Looks are more important than you think! Merged [Official thread]

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Pfft, and you call yourself a "looks matter" guy! You're way too reasonable for that. It's almost as if the looks-matter stance of "anyone who disagrees with me is ugly" is reversed. The uglier you are, the more you want to narrow down the competition, so you try to discourage other guys from getting into the field. Interesting, I never thought about it like that.

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And I'm sure you know lifting weights stunts your growth and makes you impotent, right? Everyone knows that.
 

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God_of_getting_layed said:
Lets face it people, skip is correct and you guys are in denial. :rock:

Your theory that looks dont matter much holds no water! :D

it fails to explain real life observations. Id call that not holding water, wouldnt you? I thought so.

Skip's theory successfully explains most if not all real life observations. Now I would call that a water holder, lol. :cheer:

When you take into account what it states:
-Women require a guy to be good looking or nothing will work, nothing except attempting rape.
-Women's tastes vary, (explaining why "ugly guys" manage to get a hot chick)
-Men are poor judges of a guys looks (explaining why many of the eyewitnesses of ugly guys with hot girls have no credibility.)

lets look at the evidence:
-we have seen guys who could be considered ugly or average with hot chicks, but women's variance in their tastes and the fact that men are poor judges account for these observations.
-What we have not seen are unambiguous, undeniable cases where the guy HAS to be seen as ugly to the girl hes banging. Cases where womens variance and mens poor judgement fail to explain. THese would be examples where theres some fatassed blob with a pizza face, big nose, big ears, hairy all over his body like a ****ing bear, short as fvck, and balding with a hot ***** where money or a calculated motive on the woman's behalf has been ruled out. These cases would give skips theory trouble. But the fact is, we have not observed these cases, so therefore skips theory correctly explains all observations. According to the theory, such cases should never exist, we dont observe them, so therefore skip has consistency my friends!

But when we look over at the "looks dont matter" theory, we should be seeing plenty of these cases. I mean, there has to be some ugly as ****, fatassed blobs with pizza faces and hairy bodies, short as ****, balding etc. undeniably ugly to anyone, but have game, and therefore would be getting chicks, becuase looks dont matter (they got game, and get chicks this way). We should be seeing some of these cases if the "looks dont matter" were true. But we dont! How is it possible for average or good looking guys to have good game, oh but ugly guys dont? Ugly guys are just as likely to have good game as a good looking one, so we should expect to see some fugly guys getting hot chicks do to their game. But we dont. THis seriously gives the "looks dont matter" theory trouble.

Also, we look at many hot women with boyfriends, pretty much all of them agree that their BF is good looking, even If us guys disagree. If you dont beleive me, I dare you to poll as many hot chicks you can who have BFs and ask them if they think there BF is good looking, THey will all say yes. If the "looks dont matter" theory were true, we would expect only a minority of these women to say yes since only a minority of guys are good looking, and the rest would say "no" since most guys are not good looking, and would have to have gotten these hot chicks using game. But since pretty much all hot chicks agree that their boyfriends are atleast cute, this really gives the "looks dont matter" theory serious trouble.

Okay, so lets look at the score here:
Observations are consistent with skips theory.
Observations fail with "looks dont matter" theory. :D

Give it up people. accept it, looks matter. women are just like men in this respect. You gotta be attractive in their eyes.
GOD - you have summed this up better than I ever could have.

Let me also add real quick, that in general, if you walk up to a girl, and she looks at you, and thinks you are not good looking enough for her, she will disqualify ANY chance u ever had of kissing, cuddling, sex, anything physical - its simple when u just think about it INSTEAD OF OVERANALYZING.

why the hell would YOU (lets say ur a ****in hottie of a man, a 9/10), why would YOU even give the time of day to a girl who is a 5/10 if she approached u and started "bustin game" on u (yes, girls bust game, just differently)

Same applies to girls........a girl who is a 9/10 who gets attention from the best looking man, she is USED TO great looking men around her - and seeing a guy who is a 4/10 walk up to her face will simply disgust her!!! if she is nice, she will talk to him andmaybe give him a pity #........but the fact still remains

A GIRL WILL NOT FVCK YOU OR DATE YOU UNLESS SHE FINDS YOU ATTRACTIVE PHYSICALLY - THIS IS THE ONLY THING NECESSARY AND ABOVE ALL ELSE........its also obvious that if the girl thinks a guy is fcuking sexy, and then he starts talkin about how he raped an animal before, then yes, the girl who thinks hes hot will run and run fast.....but my theory does not apply to total WEIRDOS who happen to be hot.

by the way, usually weirdos are ugly anyway......its a trickle down effect, that the ugliest guys also happen to be the most depressed, weirdest, wussiest, ect ect.

my theory stands. BIBLE this shyt
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
You're right. I'm not a very good judge. This is why I ask female friends and coworkers to gauge a man's looks. This is how I know that an ugly man is with a beautiful woman. Both of your hugeass posts are based on the assumption that I'm making my own judgments. Oops?

-Women require a guy to be good looking or nothing will work, nothing except attempting rape.

You're crazy. Personality and confidence are number 1, which is debatable. Fame, money, and cars will also work...which is not. Do you seriously think the only unattractive/average men that get chicks are rapists? Seriously, dude? Come on, you don't really believe that.

Ugly guys are just as likely to have good game as a good looking one, so we should expect to see some fugly guys getting hot chicks do to their game. But we dont.

Really? I do. Maybe you should get out more.

I dare you to poll as many hot chicks you can who have BFs and ask them if they think there BF is good looking, THey will all say yes.

I talked to a chick on Wednesday that said her boyfriend wasn't cute. When my girlfriend said, "He's kinda cute.", she said "No. Not really." There goes that.

Observations are consistent with skips theory.

Sure, maybe in his 'hood where looks matter. It's different here in California, and until both of you come out here...I'm the only one qualified to make judgements based on observations. And, there goes that.

Give it up people. accept it, looks matter. women are just like men in this respect. You gotta be attractive in their eyes.

Yeah, because all the PUA's are just so ridiculously good-looking. :crackup:

you make is sound like where u live is VERY materialistic aka its all about the $$ $$ $$ $$ $$..........trust me, ud rather have a girl fvck u cuz she thinks u are hot as opposed to a girl fvckign u because she digs ur gold.
 

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Every single girl that I have had sex with had 1 thing in common - they all at some point, whether b4 or after sex, gave me 1 or more keywords that signified that they thought i was VERY good looking to them (aka hot, sexy, handsome, gorgeous, really cute)..........oh, but guess what happened when i went on dates with girls who never told me im good looking?? NOTHING.

I had the same attitude on dozens of dates where i didnt get laid as the attitude i had with girls i DID fvck........and the KEY difference was, the girls that didnt end up liking me were the ones who DID NOT LIKE HOW I LOOKED

theres ur real life example to back up my theory further.....i mean this shyt actualyl happened to me! so im not talkin outta my ass here, im talkin from my own experience

qick summary:

Girls that thought I was good looking, i fvcked/dated
Girls that thought I was not good looking, no 2nd date, no kiss, no nothin
Girls that thought I was good looking ranged from hb4 - hb9.5
Girls that thought I was not good looking ranged from 2-10 (i actually had an ugly girl NOT like me)

same personality with everyone........so, looks arent THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING you say???

hahahahahahahahahahaha
 

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You don't say looks are the most important thing, you repeatedly claim that looks are ALL that matter.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Nighthawk said:
You don't say looks are the most important thing, you repeatedly claim that looks are ALL that matter.

yes, in the sense that if u have exceptional looks and NOTHING else, u will get all the pvssy u want

newsflash, a girl wants to be fvcked by a hot guy who turns her on.
Girls will not get turned on by ugliness, just as you wouldnt get turned on by a whale of a chick either. Anyway, read my above post, I think i summed everything up perfectly in that one
 

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skip2mylou781 said:
Every single girl that I have had sex with had 1 thing in common
Whats that the fact the were imaginary?

Sorry too easy to pass up
 

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Wow this thread is still going, you guyz are retarded...WHY? Because the reason of your argument is sucha DUH! thing.

DUH looks matter, whoever is arguing against that just stop and think logical its ok if your not good looking and due to that fact your gonna go in the corner and cut yourself becuase supposdly youll never get laid...--Which is BS--.

Look if your not born good looking that's no problem. Like many posts and ppl have said before you can always improve what you have. And become sexualy/physiclly attractive to a girl.

Become HANDSOME...it aint that hard...for example workout/ get a good sense of style/ smell good/ be well groomed/ take care of yourself/ know how to act....IM 100% sure any girl who sees a handsome guy will give him a shot.

So stop b!tching about what ever you guys keep posting over and over and over again. You keep saying the same sh!t in different ways.

As for Mike T....i feel sorry for your pathetic life that you envy all your "middle eastern friends" because while they're off talking about the success they have and the girls they boink...your on this site making little girly racist remarks about us persians :crackup: get a life bro, stop acting all smart and using stupid sh!t excuses to make yourself feel better.

Now plz be my guest and write a fvcking essay about me, including all your lame a$s comebacks. In fact i now feel even more sorry for you, becuase this whole thing started by you thinking i was "bragging" where everyone who knows me well on this forum knows my joke to skip was a tease and me bragging was a joke. Its ok though, some ppl are hella desprate for friends...so why not make them on a sauve board :crackup: douche

When it comes down to the end its Me > You.


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On top of that I'm a binge drinker, which leads to some questionable calls.
Am i the only person that found this funny... lol



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skip2mylou781 said:
GOD - you have summed this up better than I ever could have.


by the way, usually weirdos are ugly anyway......its a trickle down effect, that the ugliest guys also happen to be the most depressed, weirdest, wussiest, ect ect.

You are really an idiot you know that? In fact The Best looking people i know are lonely depressed individuals. So many models are recovering fckheads and cokeheads due to severe mental disorders. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. You and skip are overhyping this topic so you can prove yourselves goodlooking in your fckedup heads.

In reality, and anyone with any understanding of beauty would agree, that the pic skip put up (and then took down the same day) showed a pale, skinny white kid with a reasonable fashion sense and nice haircut. Seriously kid, noone could even see your face cause you had sunglasses on. Am i supposed to judge your style? That makes you pretty and beautiful? And i have a very hard time believing you fcked a 9.5. Maybe she was a 9.5 to you but in the real world she'd be no more then a 5. A 9.5 would be equivalent to MODEL material. you certainly did not fck no MODEL, you delusional idiot.
 

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Cod3r said:
Am i the only person that found this funny... lol



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Sh1t, dude. There have been a few mornings where I woke up not sure who's house I was in. Needless to say, the broads next to me were...let's just say I got the hell out of there.

Then again, it is our right as men to get blackout drunk off tequila and go out hoggin'. Live a little, baby.
 

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Why hate on skip ?? Seriously, get your own games together...

He can have is opinion, share yours... and lets all agree to disagree...

Seriously those of you most heated at skip are those probably that don't get laid, if you got laid you'd just chuckle to yourself at him being wrong and just delight in the fact you get girls however you get'em...

Seriously, relax... go have a shot of pinneapple henny (my drink tonite muaha)


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Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Being handsome is something that is given at birth. Can't "become handsome" without plastic surgery. What you're referring to is appearances, and the way a man carries himself. This is the reason that a homeless man picked off of the street, given an Armani suit, a shave, and a shower can pull any woman just as well as anybody else...provided his game is top-shelf.

Bro, i think becoming handsome is something everyone can pull off...because when you look at what ppl when they call you handsome it comes down to this : The elegance of your style, the way you carry yourself, your hygiene, and so forth...All things which ppl can work on. But i get the perspective your looking at.
 

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...again what makes a guy good looking. You idiots keep forgetting the fact of what girls look at when they decide your are good looking or not. In addition to, the definition says GOOD LOOKING, which does not include all those "hot/sexy/w.e" guys, ppl on this board keep raving about.

Back to my point, there are certain charecteristics in a man that make him attractive, such as the ones of stated before. Therefor everyone can become Handsome and good looking. Im sure no one on this board has a foot long nose, deformed lips and other unatural effects to their face.

Thus if you all put some effort into yourself, you can become good looking.
 

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I could careless of my grammar or spelling due to the fact that im on a forum...but if you want to play the role of my english teacher be my guest.

If you due research on plastic surgery...in the US the top surgeryz are Liposuction, implants, and face lifts.

But it seems like your implying that most of the guys in here who in your perspective are not good looking only can rely on plastic surgery.

Idk what part of cali you live, but me being from the OC where very very attractive ppl live, i personaly have seen my "girl-friends" get with guys who are not Hot..decent looking guys, but when you look at these guys you can sense a high class, outgoing, uptodate fashion typa dude.

Ill even put myself up as an example...my gf to me is a HB9 and over, yet me i c myself as an average looking dude who takes really good care of myself. I even have thinning hair, yet still i can easily get beautiful girls attracted to me.

But arguing with thick headed ppl isnt gonna get me anywhere, if you seriously need the surgery go for it :crackup:
 

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..again youve lost your mind and began your little unfunny lines. I said i c myself as an average due, sh!t in reality im prbly a fine stud to girls, but it offends some ppl on here when others "brag" about their looks.:rolleyes:

You seem to be hopping around on the tadpole...what are you even standing for anymore :confused:


In fact what ever it is...you win. Now you can sleep better at nite knowing youve "out-witted" someone on a suave forum :crackup:


cry me a river


:rock:
 

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I'm a tad buzzed... but before I leave... I suggest you get a life ^ ^

PS
Where's my picture at sexxxxy :muahzzz:


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