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SheepSter

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The line I use the most:

me: Hey what's up?
she: Hi
me: Can I ask you a question? (ever noticed they always say yes)
she: Ok
me: Do you have a pretty smile?

They always smile :)

Don't respond immediately let them ask you what you think, just give her good EC and smile. Actions are stronger then words. She gives a smile as a response I give a smile back (=connection).

me: mmm...very nice, I guess you practice every night in front of the mirror? (give a big smile now)
she: (laughing) NO!
me: I thought you were a natural, just checking.
me: If you smile again I tell you my name.

We introduce and I try to take her along for a drink or simply #close. Notice that I do not give my name quickly, it builds mystery. Also the BF problem only comes at the end when she really has a BF in all other cases you won't have that prob.

Keep up the good work Pug
 

Pugsley_f5

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Hey sheeps thats some good stuff Im going to have to add that to my arnsenal, I need some other lines to use.......I really like that stufff......I was at work and out all night last night with friends from church at a party....and I had plenty of time to work my C+F and neghit skills I was able to go out for about 30 mins at walmart but nothing worth it in there that I saw........


I have a date with the First chick tonight so approaching tonight is out of the question DANGIT....guys she is totally into me though Ive been playing me game very well I think and I have her persuing me a little bit heres how things unfolded......


I was going to call her ....but after 10 days of waiting she called me out of the blue and I made it short and said I had to go (not in a rude way) and she basically told me her entire work schedule this week.....I told her Id prolly call her the next day which I did and I talked to her mom cause she was at work and her mom speaks ok english and she asked who this was:

Me: This is Chris
Her: Who?
Me: Chris
Her: Oh Oh OK OK (like she recognized the name and knew exactly who I was....I suspect her daughter had been talking to mommy about me :p little subtlety's I catch onto.)

Well she called me later that night and rang twice and hung up (cause it was late and she thought it was a bad idea to call that late.....) I wanted to call her yesterday soo badly......bud I got hold of myself and restrained...well what happens she calls me back and we setup a date for tonight (I teased her and got her laughing on the phone, were going bowling, good action date and maybe some coffee before or afterwards...not sure which one to do first.......But what i have been doing is showing interest, but not too much interest at all and moving forward emotionally and pulling back and she has been pursuing me a bit and I can tell shes nervous when she calls, its a good feeling though to actually have a hot girl chasing me!!!!!!!I love it.!!!!! Ive just been showing interest but leaving all the details up to her to figure out the ambiguity (if im into her or not).....so I think tonights gonna be awesome, shes very excited when she calls(could be a mask for nervousness) but I dont think theres going to be any lacks in the convo tonight or the laughing....not sure if I have the balls to kiss close tonight.......or if I should wait till the second date......we shall see any advice is welcome!!!!!




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Helter Skelter

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Pug,

Your doing great.

Listen, just enjoy yourself, don't feel pressure "I gotta do this or that" Have fun and do what feels right at the moment.

If you have to wait a little to kiss her, who cares.
 
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bonethugmug

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Even more motivation bro. Your out doing **** and enjoying yourself, I'm here on the CPU lol. It's all good, I am still making baby steps, but I still have a major fear of cold approaches. It is so inspiring to see your confidence growing day by day. And to think, less than 2 weeks ago how hard it was for you to do this. Man, screw it, I gotta get started somewhere.
 

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PUGS, a few comments and a question

1) The "are you single" approach is great in that it is very efficient. However, does efficient matter that much in a Borders or B+N store? I say that because I can't see someone approaching 10 chicks in an hour like that, I mean theres no reason you couldn't though.

2) Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but getting an e-mail is actually a great technique. Because it allows you to build interest with them slowly. First off never even ask for a date over e-mail. Talk a few times nonchalantly. If she answers she is interested. Keep it funny. Then after a few e-mails suggest coffee. The best way to do this is DYD method of saying "Hey do you have e-mail", then when she writes it down say "While your at it give me your number". Keep in mind you will contact her first with e-mail.

3) Do you do these approaches in the cafe part of Borders? I ask this because it has always bothered me to approach a girl when people are around and can hear me. Not sure why, but it has been a problem.
 

Mr. Delicious

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I went into Borders twice this past week for Christmas presents last week. I was looking to see how many hot girls were there by themselves. I had never noticed it before but there were tons!!! Each time I was there for about 10 minutes and both times I saw at least 6 hot girls by themselves.
 

david90

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i'm in ca and the bookstores here don't have any HB8-10. I wonder why.
 

Pugsley_f5

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Hey fellas, Just got back to work (thats where I have the Internet at and type to you all......hence no response on sundays)


Well I have to say the Date went AWESOME!........ Man guys she was about a 7.5 dressed down at borders when I met her....well i saw her when she got out of her car for the date she looked totally different dressed up, an immediate 8.5!!! I was like WHOA! Hello!! If you have ever seen one of those dark haired israeli beauties fair skin dark hair shes just like that Gorgeous face, Her body is about a 7.5 there but not shapely.....but her faces is drop dead gorgeous......the first thing I said to her, was "whoa you look totally different from when I met you" She took it as a negative at first then I joked with her about it......

Needless to say we had a blast, went bowling and then for a cup of coffee.....I had her laughing the whole night literally she was always laughing and smiling the whole time.....she has a Naive excitement about life and everything she does that I love.....shes gets excited about everything......we had tons of kino, No innappropriate though...I did most of it though a few times she iniatied it without me doing it.....She insisted on paying for the both of us for bowling and I pay for the coffee, I said no, she insisted, I let her do it, Heck I wasn't gonna argue about it.....

I was definatley funny the whole night, though when the pure ****y stuff came out her reaction wasn't as desired(not bad just different from her playfullness with the funny) Like I said "You know your lucky..." Her: Why? Me: "Cause you get to have a cup of coffee with a handsome bloke like myself"....................Her reaction wasn't negative or bad just got me insecure about saying anymore ****y one liners like that.......we had awesome convo over coffee, I did mostly listening and several times she said something to the effect of "So tell me about something about....? (yourself , your family) I see this as a good thing cause I was remaining mysterious as well as being a good listener...... but I need you all's input to tell me if this is good or not......

One thing that turned me on more than anything is the fact that she can bellydance (arabic ritual not wave) I find that INCREDIBLY sexy.......and that is something that I would want to have an a lifelong mate to be able to do can we say "Pug's on switch!!!"

Most of the Kino was subtle initiated by me.....one was outright after we were bowling........ as we were walking out I put my arm around her shoulder for a few secs and she reciprocated by putting her arm around my side..... I geuss you could say thats a good sign couldn't you?


Another cool thing about her was that she has a really positive outlook on life and is a very positive person.....I geuss another thing that could be good sign is when I was bowling she would always be clapping or cheering for me to get a strike and stuff (I kinda liked it) I liked her positivity and upbeatness, kinda like my personal cheerleader......she also made several future referenced statments (I can't remeber examples you know though stuff indicating something going past the first date.....)

I am still kicking myself though.....I kinda went AFC a little more than I realised and should have on the trip back to her car from the coffee house.....We had a VERY deep conversation on spirituality and God which went a little longer than I should have, needless to say we had pretty much the same views on God and life and she is a Christian....but we continued on the convo a little longer than I should have let it go, I just get fired up talking about God what can I say.....also part of this convo was talking about the things that were wrong with the world today spiritually and the date kinda ended talking about these topics, although we agreed, I shouldnt have let the date end talking on negative notes, and I think I opened up to her a little too much at the end of the date then I should have....although we didnt even talk about past relationships or anything we want in a man or a woman, and after the date I learned by reading the Bootcamp Papers that I should have elicited values to bring a stronger bond between me and her.....I geuss second date stuff (if there is one)

I got alot of positive buying signs from her, but me being an AFC at the end has REALLY put a hole in my self esteem armor and now Im worried that I will be put in the "Friends" catagory and I don't want that......I acted like an idiot, I should have gotten onto another topic and not exposed myself to such a deep convo on the first date.....also when we went back to her car in the lot.....I think I should have just said I need to go home and get some sleep, but we were in the middle of the deep convo and I didnt want it to end so I parked my car and turned it off and we talked for another 40 mins or so about spiritual values and such, I thne said I had to wake up early the next day and i walked her to her car and She initiated the hug and the night kinda ended we me saying have a good night, give me a call sometime...........


I got tons of buy signals from her in the beginning of the date and middle of it, at the end it was just deep deep spiritaul talk....Im just worried, cause I really like her now lol....I know I sound like an AFC, but I need the witch doctor to cure my case of oneitis......Heres my dilemma, if you all remember she was the first one to call me and ask for the date....and I let her make all the moves in setting up the date, I called her ONCE left a message and she had to call back twice to get ahold of me, I restrained myself from the temptation of wanting to call her before the date, heres the million dollar question, I showed some really ambiguous interest signals to her (kino, making her laugh) that could have told her I put her in the friends catagory depending on how she interpreted it.....considering the way she acted before the date, now should I call her and setup the next date or should I just wait for her to call me and setup the next one (my only fear is that, ill wait and she wont call (put me into the LJBF catagory) so I need your guys help with this what should I do, keep playing the waiting game, or make my interests known and go for another date....


The last convo was definatly an "as friends" type of talk and got off of the date mentality atmosphere and thats where the date left off at when she left so it has got me insecure and scared (I KNOW, AFC!!!)


I just need help, dissect what I have told you all soo far and tell me where changes need to be made on my dating game and as well what I should do about the next date arrangements......



As far as approaching I went out last night, picking were kinda scarce.....I approached one chick who unbeknownest to me was there with her BF, I find that after a few days out that fear starts to creep back out and rear its head.....and I start to really have doubts about approaching chicks , by just walking up to them without any context, like situational, or them walking near me....thats why I liked the "are you single approach" cause its an approach that needs to be done without context, and since I have started doing others my fear of that type of approach has crept back.....and im thinking about going back and doing the old approach to kill off that fear again.......The longer I got away from that approach the more that type of fear crept in.....


I am not sure what to do with the approach situation any advice welcome on how to handle this........


Heres how the approach went.....

She walks past me at the headphones station and I took of the headphones

Looked at her and said

Me: hey how are you?
Her: Fine (in a soft voice)
Me: You look familiar to me did we go to different schools together?
Her: I don't know.....sensing the different wording but couldnt put a finger on it...
Me: We didn't go to different schools together?
Her: No I dont think so....with a puzzled face
Me: I started smiling and laughinga and so did she I said I was just joking she smiled....and laughed went to another topic like the weather she seemed unwilling to talk so I just introduced myself and said bye.....................

Day 16
Approaches 24
Numbers 3
Dates 1

any advice welcome on the approaches or the date........

Pugs
 

CGE333

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Focus on Fun

Pugs,

Don't worry about doing everything right on a date just make sure you have fun and by you having fun she will too. If she was going to LJBF you because you had a deep convo than she was not that interested in you to begin with. From what you have said I don't think that is the case though. As far as contacting her. You contact her when you want to- don't worry about any hard a fast rule about waiting X # of days. Just call her up, say you are doing such and such on this day and see if she wants to join you. If she does (and she will) keep up the kino and kiss close her at the end.

PS Keep approaching and getting #'s. This will keep you busy so you dont call this one 10 times a day :)

Keep up the good work.
 

lbfan1638

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pugs, nice job with the date...however, u did make some mistakes which you are already aware of...dont talk about deep stuff like religion...thats definitely something a little too personal for the first date...thats also prolly why u have onenitis...when you're with a chick, focus more on action...and the conversation went on too long obviously...anyway, u did a good job overall and I'd assume that there will be another date since she did mention future plans...hmm...anyway leave the deep spiritual stuff for further down the line and focus on having fun right now...in addition, that fear that keeps creeping back...its always gonna be there...u just have to face the fear and do the approach anyway...keep approaching until you make it automatic...once you got it programmed in your brain, it wont be so hard...in conclusion, you are the man and keep us updated...its an inspiration to read your posts...
 

Ever onward

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I am still kicking myself though.....I kinda went AFC a little more than I realised and should have on the trip back to her car from the coffee house.....We had a VERY deep conversation on spirituality and God which went a little longer than I should have, needless to say we had pretty much the same views on God and life and she is a Christian....but we continued on the convo a little longer than I should have let it go, I just get fired up talking about God what can I say.....also part of this convo was talking about the things that were wrong with the world today spiritually and the date kinda ended talking about these topics, although we agreed, I shouldnt have let the date end talking on negative notes, and I think I opened up to her a little too much at the end of the date then I should have....although we didnt even talk about past relationships or anything we want in a man or a woman, and after the date I learned by reading the Bootcamp Papers that I should have elicited values to bring a stronger bond between me and her.....I geuss second date stuff (if there is one)


Here is my advice to you:

1. Don't be so logical. Don't talk about religion, politics, or boring everyday stuff. Keep it fun and playful, tease the hell out of her. The way to attract a woman is to appeal to her emotions. Use C + F, it is way underated in my opinion.

2. Use of kino is good. Get her used to you touching her and progressing to holding hands should be natural. This should keep you out of the friend zone.

3. Don't be afraid to be progressive. As the guy you have to keep things progressing from kino to hand holding to kissing. Don't worry that she might not be into you. You have to let go of the outcome to get anywhere with women.

4. End the interaction on a high note. Don't let it die a slow agonizing death.

4. Sounds like you have a severe case of One-itis already. You are already overanalyzing this situation far too much. Give that other girl a call, the one who was so eager to talk to you. Don't focus on any one particular girl. That is unless you are ready for a relationship and it is far too early for that. If you focus on this one girl too much, you will likely end up in the friendzone.

5. Keep approaching. You are an inspiration for all of us who should be doing what you are doing.
 

RedKnight04

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Pugs good post I like what your doing bro.

When you said she isn't into C + F, it isn't just saying "I'm the best," "Your lucky to go out" etc etc... Although I do say those but SPARINGLY -

Its the Role playing C + F that really sets the playful vibe. Read Fingers Weapons of Mass Seduction to get that real character and practice practice practice!!!

For some odd reason this starts getting them to chase you.

Like the other day at work I told this new hot chick working with me to stop touching me and that for each touch I will have to charge her $20 bucks.. I don't remember my exact words but you understand. What happened? She touches my ass now, funny how **** works out.
 

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I love it! Keep going for the 100.
 

Mr. Delicious

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Good job pugs. To me the date sounded like it went great overall. the stuff at the end wasnt great but its not detrimental either. Just give her another call when you feel like it.
 

Pugsley_f5

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I called her last night, she called me back later on I had my phone on vibrate so I didnt feel it, I didnt want to call back cause it was late....I called today, no one was home, shell call me back tonight.....I geuss its a good sign though that she did call me back last night when I left a message with her mom....that would be a good sign that shes still interested wouldnt it?
 
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