Plate invited me out, but is it worth going?

[BackInTheGame78]

I keep forgetting: Our cultural capacity to comprehend irony is vanishing faster than The Karankawa from the face of Earth, after those poor souls had one too many dust-ups with The Texas Rangers

And trying to be a comedic sideshow act on every post means you are going to fail miserably at times.

 

[BaronOfHair]

And trying to be a comedic sideshow act on every post means you are going to fail miserably at times.

Not as badly as my attempts to persuade Lindsey Lohan back in The 2000s that, if she didn't start wearing panties while out on the town, she'd be forever known as "Fire Crotch" did

 

[Bingo-Player]

I don't think she has to think too much, she's not doing any of the planning - she just doesn't want to feel trashy by having sex in a car or outside or wherever else that's not a normal bedroom. At least that's my assumption.

It's not so much she has to do the planning but more so there is no real plan

Many moons ago when I lived with parents I had to constantly be navigating **** like this and it was just an unnecessary headache

Problem is the second a woman senses you have no real plan it unsettles them she expects you to have everything figured out

 

[BaronOfHair]

We can't go to her place because she's an au pair, and we can't go to mine since I live with my family.

...I told her I'd be willing to hang out and do other things, but I put that ball in her court since she's busy working or with her host family most often

Your deficiencies in the independence/self-reliance department(You don't have your own home or a phone. You're "putting the ball" in her court, even though heterosexual women desire a Christian Grey or Massimo Torecelli who will lead them)is drying up this chick's panties, faster than winter in Moscow dries out the scalp of a psoriasis sufferer, hoss

It just may be astute to devote at least 50% of your energies to acquiring the basic material trappings of adulthood(An abode of your own, even if it's a cottage behind someone else's house. Your own phone, etc etc), so that you can start presenting as a MAN, rather than appearing to be stuck in adolescence

Women who are 18 and older generally desire men, rather than little boys whom they'll end up serving as a big sister to

 

[Gamisch]

I don't know what to tell you OP.

You already gaslight members from responding so the elephant in the room cannot be mentioned. @Bingo-Player my estimate is OP is 31 now. He doesn't has his shyte together but yet parades as " one of the most suave"members. Admittedly: he often has good insights on female behaviour, but dude is 31 and cannot take a woman home because he " lives with his family ".

Usually OP doesn't respond to questions why he hasn't got his sh1t together or why he isn't willing to work on it. So he can add me to the list of @MatureDJ and @AmsterdamAssassin . You know, nit picking a response like a child putting his fingers in his ears screaming LALALA .

To paraphrase the biggest player/rapper/ p00syslayer of the last decade named Drake:
I am growing tired of these grown man liars".

Get your shyte together!!! Man up. Grow up. Look in the mirror and make a change. Stfu about all these crazy tactics to hide the fact you are behind and aint winning in life.Find a damn job (or 2) and get your own place. You move like a 16 year old boy and yes, 16 year old boys sometimes get some coochie woohoo. You should be posting in the wealth and succes section asking how to get out your predicament FAST. Time waits for no man, and once you get around 40 it will be game over.

You oftentimes give " tough love" to people. But can you also take a punch? I expect no response . LALALALALA

Imma go study on my trade ,having exams next week and in between I'll hit the gym. Tomorrow got a painting job and monday back on the grind. That's my weekend. Have a great one yourself.

 

[Gamisch]

Your deficiencies in the independence/self-reliance department(You don't have your own home or a phone. You're "putting the ball" in her court, even though heterosexual women desire a Christian Grey or Massimo Torecelli who will lead them)is drying up this chick's panties, faster than winter in Moscow dries out the scalp of a psoriasis sufferer, hoss

It just may be astute to devote at least 50% of your energies to acquiring the basic material trappings of adulthood(An abode of your own, even if it's a cottage behind someone else's house. Your own phone, etc etc), so that you can start presenting as a MAN, rather than appearing to be stuck in adolescence

Women who are 18 and older generally desire men, rather than little boys whom they'll end up serving as a big sister to

This ninja better wake up FAST.

I was literally him, only without the support from my parents. But I believed that getting p00sy was the most important aspect of life. I literally scammed women by lying about my life. It worked..sometimes..but I ALWAYS got exposed.

The thing is , he is THOUSANDS and thousands of dollars away from being "that guy". A decent bed and matras including sheets and pillows will be around 2k. A couch 1k. Kitchen game 1k. Garden game 2 to 4 k. Maintenance around the house 2k( still assuming you are handy enough to do it all DIY).

He needs 3 to 5 years to get all this,yet he keeps wasting time on BS. There are 18 year olds who are WAY more mature than he is( we have a lotta young interns so I know ).

Seems like men have one thing in common with women. If she has a great azz she has no t1ts. If she is fat she is " easy to work with". But hardly ever you'll find the total package. Men on the other hand, when they are suave they often have skeletons in their closests. But when they are "great providers" they're boring AF and lack game...

It would be great to see OP making that big change while writing about it. Feck a tiny bj in your ran down car ..imagine the awkward conversation when she is like let's go to your place..

 

[Isildur1]

I would never refer to a woman I’m dating as a “plate” lmao where’s the respect? These people are humans

 

[mikedee]

I would never refer to a woman I’m dating as a “plate” lmao where’s the respect? These people are humans

This "plate" thing is just ridiculous. Guys who call women "plates" are the same guys who whine when their "plate" go silent and start dating somebody else.

 

[Clockwerk50]

It's not that big of an issue...I have fvcked at least 15 women for the first time at a hotel/motel and it was surprisingly easy to get them to go with me.

Essentially if they are interested in fvcking you they will go and it won't be an issue.

I never talked about it beforehand. When things were getting hot and heavy I just asked them if they wanted to go somewhere more private and if they said they did then it was on.

Don't overcomplicate things that don't need to be complicated.

It's not that big of an issue...I have fvcked at least 15 women for the first time at a hotel/motel and it was surprisingly easy to get them to go with me.

Essentially if they are interested in fvcking you they will go and it won't be an issue.

I never talked about it beforehand. When things were getting hot and heavy I just asked them if they wanted to go somewhere more private and if they said they did then it was on.

Don't overcomplicate things that don't need to be complicated.

I had two “girlfriends” and one acquaintance where hotels were involved, which are relevant in this context.

The first girl I slept with at her parents' house. Eventually, she started inviting me out with her friends to bars, or we would go on double dates with her best friend, after which we would book a hotel room. We would go to the same hotel, and occasionally her best friend would book another room with her long-term boyfriend. I spoke to the boyfriend once, and he mentioned that my girl liked that hotel because her best friend liked to go there as well. I suspect another guy initiated her, and she showed me the ropes.

The second girl was a Muslim. I stole her away from a Latin guy who was really ghetto. We had BJs and fingering in my car after a night out, but she was hesitant to sleep with me, especially since I didn’t have a plan after the club. Eventually, I invited her to dinner and then to a hotel, and after that, she began inviting me herself and making the bookings, inviting me to clubs/dinners, etc.

Lastly, there was another girl I drove around one time. Even though she was interested, she didn’t want me to book a hotel or do anything in my car because in the “case” I could be her forever love, or that we might work out relationship wise in the future. She wanted it to be special. However, nothing happened between us.

The point of the story is that unless a woman has been initiated by another man into these settings, or is part of a culture where men and women live with their parents until later in life, I believe that this whole hotel experience cannot be improvised, IMO.

 

[BPH]

Bro... Regurgitating all the jargon you've heard around The Manosphere makes you the male equivalent of The Basic North American White Girl, who's poisoned her brain with Critical Theory, and now injects all the buzzwords from THAT equally virulent religion into every sentence she writes or speaks

F-cking undesirable. You may be able to regain the capacity to think lucidly once again, if you start thinking and communicating in Plain Language

Ex. "I really want to do this broad who's blown me a couple of times, but I live with my family, and am terrified that if I bring her home they'll overhear her moans of ecstasy, then insist on joining in. And the thought of boning this chick, while my mother sits on her face, and my brother is balls deep in her assho-e, is less appealing to me than chowing down on lasagna prepared by The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia. How do I resolve this dilemma?"

Rather than: "This plate invited me out", then jabbering on for another 6 paragraphs, when you you could've really "kept things concise", with three sentences written in very frank language. Neither women nor anyone else finds someone who's a slog to listen to attractive

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Imma file you under the select few on this forum I consider "unhinged and not worth listening to". Also I don't know where you get the impression I don't have a phone...

I don't know what to tell you OP.

You already gaslight members from responding so the elephant in the room cannot be mentioned. @Bingo-Player my estimate is OP is 31 now. He doesn't has his shyte together but yet parades as " one of the most suave"members. Admittedly: he often has good insights on female behaviour, but dude is 31 and cannot take a woman home because he " lives with his family ".

Usually OP doesn't respond to questions why he hasn't got his sh1t together or why he isn't willing to work on it. So he can add me to the list of @MatureDJ and @AmsterdamAssassin . You know, nit picking a response like a child putting his fingers in his ears screaming LALALA .

To paraphrase the biggest player/rapper/ p00syslayer of the last decade named Drake:
I am growing tired of these grown man liars".

Get your shyte together!!! Man up. Grow up. Look in the mirror and make a change. Stfu about all these crazy tactics to hide the fact you are behind and aint winning in life.Find a damn job (or 2) and get your own place. You move like a 16 year old boy and yes, 16 year old boys sometimes get some coochie woohoo. You should be posting in the wealth and succes section asking how to get out your predicament FAST. Time waits for no man, and once you get around 40 it will be game over.

You oftentimes give " tough love" to people. But can you also take a punch? I expect no response . LALALALALA

Imma go study on my trade ,having exams next week and in between I'll hit the gym. Tomorrow got a painting job and monday back on the grind. That's my weekend. Have a great one yourself.

I don't know what you're talking about either...I've been incredibly transparent with both this forum and the women I meet in my life that I live at home still. It's not ideal, I'm not happy about it, and I'm working on a more permanent solution so I don't end up back here again - but it is what it is.

This is also off-topic so I don't even know why you left this here...it'd be like giving me advice on writing an English paper when I'm asking for help with a math problem.

I would never refer to a woman I’m dating as a “plate” lmao where’s the respect? These people are humans

This "plate" thing is just ridiculous. Guys who call women "plates" are the same guys who whine when their "plate" go silent and start dating somebody else.

I used the term "plate" because this is somebody I am not regularly seeing or sleeping with. We are not dating, she is not my girlfriend, and we are not f***ing, but she IS somebody I'm interested in and talking to, hence "plate". Don't get so hung up on the terminology..."plate" is shorter than "girl I'm interested in but haven't had sex with".

Anyway...

Went out to the bar with my friends and met up with her, had a good time. Turns out she was DD'ing for several of her au pair friends she was there with, so the way her night was going to end was already pretty planned out - mostly sober and driving her friends home later.

We danced and made out a bunch, she was happy to see me and mentioned she "thought I hated her because she's so bad at texting" and brought out her phone to show all her unread messages and DMs to prove her point, stating she's so busy and tired between working as an au pair, then coming back to her host family to basically do the same with their kids.

Made tentative plans to do something tonight, just us 2. Also mentioned that her birthday is coming up next week and that she would be moving out of her host family's place and getting her own in January.

I appreciate the advice that WAS on-topic, namely from @BackInTheGame78 @Clockwerk50 and @Bingo-Player

 

[SW15]

I don't know where you get the impression I don't have a phone...

I don't know where he got that impression either. Most men who live with their parents now have a smartphone.

I live at home still. It's not ideal, I'm not happy about it, and I'm working on a more permanent solution so I don't end up back here again - but it is what it is.

I think it would be good for you to have a place with a male roommate. This is most likely a 2 bedroom apartment, but it could be a rental condo or single family house.

You have managed to keep seducing women despite a difficult living situation. You have looks going for you, but you also have some social skill as well. You use looks and personality to get laid, and you can also claim male model status too. Money is your weakest component of the seduction equation.

 

[Gamisch]

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Imma file you under the select few on this forum I consider "unhinged and not worth listening to". Also I don't know where you get the impression I don't have a phone...



I don't know what you're talking about either...I've been incredibly transparent with both this forum and the women I meet in my life that I live at home still. It's not ideal, I'm not happy about it, and I'm working on a more permanent solution so I don't end up back here again - but it is what it is.

This is also off-topic so I don't even know why you left this here...it'd be like giving me advice on writing an English paper when I'm asking for help with a math problem.




I used the term "plate" because this is somebody I am not regularly seeing or sleeping with. We are not dating, she is not my girlfriend, and we are not f***ing, but she IS somebody I'm interested in and talking to, hence "plate". Don't get so hung up on the terminology..."plate" is shorter than "girl I'm interested in but haven't had sex with".

Anyway...

Went out to the bar with my friends and met up with her, had a good time. Turns out she was DD'ing for several of her au pair friends she was there with, so the way her night was going to end was already pretty planned out - mostly sober and driving her friends home later.

We danced and made out a bunch, she was happy to see me and mentioned she "thought I hated her because she's so bad at texting" and brought out her phone to show all her unread messages and DMs to prove her point, stating she's so busy and tired between working as an au pair, then coming back to her host family to basically do the same with their kids.

Made tentative plans to do something tonight, just us 2. Also mentioned that her birthday is coming up next week and that she would be moving out of her host family's place and getting her own in January.

I appreciate the advice that WAS on-topic, namely from @BackInTheGame78 @Clockwerk50 and @Bingo-Player

Oke. You live at home at 30+, meet women and ask what you should do because you can't take them home. Next thing someone answered " hotel" and then you thank them...cmon now. Where else will you take them?

You're missing the point: your competition can be ten years younger than you but light years ahead of you. Gotta get the wheels rolling FAST now bruh.

But oke. If a woman invites you to a party you know the drill. You know the dynamic at play. I simply think you should get your priorities right, which is NOT chasing women. E.g : if you had your shyte together you wouldn't be dependent on HER initiatives and HER possible housing.

You give tough love, but can you also take it?

 

[BPH]

Oke. You live at home at 30+, meet women and ask what you should do because you can't take them home. Next thing someone answered " hotel" and then you thank them...cmon now. Where else will you take them?

You're missing the point: your competition can be ten years younger than you but light years ahead of you. Gotta get the wheels rolling FAST now bruh.

But oke. If a woman invites you to a party you know the drill. You know the dynamic at play. I simply think you should get your priorities right, which is NOT chasing women. E.g : if you had your shyte together you wouldn't be dependent on HER initiatives and HER possible housing.

You give tough love, but can you also take it?

You done yet?

 

[Gamisch]

You done yet?

You began yet?

 

[Ricky]

Glad you went out with her. Don't over-complicate things. Au-pairs are generally here for a short time and move back, so they are here to have fun.

In my case i married one haha

 

[BillyPilgrim]

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Imma file you under the select few on this forum I consider "unhinged and not worth listening to". Also I don't know where you get the impression I don't have a phone...



I don't know what you're talking about either...I've been incredibly transparent with both this forum and the women I meet in my life that I live at home still. It's not ideal, I'm not happy about it, and I'm working on a more permanent solution so I don't end up back here again - but it is what it is.

This is also off-topic so I don't even know why you left this here...it'd be like giving me advice on writing an English paper when I'm asking for help with a math problem.




I used the term "plate" because this is somebody I am not regularly seeing or sleeping with. We are not dating, she is not my girlfriend, and we are not f***ing, but she IS somebody I'm interested in and talking to, hence "plate". Don't get so hung up on the terminology..."plate" is shorter than "girl I'm interested in but haven't had sex with".

Anyway...

Went out to the bar with my friends and met up with her, had a good time. Turns out she was DD'ing for several of her au pair friends she was there with, so the way her night was going to end was already pretty planned out - mostly sober and driving her friends home later.

We danced and made out a bunch, she was happy to see me and mentioned she "thought I hated her because she's so bad at texting" and brought out her phone to show all her unread messages and DMs to prove her point, stating she's so busy and tired between working as an au pair, then coming back to her host family to basically do the same with their kids.

Made tentative plans to do something tonight, just us 2. Also mentioned that her birthday is coming up next week and that she would be moving out of her host family's place and getting her own in January.

I appreciate the advice that WAS on-topic, namely from @BackInTheGame78 @Clockwerk50 and @Bingo-Player

Make sure she's willing to drink if you see her tonight. Sounds like you're in, but personally I'm wary of de-escalation tactics (from a bj to just making out, from drinking to being sober, etc).

This is the 4th date, you haven't banged her yet (due to logistics) but since she pulled the de-escalation on date 3, sex should happen on date 4. Don't let her blueball you tonight and dangle her birthday or her getting her own place as sexual carrots.

 

[Gamisch]

Make sure she's willing to drink if you see her tonight. Sounds like you're in, but personally I'm wary of de-escalation tactics (from a bj to just making out, from drinking to being sober, etc).

This is the 4th date, you haven't banged her yet (due to logistics) but since she pulled the de-escalation on date 3, sex should happen on date 4. Don't let her blueball you tonight and dangle her birthday or her getting her own place as sexual carrots.

"Due to logistics " aka due to poor life choices.

You done yet?

Bruh.

I am / was you in a way worse situation. That's why shyte piss me off. I am just a mirror . Ya know, that other entity on your shoulder. .

You wanna be a "don Juan " but you don't prioritise the basics . The jab. The 1-2. 31 isn't an innocent age. I had 2 kids at this age.

You know I'm right. You simply got your priorities wrong. To me it sounds pathetic, all those mental gymnastics to hide the truth. And I have a d1ck...A p00sy will dry after hearing your shyte. Yadiya you good looking ,mouthpiece and game ...the p00sy will dry with remorse and lots of " what's ifs " , but a ninja with less looks and less mouthpiece but way more " shyte together " will always triumph over dudes like you. A 2023 SUV with heated seats bringing her to a designated woman- friendly environment will beat your tons of excuses bj in the car shyte. Ain't rocket science.

Everyone lurking in a similar situation should understand that the ROOT isn't logistics. It's YOU. Your lack of effort and the right decisions in life. You ain't no corrector or mature dj . But you are 5 years away from becoming them.

My apologies if I came to harsh. Still I think that you should be able to take one on the chin. I'd even say that you actually want some real reaction . Anyway. On topic : " go to through the motions and hold frame".

 

[BPH]

"Due to logistics " aka due to poor life choices.

Bruh.

I am / was you in a way worse situation. That's why shyte piss me off. I am just a mirror . Ya know, that other entity on your shoulder. .

You wanna be a "don Juan " but you don't prioritise the basics . The jab. The 1-2. 31 isn't an innocent age. I had 2 kids at this age.

You know I'm right. You simply got your priorities wrong. To me it sounds pathetic, all those mental gymnastics to hide the truth. And I have a d1ck...A p00sy will dry after hearing your shyte. Yadiya you good looking ,mouthpiece and game ...the p00sy will dry with remorse and lots of " what's ifs " , but a ninja with less looks and less mouthpiece but way more " shyte together " will always triumph over dudes like you. A 2023 SUV with heated seats bringing her to a designated woman- friendly environment will beat your tons of excuses bj in the car shyte. Ain't rocket science.

Everyone lurking in a similar situation should understand that the ROOT isn't logistics. It's YOU. Your lack of effort and the right decisions in life. You ain't no corrector or mature dj . But you are 5 years away from becoming them.

My apologies if I came to harsh. Still I think that you should be able to take one on the chin. I'd even say that you actually want some real reaction . Anyway. On topic : " go to through the motions and hold frame".

I wasn't going to bother with this, but if you're going to go so far as to privately message me, I'll respond if only to get you to move on.

First and foremost, you and All Kindz of Gainz share pretty much the same sentiment with this. I believe you guys care so much about my financial situation in particular because you likely have achieved greater success in those areas, but lesser success when it comes to women, and maybe you feel that you should have similar success because you figured out more areas of your life than me.

Don't know, don't care, but that's my theory.

I live at home. I am very transparent about that in my posts and with the women that I sleep with. It is not ideal, and I am taking steps to change that situation.

That said, my post was regarding a girl hitting ME up and whether I should bother with it, given the fact that I live at home and so does she (technically). I am not going to be able to suddenly condense the 5-year plan you think I should have into the few hours between when I posted this and when I went out. I am not spending my weekends out at the bar for hours on end, blowing the money I've been saving up - I got invited and I asked whether I should go, given the short history I have with this girl and the fact that neither of us has a place to go, plus her being with friends.

Yet you and Baron have turned this into some sort of psychiatric dissertation based on the merit of supposed "tough love" when I am not even asking for advice about this problem. And even if I were, you've given me no reason to value your advice beyond the fact that you're a "mirror" of me - you follow this up by stating that you already had 2 children by my age as if that's a metric of success. Maybe it is to you, but certainly not to me.

I know nothing about you; how much you make, what you do, etc so why would you think I'd value your advice? Especially when I'm neither asking for it nor looking to solve that problem by asking the question in this post.

I state things like my body count, my living situation, my age, and the fact that I got BJs from this girl in her car to establish CONTEXT. If you find that to be arrogant or boastful of me, that's your problem, not mine - they are merely statements.

Hopefully this gives you the attention you've been craving from your multiple replies and direct message.

By the way, I'm 30.

 

[BaronOfHair]

This ninja better wake up FAST

Preferably before he runs into a Caine

who ain't Micheal

 

[BaronOfHair]

By the way, I'm 30.

Then act like it. Spending this much time fretting over bagging a slice of cooter, and almost zero on starting living independently(I.E. On your own, rather than sleeping on the floor of your family's basement), is the behavior of an intellectually stunted adolescent, not a psychologically robust man