Plate invited me out, but is it worth going?

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I'll try to make this as concise as possible since this is either happening or not happening tonight...

Met this girl through Hinge, she's an au pair (lives with a host family with children).

Hung out with her twice, both times we went out for drinks at different bars and the night ended with a BJ in her car, though the second time she wanted to have sex - just not in the car, she wanted it to be in a normal room with a normal bed.

We can't go to her place because she's an au pair, and we can't go to mine since I live with my family.

For this reason I thought our next meet-up could involve getting a room somewhere and having drinks there. She wasn't too interested in this idea because although she's been very open about wanting sex, she doesn't seem to want it to be ONLY sex. I told her I'd be willing to hang out and do other things, but I put that ball in her court since she's busy working or with her host family most often.

A couple weeks go by, she posts an Instagram story with her friends out at a local bar after having not read or responded to my message asking if she was free that weekend, so I just wrote her off.

She regularly watches and likes my Instagram story since they're mostly workout clips, and asked me if I was going out tonight. She told me she was going to be out with friends for a costume party at a local bar with some of her friends and invited me to join them.

I'm wondering whether I should go to that. I may have 1 other friend join me, but otherwise I'd be by myself. Logistically, I don't see a way the night could go all that great - especially since she's going to have friends to worry about and not just me.

So yeah, what do you guys think? Please don't leave some useless reply just for the sake of leaving a reply a la @MatureDJ or @AmsterdamAssassin as I need to figure this out in the next few hours.
 

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“You have to give her what she needs not what she wants” - Mr. Amsterdam

I think this will give her some BF vibes coming from you, but at the same time, you are proving yourself to her that you are willing to take her seriously if she plays her cards right. It may also indicate that you won’t ghost her after you sleep together. I think she would be genuine happy to see you but you have to think if this pvssy is worth the effort, especially since you were so closed in getting it.

If you are willing to go I’d say stay for an hour of so. Say hi to her and her friends and be within reach of her group while doing your own thing. Cut the night short and ask her if she can walk you out of the club before you leave, just don’t expect to get laid that night.

Furthermore, I think she will be more inclined to go to dinner/bar and the hotel another day after you prove yourself. Maybe let her put more effort in the relationship after this deed done, or pick a fight with her by telling her her intentions with you are not in the right place.

Best thing I can think off while walking my dog. Good luck.
 
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Not if you're thinking of her as "a plate", the same way politians and military leaders have throughout history encouraged their GIs to dehumanizes large sections of humanity by thinking of them as "kra-ts", "g-oks", "gre-seballs", and "w-gs"
 

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How old are you ? having your own place is a fundamental requirement to be having casual sex with women without it you're really in limbo

The issue is clear she's having to think too much.... there's no clear direction from you for her to be able to lay down and spread her legs

She just wants to show up fall into your masculine frame and submit ....not helping plan a logistical mess or booking hotel rooms etc

Women hate the thought of pre planned sex it drys the pu$$Y up even if they know its going to happen , they want at least some degree of spontaneity

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If you want pro advice I would just book a room , rock up with an internalised belief she will be coming back with you

Do not mention it too her directly but just build up the tension with her , flirt with her and her friend get them drunk and then literally just lead her to the hotel without saying anything

Depending on how well you execute the frame she will follow , if she questions it just make jokes and be indirect

" oh come on we're going on a mission " or something like that

Once shes at the hotel she will fvck
 

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“You have to give her what she needs not what she wants” - Mr. Amsterdam

I think this will give her some BF vibes coming from you, but at the same time, you are proving yourself to her that you are willing to take her seriously if she plays her cards right. It may also indicate that you won’t ghost her after you sleep together. I think she would be genuine happy to see you but you have to think if this pvssy is worth the effort, especially since you were so closed in getting it.

If you are willing to go I’d say stay for an hour of so. Say hi to her and her friends and be within reach of her group while doing your own thing. Cut the night short and ask her if she can walk you out of the club before you leave, just don’t expect to get laid that night.

Furthermore, I think she will be more inclined to go to dinner/bar and the hotel another day after you prove yourself. Maybe let her put more effort in the relationship after this deed done, or pick a fight with her by telling her her intentions with you are not in the right place.

Best thing I can think off while walking my dog. Good luck.
Some of my friends changed their tune and are now interested in going to this area tonight, so it might not be as much of a stretch as it would be if I were going solo.

If that's the case, we can play it by ear, but if we hadn't f***ed when it was just her and I, I doubt her friends being there would improve those chances.

I'm not going to pick a fight with her and I don't think she would do the planning, but if she's out there and doesn't mind PDA in front of her friends then I think we're on the right track.

As I mentioned, she's a plate, and I'm still sleeping with other women, so it's not a big deal if this doesn't work out, I just wasn't sure if there was a close to be had here.

Not if you're thinking of her as "a plate", the same way politians and military leaders have throughout history encouraged their GIs to dehumanizes large sections of humanity by thinking of them as "kra-ts", "g-oks", "gre-seballs", and "w-gs"
...bro what are you on about?

How old are you ? having your own place is a fundamental requirement to be having casual sex with women without it you're really in limbo

The issue is clear she's having to think too much.... there's no clear direction from you for her to be able to lay down and spread her legs

She just wants to show up fall into your masculine frame and submit ....not helping plan a logistical mess or booking hotel rooms etc

Women hate the thought of pre planned sex it drys the pu$$Y up even if they know its going to happen , they want at least some degree of spontaneity

---------------------------

If you want pro advice I would just book a room , rock up with an internalised belief she will be coming back with you

Do not mention it too her directly but just build up the tension with her , flirt with her and her friend get them drunk and then literally just lead her to the hotel without saying anything

Depending on how well you execute the frame she will follow , if she questions it just make jokes and be indirect

" oh come on we're going on a mission " or something like that

Once shes at the hotel she will fvck
Yeah, not having my place is an issue, and one I'm working on fixing, but it is what it is at the moment.

I don't think she has to think too much, she's not doing any of the planning - she just doesn't want to feel trashy by having sex in a car or outside or wherever else that's not a normal bedroom. At least that's my assumption.

I don't think pre-booking a room would work. @SW15 is the guy with the figures, and I believe Halloween is the least likely holiday to get laid or something. Almost any situation involving friends - especially when they're au pairs and have to come home to a family with kids - doesn't often end in sex unless they have somewhere else to go.

In this case, that somewhere else isn't something I'm so confident in booking in advance...maybe if it were just us two, but not when there's a group mentality.
 

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Some of my friends changed their tune and are now interested in going to this area tonight, so it might not be as much of a stretch as it would be if I were going solo.

If that's the case, we can play it by ear, but if we hadn't f***ed when it was just her and I, I doubt her friends being there would improve those chances.

I'm not going to pick a fight with her and I don't think she would do the planning, but if she's out there and doesn't mind PDA in front of her friends then I think we're on the right track.

As I mentioned, she's a plate, and I'm still sleeping with other women, so it's not a big deal if this doesn't work out, I just wasn't sure if there was a close to be had here.
Just to clarify, I didn’t mean today. Today would be about proving yourself and having a good time. I meant in one of your future interactions with her you could wiggle her a little bit to put more effort in the relationship if she still is not putting out. Anyways, this is beyond to scope of tonight.

I don’t think logistically speaking you’d be able to smash, especially with her friends there unless both of you were somewhat serious, like she would call you for a booty call after the night is over. To add onto this, since you still have not slept together, I don’t think the hotel thing can be improvised.

Good thing your friends are coming over so you don’t have to do a solo mission here.
 
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Some of my friends changed their tune and are now interested in going to this area tonight, so it might not be as much of a stretch as it would be if I were going solo.

If that's the case, we can play it by ear, but if we hadn't f***ed when it was just her and I, I doubt her friends being there would improve those chances.

I'm not going to pick a fight with her and I don't think she would do the planning, but if she's out there and doesn't mind PDA in front of her friends then I think we're on the right track.

As I mentioned, she's a plate, and I'm still sleeping with other women, so it's not a big deal if this doesn't work out, I just wasn't sure if there was a close to be had here.



...bro what are you on about?



Yeah, not having my place is an issue, and one I'm working on fixing, but it is what it is at the moment.

I don't think she has to think too much, she's not doing any of the planning - she just doesn't want to feel trashy by having sex in a car or outside or wherever else that's not a normal bedroom. At least that's my assumption.

I don't think pre-booking a room would work. @SW15 is the guy with the figures, and I believe Halloween is the least likely holiday to get laid or something. Almost any situation involving friends - especially when they're au pairs and have to come home to a family with kids - doesn't often end in sex unless they have somewhere else to go.

In this case, that somewhere else isn't something I'm so confident in booking in advance...maybe if it were just us two, but not when there's a group mentality.
It's not that big of an issue...I have fvcked at least 15 women for the first time at a hotel/motel and it was surprisingly easy to get them to go with me.

Essentially if they are interested in fvcking you they will go and it won't be an issue.

I never talked about it beforehand. When things were getting hot and heavy I just asked them if they wanted to go somewhere more private and if they said they did then it was on.

Don't overcomplicate things that don't need to be complicated.
 

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Some of my friends changed their tune and are now interested in going to this area tonight, so it might not be as much of a stretch as it would be if I were going solo.

If that's the case, we can play it by ear, but if we hadn't f***ed when it was just her and I, I doubt her friends being there would improve those chances.

I'm not going to pick a fight with her and I don't think she would do the planning, but if she's out there and doesn't mind PDA in front of her friends then I think we're on the right track.

As I mentioned, she's a plate, and I'm still sleeping with other women, so it's not a big deal if this doesn't work out, I just wasn't sure if there was a close to be had here.



...bro what are you on about?



Yeah, not having my place is an issue, and one I'm working on fixing, but it is what it is at the moment.

I don't think she has to think too much, she's not doing any of the planning - she just doesn't want to feel trashy by having sex in a car or outside or wherever else that's not a normal bedroom. At least that's my assumption.

I don't think pre-booking a room would work. @SW15 is the guy with the figures, and I believe Halloween is the least likely holiday to get laid or something. Almost any situation involving friends - especially when they're au pairs and have to come home to a family with kids - doesn't often end in sex unless they have somewhere else to go.

In this case, that somewhere else isn't something I'm so confident in booking in advance...maybe if it were just us two, but not when there's a group mentality.
Can you float a counteroffer for another night with just the two having a night out that ends up in a hotel? Say you're trying to convince your friends but it's not definite. Her response may shed better light on where her mind's at.
 
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I don't think pre-booking a room would work. @SW15 is the guy with the figures, and I believe Halloween is the least likely holiday to get laid or something. Almost any situation involving friends - especially when they're au pairs and have to come home to a family with kids - doesn't often end in sex unless they have somewhere else to go.
Halloween isn't the least likely day of the year for getting laid randomly, but it has been mentioned as a below average night for getting random sex.


The large group of friends factor is cited there. Halloween is more known for attention whorring than actual sex.

I don't think pre-booking a room is a good idea. Book a room when the room is needed.
 

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Don't overcomplicate things that don't need to be complicated.
What you're recommending is the equivalent of laughing at Attack Of The Show and the first Pitch Perfect flick, rather than pretending to be traumatized by such things, or writing a lengthy op-ed in Vox over just how "problematic" everything on-screen allegedly is..

Very 2000s-early 10s, and painfully quaint, especially for this enlightened era we've been from '16-today
 

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What you're recommending is the equivalent of laughing at Attack Of The Show and the first Pitch Perfect flick, rather than pretending to be traumatized by such things, or writing a lengthy op-ed in Vox over just how "problematic" everything on-screen allegedly is..

Very 2000s-early 10s, and painfully quaint, especially for this enlightened era we've been from '16-today
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Yet somehow my comment made as much sense as yours.
There's a segment of America who mistakes Joe Rogan for a deep thinker, and we all pity you fellas, and your collective inability to follow along with a conversation

You all are contemporary equivalents of the boneheads who mistook case studies in bufoonery like Tom Leykis, Mancow, and some other pathetic fatass named Limbaugh seriously, back in The 90s
 

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...bro what are you on about?
Bro... Regurgitating all the jargon you've heard around The Manosphere makes you the male equivalent of The Basic North American White Girl, who's poisoned her brain with Critical Theory, and now injects all the buzzwords from THAT equally virulent religion into every sentence she writes or speaks

F-cking undesirable. You may be able to regain the capacity to think lucidly once again, if you start thinking and communicating in Plain Language

Ex. "I really want to do this broad who's blown me a couple of times, but I live with my family, and am terrified that if I bring her home they'll overhear her moans of ecstasy, then insist on joining in. And the thought of boning this chick, while my mother sits on her face, and my brother is balls deep in her assho-e, is less appealing to me than chowing down on lasagna prepared by The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia. How do I resolve this dilemma?"

Rather than: "This plate invited me out", then jabbering on for another 6 paragraphs, when you you could've really "kept things concise", with three sentences written in very frank language. Neither women nor anyone else finds someone who's a slog to listen to attractive
 
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What you're recommending is the equivalent of laughing at Attack Of The Show and the first Pitch Perfect flick, rather than pretending to be traumatized by such things, or writing a lengthy op-ed in Vox over just how "problematic" everything on-screen allegedly is..

Very 2000s-early 10s, and painfully quaint, especially for this enlightened era we've been from '16-today
What in the literal fvck are you talking about?

You been smoking crystal meth tonight or something? :lol:
 

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What in the literal fvck are you talking about?
I keep forgetting: Our cultural capacity to comprehend irony is vanishing faster than The Karankawa from the face of Earth, after those poor souls had one too many dust-ups with The Texas Rangers
 
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