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Dude, get over yourself and hook a F A T Chick UP! I'm sure there's at least ONE working at the Supermarket right now... Yeah, I've been drinking. What.
Fact is, WE'D ALL Like to bang nothing but Angelina Jolies and Jessica Albas ALL DAY AND NIGHT!! However, Real girls are not as Hot. That is what the rest of the world calls "Normal".
Remember, one man's 8 or 9, is another man's Perfect 10!!!
Now get out there and score, God-Dammit!!!
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Fat Pu$$y feels pretty good, but only if she has a Pretty Face!:crackup:
Dude, get over yourself and hook a F A T Chick UP! I'm sure there's at least ONE working at the Supermarket right now... Yeah, I've been drinking. What.
Fact is, WE'D ALL Like to bang nothing but Angelina Jolies and Jessica Albas ALL DAY AND NIGHT!! However, Real girls are not as Hot. That is what the rest of the world calls "Normal".
Remember, one man's 8 or 9, is another man's Perfect 10!!!
Now get out there and score, God-Dammit!!!
:cuss:
P.S.
Fat Pu$$y feels pretty good, but only if she has a Pretty Face!:crackup:
Invisible Man,
Sounds like you simply lack practice in the art of socializing.
Frankly, it's a skill. Some people never become proficient because of disorders (I doubt that in your case), and some are simply left off the boat as children (and maybe only reach it by row boat when it's anchored off shore).
You might just need practice. You can simply drop yourself in the middle of many situations that demand you interact with people (in a casual manner--not professional) and see if it helps. Of course, that will take time.
You can also see a therapist and steer them in that direction re treatment if they're not heading in that direction anyway. Talking to a professional might be great, but I doubt any amount of talking or even drugs will transform the way you generally respond to others socially.
Personally, I'd get smiling and hit the clubs.
Sounds like you simply lack practice in the art of socializing.
Frankly, it's a skill. Some people never become proficient because of disorders (I doubt that in your case), and some are simply left off the boat as children (and maybe only reach it by row boat when it's anchored off shore).
You might just need practice. You can simply drop yourself in the middle of many situations that demand you interact with people (in a casual manner--not professional) and see if it helps. Of course, that will take time.
You can also see a therapist and steer them in that direction re treatment if they're not heading in that direction anyway. Talking to a professional might be great, but I doubt any amount of talking or even drugs will transform the way you generally respond to others socially.
Personally, I'd get smiling and hit the clubs.
SoCalMike
Senior Don Juan
i smell BS
you're tall, handsome, six pack abs, own your own business, etc. yet you're a virgin at 36? dude, unless you were a complete fat ass loser your whole life up until a year ago, this seriously stinks to high heaven of BS.
and even a fat ass can get laid now and then, with fat girls.
There is something you're not telling us or you're just a troll.
you're tall, handsome, six pack abs, own your own business, etc. yet you're a virgin at 36? dude, unless you were a complete fat ass loser your whole life up until a year ago, this seriously stinks to high heaven of BS.
and even a fat ass can get laid now and then, with fat girls.
There is something you're not telling us or you're just a troll.
InvisibleMan
Don Juan
Ok I completed week 1 of the boot camp. I don’t know if I should post this here or what, but first I would like to address the people who have been calling me a troll. First of all I am new to this whole web forum stuff and didn’t really know what a troll was, so I looked it up. On a wikipedia it says a troll is:
"a person who posts messages in order to provoke an angry response or to start trouble without adding anything worthwhile to the conversation."
Ok, my posts may provoke angry responses because that seems to be what inferior individuals do when confronted by someone who is less successful at something than they are. But I do believe I have contributed greatly to this discussion in that maybe I can inspire some people who feel like I do (invisible), and could maybe even make some of you more experienced DJs think about stuff.
I cannot help it if my story seems outlandish. How the hell do you think I feel? I have all the makings of a guy who should have no problems getting laid and it doesn’t happen. How do you think that makes me feel? I had run my problem around so many times in my head I had thought for many years that I have a curse on me. I found no rational explanation for never having any women so I began to look for irrational reasons. HOW DO YOU THINK THAT MAKES ME FEEL?
I actually don’t blame you guys for not believing me; my own brother doesn’t believe me. I mean, a guy with my gifts and not EVER having any women attracted to you is about akin to walking through a rainstorm without getting wet. It’s miraculous. But am I a troll? No. I’m just a guy here to try get some help (and some of you guys have been helpful) – and I don’t need any stupid therapists.
Ok, getting back to the Boot Camp. I find it pretty amazing if you look around at people to try to establish eye contact to say “hello” or whatever, how many people look at the ground or simply refuse to meet your eyes – women & men! And have you ever noticed how many people are just generally unhappy looking or even pissed off? I didn’t really have a problem with this one because I’m not all that shy and don’t have issues with saying hi to people and looking them in the eye.
Another thing I am trying to do is smile more. I’m trying to walk around with a contented smile on my face and act with a lot more buoyancy and energy. In a way, I’m trying to ACT like a guy who just won 5 million in the lottery. Not a goofy grin, just a contented self confident smile. And it’s often very hard! My body is often sore from yesterday’s workout, I’m always hungry ‘cause I’m still trying to lose some weight, sometimes I’m tired, and I just don’t FEEL like smiling and acting all confident. But when I am out, I do. Because I want to make this work.
- Invisible Man
"a person who posts messages in order to provoke an angry response or to start trouble without adding anything worthwhile to the conversation."
Ok, my posts may provoke angry responses because that seems to be what inferior individuals do when confronted by someone who is less successful at something than they are. But I do believe I have contributed greatly to this discussion in that maybe I can inspire some people who feel like I do (invisible), and could maybe even make some of you more experienced DJs think about stuff.
I cannot help it if my story seems outlandish. How the hell do you think I feel? I have all the makings of a guy who should have no problems getting laid and it doesn’t happen. How do you think that makes me feel? I had run my problem around so many times in my head I had thought for many years that I have a curse on me. I found no rational explanation for never having any women so I began to look for irrational reasons. HOW DO YOU THINK THAT MAKES ME FEEL?
I actually don’t blame you guys for not believing me; my own brother doesn’t believe me. I mean, a guy with my gifts and not EVER having any women attracted to you is about akin to walking through a rainstorm without getting wet. It’s miraculous. But am I a troll? No. I’m just a guy here to try get some help (and some of you guys have been helpful) – and I don’t need any stupid therapists.
Ok, getting back to the Boot Camp. I find it pretty amazing if you look around at people to try to establish eye contact to say “hello” or whatever, how many people look at the ground or simply refuse to meet your eyes – women & men! And have you ever noticed how many people are just generally unhappy looking or even pissed off? I didn’t really have a problem with this one because I’m not all that shy and don’t have issues with saying hi to people and looking them in the eye.
Another thing I am trying to do is smile more. I’m trying to walk around with a contented smile on my face and act with a lot more buoyancy and energy. In a way, I’m trying to ACT like a guy who just won 5 million in the lottery. Not a goofy grin, just a contented self confident smile. And it’s often very hard! My body is often sore from yesterday’s workout, I’m always hungry ‘cause I’m still trying to lose some weight, sometimes I’m tired, and I just don’t FEEL like smiling and acting all confident. But when I am out, I do. Because I want to make this work.
- Invisible Man
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Tall good looking, buffed bod, self employed, 36 year old man, who finds it hard to smile because of workouts and dieting, seeks sexual partner. No previous experience apart from quickie with escort. Own brother doesn't believe him.
Of all the forums on all the websites, in this world, he has to walk into this one. Apologies for Casablanca fans.
Of all the forums on all the websites, in this world, he has to walk into this one. Apologies for Casablanca fans.
So they call you a troll. The posters here also gave you a ton of valuable advice. I read through the entire thread and there have been so many good tips.
I myself have been in a bit of a lull as well. And I think like some people said, it's as if I am expecting too much and am going for too much. Well you know what? It helps to lower the expectations, talk with everyone, and smile and have fun doing it. Until I personally can do that on a consistent basis, getting hooked up will be quite a ways away.
How's the boot camp coming along?
I myself have been in a bit of a lull as well. And I think like some people said, it's as if I am expecting too much and am going for too much. Well you know what? It helps to lower the expectations, talk with everyone, and smile and have fun doing it. Until I personally can do that on a consistent basis, getting hooked up will be quite a ways away.
How's the boot camp coming along?
InvisibleMan
Don Juan
OK guys, here is an update on progress:
I'm almost finished with week 2 of the bot camp. It's OK - I mean, I still don't have too many problems approaching people so it's not a big deal.
I've taken some of you bastard's advice and have started approaching fat and ugly women, and I asked 20 of them out in the last 2 weeks! I've ignored women I think are pretty 'cause you're right - pretty women are just out of my league. And I've been portraying a ****y/confident attitude.
The women I have approached have all either been a) fairly homely and or b) at least 20 pounds overweight, and probably between the ages of 26 and 40.
12 - said they have boyfriends.
4 - just outright laughed and said no.
1 - said she was married.
3 - said yes, when they have time, but have never returned my phone call.
So I'm still 0 for 60! Does this **** get any easier? LOL. One woman (the one who said she was married, was actually missing teeth - I think she was on meth).
The women who said had boyfriends, I said "bring 'em along!" They just laughed and said "I can't do that!" Tried to push a little more, but no go.
Ah well, there's always tomorrow!
- Invisible Man
I'm almost finished with week 2 of the bot camp. It's OK - I mean, I still don't have too many problems approaching people so it's not a big deal.
I've taken some of you bastard's advice and have started approaching fat and ugly women, and I asked 20 of them out in the last 2 weeks! I've ignored women I think are pretty 'cause you're right - pretty women are just out of my league. And I've been portraying a ****y/confident attitude.
The women I have approached have all either been a) fairly homely and or b) at least 20 pounds overweight, and probably between the ages of 26 and 40.
12 - said they have boyfriends.
4 - just outright laughed and said no.
1 - said she was married.
3 - said yes, when they have time, but have never returned my phone call.
So I'm still 0 for 60! Does this **** get any easier? LOL. One woman (the one who said she was married, was actually missing teeth - I think she was on meth).
The women who said had boyfriends, I said "bring 'em along!" They just laughed and said "I can't do that!" Tried to push a little more, but no go.
Ah well, there's always tomorrow!
- Invisible Man
InvisibleMan
Don Juan
Weren't you one of the guys who were dogging me for not wanting to lower my standards? Well, I lowered 'em and I haven't had too much luck so far. Maybe I'll try the goddam circus freak show next. Some of those women in there must want to get laid.Latinoman said:
'Course I'd be in there right next to 'em. I can see it now: "Step right up ladies and gents and SEE the man who can't get a date if his life depended on it! Hurry! Hurry! Step right up and see the man who even repulses the 800 pound fat lady! Step right up!"
Oh God, sometimes I crack myself up! It's the only way I keep whatever shred of sanity I've got left.
- Invisible Man
A few of us have asked this before - what are your hobbies, interests and goals besides women? Why not answer back on this. Perhaps we can give some suggestions regarding events or activities that will help you build up some rapport with women outside of work, then believe me you'll be hearing yes a lot more.
So, you're doing something that isn't working to well. I think a wise person would then stop (like you have) and modify and then get out there and try again (which we hope you will).
I believe your recent round of failures (great job on the number of approaches BTW
) has to do with not being able to reach a comfort level when talking with them. If you can't get them in this zone, even the ugly girls are going reject. So, are you just approaching and directly asking them out or are you getting into a light comfortable convo first?
Oh yeah. You might have a perceived advantage when it comes to appearance (given your recent rounds of targets) yet it means nothing if you're throwing off a bad vibe.
Something interesting: Your response "bring 'em along!" was definitely a different InvisibleMan
Heck, maybe you should re-do week 2 and ask out 20 HB's instead. I bet you can't do any worse
So, you're doing something that isn't working to well. I think a wise person would then stop (like you have) and modify and then get out there and try again (which we hope you will).
I believe your recent round of failures (great job on the number of approaches BTW
) has to do with not being able to reach a comfort level when talking with them. If you can't get them in this zone, even the ugly girls are going reject. So, are you just approaching and directly asking them out or are you getting into a light comfortable convo first?Oh yeah. You might have a perceived advantage when it comes to appearance (given your recent rounds of targets) yet it means nothing if you're throwing off a bad vibe.
Something interesting: Your response "bring 'em along!" was definitely a different InvisibleMan
Heck, maybe you should re-do week 2 and ask out 20 HB's instead. I bet you can't do any worse
InvisibleMan
Don Juan
OK hobbies and interests - and a little about me:
First off, I work about 60 hours a week. Being self-employed I kind of have to put in this many hours. It's a trade off - work for "the man" and work less hours (even this is debatable), or work for yourself but put in a lot of time. I work a lot behind a computer so I'm able to sneak in here once in awhile.
My main interest and hobby is reading. I read about a book a week - anything from fiction to history to science. I have a voracious appetite to learn stuff. But please don't suggest book clubs. I've done this and I can't stand sitting around with a bunch of middle-aged women vomiting out their feelings over some nonsensical chick Oprah-book. I really just can't stand this. I've thought about getting together a book group for guys and more "manly" books but this is about as easy as nailing jell-o to a wall. So, next hobby....
I spend about 10 hours a week at the gym. I do some type of exercise daily (at least some cardio). I've met a few casual acquaintances at the gym (all guys). The gym I go to doesn't have a lot of women there. It's a pretty serious gym where serious men go to actually work out. Lots of iron being thrown around, lots of machines, lots of testosterone. It's a good gym - and it's cheap (about $30 a month).
Next interest - cycling/hiking - any kind of outdoor type stuff. But it's winter here now and very cold and this is mainly a summer thing for me.
I do some casual gaming - Old Avalon Hill wargames and Advanced Squad Leader type-stuff (boardgames, not PC games). Those of you who know what this is know what it is. Those of you who don't - I can only tell you the rulebook is about 300 pages and weighs about 5 pounds in a 3-ring binder and is probably the most advanced, realistic, and complicated World War II tactical simulation ever invented. Not exactly chick magnet-type stuff, and I can tell you the guys involved are either married or very nerdy and not exactly the type to attract women.
That's about it. I did sign up for some dance classes, and learned some primitive ballroom steps, but there were only 8 other people in the class and they were all married couples.
I mean life isn't too bad for me, but it would be nice to just have sex or have a date once in awhile.
Cheers!
- Invisible Man
First off, I work about 60 hours a week. Being self-employed I kind of have to put in this many hours. It's a trade off - work for "the man" and work less hours (even this is debatable), or work for yourself but put in a lot of time. I work a lot behind a computer so I'm able to sneak in here once in awhile.
My main interest and hobby is reading. I read about a book a week - anything from fiction to history to science. I have a voracious appetite to learn stuff. But please don't suggest book clubs. I've done this and I can't stand sitting around with a bunch of middle-aged women vomiting out their feelings over some nonsensical chick Oprah-book. I really just can't stand this. I've thought about getting together a book group for guys and more "manly" books but this is about as easy as nailing jell-o to a wall. So, next hobby....
I spend about 10 hours a week at the gym. I do some type of exercise daily (at least some cardio). I've met a few casual acquaintances at the gym (all guys). The gym I go to doesn't have a lot of women there. It's a pretty serious gym where serious men go to actually work out. Lots of iron being thrown around, lots of machines, lots of testosterone. It's a good gym - and it's cheap (about $30 a month).
Next interest - cycling/hiking - any kind of outdoor type stuff. But it's winter here now and very cold and this is mainly a summer thing for me.
I do some casual gaming - Old Avalon Hill wargames and Advanced Squad Leader type-stuff (boardgames, not PC games). Those of you who know what this is know what it is. Those of you who don't - I can only tell you the rulebook is about 300 pages and weighs about 5 pounds in a 3-ring binder and is probably the most advanced, realistic, and complicated World War II tactical simulation ever invented. Not exactly chick magnet-type stuff, and I can tell you the guys involved are either married or very nerdy and not exactly the type to attract women.
That's about it. I did sign up for some dance classes, and learned some primitive ballroom steps, but there were only 8 other people in the class and they were all married couples.
I mean life isn't too bad for me, but it would be nice to just have sex or have a date once in awhile.
Cheers!
- Invisible Man
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Alright, now we're getting somewhere!
I think you're wise keeping your workouts sacred, a guys gotta put himself first and this is a excellent example.
Several years ago I was pretty involved in online gaming (Quake, etc.) gotta admit it can be a blast. Then I realized (for me) that the online gaming and especially TV were really no longer a positive part of my life. My TV is no longer plugged into the wall and I haven't played an online game since. I can say for a fact that my social life changed a great deal as I made those (and other) changes.
You're into hiking/biking and outdoor stuff. If you're doing any online dating that is good material to show you're active and love to get out and about. Also good conversation material if you can find a nice segue to it during casual chats.
I myself work about 48-50hrs a week. Tech stuff. Another change I forced myself through several years ago was making myself make a clean break between work and the remainder of the day. During a few of my nerdy climb the ladder years, I'm sure I was about as exciting as a box or rocks, talking work sh!t at all times. I purged that behaviour, it served a purpose and am glad it's behind me. Now I'm reluctant to talk about what I do, its more fun having them work it out of me!
No one is going to fault you for reading. Do you always buy your books in stores (a good venue to meet women especially if you're well read)? Also, have you done any extended reading related to self-help. I'm sure the girls here can recommend several great books to get you thinking in different ways.
There's always talk on the forumn regarding taking dance classes (ie Salsa, etc). If you at least found it interesting the previous time, why not give it another go and with a little research I'd think you could find a more singles oriented class.
I'd also recommend taking a cooking class. Do it for yourself unless you're already a good cook. Those skills will come in handy soon now when you start pulling 2nd and 3rd dates.
And don't forget the charity stuff. Women dig this type of activity. If there is some type of charity work you would like to do for yourself, give it a shot. The odds are there will be single women running around with the same interests, not a bad gig if its something you like.
A few years back I challenged myself to finally stop making excuses and try the things I have always been interested in. It has been these steps that have had the largest positive impact (w/r to women in my life). I did them simply because I was interested in them and quite frankly I was too naive to even realize the potential for meeting women.
So I'm suggesting that you also pull out your Life's Wishlist and refresh your mind as to what's on it. Anything interesting there?
I think you're wise keeping your workouts sacred, a guys gotta put himself first and this is a excellent example.
Several years ago I was pretty involved in online gaming (Quake, etc.) gotta admit it can be a blast. Then I realized (for me) that the online gaming and especially TV were really no longer a positive part of my life. My TV is no longer plugged into the wall and I haven't played an online game since. I can say for a fact that my social life changed a great deal as I made those (and other) changes.
You're into hiking/biking and outdoor stuff. If you're doing any online dating that is good material to show you're active and love to get out and about. Also good conversation material if you can find a nice segue to it during casual chats.
I myself work about 48-50hrs a week. Tech stuff. Another change I forced myself through several years ago was making myself make a clean break between work and the remainder of the day. During a few of my nerdy climb the ladder years, I'm sure I was about as exciting as a box or rocks, talking work sh!t at all times. I purged that behaviour, it served a purpose and am glad it's behind me. Now I'm reluctant to talk about what I do, its more fun having them work it out of me!
No one is going to fault you for reading. Do you always buy your books in stores (a good venue to meet women especially if you're well read)? Also, have you done any extended reading related to self-help. I'm sure the girls here can recommend several great books to get you thinking in different ways.
There's always talk on the forumn regarding taking dance classes (ie Salsa, etc). If you at least found it interesting the previous time, why not give it another go and with a little research I'd think you could find a more singles oriented class.
I'd also recommend taking a cooking class. Do it for yourself unless you're already a good cook. Those skills will come in handy soon now when you start pulling 2nd and 3rd dates.
And don't forget the charity stuff. Women dig this type of activity. If there is some type of charity work you would like to do for yourself, give it a shot. The odds are there will be single women running around with the same interests, not a bad gig if its something you like.
A few years back I challenged myself to finally stop making excuses and try the things I have always been interested in. It has been these steps that have had the largest positive impact (w/r to women in my life). I did them simply because I was interested in them and quite frankly I was too naive to even realize the potential for meeting women.
So I'm suggesting that you also pull out your Life's Wishlist and refresh your mind as to what's on it. Anything interesting there?
You misunderstood my point. In the past you stated that you would ONLY date HB8 to HB10.InvisibleMan said:
I said that you might have to lower your standards in the look department. Which means that you might have to EXPAND the range. I didn't tell you to stop hitting on HB8 or HB10s. What I said is that if an oportunity arises with an HB5 or HB6...then take it!
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Ecclesiastes 9:11 "I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding; but time and chance happeneth to them all".
Invisibleman;
Congratulations on your boot-camp - you can read mine - I tried it myself, but gave up when people on this board were saying it's basically a waste of time, and I should just try and put my energies to making money or moving out of here instead.
This is the second time in the past 24 hours that I've heard that 'kissing' is actually quite important in the first-time experience, and without it, it's pretty meaningless. I'm not in a hurry to just lose my virginity as I am for both sharing and experiencing 'intimate' types of feelings. When I was looking for a hooker earlier this month, I was especially looking on the internet for the abbreviations "LK, DFK, GFE", because those means "Light Kiss, Deep French Kiss, Girl Friend Experience", and that's more important than any other service that they may offer, because if they dont have those, the quality of experience is just going to nose-dive. I would also look for good reviews from escorts, and look for ones that seem to have a good attitude, are hygenic and are not clock-watchers (no rush service) You just had a bad time with the first escort you went with.
Now the problem with hookers is that they have oral sex with other
clients, and sometimes without a condom. So, if you kiss them, especially french kiss them, then your tongue is in a mouth that basically sucks lots of c0cks daily for a living. I've decided not to use any hooker in this sector, but just went on the internet getting information about them for kicks. Another thing, is that unless you are talking to women, lots of women, and getting comfortable talking with them, but instead using a hooker instead of closing the ones you are talking with, then I've heard that it could work out better.
I'm really sorry about your bad first-time experience with that escort, but unless you do proper research about them, what services they offer, what reviews they got, then it's sort of buyer's beware.
I've never been with an escort, massage parlour, or strip club myself, nor do I intend to at this time, but I've heard second-hand information about both good and bad experiences in that department.
Invisibleman;
Congratulations on your boot-camp - you can read mine - I tried it myself, but gave up when people on this board were saying it's basically a waste of time, and I should just try and put my energies to making money or moving out of here instead.
This is the second time in the past 24 hours that I've heard that 'kissing' is actually quite important in the first-time experience, and without it, it's pretty meaningless. I'm not in a hurry to just lose my virginity as I am for both sharing and experiencing 'intimate' types of feelings. When I was looking for a hooker earlier this month, I was especially looking on the internet for the abbreviations "LK, DFK, GFE", because those means "Light Kiss, Deep French Kiss, Girl Friend Experience", and that's more important than any other service that they may offer, because if they dont have those, the quality of experience is just going to nose-dive. I would also look for good reviews from escorts, and look for ones that seem to have a good attitude, are hygenic and are not clock-watchers (no rush service) You just had a bad time with the first escort you went with.
Now the problem with hookers is that they have oral sex with other
clients, and sometimes without a condom. So, if you kiss them, especially french kiss them, then your tongue is in a mouth that basically sucks lots of c0cks daily for a living. I've decided not to use any hooker in this sector, but just went on the internet getting information about them for kicks. Another thing, is that unless you are talking to women, lots of women, and getting comfortable talking with them, but instead using a hooker instead of closing the ones you are talking with, then I've heard that it could work out better.
I'm really sorry about your bad first-time experience with that escort, but unless you do proper research about them, what services they offer, what reviews they got, then it's sort of buyer's beware.
I've never been with an escort, massage parlour, or strip club myself, nor do I intend to at this time, but I've heard second-hand information about both good and bad experiences in that department.
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Take a tape recorder out with you it's obviously WHAT you are saying to them or how you say it! Then post it here.
Girls hate deep and meaningful conversations or talking to a guy when it's obvious he has no skills but is looking to get layed. I know - it's a ***** because you are either two leachy or not sexual. You have to be flirty but not looking to just get a **** while keeping it funny. Another thing is girls hate BORING and crave excitement.
Girls hate deep and meaningful conversations or talking to a guy when it's obvious he has no skills but is looking to get layed. I know - it's a ***** because you are either two leachy or not sexual. You have to be flirty but not looking to just get a **** while keeping it funny. Another thing is girls hate BORING and crave excitement.
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