Naughty Ninja
Banned
Agreed. Though I have seen white chicks who put they only date black or hispanic dudes. (To be honest most of those chicks look disgusting.) I think most chicks either see white guys on top of the fish list as far as status, social proof, acceptance etc on POF (even if the dude is a loser. You have to realize you are dealing with morons on that site who are looking to live vicariously through some "God" to impress their friends and family.) Here's the hilarious part...These same chicks who are looking for all these white "Gods" are the SAME ones who offer NOTHING but issues, baggage, etc and a highly possible STD infested vag.IsiMan84 said:Before you cry foul and say "race doesn't matter," feel free to show me the hordes of profiles where girls say "no white guys." You'll grow a very long beard looking for one, cause they don't exist. Alright so we've established that. Anyways, back to the original point I was going to make.
Now if you were white and at the "top" of the list...would YOU want those types of chicks?? Who in their right mind who's white and has a remote sense of self worth and ISN'T desperate would want to wife one of those chicks up?? They're doing the same thing with the white guys they "adore" running through them till some complete FOOL of a "God" decides to wife them up and gets burned or sit there waiting for that same FOOL for life.
You can tell if they got it if you see they viewed you. (Some will view you and back out so you can't see they viewed you. That or a reply from them will let you know they read the message at least.)I read Naughty Ninja's posts and anyone else who's contributed up to this point. Good Looking Loser as well. Multiple times. I did a few weeks of research before even joining the site. Did the "rate my face" stuff, determined which photos would attract the most attention, etc. I've been doing this long enough to know you can't leave anything to chance. It may not be pertinent to the situation, but I look like an NFL receiver so that shouldn't work against me.
So I joined the site, put up my best photos, and went to work. I used NN's opener, spamming that ish to every decent looking girl on the site. Every 10 messages or so I would change a few words to avoid the spam filter.
Imagine my surprise when I got roughly 3 replies the first few days. There were a handful from the UG's who would randomly message me, but not a lot of replies from the ones I sent the opener to. I thought maybe they couldn't get to my message due to all the guys hitting them up. Or maybe it wasn't getting sent b/c of the spam filter. I couldn't be sure.
It depends also on who actually beat you to sending out the opener in your area. If someone else saturated the area it's a wrap for that opener UNLESS you look like a God and then they won't give a crap as you looked better than the last dude who sent it and would ignore they'd gotten it before.
I also do agree 100% that race also plays a factor. If you were light skinned black with light eyes you may wind up getting more favorable replies than a dark skinned black guy.
I don't kid myself to the nonsense on that site. I've know the deal a loooong time ago.
So I came to the conclusion that:
1) Being white, first and foremost, is your biggest asset. You will appeal to a larger segment of the demographic, and you're going to be given a lot more chances if you screw up along the way. It sucks for us minorities, but considering the racial history in this country it's not a big surprise.
2) Being tall (over 6'0" in both my profiles) will not work against you either. It means more girls are shorter than you, which increases your possibilities. Girls who were 6'2" were hitting up the fake profile out of the blue. This has been covered before.
3) Being decent looking is also a great asset. Once again, nothing new. If you're not in shape, then get in shape. The amount of girls I've gotten in real life who couldn't keep their hands off me has gone up since I started hitting the gym more. This will not happen if you have a beer belly or look like the wind could blow you away. You don't have to look like me or Good Looking Loser, but at least look like you give a crap about yourself.
4) Your opening message should be shorter. Considering the fact NN's message is three paragraphs long, they obviously know it's a copy/paste opener. Chances are they're not telling you because they think you look good enough, and are letting it slide. But if they're not that interested in you or your photos they definitely won't take the time to read it or will call you out. Nobody likes to read something that long if they don't have to.
5) Something personalized in the message doesn't hurt. I still do a copy/paste but I add something specific to them in front of it, which prevents them from disregarding it as spam. That way they'll actually read the whole thing. And if it's funny/clever enough they'll reply, which leads to a better response rate. Plus it's not that much work. This is a good chance to work on your PUA skills and ability to think on the fly.
6) Exposure, exposure, exposure. Being online A LOT will improve your results in every aspect. If you have the smartphone app (I don't), you can log in and just leave it on. You'll always be near the top of search results if you are recently/currently online. This makes it more likely for a girl to see your profile on her start page when she logs in. Having a lot of interests will help too. Also, if you're online you'll show up on her 'My Conversations' bar when you send her a message. Being the quick thinker I am, I figured out a way to help myself since I don't have the app. I downloaded a Firefox app that refreshes a tab of your choice. I log in to the site, set the app to refresh every couple minutes, which simulates me being at the computer, which keeps you logged in indefinitely. I've walked out the door, left the browser open and come back to a few messages.
Welp I think this is a good place for me to stop. Please feel free to share your thoughts on the matter.
Good advice. Looks online definitely matter.
Look and dress your best and take pics or at least have a shirtless pic up if you work out a lot.
As for a three paragraph opener? Maybe it's an old one you're using? I have no idea which three paragraph opener I ever made.lol
If they find you hot enough...or if you simply don't give a damn you can also simply spam them:
Has anyone ever told you, you are sexxxy as fvck?
If a chick responds to that and you grab her number in the max of five or less emails you know she's down to get banged by you. IF you play your cards right.