Originally posted by MindOverMatter
This is gonna be a good thread so I'll throw my 2c in.
Around 3+ years ago, I was 6'2, 220-230 lbs, 20%+ bodyfat. I still dated, had girlfriends etc, and was pretty happy with the way I was. Even tho I had a bad body, my game more then made up for it.
Then I decided to pursue a career in law enforcement, and since I'm a pretty competitive guy, I wanted to be ahead of my competition. I look at their police training sessions etc, and saw that most of the guys were in poor shape just like I was at the moment.
So I started working out, doing bodybuilding research, eating properly, and quit drinking. Now I'm at 210 lbs, but I'm at 11% bodyfat. My current photo is in my signature.
the difference the change has had on my game has been insane. While I had good success rates before, they became phenomenal afterwards. Girls became more aggressive, started chasing me, and became infatuated with me even tho I didn't even use my A game on them. As soon as I started talking to them, I instantly had complete rapport. Whereas before I would ask for the number etc, after they would be the ones saying we should do something, you want my #?
It's one giant ego trip when you are the one being pursued instead of vice versa. I go swimming at my old college, and the amount of attention I get there is mind boggling. When I go out with my boys to an older (cougar) club, it's the same sh!t.
When a girl thinks you are hot, she becomes a completly different person. Her willpower, confidence disappears. She becomes more shy, loses that dominant edge she has with symps, and is basically under your control. You get all this just from visuaully attracting them.
And if you have game AND looks, they will become obsessed with you, and it wont be long before they start bringing up marriage conversations and you have to drop them.
You shouldn't see it in black and white. You can have the body AND the personality. In fact you need both. Some women aren't impressed by a good phisique and need more then that to start their engine. Others are into you as soon as they see you.
Yes, you get confidence from having an amazing body and that's a bonus, but that's not why women go for guys with these bodies. Despite what you may want to think, they're just as visually stimulated as we are.
First of all, you shouldn't work out for women. You should work out to be fit, healthy, and become a stronger, better person. I'm never gonna stop exercising.
Secondly, your looks enhance your personality. When I used to take forensic psychology, one of the topics we covered in class was about how juries tend to be more lenient on good looking defendants, assuming they're innocent, while assuming the ugly ones are guilty.
One of my boys that I wing with is an amazing natural. His game is weak, but his looks make up for it. He's not really muscular, he's thin, but has great facial genetics. Blonde hair, blue eyes, etc, standard nick carter lookalike.
Back in the day I couldn't even wing with him, cause he'd get all the attention (even tho he wasnt trying), nowdays we're pretty much equal, although I do better then him on a lot of nights. I guess it's because I'm in better shape, and I prolly have better game since I was used to picking up without the advantage of a killer body back in the day.
One thing I noticed back in the day was it didn't matter what he was saying, the girls would all think he was funny or had a great personality. Sometimes he'd even tell a bad joke on purpose just to see how they'd react, and most of the times the b!tches would laugh. They were so attracted to him, that no matter what he said to them, they'd think it was funny and that he was a fun guy. And this is not an act either, they actually thought this sh!t lol.
If I said something like that back when I was 230, there's no way I'd get that kind of reaction. Now, I get it almost all the time.
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To sum it all up, work out, be in amazing shape, but don't neglect your game either. The more you cover all your bases, the easier it is to get to all her bases.