know.

Not only that, but I know several people with herpes, and one guy who has had gonorrhea twice. I honestly don't understand how people can just throw all caution out the window. You have to find a middle ground.



Luke - Other than that, listen to all of what Bible Belt has said here. He's absolutely right.

Independence breeds confidence which breeds success with women. You can choose to work on your looks first or waiting another year to become more financially stable or creating psychological barriers or whatever else you can come up with to justify staying exactly where you are right now and not changing anything. Or you can start right this very minute and lay out a plan as to how you're going to get out from under your mom's thumb.

I relate to you a lot more than you realize. I don't live with my parents, but for reasons I won't go into, they still have much more impact on my life that I'm comfortable with. And I am currently in the process of severing those ties.

Get out from under your parents first. That should be priority one. After that, you'll be amazed at how everything else suddenly seems a bit easier and how it naturally seems to fall into place.
 
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I have decided to work on looks, (ie weight-loss and building muscle mass) first. The primary reason is I have to watch out for my health - where there is an increased cancer risk from being obese, as studies have recently circulated on the news and internet, and well, I have a dead-line with this Herbal magic program to lose this eight by the end of March next year, and gradually improve my overall appearance. If I go through moving out and other stuff and dealing with other expenses of a mandatory nature - then this health effort would likely fall through the cracks until that is stabalized.

The other solution would have been to just go on debt with everything, rrsp's, this health program, stay in debt on the student loan and use funds to move out, yet, I'm trying to get myself out of debt which defeats the purpose. I have suffered in the past with a bad credit record and want to close that chapter of my life once and for all - this is part of DJ self-improvement too, right? Fact is I'm doing something to improve something somewhere and will continue to do so. Just I'm not ready to move out just this yet, but will keep it in mind.
 

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Hey, Nexus, thanks for the compliment. Regarding condoms, here is something I just posted about them on the mm forum:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1269359#post1269359
I realize that I have an unusual opinion. I am actually (usually) very selective in who I will have sex with.

And Luke, just for fun, float the idea of moving out on your own past your Mom and watch her fly off the handle. If she acts non-chalant, then she does not believe that you would move. You need to start testing her and pushing boundaries. You don't listen to much advice, but if you did, I'd tell you to go find the most tattoed, pierced, goth chick, freak looking girl in your city and bring her home to mom. If you are thinking about paying a girl for sex, don't. Pay a tattoed freak to come hang out at your house and pretend to be your gf just to weird out your mother. Now that would be fun. Hell, if I lived near you, I would go find that girl for you so you, her and Mom could all hang out. Now that would be fun.

And all of us can work out more, but you are not fat, did you realize that? You can make self-improvement an excuse just like anything else. Excuses are not productive.

Can you get a night job? Being a bar tender would be great for you. Even working at a service-sector job would expose you to girls and help save money for your own place.

I am going to bug you for some church FRs, since you said you would be going that. Sunday is approaching.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
I have decided to work on looks, (ie weight-loss and building muscle mass) first. The primary reason is I have to watch out for my health - where there is an increased cancer risk from being obese, as studies have recently circulated on the news and internet, and well, I have a dead-line with this Herbal magic program to lose this eight by the end of March next year, and gradually improve my overall appearance. If I go through moving out and other stuff and dealing with other expenses of a mandatory nature - then this health effort would likely fall through the cracks until that is stabalized.
Getting into shape is a great thing for you to do. I've seen those pictures of you. You don't look badly overweight or anything, so you should get a decent pair of running shoes (Asics or Brooks) and start jogging. This is a great way to lose weight. I wouldn't worry about putting on a ton of muscle mass. Big muscles are kind of overrated and girls don't care about them as much as guys think. Just stay fit.

A good way to get your body used to running long distances is by going to a track at a local high school or something. There, run in intervals. Run hard for about 100 meters and jog very lightly for another 100 meters. Repeat this trade-off until you feel exhausted. This is an exercises middle-distance and long-distance runners do to get themselves in shape in the early part of a track season. It's called "Sprint a Cone, Jog a Cone" and is named for the cones that sit at every 100-meter point on a quarter-mile track. The biggest downfall of the exercise is that it can put some wear and tear on your legs if you do it too much, but since you've never ran before you'll be fine. For you it'll be a great way to wake your lungs up and get your legs feeling strong.

Do this exercise three times a week for a couple weeks. After those two weeks, let your legs rest for three days and go out for a jog. You'll probably be able to run for 1.5 miles or maybe even more than that. Keep jogging about three or four times a week and watch what you eat. You will drop a lot of weight really fast at first, and the distances you will be able to run will keep increasing. You'll have some off-days where you won't even be able to run a mile, but you can't get discouraged. Bad days happen to even the best runners and weight lifters in the world.

Your weight loss may taper off and become more gradual after the first three weeks of running and eating right, but don't get discouraged. Keep running and your metabolism will speed up. The result will be a fitter body. Start doing some ab exercises once you've lost some weight, and you'll be able to get some definition in your midsection with all the fat gone. You might even want to start lifting weights then as well.

I think getting physically fit would be a great step for you take. A lot of my friends give me crap because I lift weights and run a lot. They tell me I'm obsessive and I have a good enough metabolism that I don't need to run, but what they don't understand is staying physically fit isn't about looking good for the ladies or trying to get buff. It's a great way to feel good about yourself - for me at least. If I'm going out on a date or hooking up with a girl or something, I will run a solid five miles because it will give me an emotional high and put me in the zone.

Getting in shape would be a great way for you to "work on yourself" as you say.
 

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You must be fit to run, don't run to get fit!
Only run if you have a good technique and already in good shape ie. not too heavy, or you will get injuries. A pushbike and diet overhaul is a better option but you should hit the weights to get that testosterone flowing.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Hey, Nexus, thanks for the compliment. Regarding condoms, here is something I just posted about them on the mm forum:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1269359#post1269359
I realize that I have an unusual opinion. I am actually (usually) very selective in who I will have sex with.
That is some scary sh!t! Well not all of us would be happy with a baby. In fact it would be the end of the life I want to leave. Sure I will go bare back with a LTR that I love and trust but thats it. Do you really think you can trust these women in your life? I don't think you can, especially if they know you sleep with other women.
You are older then most guys in this section of the forum and it may be ok for you to have a kid at this stage in your life but I don't think you should influence any of these kids with this. A kid also costs a lot of money!
 
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I've already joined Herbal Magic yesterday http://www.herbalmagic.ca for weight loss - it costs about a couple grand but the results are guaranteed, I'm already portioning the meals. Once I reach a certain weight (ie. lose about 40 lbs) then the focus would be converting the remaining weight to muscle mass, but exercise could be an asset of my wieght loss levels start pleatauing.

I've tried relentlessly since January this year to lose weight and get into shape and have failed time after time after time to convince me that I need help, and I see this as an investment in myself that's tax-rite off on health expense anyway.

I really appreciate the 'independence' advice and 'moving out' advice, but my mom is a senior and has to be taken out every day otherwise she'll just rot inside this home without me, so I have to take care of her. I'll keep the option still on thought, I'm just a bit confused on this perticular platform. I have a trump card of my own now, if my mom crosses me, and asks me to take her out, I wont and let her stay here while I do something else, so that should even things out a bit.
 

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my mom is a senior and has to be taken out every day otherwise she'll just rot inside this home without me, so I have to take care of her.

Or maybe that's just what she wants you to think! Everyone over 30 has a mom who is a senior. That does not mean we all live with them and let them boss us around. That woman has you wrapped around her finger. Why are you even bothering chasing girls, Luke? If you can't stand up to Mom, then you will never be able to stand up to a girl. There's no point in getting a gf if you will just be whipped.

And you dropped two grand on a weight loss program, but you don't have the money to get your own place? :kick:
 
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[And you dropped two grand on a weight loss program, but you don't have the money to get your own place? :kick:
No, the program could potentially cost that much, I've only paid five hundred on it thus far to join up on it thus far, if I lose my weight fast enough it would be likely less than that - I'm sticking to the program very seriously so it should just be dipping down soon. Anyway, the fact of the matter is since January this year I've unsuccessfully tried to manage and control the weight, but it kept creeping higher no matter what efforts I have tried and at this point I have to do something, or I'll just continue increasing weight without having the proper set-up to help me lose it.
 
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Online response appears to have improved to a ratio between 1/3 to 1/2 of emails sent out that are getting a response, it has somewhat helped my 'online morale' a bit to see I'm getting some replies - and people who have not replied appear to have the emails standing there.

I'm rather feeling depressed for some reason or slow to follow up with the leads and try to do something, it's like I get the impression most people on there are flat or something and the only one girl that really 'animated' me was a oneitis from last year - but I'm going to keep trying, I'm just going to practise with anyone whether I'm interested or not.

In a sence I like that feeling of being 'animated' by someone - where you feel that energy, passion and desire that you'll jump across buildings if it meant saving her sort of desire, you know someone that would really bring out that true romantic - maybe it's just me, but I should really look into following up with the leads I have I suppose.
 

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Luke, I have been following some of your posts. I am not doing too well myself, but at least I have experienced sex and a relationship and being with a woman in all sorts of different ways. You seem like you are hung up on losing your virginity at the "perfect moment" to the "perfect person" or whatever. Not only that, but you keep putting things off for some reason, things that will really change your life for the better, like moving out of your parents place. I love my parents and all, but I think if I was stuck with my parents on a more then temporary basis, I think I would shoot myself lol. And my parents are not anywhere as controlling as your parents are, not even close.
About losing your virginity and getting your life going, think of it like this-you could step outside and get hit by a truck and be dead today. You could die at any time and right now if you die you will die a virgin. How does that make you feel? To have died without experiencing one of the great experiences of life? How would you feel if you were in an airplane that was falling out of the sky about to crash and blow up, and you are thinking you never even had sex?
 
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