Operation Aggressive Stance

[jmchavz]

Interceptor & fellow Dj's....

You all know that not everybody is ready to WAKE UP from their DREAMS... it took me a very LONG time to realize the TRUTH ( sheessshhh I sound like Morpheus from the Matrix ) that nothing is impossible.

Master and Senior Don Juans, you guys give it all it takes to make this a kiss a$$ forum, I learned so much this past year from being a member, than I could have ever learned by doing what I thought was instinctually correct....

Dont be so hard, dude. Take a Breather, chill, go on Vacation, and we will be here waiting for your return.

Props to you, and all Masters and seniors and every DJ out there.

 

[Interceptor]

My argument has been, and always will be...

Do not put focus on the External. Do not follow the herd, and seek validation from Society.

Look inward for your values, and place the Locus of your Control INTERNALLY.
Seek INTERNAL Empowerment for Empowered Living, not EXTERNAL DISEMPOWERMENT.


Those who follow the herd are doomed to be swallowed up in it.


If women are always attracted to the better looking guy, then everybddy here better put away money for a lot of cosmetic surgery.


I have never discredited the importance of looks, and physique.
Never.
I am keenly aware of the boost in self confidence, and the value of regular exercise.
I also experience daily the attention from women due to a muscular physique, but it is not the entire reason a woman will find me attractive.
So at no time have I ever demeaned the attraction that being physically handsome, and physically fit can have.


Again, when we place our locus of control externally , we will always follow trends. We will always be at the mercy of Society. And Society does not always have our own personal best interest at heart.

Is folowing trends the best, most empowered manner of living?
IS a mature Man going to follow the whims of some brainless teenager, or some efeminate fashionista because they're TELLING US that's "whats hot and cool and now, like totally!"

The truth is that immature females are LOOKING for what THEY THINK is 'masculine', so they react to what they THINK is masculine.
Until they finally mature, and recognize WHAT really matters for Survival and Reproduction.


I recall an argument (was it RSD?) that stated that "Cavemen didnt have mirrors."
Now , THAT'S Something to REALLY think about.

 

[WalkingStick]

Brilliant post.

It seems like most guys either do not understand their masculinity or go overboard and become arrogant and agressive. I'm glad to see a post that explores what a man truly is.

 

[Reborn]

No matter what we want out exterior and out interior is not separated from each other. You might REALLY wanna feel like a man but if you slouch your shoulders, let your head hang then you will feel powerless. If you're as thin as the women you wanna pick up how are you going to feel powerful and in control, feel like a man? How easy is it to feel like the prize when you got a gut hanging out of your shirt? Body language effect our state of mind. Our hormones effect our state of mind. Training influences both of these making it easier to improve and focus on the inner values. Inner values come from the support of our external values.


I am NOT suggesting that you follow trends and use make-up to be a metro sexual gender confused male. Everyone is self-conscious about their body to some degree. May it be some guy is self conscious about his gut, and whenever he talks to people he thinks people are judging him making it hard for him to improve and become a man. Now, he got the choice to try to ignore what he feels by focusing on his internal values. Of course its all good and well but that feeling will always be there in the back gnawing at him. He could also start to exercise and work on getting rid of the gut. Among many good things he will probably feel alot better about himself making improvement in other areas oh so much easier. He will feel like double the man every time he try to mack a chick or have a business appointment.


You are very correct that looks alone wont attract. You are probably confident and sure in yourself which is equally important. What I mean though is that you start in the wrong end. No matter if you like it or not most people is self-conscious about their body. Improving it will generally give a boost to them making improving the inner values so much easier. My mother became alot more happy when she started swimming three times a week and she felt healthier. And Im taking her husband to the gym as well to get him started and to lose some stress and build up some strength. Im hoping this will have a big impact on his life as well.


This is from my experience. I embraced the whole "be a man" speech and thought it was great. But soon enough no matter how hard I tried being a man I noticed that people simply didn't respect skinny guys. You seldom see skinny guys being leaders in a group, its either a fat or built guy. What you say may work for people who are overweight or already look good but for skiny guys IMO its crucial to improve ones body. I went from literally little to no success to speeding at the road of success despite some personal set backs when I began lifting. My way of interacting with people are pretty much the same only that the reactions I've gotten are that much different.


So I hear what you are saying, but as I said I think you are working from the wrong angle in most cases. Lifting weights is not about flexing in the mirror its about constant testing, constant battle against the weights. You never ease into a comfortable lifting weight, you constantly push for heavier weight. This way of thinking can overlap into other areas in your life. You begin pushing, never really easing in but constantly test yourself against whatever people can throw at you.


You have improved the life for many it seems on this board so no matter what I think what you say work for people. And in the end it all comes down to improving oneself. Im Lifeforce btw.

 

[LovelyLady]

bump

 

[MisterMcGee]

I don't really believe the 'skinny guys get no respect' thing.

 

[The Gamer]

FUUUUUUCUCCKKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKKCCKCKK!!!!!!!God damnit, this **** is me. Why..............*ANGER*

Ur right.

 

[Interceptor]

Bump

 

[Interceptor]

This was a productive discussion.
Bump.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Great work, Interceptor. I don't know how this one slipped past me.

Listen, man, you are on the verge of being one of the best posters ever, but please, dude, use your spell checker.

You can get mad at me all you want, but consider:

Your chosen method of communication is the written word. You can present your work in a tarnished way, or a polished way. Why not demonstrate your philosophies by excelling at what you do? Is this not an admirable trait for a man to have? A man should strive toward absolute excellence in all that he does, especially in something as important as communication, which is something you're very good at.

You can choose to be offended by my comments or you can use them to catapult you to a plane where you have untarnished credibility. A scratch on a common family sedan is nothing, but a scratch on a luxury automobile is a distraction from its beauty and fine engineering.

I will continue to learn from your excellent posts even if you don't love me anymore. I'm sorry, but your writing is too good for me not to let you know that you are a step away from unparraleled excellence.

 

[Interceptor]

Sure. Will do.
Thanks.

 

[lurker]

I hate posts like this, we all know women have the power and guys are way more desperate because women control who gets laid, but we need real solutions to the problem rather than flowery-philosophical-posts that basically tells us what we already know. Sigh.

MM

i agree with mad manic
interceptor in as much as i commend your good writing skills, and phylosophical propositions. the truth is men here dont need this phylosophies about who they need to be no more please men have to just be. they dont need to be told how alpha or beta or loser they are, they just need to minimize thier time spent online,kill thier addiction for women and watch confidence and indifference towards women build its much better than telling men all kind of strategies and tests women put men through or how they are being emasculated who cares?, getting a zero state of mind is the only solution for these men.you will never change what women have become in these times. men have to now reajust. and take it for what it is without directing anger at women for rejecting them. posts like these fuels anger in these men and wth anger you'll never like women. without the constant phylosophies on women and how men are being emusculated, men will search deep within and figure it out. its no more your job to help anyone anymore.i left this site for 2 good yrs and came back to drop some experiences. i had a friend in college i introduced to the pua world and he become an addict. many times i found him sleeping off with his laptop by his bedside logged on to pua sites like this one and the others. i regretted ever introducing him to it. he fairs much better now he has disgarded it im not saying this site is bad im saying constant addiction and bickering on tips and solutions or frautration towards women is what makes this whole pua thing suck this site can be quite entertainning and lets leave it at that entertainment and focus on real issue that'll help men and to stop guys fuking *watching porn*. no more news on how men are turning to sissiies. we dont give a **** anymore. giving a **** creates more problems. if she cheats on you so be it. just dump her ass and move on. guys never learn anyway.
i cant for the life of me figure out why you guys dont just get one girl she could be your f-buddy ,your girlfriend,plaything,whateva in one and if she screws up you dump her ass and get another till you find someone reasonable(not perfect -no one is and will ever be) to marry its a sure better bet than going to clubs wasting money every ****ing week chating same ol boring lines and get pissed off when women reject you you end up watching pron to make matters worse lol pathetic.
you guys are pressuring your selfs out of sexuall faustration. and turning it towards women. if a women is a ***** let her be a ***** for her self ,its not your problem.insults should bounce of you like a bulletproof vest.men out there still get married.you'll never find cinderalla
goodluck to you all.

 

[Interceptor]

I respect your opinion, and see where you're coming from.

I'm trying to help the best way I know how.

Thanks, and good luck to you.

 

[The Bat]

Frustrated much?

Apparently you learned absolutely nothing from this site. Next time you open your mouth and decide to disagree with a topic, think deep and hard about what you are going to write so you don't come off sounding like a total idiot. What you wrote has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.

i agree with mad manic
interceptor in as much as i commend your good writing skills, and phylosophical propositions. the truth is men here dont need this phylosophies about who they need to be no more please men have to just be. they dont need to be told how alpha or beta or loser they are, they just need to minimize thier time spent online,kill thier addiction for women and watch confidence and indifference towards women build its much better than telling men all kind of strategies and tests women put men through or how they are being emasculated who cares?, getting a zero state of mind is the only solution for these men.you will never change what women have become in these times. men have to now reajust. and take it for what it is without directing anger at women for rejecting them. posts like these fuels anger in these men and wth anger you'll never like women. without the constant phylosophies on women and how men are being emusculated, men will search deep within and figure it out. its no more your job to help anyone anymore.i left this site for 2 good yrs and came back to drop some experiences. i had a friend in college i introduced to the pua world and he become an addict. many times i found him sleeping off with his laptop by his bedside logged on to pua sites like this one and the others. i regretted ever introducing him to it. he fairs much better now he has disgarded it im not saying this site is bad im saying constant addiction and bickering on tips and solutions or frautration towards women is what makes this whole pua thing suck this site can be quite entertainning and lets leave it at that entertainment and focus on real issue that'll help men and to stop guys fuking *watching porn*. no more news on how men are turning to sissiies. we dont give a **** anymore. giving a **** creates more problems. if she cheats on you so be it. just dump her ass and move on. guys never learn anyway.
i cant for the life of me figure out why you guys dont just get one girl she could be your f-buddy ,your girlfriend,plaything,whateva in one and if she screws up you dump her ass and get another till you find someone reasonable(not perfect -no one is and will ever be) to marry its a sure better bet than going to clubs wasting money every ****ing week chating same ol boring lines and get pissed off when women reject you you end up watching pron to make matters worse lol pathetic.
you guys are pressuring your selfs out of sexuall faustration. and turning it towards women. if a women is a ***** let her be a ***** for her self ,its not your problem.insults should bounce of you like a bulletproof vest.men out there still get married.you'll never find cinderalla
goodluck to you all.

 

[lurker]

Frustrated much?

Apparently you learned absolutely nothing from this site. Next time you open your mouth and decide to disagree with a topic, think deep and hard about what you are going to write so you don't come off sounding like a total idiot. What you wrote has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.

indeed i am an idiot i replied to this topic based on another posters reply.
but iv lernt far more than you'll ever learn. from the real world.

@interceptor
i replied wrongly to this topic based on the rely by another poster talking about self improvement. for some reason i mixed yours up with his, not gonna bore you with the details.

this topic hits home to me because it echo's everything i have lernt from the outer world something , something guys here are to ***** to learn for them selves.its something along the lines of what i posted on" the state of just being.
i like this
i printed this and gave it to my cousin to read.
seems he's at that stage where he is trying to fit in. you have explained it in the most plain of terms something anyone would understand .

this part of your post especially i liked .

My argument has been, and always will be...

Do not put focus on the External. Do not follow the herd, and seek validation from Society.

Look inward for your values, and place the Locus of your Control INTERNALLY.
Seek INTERNAL Empowerment for Empowered Living, not EXTERNAL DISEMPOWERMENT.


Those who follow the herd are doomed to be swallowed up in it.


If women are always attracted to the better looking guy, then everybddy here better put away money for a lot of cosmetic surgery.


I have never discredited the importance of looks, and physique.
Never.
I am keenly aware of the boost in self confidence, and the value of regular exercise.
I also experience daily the attention from women due to a muscular physique, but it is not the entire reason a woman will find me attractive.
So at no time have I ever demeaned the attraction that being physically handsome, and physically fit can have.


Again, when we place our locus of control externally , we will always follow trends. We will always be at the mercy of Society. And Society does not always have our own personal best interest at heart.

Is folowing trends the best, most empowered manner of living?
IS a mature Man going to follow the whims of some brainless teenager, or some efeminate fashionista because they're TELLING US that's "whats hot and cool and now, like totally!"

The truth is that immature females are LOOKING for what THEY THINK is 'masculine', so they react to what they THINK is masculine.
Until they finally mature, and recognize WHAT really matters for Survival and Reproduction.


im done . maybe i should thank so suave. not for teaching me anything but for making me realise the hard way the effects of obsessing about women which is what is being done here. thus i went out to really change my life .


b4 i go psssst..i'll tell you guys a secret... these chicks arnt into looks as you guys on here think they are. experience has thought me otherwise. looks do matter but a guys whos a 7 or 7.5 is all they need.mildly built and not too muscular no six packs....pssst dont tell anyone lol.

i know the difference when i was bulkier to now yes they'll stare at you when you got all that muscles but in most cases thats where itll end just stares..
.basically they like semi-bum looking guys example(justintimberlake or that dude from the transformer movies), when you give off vibes of perfection from the onset you are doomed. down the line they'll be like so what was special about all that body. after all you are mr perfect arnt you? you'll end up being stuck to a role of the pin -up.the male bimbo (women are good at doing this. beleive it or not even johnny deep said something along these lines on a dutch magazine i read 5yrs ago i couldnt understand it then. never let a woman see you when you are looking your best(believe me it'll work against you in the long run) unfold it as time goes on good luck..... ..................thats a secret dont tell anyone.

 

[Interceptor]

Thanks, Lurker.
I understand now. No worries.

Im glad what I wrote helped you and your cousin.

The Bat also meant well. He is quite experienced in the real world too.



Stay strong, and good luck.

 

[Sir Juanalot]

Its all down to a mindset. Once you have that mindset, things fall into place. Getting the mindset is the difficult part.

Carl Sagan once said "to make an apple pie from scratch, first you must create the universe"

It's a case of reflection on who you are, and where you are, and then seeing where you want to be. Some people do not want to look inside for answers, because what is inside themselves scares them.

There are many paths to the truth, each equally as valid as the other. As long as we are all moving in the right direction things will work out. It is in reflection of the self that the answer become apparent.

I hope this resonates with some of you, others may criticise. I think i see what interceptor is saying here, the path is different for each of us, but the method for knowing yourself is the same, look inward to know yourself, because only then can you know what is right for you.

One final quote, Kahlil Gibran "do not say i have found the truth, say i have found A truth".

 

[BlackMos17]

bump.

Great post and discussion Interceptor. You and Pook helped me out so much.

 

[DjVita]

i agree...
good post.
my post is similar
"findin your way, a story"
same message...
read it!

 

[casthenova]

Interceptor -

You have literally changed my life with your posts. I have only read three of them, but I have read them over and over again. I know you said that if you reached one person and they actually changed you would feel good about what you've done and I can tell you I am that person. I have taken everything you said to heart and it has opened my life up to infinite possibilities because I realized that it is about myself and my own insecurities.

So if you do take a break and/or if I never hear from you again, I just want to say thanks because you did a real service for me that you didn't have to do. I don't think any amount of "tactics" or "tricks" could bring me anywhere near the level of inner fulfillment I have felt in the past months. Without your posts I probably wouldn't have directed my focus inwardly because I just was confused and lost. Everything you said was dead on true for me and you've really helped me.

So thank you and I wish you the best. I hope that you post more in the future but I have already gotten pointed in the right direction. I feel your words.

-Cas