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Girl #45 – HB 6

Another day, another Facebook pull. I send 5-10 friend requests/day and message girls who accept 2 days later. A shotgun ‘what’s up ‘ got an almost immediate response and as we were both online, proceeded to chat a little.

20 years old, gorgeous face, but a little on the thick side. Still, just made it past my cutoff. HB 6 due to pudginess only. It’s a tragedy really, seeing girls who have a face to masturbate to but need to lose weight. Drop 20lbs and she’s a 7 easy. Drop 30 and we’re looking at 8+.

We make small talk about art (yours truly is a bona fide artiste) and swap some photos of artwork. After a few messages she has to leave and offers her number for me to text. When a girl gives you her number without you asking, it’s a fairly significant IOI. I tell her we should get a drink and continue this offline. I wasn’t planning for that night, but she comes back offering to split a bottle of wine with me – at my place. Skip the bar comfort building stage altogether.

She comes over later that night and we sit on my porch and drink. Our chairs are facing each other, though somewhat far apart. This is part of kino escalation. At first there’s no contact, but then I position my leg to touch hers. Soon our legs are in constant contact. A glass in I tell her I can’t hear her with the street noise so I pull her chair in to me, which gets an immediate response. It’s kind of like throwing a girl around in bed – they love the display of masculine strength and this is no different. I literally pull in girls I’m sitting next to at a bar closer once conversation is going well, but I digress. There’s rarely a right moment to make a move and if you properly escalate any time works, so a few minutes later I put my hand behind her head and pull her into me for a makeout. I then tell her we’re going to continue this upstairs and that’s that.

To be fair, this was in the bag to begin with so the more gradual escalation done in public was superfluous. A girl who is willing to meet you at your place or hers, alone, for drinks, is ready to put out. The time between door knock and penis in vagina is just extended foreplay, so have fun with it.

She knew it was a one night stand and asked me if we’re going to have a repeat after the fact, to which I agreed. Of course you can agree and change your mind, but let them down softly. There’s no need to burn bridges; much better to leave on as best terms as possible as a lot of girls tend to come back around if they liked what they got the first time. Being a 6 (weight), I wouldn’t want to parade her around town but a convenience ****, so long as it passes your threshold of regret the next day, is ok from time to time.
 

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To whom to you send these friend requests? Girls that you find without any mutual friends? Do you have a separate Facebook account just for this?
 

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Start with 'people you may know' and your existing attractive friends. Add their friends, starting with the ones you have more 'friends in common' with. I use my normal account. It would take a very long time for me to add 5000 attractive girls so I'm not worried and when I move to a different city, I'll just make a new account or delete almost everyone from my old city.

Once you hit ~1000 friends (which may take months if you're doing it right depending on how many you currently have), most girls in the city you'll have mutual friends with. But it still shouldn't deter you. I've hooked up with girls I've only had 1 friend in common with.
 

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Girl #46 – HB 7.25

It was a Friday night and as I had been enjoying daily marathon sex with #44 for a straight week, I was content staying in to catch up on some reading with a couple brews. That is, until my roommate arrived with his friend and his friend’s girlfriend, both slightly toasted. The couple barged into my room unannounced and I quickly recognized the girl – I had met her at a party a year prior. Early 20s, slim with some curves, a solid 7.25. She was dating one of my acquaintances at the time and although I dropped a few subtle hints, it didn’t go anywhere. Perhaps I wasn’t forward enough. As I later found out, she didn’t forget.

The boyfriend was amicable although I sensed something was off with him, my roommate was in good spirits, and she was all dolled up and a little flirty with me despite his presence, so with a little peer pressure I figured it would be a fun night at worst. We proceeded to our local watering hole. Although boyfriend didn’t seem to mind me stealing her attention (which she was providing willingly), to be on the safe side I got him a birthday drink. It’s a small price to pay for disarmament. For the first half hour or so things were chill. He went off dancing with her while my roommate and I scoped out the scene and talked on the porch for a while. I made small talk with a couple groups of girls in our vicinity, but none caught my eye so it was more of a practice session. Roommate isn’t terribly game-savvy, so I had to pull the weight.

Eventually the couple came back and we re-separated, though this time it was me and her alone while he went off with my roommate. I was still a little cautious and sat some distance from her, but didn’t mind our legs touching. We got to talking about relationships (a perfect conversation topic with any girl at any time), her breaking up with the previous boyfriend, and what was going on now. I discovered that she was friendly with another girl I dated casually a few months prior so my reputation preceded me on this night, and in a good way. I also confirmed my suspicions that her boyfriend was bi, like her ex. What is it with girls these days?

As the night progressed she was getting closer and closer to me, to the point where our legs were inseparable. Even when her boyfriend and my roommate returned and we were all sitting together, she was about as ‘on me’ as possible without setting off an alarm. He was a couple drinks away from passing out by now. We all kept talking and she told me her ex thought I ‘****ed her hard, and I wish you had just so I could tell him yes’. That was my cue. Shortly before leaving, the two of us were alone again and the conversation got dirty. I told her what I wanted to do to her and how we needed to figure out a way to be alone, though it would be tricky. She agreed.

My roommate was going to take them home, but I suggested we all head back, have a couple more drinks, and pass out at our place. The couple liked this idea. In the parking lot boyfriend decided to ride with my roommate, while she got in my car. Bad news for him. Despite being a few drinks deep, I was in James Bond mode. As soon as the door shut I pulled her into me and we started making out. We had a good 5 minute drive with them trailing us, which was the one chance to make something happen. I spent these minutes well. With an eye on the road and a hand on the wheel, our tongues danced and I fingered her to the best of my ability. Multitasking at its finest. As we pulled into my garage, I looked at her and said ‘pretend nothing happened’. I figured this was all I was going to get.

Inside, being the good host that I am, I made drinks to order for all. The couple times I went the bathroom, she quickly followed for a swift makeout, then back down to meet the others. By now the boyfriend was completely smashed, so I helped get him into my roommate’s bed. He took her to join the boyfriend and I shrugged, left my door open, and was ready to fall asleep. Apparently he had designs of his own on her and I had suspected as much, but I had a stronger pull so I let her make up her own mind.

Not a minute later she comes out of his room and slides into my bed, telling me has was making a move on her and she wasn’t happy. Suspicions confirmed. He came in, piss drunk, and I told him she wasn’t interested so he left. For the next hour we banged it out with my hand on her mouth to keep her quiet – wouldn’t want to wake the boyfriend in the adjacent room, although I doubt it was possible at that point. The next morning he was still out so I took her home, then he woke up and my roommate took him home. Roommate and I talked it over the next day, a ‘no hard feelings’ sort of chat. Competition is what it is. I wonder if the boyfriend knows what happened. Just one more reason why I don’t commit to exclusivity.
 

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Good stuff. Almost thought you were gonna settle for a Devil's threesome there lol. Hopefully your roommate doesn't become a recurring issue after you two had a talk. Definitely need to keep an eye out for jealous tendencies as you consistently bring females home and he is in his room watching porn and getting frustrated...

Keep the stories coming
 

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Nah he's fine. I'm careful choosing my roommates. Haven't had any major problems with any thus far. I screen them up front. No agreements and I tell them if they fvck up bad I'm changing the locks. We all do our own thing. I actually prefer not to go out with them much (and vice versa) for this reason - keep business and pleasure separate.

Will update this soon, #47 and #48 in the bag. Fvcking slvts, gotta love em!
 

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Girl #47 – HB 5 – The Last Time

No one is perfect. I feel a little dirty writing this but your humble narrator has, for the last time, indulged in a drunk lay below my preferred standards. Come on, raise your hand if you’ve done it. Don’t be shy. Particularly if it was handed to you on a silver platter. HB 5. 21 year old, a little higher with makeup, not in the best shape. Nice firm rack as to be expected from a girl in her prime but has a beer gut. Face is meh.

The whole thing played out unexpectedly. One of my more recent jobs is over half female (a good problem to have) and apparently I’ve been the topic of discussion for some time. It seems if you’re hot and not banging anyone there, you must be gay. I was in no hurry as I see the same girls every time and none of them jumped out at me. When you’ve been with enough 7s and 8s, 5s and 6s don’t catch your fancy and you become immune to their looks, which in turns drives them crazy. The higher you are able project this, combined with your own rise in value, the more hot women you’ll naturally attract.

One of the girls invited me out for drinks with some of her friends as work was wrapping up. I had another drink date lined up right before, but lately I’ve been staggering dates when possible in case one didn’t pan out. I rightly judged that date #1 wouldn’t be a same night lay, so I had some fun pre-gaming before meeting up with the next girl in line.

As it turned out, her ‘massive’ group of friends was two others. I’ve been suckered like this before. I actually wanted to play the crowd with no intention of getting laid, but I guess she had other plans. I would discuss comfort building, kino, and escalation specifics, but in this case it was completely unnecessary. Call it the ‘celebrity effect’ if you will. It appears I came pre-selected from all the gossip at work so all I had to do was show up, have a couple drinks, shoot some pool, and tell her to come back to my place for a drink after the bar closed down. I actually made it a point to avoid all kino. Initially I didn’t even want to get laid, but continuous alcohol consumption has a way of altering perception.

We got back to my place, I whipped up a couple drinks, and the rest is history. Fortunately she told me up front ‘no one knows about this at work, except my two best friends’. Meaning almost everyone knows. Maybe a few don’t. There are a couple attractive girls who make it a point to kino me whenever they get the chance (yes I’ve noticed), so I’ll play it cool and see what develops. Besides, the job is a stepping stone so I might as well plow through what I can.

So why did I go against my better judgement? Primarily alcohol. I have to remind myself to maintain a certain level of sobriety, even if the rest of the world doesn’t find out what happened in my room. When I questioned my willingness to write about it, I knew it was time to up the baseline. I will not drop below 6 again. I would commit to 7 and up, but the next lay took place only a couple days later, clocking in at 6.5. It’s going to be a struggle to turn down 6-7 girls, particularly due to the expediency of panty dropping, but it’s necessary for long term success.
 

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Girl #48 – HB 6.5

The beauty of 2012 is the variety of avenues which exist for your ***** plundering pleasure. If the tools are there, why not use them? POF is one of these. Although I stick to Facebook for ‘online game’, I do have a profile. I used it a fair amount a couple years back with enough success to warrant continuing, but then stopped as I ran into a string of 2-3 month relationships with girls I met in the real world. Curiosity eventually caught up and I made a new profile. Ugh. The place is now disgusting, at least in my area. ’100 women want to meet you’ and they’re all land whales. I can see how the few attractive ones, primarily there for attention, get swamped with messages. For that reason I typically don’t start conversations unless there’s some initial interest from the other end; it’s a waste of time.

I log in a couple times a week, check for messages, ‘meet me’, and any girls who viewed me. This particular woman, nearly a decade older but keeping it together thanks to a little enhancement, only viewed me. I shot her a one liner (the contents are irrelevant since POF is all about pics anyway) and got her Facebook a few messages later. This is my preferred method vs. phone number as I get to investigate in search of legitimacy and hopefully some bikini pics. Don’t want any surprises. A couple messages there before getting her number.

We then sporadically texted for a good 3 weeks, mainly trying to sync up schedules. She invited me out a few times to several events she was working (liquor promoter) which I declined. It’s one of those situations where she’s either going to meet at my place or no go. She’s attractive, don’t get me wrong, but I’m not big on the whole cougar thing in public. I could take it or leave it, which is a great mindset to adopt for all women. When she got the hint that I wouldn’t be going out of my way for her, she eventually found some time to come to my turf.

Very last minute and she told me ‘I can only stay for a little bit’. Translation: I’m here to **** so let’s not waste time. She showed up and I prepped a couple drinks after giving her a tour of my crib. HB 6.5. Cute, short, fairly thin, fake D’s. Still in party mode despite being later 30s. Blonde with dyed streaks and fun piercings. I sure know how to pick ‘em. She’d be closer to a 7 if you knocked off a few years, but then again I’m a little harsh.

I wanted to sit on my deck but it was raining, so we settled on the couch instead. Although it’s already in the bag if a girl comes to your place (or invites you to hers), particularly meeting for the first time, there’s still a little escalation that needs to take place. Call it extended foreplay if you will. Doesn’t have to be much; I only spent 15 minutes with her prior to heading to the bedroom.

As soon as we sat down I made it a point to be close to her and have our legs touching. It’s innocuous enough, but physical contact trumps all. I made sure to lead the conversation about her physical presence – the dyed hair (touch her hair), the earrings (touch her ears), the necklace (touch her boobs, oops!), followed by an overall discussion of physique. It’s a perfect topic since girls on the right half of the attractiveness curve are obsessed with their looks. Having been a personal trainer, I bring this up and they immediately become comfortable discussing their ‘problem areas’. Which of course leads to a physical examination thereof.

I don’t remember how I segued into taking her upstairs, but I believe it was her mentioning something to the tune of ‘well we can go upstairs’. I guess she was ready. The rest was easy peasy. After we finished she promptly dressed, smiled, and walked out. I haven’t heard from her since. See, not all women want commitment. It may be mutual masturbation, but I’ll take it.
 

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#49 is in the bag. 6.25 (thought about bumping to 6.5, but nah). Slowly but surely working up to never dipping below 7 again.

Full report here (not copying & pasting any longer due to content duplication reasons)

On a side note, fellow DJs used to have journals here. What happened? Is no one getting laid?
 

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muscleman said:
On a side note, fellow DJs used to have journals here. What happened? Is no one getting laid?
No... Not yet.

And your FB game is really risky imo, because who knows how she could ruin my social circle. She could go to one of my mutual friends and start saying that I'm a creep, and then I get approached on that and I start losing friends for women. Or are your FB friends just acquaintances?
 

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Fly By Night said:
No... Not yet.

And your FB game is really risky imo, because who knows how she could ruin my social circle. She could go to one of my mutual friends and start saying that I'm a creep, and then I get approached on that and I start losing friends for women. Or are your FB friends just acquaintances?
Not any more risky than any other game. It's all about how alpha/beta you are. If you're a cool dude, she won't say sh!t about you. Why would she say you're a creep if you've banged her? Most people I know are acquaintances. I float in and out of social circles. Men typically build larger, shallower social networks while women typically build smaller, deeper relationships. This is how societies formed and thrived.

I'm sure there's some behind the scenes checking out, and of course I don't win with all of them, but really I start conversations with 'hey what's up' and go from there, if they respond. If they don't, I leave it at that and never message them again ... but we're still 'friends' on FB and the door is open for them to come to me down the road (this has happened several times in the past).

Also, the beauty of moving between social circles is when the heat is too much in one, you can go to another and let it cool off. There was one loose group of about 30 girls where I ended up sleeping with 4 of them and word got around quick, so I was basically 'barred' from scoring with any more for a while - about a year. Then it cooled off and I'm back in action. Meanwhile I went to other social circles. It's a beautiful thing.

BeginningDJ said:
Pictures would do you FR justice
I need to keep it anonymous for a variety of reasons. Reason #1 - re-posting someone's picture without their permission is illegal under the given circumstances. This is why I use a number system.
 

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WayOfTheDragon said:
Could you please explain what you mean, a little, by this? Thanks.
I mean I check for some initial interest right away. Let's say I'm at a bar. In my peripheral vision I'll notice which girls are (repeatedly) checking me out so I'm not going in completely 'cold'. It's more of maximizing chances of success, as these girls are already mildly (highly?) interested.

It's the 'I noticed you noticing me' thing.

It's not required, just a personal preference of mine.

Anyway, #50 in the bag, later 30s milf, great body, fake tits, cute face, added me on FB (mutual friends), came over to my place (!!) for drinks. Report coming soon.
 

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JohnChops said:
fvcking steller work muscle man, how long did it take you to work up your game to this point?
I first discovered the community about 7 years ago, starting by reading strauss's 'the game'. I lurked here for a couple years before starting this journal and just kind of went on from there.

It's all in how much time and effort you put in though. It takes some men a lot longer, some a lot less. At a few points I was heavily invested in chasing tail, but the last few years I took a different approach and began aligning my jobs to meet women and get paid at the same time (and have fun as well). So I haven't been super active in getting laid, just kind of took them as they came or as I met them, without going out of my way too much.

I'm sure if you dedicated a lot of time to it, you could get better faster.
 
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