New strategy for securing straight to your house dates

[GoodMan32]

Plus seduction is not that hard. Why skip a fun step.

Seduction might be easy and fun for you.

It's hard and miserable for some of us.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Evidently you have never been stalked. Not as funny as it sounds.

I also move once a year and have no social media presence so that would make it pretty hard for them to do that, but yea that's probably not fun nor is it to deal with a girl who's willing to file false police reports

They act as if they do have abundance. Even if they just block and unmatch a girl that shows disinterest, well at least the guy has his right hand and a Playstation controller. Point is, acting in abundance without actually having it is doomed to fail.

An OLD match isn't such unless sex happened.

There's no difference between mental abundance and physical abundance anyway though

Abundance can be the knowledge that you can and will meet new women and doesn't necessarily imply you actively have a harem of them. But sure I can maybe see a scenario where it's cope because of course men delude themselves into thinking they're making every women they meet cream herself, but not sure that's terribly common with men especially ones who in fact can't get pvssy, that doesn't really make any sense.

 

[nismo-4]

That was exactly why I got snipped, no more pregnant scares, no thinking about this woman wanna trap me.

I prefer to pay $10k for having it reversed, than to pay more than $500k in 18 years of a child that I didn't plan, plus all the headache of dealing with baby mama, her boyfriends, her taking care of my kid, her boyfriends not doing anything bad to my kid.

But some men are so $tupid, even though they're poor, they have children from one night stance, therefore making them even poorer. It should be a requirement for every men to get snipped until they can afford having kids.

If you ever want to find out what it's like to have a kid, buy a BMW that's out of warranty and drive it daily. The upkeep is the same as raising the kid.

Wanna find out what it's like getting a single mom pregnant? Buy a 10 year old Range Rover and drive it daily for 10 years. The maintenance costs over time are just as high.

What's it like to be married to a 304 or onlyfans girl? Buy a used Maserati out of warranty. Drive it daily. The upkeep will kick your ass.

Kids are liabilities most of the time.

 

[nismo-4]

There's no difference between mental abundance and physical abundance anyway though

Abundance can be the knowledge that you can and will meet new women and doesn't necessarily imply you actively have a harem of them. But sure I can maybe see a scenario where it's cope because of course men delude themselves into thinking they're making every women they meet cream herself, but not sure that's terribly common with men especially ones who in fact can't get pvssy, that doesn't really make any sense.

Meeting women and getting their numbers is fine, but are you actually dating and having sex with them? Most guys aren't.

The other cope men are doing is "ignoring women" under the guise of "focusing on themselves". How is one ignoring women when he has no women to ignore? Truth is he has no women who are genuinely interested in him or attracted to him and is invisible. Next guy you hear say that, give him 5 million dollars, a Lambo, a RR Cullinan, and a penthouse downtown. He'll be focused on himself as well as the appointments he has piping out the Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders!

 

[GoodMan32]

Meeting women and getting their numbers is fine, but are you actually dating and having sex with them? Most guys aren't.

The other cope men are doing is "ignoring women" under the guise of "focusing on themselves". How is one ignoring women when he has no women to ignore? Truth is he has no women who are genuinely interested in him or attracted to him and is invisible. Next guy you hear say that, give him 5 million dollars, a Lambo, a RR Cullinan, and a penthouse downtown. He'll be focused on himself as well as the appointments he has piping out the Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders!

Some men are practically incapable of picking up on interest (and even if we pick up on interest, don't know what to do about the interest).

It isn't always that there are no women for us to ignore.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

The other cope men are doing is "ignoring women" under the guise of "focusing on themselves". How is one ignoring women when he has no women to ignore? Truth is he has no women who are genuinely interested in him or attracted to him and is invisible. Next guy you hear say that, give him 5 million dollars, a Lambo, a RR Cullinan, and a penthouse downtown. He'll be focused on himself as well as the appointments he has piping out the Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders!

I'm not sure how this is related...but I absolutely agree and this is hilarious behavior to me. I see it a lot from the MGTOW types especially how many of they act like dropping out of the dating market is going to have any impact on these women. Or even men like Rich Cooper who say "chase success, not women" and guys eat it up and think that women will just start jumping on their **** the moment they're fit and rich and they don't have to put in their work and build the experience/skills associated with women eg shvt tests, setting boundaries, vetting, etc etc....

The whole idea of people who claim to do things "for themselves" are generally fvcking clowns as it is. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you workout to attract women or even admit that's part of the reason.

Some men are practically incapable of picking up on interest (and even if we pick up on interest, don't know what to do about the interest).

It isn't always that there are no women for us to ignore.

Might as well just assume interest if you aren't certain, and just talk to them, you'll find out quickly, and learn to spot true IOIs better over time. There's not much to analyze there.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

There is no way I am ever suggesting a nice steak restaurant...you already put yourself in the simp category with her as soon as you try and set that date up and that's her expectations from you moving forward.

It's a low probability play and not something a quality woman would do, but it depends what you are looking for.

On one hand guys cry about not being able to find quality women but yet they screen for only low quality women.

Can't have it both ways.

True

 

[BaronOfHair]

why are you afraid of inviting strange women into your home? whats the worst they could do?

Just for starters

 

[MatureDJ]

I posted this earlier as an amusing anecdote but I've refined the idea.

Here's what you do. Suggest a nice place for your first date like a ****tail lounge or steak restaurant. Day of or day before, say you're not feeling well but still want to see her and ask if she wants to just come over to your place to watch a movie and get takeout or ice cream or whatever the ****.

This works because it gives you plausible deniability and lets her rationalize the behavior in her own mind. It is even more effective if you name a specific place and specific time so she knows you at least put effort into planning the date which helps the plausible deniability even more. This tactic also works great to protect against flakes and low IL women t since changing plans at the last minute forces them to comply and confirm to new plans rather than texting something like "we still on?" which won't go over well with most women. This tactic may not work with every girl but it weeds out the low interest ones which probably would have just flaked or done some other BS anyway and overall is much more efficient.

I see the logic here, but it could deter a chick that has conditional IL; in any case, a high IL would want to come over on her own eventually. Or maybe I am looking at this from the perspective of having little to no options.

 

[MatureDJ]

I just send them a picture of my garden and tell them my cappuccino Is the best in Amsterdam.

CoffeeMaxxing?

 

[Vanderdonck]

Seduction might be easy and fun for you.

It's hard and miserable for some of us.

I tried and failed many times to get better. To me it's more effective and beneficial than strategizing using dishonesty.

 

[GoodMan32]

I tried and failed many times to get better. To me it's more effective and beneficial than strategizing using dishonesty.

A coworker said he views failure as a learning experience (to reflect on what he should do different going forward).

I don't get his mentality. Failure does nothing but p1ss me off. My solution? I think a woman should get off her high horse (and stop making us jump through hoops and hurdles to get her into the sack)

 

[BaronOfHair]

A coworker said he views failure as a learning experience (to reflect on what he should do different going forward).

I don't get his mentality. Failure does nothing but p1ss me off. My solution? I think a woman should get off her high horse (and stop making us jump through hoops and hurdles to get her into the sack)

As we discussed on a separate thread https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...g-moves-in-person.282277/page-10#post-3120566 , not too long ago: "Failure" and "success" are polarized ways of viewing reality that each of us has to be wary of falling into. In your case, just saying "Yo" to 1-2 real life women out in reality, preferably 1-2 times a day (Rather than roaming cyberspace, pretending to desire aid, then "Yes, but"ing every last ounce of counsel you receive. As opposed to simply saying: "That's an idea. I'll give it a whirl"), would be a success

In regards to your second point: As has also been discussed elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...as-bad-as-it-seems.282323/page-3#post-3121147 Women have to learn how to attract men also

 

[GoodMan32]

Your coworker is right, you learn more from your failures than your successes.


That is why you're such a failure.


That's why you're a wh0remonger, because you have unrealistic ideas about how women should service you.

When you're a normal man, like the rest of us, you don't have to 'jump through hoops and hurdles'. If women are unattainable for you, it's mostly because you don't go out and be the type of man women want to be with.

In short, you're bad company. And if you don't learn how to be good company, you'll just have to be your own company.

Being on the spectrum repels the vast majority of the female population. That isn't an excuse; simply a fact.

Elliot Rodger had good looks, wealthy parents, and was at a California college. Yet he still couldn't get laid (because he was on the spectrum)

 

[pipeman84]

but Friday last I matched with a little cutie 5’0” size 0-2 on Bumble. A recent widow coming out of her shell for the first time in 5 years.

Here is the sequence:

1. Chatted on app for a few back and forth - then asked her to coffee early on Saturday.
1.5 Getting ready to meet said "here's my number" I prefer texting, she said "me too".
2. Met in a little bougie coffee shop in one of the horse/billionaire communities near me.
3. Chatted for an hour and started the kino, she was open body language, is into fitness like me, and was very comfortable - mind you guys I’m talking about stuff like grabbing her hand while I was telling her an exciting story, moving her beautiful long chestnut hair aside to see her earrings, touching her forearm, grabbing her by the calve to shake her at a funny point in the conversation and so on.
4. We decided to go for a long walk all through a huge plant nursery that fortunately had narrow corridors allowing us to graze one another repeatedly as we talked about plants and laughed and then said goodbye, with a hug and some deep looks and hand holds. It was clear the attraction was there, very open body language and generous hug.
5. We texted the rest of the day a few back and forths and now we’re set to meet for a drink/happy hour tomorrow early evening at a place convenient to both of us.
6. Friday night she’ll (unbeknownst to her yet) be at my place for a home cooked dinner and a dip in the pool/hot tub.

TLDR, a widow waited for 5 years to match with James Bond on Bumble who very smoothly gets her from the app to his hot tub within a week or so.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

TLDR, a widow waited for 5 years to match with James Bond on Bumble who very smoothly gets her from the app to his hot tub within a week or so.

Not sure why something so simple is so hard for you to fathom, Hasslehoff.

Protip: just because you cannot do it, does not mean others cannot.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Was Elliot Rodger intelligent? How intelligent was he?

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[GoodMan32]

You're not dating the 'vast majority' of the female population.

True. However, if the vast majority of the female population is repulsed by men on the spectrum, it's highly unlikely I'm going to find a woman willing to tolerate me.

Other than the 8 month relationship I've mentioned, none of my relationships have lasted long.

Typically, one of two things will happen:

-Even though I never officially inform any of my romantic interests that I'm on the spectrum, my spectrum mannerisms inevitably come out (and drive her away)

-Alternatively, there have been instances where the woman wanted to stay with me. Let's put it this way though: Any woman willing to tolerate my spectrum mannerisms has something severely wrong with her. I end up growing tired of her baggage (and I end up having to break it off with her)

 

[BaronOfHair]

Being on the spectrum repels the vast majority of the female population. That isn't an excuse; simply a fact

Psychopathy, in theory, has many traits that could repel most women, yet this didn't hinder Derek Todd Lee https://www.nola.com/news/crime_pol...cle_2c4d8524-852d-578b-8835-74b2b3429968.html For a guy who may or may or not be on the autism spectrum to then assert that his diagnosis is an insurmountable obstacle just gives rational thought a lousy name


"Even though I never officially inform any of my romantic interests that I'm on the spectrum, my spectrum mannerisms inevitably come out (and drive her away)"

And now that you're aware of what those mannerisms are, you can not display them, or/and replace them with more well-socialized ones. Again, if sociopaths/psychopaths can alter their behaviors so as to appear off-putting, there's no excuse for the rest of us not being able to do so

 

[pipeman84]

Not sure why something so simple is so hard for you to fathom, Hasslehoff.

Protip: just because you cannot do it, does not mean others cannot.

That's Steve Reeves in my profile pic, not David Hasselhoff.
What's hard to fathom is why would a woman abstain from sex for 5 years yet have sex (or close to) within a week or so of meeting a total stranger on a dating app.