Helter Skelter
Master Don Juan
That won't happen, pugs in love.
Pug's 100 approach journal
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Pugsley_f5
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Helter, thank you for answering that post not far off the mark.....
Teen Spirit
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You're doomed, I tell you. You're all doomed.
Pugsley_f5
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eh suck it
Pugsley_f5, your thread has been an amazing motivation, your desire to get off you a55 and do something is fantastic.
What about this scenario:
You go out with this woman for 6 months, its great, you stop doing other approaches. All is well, but, things like marriage, children, religion, and so on start to become bigger issues. She feels crowded, it ends. Where are you then? You have not got a fall back, you have not raised your skills permanantly, and you probably have flesh eating bacteria called 'oneitis' all over you.
Why even think of marriage, let alone a relationship (that word is banned for three months with me), when you have dated the girl 4 or 5 times?
As I said, I respect what you have done so far, but be careful and guard your position well
What about this scenario:
You go out with this woman for 6 months, its great, you stop doing other approaches. All is well, but, things like marriage, children, religion, and so on start to become bigger issues. She feels crowded, it ends. Where are you then? You have not got a fall back, you have not raised your skills permanantly, and you probably have flesh eating bacteria called 'oneitis' all over you.
Why even think of marriage, let alone a relationship (that word is banned for three months with me), when you have dated the girl 4 or 5 times?
As I said, I respect what you have done so far, but be careful and guard your position well
myfriendblu
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Pugs, good stuff. Quick question - how old are you? That may be the ultimate deciding factor
I'm not quite finished reading this interesting journal, but I felt an urge commenting on this dialogue from page 5:
Me: Hey How are you doing?
Her: awesome and you?
Me: Im doing great..... and then I looked at the shelf for another 30 secs.....
Me: Hey you mind if I ask you a question?
Her: No, go ahead
Me: Are you single?
Her: Yes, I am but I didn't come in here for that
What you should have replied:
Me: Neither did I, but I have this thing.. I believe I can get a feel of what a person is like in a few moments just by observing body language, the way they move, and I liked you.. in those few moments, so I thought I'd like to get to know you better. Do you think I'm being a little silly?
There is no way in hell she would respond with a yes. SHe would most definetely smile and say something like - Of course not. Then you take on with the conversation, and mind that from what she said, I assume she suspected that you were there for 'that'. So you should talk about books, tell her you gonna go get a book, come back, talk again, leave together, suggest going for a coffee if she declines, thank her for the pleasent convo and bid her good day/night, then if she doesn't shout out her phone number while you're going away, you'll know you've done your part.
Pugs, I have deep respect for what you're doing and I'm not a douche not realizing why you're doing it - it is a good way, but like Trance said earlier, getting rid of fear of approacing does not equal success, I think you shouldn't be so... how should I put it... you should not limit yourself to just that initial approach thing, instead have your plan stretched past to getting her in a relationship. Just think of what your goal is; is it REALLY just to have no fear approaching? Will that make you happy? The point I'm trying to make is, don't let any of the good girls slip thru your fingers, and if you're making that plastic direct approach the odds are you're not going to end up with someone worth mentioning for a period of time worth mentioning. I don't know about you, but the way I see it, only a certain type of girls would let this 'cheap' approach and short convo pass for a phone number and I'm not sure I like this type; I'm much more for the type of girls that rejected you like the one from the dialogue above. So you approached her, you DIDN'T get rejected, your way of approaching obviously did, so I guess you have to change it.
Try to make your approach work like in a natural way, but for christ sake, hide that directness. I mean, being direct is cool, sometimes, but suppose you're meeting with your friend for a dring and she goes, "Jeeeesus Christ what's up with your cologne? It smells like cat sh*it in the sun, or do you not wear any cologne?" THat was direct, honest and very open hearted, but how did it make you feel? What if she instead said "Is that some new cologne you're wearing? I don't fancy it too much, I think *asdldfha* is much better." See where I'm going? You wan't to be direct, because it is the simplest way, but a relationship is never simple and the game of love does not involve many direct options.
EDIT: I've read all 12 pages. Pugsley, congratulations, I'm happy for ya.
FAKE EDIT: Don't let this stop you from reaching your goal of 100 approaches.
Me: Hey How are you doing?
Her: awesome and you?
Me: Im doing great..... and then I looked at the shelf for another 30 secs.....
Me: Hey you mind if I ask you a question?
Her: No, go ahead
Me: Are you single?
Her: Yes, I am but I didn't come in here for that
What you should have replied:
Me: Neither did I, but I have this thing.. I believe I can get a feel of what a person is like in a few moments just by observing body language, the way they move, and I liked you.. in those few moments, so I thought I'd like to get to know you better. Do you think I'm being a little silly?
There is no way in hell she would respond with a yes. SHe would most definetely smile and say something like - Of course not. Then you take on with the conversation, and mind that from what she said, I assume she suspected that you were there for 'that'. So you should talk about books, tell her you gonna go get a book, come back, talk again, leave together, suggest going for a coffee if she declines, thank her for the pleasent convo and bid her good day/night, then if she doesn't shout out her phone number while you're going away, you'll know you've done your part.
Pugs, I have deep respect for what you're doing and I'm not a douche not realizing why you're doing it - it is a good way, but like Trance said earlier, getting rid of fear of approacing does not equal success, I think you shouldn't be so... how should I put it... you should not limit yourself to just that initial approach thing, instead have your plan stretched past to getting her in a relationship. Just think of what your goal is; is it REALLY just to have no fear approaching? Will that make you happy? The point I'm trying to make is, don't let any of the good girls slip thru your fingers, and if you're making that plastic direct approach the odds are you're not going to end up with someone worth mentioning for a period of time worth mentioning. I don't know about you, but the way I see it, only a certain type of girls would let this 'cheap' approach and short convo pass for a phone number and I'm not sure I like this type; I'm much more for the type of girls that rejected you like the one from the dialogue above. So you approached her, you DIDN'T get rejected, your way of approaching obviously did, so I guess you have to change it.
Try to make your approach work like in a natural way, but for christ sake, hide that directness. I mean, being direct is cool, sometimes, but suppose you're meeting with your friend for a dring and she goes, "Jeeeesus Christ what's up with your cologne? It smells like cat sh*it in the sun, or do you not wear any cologne?" THat was direct, honest and very open hearted, but how did it make you feel? What if she instead said "Is that some new cologne you're wearing? I don't fancy it too much, I think *asdldfha* is much better." See where I'm going? You wan't to be direct, because it is the simplest way, but a relationship is never simple and the game of love does not involve many direct options.
EDIT: I've read all 12 pages. Pugsley, congratulations, I'm happy for ya.
FAKE EDIT: Don't let this stop you from reaching your goal of 100 approaches.
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I think that now that you're seeing someone you should continue approaching. This will take care of 2 things: you'll avoid oneitis, and you can do better and crazier approaches because even if you get blown off 100 times you can't get depressed because you're seeing this girl and you'll know the problem is in them!
sexual_intellectual
Don Juan
How about we let the dude learn from his mistakes, its not like he's a character in our DJ Discussion Board game that has to go with the majority vote of the thread. He's doing what he believes is the best, and if he was gonna take advice, he would have done by now...
MrCode
Senior Don Juan
OK, I've got to put my two cents into this thread.
First off, I'll add my accolades to the others Pugsley, this is a great thread and combined with things I've been reading outside of the boards it makes for great motivation. I too will make a similar mission to get over my fear of approaching, though I don't know if I'll post about it here.
Also, I'm so jealous over this fantastic girl you have here. I just love cute middle eastern women and it seems she has many other great qualities. But you've done the work you needed to do and you deserve this girl, so I wish you the best of luck. I was going to say I hope I can meet a girl like this but forget that, I'll make it a goal to find someone like this, and be determined to make that happen.
I also firmly believe in the principles from "Think and Grow Rich", which I've been seeing repeated over and over in various mediums that I've been processing lately (i.e. other books, audio programs, web sites, etc.) What you believe becomes your reality, and if you set a positive goal and are determined to get it, your subconcious and even the world around you will work to make it happen.
So again thanks for the motivation and keep us up to date on what happens with your dream girl.
First off, I'll add my accolades to the others Pugsley, this is a great thread and combined with things I've been reading outside of the boards it makes for great motivation. I too will make a similar mission to get over my fear of approaching, though I don't know if I'll post about it here.
Also, I'm so jealous over this fantastic girl you have here. I just love cute middle eastern women and it seems she has many other great qualities. But you've done the work you needed to do and you deserve this girl, so I wish you the best of luck. I was going to say I hope I can meet a girl like this but forget that, I'll make it a goal to find someone like this, and be determined to make that happen.
I also firmly believe in the principles from "Think and Grow Rich", which I've been seeing repeated over and over in various mediums that I've been processing lately (i.e. other books, audio programs, web sites, etc.) What you believe becomes your reality, and if you set a positive goal and are determined to get it, your subconcious and even the world around you will work to make it happen.
So again thanks for the motivation and keep us up to date on what happens with your dream girl.
MRomeo99
Don Juan
No offense brother, but from a virgin your theory is pretty untested. Trust me, I have made the mistake of getting involved with a woman who was really horrible in bed. I'm dating a yoga instructor, and she can quite literally almost make me pass out with the intensity of the orgasm. So, there is quite a lot to be said about technique. And also there is so much more that you are missing as well. For instance frequency of sex. I've dated women who want it a few times a day. And I've dated women who want it once a month. How will you know if you haven't tried it out? And what if you're not compatible. I dated this really, really cool girl. I loved hanging out with her, she was so much fun. Yet she wanted sex like once a month. I'm actually surprised I ended up going out with her for 4 months. You're a virgin yet, and the frequency in which you whack off is going to be different than how often you'll like to get ass. And the frequency depends on your partner as well. There were some partners where 3 times a day wasn't enough, and others where 3 times a week was perfect. But, when you're not on the same page, it really isn't a whole lot of fun.
And the difference between the best sex I've ever had, and the worst is like night and day. Probably the bottom 3-4 women I've slept with were completely pointless. I'd rather just be frustrated. And the top 2-3 were mindblowing. I guess that would be the worst part, for saving yourself until marriage. It's all well and good to theorize about how if you truly love someone it will work out. And quite another to love someone AND have them rock your world in bed.
With that said, even though I don't really agree with your theory. I will say that having sex with someone you truly care about is automatically MUCH better. But, there are limits to where that can take you. I respect your decision.
Good Luck.
--Romeo
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
Pugs, don't listen to the pro-sex before marriage crowd. They are forgetting about one thing: PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT. Even if your wife isn't that great at it on your wedding night, a month or two later she might have practiced enough to be amazing at it. It's not the same as a car test drive.
From one Christian who's saving it til marriage to another!
From one Christian who's saving it til marriage to another!
skinnydart
Master Don Juan
Yep
MRomeo99
Don Juan
Interesting. From another self-proclaimed virgin.
So your basis for your assertion is?????
If you've never had sex, and you've never had the opportunity to try different women out, how would you know? I have no problem with respecting your religious beliefs. However don't assume that you have any clue as of yet. Practice doesn't make perfect, although it can definitely help.
From my experience it really boils down to how much the woman likes sex, the more she likes it, the more likely she is to experiment, try to make it better, etc. The ones who really like sex, and who have open minds are usually the most fun.
How is practice going to make a woman who really isn't in to sex, enjoy sex? If you figure that one out, you'll be a billionaire ten times over.
--Romeo
Pugsley_f5
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Jeez I didnt say we were getting married guys, I said she has potential and could be marriage material, I would have gotten and friendlier response wearing a black panther glove in a kkk meeting than this jeez you all are scared to death of any sort of commitment, even talking about commitment possibly 5 years down the road sends you all into a frenzy of fear.....
Pugsley_f5
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Also Mromeo99.....I am not a virgin.....i have had sex before lots of times all the times were with virgins (when I met them) in LTRS and I can honestly say that things got better and better each time, it didn't get stale at all.... all this happened B.C., and it really was a mistake but I learned from it......but we were always learning and changing things when we had sex and it never got stale that way and always was better than the time before.....the only I have had sex with were virgins....you may say I myself am inexperienced, well with the crowd maybe, but with virgins I like to believe I know what do and how to handle all the aspects with girls who are virgins, also getting a girl who wants sex all the time is a turn off to me....I have and anybody can make a woman want it anytime they do, it's just a matter of time and patience and getting them in the mood, I know how to get them in the mood......that part isnt hard.......men have an on/off switch when it comes to sexual drive, women have a dimmer knob......all you have to do is keep turning the knob until its completley bright in the room and they will want it.....
I've been reading this post from page one, and I gotta tell you that this is not the end I was expecting. but anyways, its being fun and I've learned a bunch. I give credit to pugs for the courage of initiating a mission of this magnitude but I take it away because he did not accomplish to become a DJ.
good luck pugs and you are still THE MAN.
good luck pugs and you are still THE MAN.
