Married Women, Single Women

[hithard]

The issues are that he has started so many threads in the past where he self righteously called out womankind for being cheaters, when HE was the one letting them in his life. .... .... And well, there's more to that, but I've already went into it all.

Well really one could argue this was one more nail to justify what he was saying. That women are indeed cheaters. Why would you wait around for the quality woman, when you just need to bust a nut on a quick fix? But I don't think that was the original point of the post.

While I don't think all women are purposely cheaters. I do believe a lot are easily swayed by emotionally thrill.

 

[STR8UP]

All of this STR8UP bashing is stupid. Look what he has given us all; A great thread to toss dialogue and different viewpoints. He's given us a forum for discussion.

I think everyone would rather read a dozen posts about whether or not it's ok for a 30 or 40 something dude to hook up with a 22 year old.

Man, this place has gone to sh!t

 

[edger]

You're just never going to give up defending your gender no matter what huh? You'll always be indignant if someone says anything negative about your gender, even more indignant than if they said something negative about you personally. Actually your whole mission here is to defend your gender. This is weird trait most females have.

I haven't read this thread, just a few posts, but I've always said(and I don't know whether Iqqi is doing it here or not, cause I haven't been reading her posts in this thread) that MOST women stick together even when they blatantly know their gender is wrong. This is something that men need to learn to do. That's the problem, we don't f*ckin' stick together like women do, and then we wonder why women are the way they are. I've alway's stressed this. We've(men) managed to f*ck each other in so many areas; one in particular being the legal system where women are catered to.

 

[ketostix]

I haven't read this thread, just a few posts, but I've always said(and I don't know whether Iqqi is doing it here or not, cause I haven't been reading her posts in this thread) that MOST women stick together even when they blatantly know their gender is wrong. This is something that men need to learn to do. That's the problem. We don't f*ckin' stick together like women do, and then we wonder why women are the way they are. I've alway's stressed this. We've(men) managed to f*ck each other in so many areas; one in particular being the legal system where women have all rights.

This is totally true, but I don't see this ever changing. Women see men sticking together as a huge threat, while they feel it's wonderful that they stick together. In str8up's story you had 2 married women and their single female friend all collaborating together basically.

 

[STR8UP]

I wouldn't mind hearing about your technique. Have you ever talked about that topic on here before? You should do it while iqqi sits on the sidelines throwing rocks lol.

I have. I don't think I started a post about it but I definitely responded to someone elses.

You know what a lot of it is? I get a bigger kick out of getting a woman off than getting myself off.

The way I see it, if I have to wear a freakin trash bag around my wang I'm not gonna get a whole lot of enjoyment out of it anyway, so I pay careful attention to what drives women crazy and put it to use.

If I am with a chick that I don't have to wear a jimmy hat she's gonna get a different kind of pleasure. I'm gonna rail the hell outa her to eventually get myself off. Either way it usually gets back to me through the grapevine that I have another satisfied customer

 

[edger]

This is totally true, but I don't see this ever changing

Yeah cause MOST men are the epitome of stupidity. You can't change stupid people. And AFCism is at the root of why most men go against each other instead of banding together.

Women see men sticking together as a huge threat

Tough sh*t. We do it for a good cause and to protect ourselves.

 

[STR8UP]

Tough sh*t. We do it for a good cause and to protect ourselves.

The double standard rears its head in many forms.

 

[STR8UP]

While I don't think all women are purposely cheaters. I do believe a lot are easily swayed by emotionally thrill.

Take away a woman's source of excitement, and you take away her entire life-force.

Women aren't like men. Men go into relationships to seek shelter from the storm, a place where we can take off our boots and get warm. As soon as we start to get comfy the woman starts to seek an emotional fix.

The worst thing a man can do is allow things to stagnate. If you find that your S.O. is getting bored you are better off screwing your secretary and letting the wife find out than allowing the relationship to stay on its predictable course.

Think about that. It's sad, but true.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

I haven't read this thread, just a few posts, but I've always said(and I don't know whether Iqqi is doing it here or not, cause I haven't been reading her posts in this thread) that MOST women stick together even when they blatantly know their gender is wrong. This is something that men need to learn to do. That's the problem, we don't f*ckin' stick together like women do, and then we wonder why women are the way they are. I've alway's stressed this. We've(men) managed to f*ck each other in so many areas; one in particular being the legal system where women are catered to.

There wasn't any post where Iqqi defended this cheating wife's actions. At no point the she defend the cheater because she was a woman. She didn't defend the wife at all.

I think the point that Iqqi and Latinoman and others made off the "true" point of this thread is STR8's ability to associate himself with people who he likes to complain about. The real question is, is does he see himself as one of them?

Me personally, I've come across people like he's describing and I had a choice to pursue many different types of relationships with these people. Granted a lot of them weren't wealthy or had what you would consider high status, but their bottom feeding attitudes were intact.

Yes, they were people who would, after making a mistake, say "it happens" and "what are you going to do? You're always going to hurt someone" just to make excuses for causing someone else in their life grief. Enough excuses. I know the world "is what it is" but why does this forum exist. It's to let others know that yes the world is what it is, but you can personally change and find like minded individuals like yourselves who want to go beyond "is what it is". What want to find out "what else IS there?" besides playing the same stupid events out over and over.

Well it's all about what STR8 what's when it comes down to it. Like someone else said, if he's able to look into a mirror and still likes what he sees after all of this then that's fine. *shrugs*

I and many others here couldn't. And if we made the same choices that were described in this topic I don't think we'd be too proud of it. We would make a conscious choice and say "Will this bring good to my life? Or will it bring trouble?"

If he's good with it, then end of discussion! Ya.

 

[hithard]

Take away a woman's source of excitement, and you take away her entire life-force.

Women aren't like men. Men go into relationships to seek shelter from the storm, a place where we can take off our boots and get warm. As soon as we start to get comfy the woman starts to seek an emotional fix.

The worst thing a man can do is allow things to stagnate. If you find that your S.O. is getting bored you are better off screwing your secretary and letting the wife find out than allowing the relationship to stay on its predictable course.

Think about that. It's sad, but true.

This is exactly how I have seen things unfold over and over and over. It’s so solid that it’s predictable in the majority of relationships

 

[guru1000]

The old cliche " If you stand for nothing, you fall for everything ."

Integrity is what seperates a MAN apart from the HERD.

Now all of a sudden "It's about getting laid" which I am totally in agreement with but in contrast to STR*UP's previous attitude.

If you are going to sit here and say to BANG another MAN"S WIFE is OK, then you need to do some introspection of what in life is important to you.

KARMA , I am most surprised by as this is a guy who I could see puts INTEGRITY before anything else on his list of being a better man.

What is more important,

Integrity or Money?

Integrity or Women?

Integrity or Family?

Integrity or Getting Laid?

What do you take to the GRAVE with you?


MEN keep their word because they have INTEGRITY.

MOST Women GENERALLY do not it. And here we have IQQI defending INTEGRITY.

IRONIC?

But if am running a tight ship and need SOLDIERS i could trust, who on this thread could I count on?

The old "MORAL POLICE" shame tactic is quite PATHETIC. What do you frown on MORALS?

Synonyms: ethical, good, right, honest, decent, proper, honorable, just, principled

Antonym: bad, black, iniquitous, peccant, reprobate, sinful, vicious, wicked, wrong, immoral

Let's take two guys on this site such as Interceptor and Victory, two men with INTEGRITY. We all know their take on this thread. Why? Because they have Integrity.

This is the Mature Man. Learn and Teach by example.

 

[iqqi]

1. I don't defend my gender, nor do most women stick together. What a hoot! Just goes to show how much you know about women.

I don't like ANYONE generalizing about ANYONE, whether it is race or gender. I find it extremely dangerous and unproductive to the end result.

2. LET US get to STR8UP's original post, because his point might be WORSE than where this thread has derailed to. I cannot wait....

SO for the past (I dunno) few months, YEAR+, STR8UP has been feeding us thread after thread after thread, sometimes TWO in one day, usually whining about the married women or committed women (that HE chooses to hang around) and how they CHEAT and how this makes him wary of all womankind (understatement), and how should just join them (can't believe I am the only one who saw where he was going with that.)

Thread after thread after thread, dealing with how immoral ALL women are, and how finding a quality woman is a MYTH. Myth means story that is NOT TRUE. As in there is no such thing, as a woman who does not cheat.

He has been shoving this crap down the MM forum throat over and over and over, and lets not forget aNOTHER common theme, where he percieves every chick wants him. Remember that? All of these AW's and manipulative b!tch married women, all WANT STR8UP. Don't forget that part.

-------------NOW------------------

We have a thread, in which STR8UP "joins" the other side, sleeps with the married woman....

And goes on to try and decry.... the single woman, who WON'T sleep with him... who doesn't want him!

To the point where he is going to start a thread called The Myth of the Single Woman?

WHAT A CROCK OF BS.

You could have done so and chose to contribute an opinion on the subject of single women who are unavailable and married women who cheat, but instead you do what you usually do which is jump off topic to stir up sh!t.

So now all married women cheat, AND single women are unavailable. Just because this one chick isn't interested in YOU. Poor STR8UP. That only left the married woman.

WHAT A CROCK OF BS -------------> But the forum members will make up their own mind about what they let you feed them.

 

[iqqi]

Let's take two guys on this site such as Interceptor and Victory, two men with INTEGRITY. We all know their take on this thread. Why? Because they have Integrity.

I was going to say something about noticing a few of the "major players" opting out of this thread.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

She even asked me if I knew she was married, right after we were done and she was telling me that we need to keep it quiet.

I did know, but only because my friend made a comment about it once or twice. It never once came out of her mouth.

The defense rests it's case.



Anyone care to change their entries on THIS thread now?:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=142772

 

[Latinoman]

I disagree that's like saying you should give the death penality to a petty shoplifter and a serial killer because they are both unethical.

Just for you information...I refuse to even acknowledge ridiculous comparisons. I am not debating about shoplifters and serial killers...I am debating about ethics. The Strawman arguments work with people with lower intelligence. So, please, do not try and insult mine.

I don't believe morals are are a total independent matter, that's anarchy.

Here you come again. I am not going to give you a social science or sociology course. I encourage you enroll in one if you need to understand what morals are.

I don't see anything wrong with a little "preaching" if what your preaching is sound and doesn't deteriate into judging or hypocrisy. Latinoman you've seemed to do a lot of preaching in this thread yourself lol.

I am not preaching. I am EXPOSING and EDUCATING.

I have phucked committed women before. At the time, I had no problems doing that. But I don't justify it either. I am exposing the original poster for "justifying" an unethical behavior. I don't care he is doing it...but I care he is "making excuses" or "justifying" it.

 

[hithard]

I have phucked committed women before. I have no problems doing that. But I don't justify it either. I am exposing the original poster for "justifying" an unethical behavior. I don't care he is doing it...but I care he is "making excuses" or "justifying" it.

I thought he just did not care.

 

[Latinoman]

You're saying that your morals permitted being unethical?

I get what you're saying. You see "Morals" as being completly independent per person so as to create their own set of ethics that can be at disagreement with the next person's moral code.

I am not saying "Morals" are being completly independent per person. Morals ARE in fact completely independent per person. That's a FACT. There are not such thing as "personal" ethics as ethics are established by society or professions.


In summary...

ETHICS are how society or profession define what's right and what is wrong.

MORALS is how you manage to live with yourself after your own behavior. This behavior might not go hand-on-hand with societal standards (ethics) or professional standards (ethics)...but you can still live with yourself and your decision. In fact, my morals might not go hand-on-hand with the behavior that my family taught me (values).

VALUES are passed down to you by your family and in many cases are religious in nature. It is how you manage to live with God (if you are religious) OR deal with your family after you did something that might challenge your religious beliefs (if you are very religious) or that might challenge what your parents taught you. Althought values (taught) should influence Morals (personal)...that's not always the case.


It is essencial that we as men understand the different about all three. Having a clear understanding of each can help us develop into a man of integrity.

Anyway,

I teach my children values...hoping that someday their own personal morals are shaped very closely to the values I taught them.

There was a movie in which put into test Ethics, Values, and Morals of the main character. That is the end of the movie "Gone Baby Gone".

 

[Latinoman]

I thought he just did not care.

If he didn't care, he wouldn't be justifying it. That's my point...people should not justify unethical behavior. If your morals are such that you can live with yourself after such behavior...then there is no need for justification.

Also...the history of threads created by OP clearly illustrates that it is an issue he cares about.

 

[MacAvoy]

If he didn't care, he wouldn't be justifying it. That's my point...people should not justify unethical behavior. If your morals are such that you can live with yourself after such behavior...then there is no need for justification.

Maybe I missed it but what difference does it make if he is justifying his behaviour?

 

[hithard]

The old cliche " If you stand for nothing, you fall for everything ."

Integrity is what seperates a MAN apart from the HERD.

But if am running a tight ship and need SOLDIERS i could trust, who on this thread could I count on?

The old "MORAL POLICE" shame tactic is quite PATHETIC. What do you frown on MORALS?



Let's take two guys on this site such as Interceptor and Victory, two men with INTEGRITY. We all know their take on this thread. Why? Because they have Integrity.

This is the Mature Man. Learn and Teach by example.

Such movie based ego values.

Should there be limits.... yes, those that you risk life and limb (family, friends) of course.Being good to a set pattern of someone elses values in the hope good things happen to you... huh? IMO integrity is very ego based (not always in a bad way , but also can be detrimental) its basically worrying about how people perceive you in a lot of instances ,not because of what it stands for.

Your integrity irl has probably been called into question a million times whether behind your back or openly.
Do you let it affect you to the extent you change your life?
In all honesty it still has a hold on me.
Ego is a dirty word it’s the one thing that can lead you to having lived a very unfulfilled life. Worrying about what other people say is a sure sign of it.

Ego also seems to attract everyone to str8up posts to change his values