BeExcellent
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He referred to her as aloof. That's a simple way for me to make clear which woman I am referring to.I dunno @Be, I'm not understanding how being untruthful about how he feels resolves anything? Fact is james does care, he was bothered. Otherwise, this thread wouldn't exist.
As I said earlier he didn't have to say he was "mad" which I agree her wording was a bit juvenile and a bit extreme.
However instead of being dishonest and disingenuous by saying "no" and continue withdrawing giving her absolutely nothing to work with, why not be honest and tell her he was disappointed with the lack of consistency and he needs to rethink things? Or some variation thereof?
How would such a response from him give her validation?
Imo she made herself vulnerable by asking the question. Not because she sought validation. Not at that time anyway.
Chasing after him after he said no using her body and hot freaky sex to pull him might be viewed as her seeking validation but not asking the question hoping to inspire a conversation.
Just my sense, I'm not her so could be mistaken.
It's possible she may have been just as confused about his behavior as James was with hers.
She was a "plate" after all, a girl on his rotation. Which women can sense (I can anyway) and proceeding cautiously and prudently.
NOT saying I agree that how she behaved was right, it wasn't. Just providing a possible explanation for it.
In any event, I would assume she's not stupid and would know exactly what he was referring to.
Gauge her response. Talk about it.
If she ignores or turns it back on him in a vicious way or starts creating drama, politely end the conversation and continue withdrawing.
On their actual dates James said she was warm and engaging, it was only in between that had him confused.
I don't view this as her being "aloof" necessarily. Flakey and inconsistent yes, but not aloof.
Yet your advice is for him to act aloof? After she expressed at least some vulnerability by asking the question? And attempting to have a conversation about it versus denying her feelings, playing his game and withdrawing/fading out?
Again how does this resolve anything? Serious question. You have great insight but I am genuinely confused by your response here.
It all sounds very redpill to me, too redpill IMO. Quite manipulative actually.
Which talking to men (even on SS), they are now realizing how detrimental that can be. A play for power and control not to mention dishonest.
Versus honesty and genuineness while still maintaining a strong masculine frame and leading.
I think a simple No was the right answer to the 'are you mad' question because if he says anything else at all he's rewarding her childish behavior and I don't think that is a useful thing no matter what else he says. Do you explain to a child how you are bothered by the child's behavior? Not unless you wish the child to know how much power you have given them. The same applies here. And I'm not meaning a teachable parenting type moment. I'm talking about behavior the child (or person) already knows is bratty/annoying behavior. Never reward that.
Why on Earth should he reveal the amount of mental real estate she occupies? That gives her attention/validation. This is not his wife or girlfriend. If it were then additional comments might be warranted.
ANY additional response is (+) reinforcement of her childish behavior and will encourage more of the same.
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