Looks are more important than you think! Merged [Official thread]

[skip2mylou781]

looks looks looks. dude thats all u ever post about, an im gettin sick of it. man, yo post dont do anything for guys lookin for advice except to tell them that is your ugly then u have no hope. now, i do get where ur comin from, women date guys who look good in there eyes. beauty is in the eye of the beholder afterall. but looks r not wat makes game! why the hell does this site even exist if all that matter is how pretty u r? instead of F*ckin techniques and ways to improve confidence, sosuave should jus tell us how to F8cking make ourselves look better, since thats all that matters. i have alot of experiences about girls who thought i was sexy, then i didnt talk to them or said something stupid, the BOOM! THEY didnt like me anymore. they didnt have to have me jus cuz i look good! they saw i was an idiot and were'nt turned on by me anyway. and ALL ur examples have one thing in common! SEX SEX SEX! Man, thats all u get isnt it. even ur long terms were full of Sh it abot how u banged her every f uckin time she saw u. SEX, THAT GOOD POONTANG, is the EASIEST thing to get. sex doesnt mean u have game, it jus means she is horney. if u wanna future wit a good, respectable girl, than u need way more than jus looks. u basically saying that couples split cuz somehow the man magically turned ugly! no, it's not cuz of problems getting along, people stay to together jus cuz they think the other is sexy( sarcasm). so jus top wit ur BULLSH IT POST ABOUT LOOKS! WHERE JUS A F UCKIN MANAQUIIN( how ever u spell it) I GUESS CUZ ALL U GOT IS LOOKS THAT DEFINE U.
FREAKIN MORON. STOP FILLING NOOB'S HEADS WITH LIES!

if your ugly, then there IS hope - its called work on improving your looks.

to everyone else - i notice how u guys are disagreeing with me and then adding to the fact that ur not good looking.........i see the trend of self denial

you HAVE to work on LOOKS FIRST, GAME SECOND

 

[LJC]

The funny thing about ongoing threads like this one is that, in general, everyone is right and everyone is wrong.

Attraction is always circumstancial, in that whatever criteria a woman uses to conclude if a man is attractive or not depends entirely on what information is available and what information is needed.

From afar, looks are the initial and sometimes only factor in a woman's decision process. So if you see a woman from accross the room, smile, and she avoids you like the plague, then sure, you more than likely failed probibly based on looks alone.

However, if you're sitting down having a drink with a woman then confidence, posture, personality and looks will take the stage as information most readily available in her decision process.

If you manage to get that woman to tag along as an observer in your life through social settings then status, confidence, posture, personality and looks begin to blend into her decision process.

Above and beyond all of this, a particular situation a woman is in when she is weighing this information matters as well. If you're trying to do this in a night club with 10 of her friends watching, then it is more likely that she will make a decision based on less information. Isolate her, and you have a better chance.

The bottom line here is that the faster and better you are at getting a woman to come out of her shell, drop her ***** shield and take a panoramic look at your life, the more you can diminish the odds that one quality will be the say all in her decision process. If you can manage to make a dynamic presentation like that as a first impression, you are then a PUA and not just some lucky bastud cruising on good looks.

This is why we talk about social proof, isolation, confidence, et cetera.

 

[DJ_in_making]

you HAVE to work on LOOKS FIRST, GAME SECOND

I thought you said game doesn't matter at all?

 

[So Many Ways]

i have alot of experiences about girls who thought i was sexy, then i didnt talk to them or said something stupid, the BOOM! THEY didnt like me anymore.

Exactly. The same thing has happened to me tons of times. I chick jocks me for whatever reason, they like how I look or whatever, then I screw up somewhere along the way and it doesn't happen. I've literally had the chick naked in front of me but said something stupid and the chick runs out the room.

Likewise there are those times when you're literally walking on water and you can do no wrong. Then there are girls that ignore you completely then see that you're cool or have some sort of status and then start to jock.

This post is full of much misinformation and can be dangerous for newcomers.

 

[Embrace]

In response to your title, skip:

If a guy is attractive, there is little he can do wrong. If he is unattractive there is little he can do right.

I believe this to be 100% true.

Looks get you in easier in the beggening but if you dont have the right personality that women want you WILL get dumped.

However if youre looking for a ONS, looks matter way more than if you were trying to get a relationship.

I dont have the time to read through this whole damn thread, its too long so I dont know if this has been covered or not.

Do you agree though?

 

[belividere]

How about next time you want to post a thread you stop and do a search on the topic first. Here are just a few of the exact same threads that have been started within the last few months. Why not just bump on of these up?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111783&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=107013&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=106329&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=98190&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96846&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97118&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=94946&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=108828

Hopeful your next thread will be about how we should be learning our game from homeless guys. Oh wait you already did that.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102679&highlight=homeless

Now that I put two and two together it all makes sense. When your competing with homeless guys your looks are what really put you ahead.


How are you not banned?

 

[skip2mylou781]

In response to your title, skip:



I believe this to be 100% true.

Looks get you in easier in the beggening but if you dont have the right personality that women want you WILL get dumped.

However if youre looking for a ONS, looks matter way more than if you were trying to get a relationship.

I dont have the time to read through this whole damn thread, its too long so I dont know if this has been covered or not.

Do you agree though?

I agree with you yes.........I like that quote alot

oh, for the other guy who said something about misinformation here, where is the misinformation??? that a hot girl prefers a really hot guy over an average guy???

I AM YOUR LIVING BREATHING ****ING EXAMPLE!!!

Me getting better looking overtime has naturally developed my game as well.......so in a way, with good looks, game will follow.

you cannot just ****in sit there reading techniques and THINKING that u are getting better at the game if ur still ugly!!! ur techniques and tricks are USELESS unless u have the looks to back them up!!!

GO IMPROVE URSELF IF UR NOT 100% HAPPY WITH YOUR OWN LOOKS, JUST LIKE I DID

 

[skip2mylou781]

How about next time you want to post a thread you stop and do a search on the topic first. Here are just a few of the exact same threads that have been started within the last few months. Why not just bump on of these up?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111783&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=107013&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=106329&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=98190&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96846&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97118&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=94946&highlight=matter
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=108828

Hopeful your next thread will be about how we should be learning our game from homeless guys. Oh wait you already did that.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102679&highlight=homeless

Now that I put two and two together it all makes sense. When your competing with homeless guys your looks are what really put you ahead.


How are you not banned?

im glad u pointed out those threads.....THIS thread is the thread to end them all, thats why i made it. I am getting to the cold hard truth here - you NEED looks more than u NEED anything else.

As for the homeless people thing, that was 1 of my motivational threads when it comes to cold approaching, i do those kinda threads too.

I am not banned because the mods know what im talkin about and they arent little AFCs like some others here

 

[belividere]

THIS thread is the thread to end them all, thats why i made it.

I gotta say that I'm pretty impressed with your level of e-confidence

 

[BigOlePappy]

This topic fails

 

[BigOlePappy]

This topic fails

Where nice clothes, carry yourself in an Alpha Male way.

I've seen many guys with angelic faces or huge pecs and biceps never get laid.

I've seen just as many guys with ugly faces plow through pvssy.

 

[Tazman]

Looks matter yes, your appearance "almost" predetermines what good (and bad) things may happen to you in life. Women will definitely be more receptive, no question. However, keep in mind that your success with any particular woman depends on what options she believes she has and how you measure up. Your looks might be enough, and they might not.

In fact, men AND women do this. We want the best we feel we deserve, you might settle for a more average looking chick because she loves having sex with you (more receptive to you) and isn't as much of a pain in the ass as a more attractive chick who thinks she's God's gift to mankind.

 

[Production6257]

http://www.buddypic.com/profile.php?username=skip2mylou

the man. the myth. the legend.

 

[Mr. Unique]

skip2mylou, I wanna see what you're girlfriends look like. post some pics dude.

 

[Raikojo17]

im glad u pointed out those threads.....THIS thread is the thread to end them all, thats why i made it. I am getting to the cold hard truth here - you NEED looks more than u NEED anything else.

As for the homeless people thing, that was 1 of my motivational threads when it comes to cold approaching, i do those kinda threads too.

I am not banned because the mods know what im talkin about and they arent little AFCs like some others here

so why not change the name of this site to sogoodlooking.net, if looks kill everything else?

 

[DJ_in_making]

skip, why did you come to sosuave in the first place then?

 

[\O/]

I agree that looks matter. It will get you laid even with little game. An average looking guy with tight game however WILL pull more hotties than a better looking guy without game. That is a FACT and if you don't agree with that, then you are not out there in the field observing social situations like you say you are.

You are saying that you on occasion crash and burn with the girls you meet, and you soley blame it on the fact that they didn't find you attractive enough. That is bs. From the pic above, I'd say you look slightly above average, so you should still be able to game them into finding you more attractive. It will hurt your game if you don't consider other alternative explainations as to why they weren't attracted to you. You don't seem like the most secure and confident guy, as you yourself wrote in the original post. You acted needy, supplicative and insecure. Still you got laid. If you would fix that you would get laid even more =)

Your problem is that you think girls think the same way we do. Looks ARE important to them, it's just not a dealbreaker. You can make a girl FEEL attracted to you even though she might not find you very hot with first sight. Posture, attitude, behaviour, status, social skills/proof will all play a part in her finding you attractive. Not looks alone.

Thing is though, that the stuff girls find most attractive like confidence, alphabehavior, flirting skills etc are mostly found in good looking guys. Their innergame is often times tight, because they have no reason to be insecure or feel inferior to women like most average or belowaverage-looking guys do. Sure, an average guy with strong innergame and amazing confidence will get laid like a superstar. Problem is there are so very very few of them.

I'm a fairly goodlooking guy and I can attract girls without spitting much game. I can't soley rely on looks just because of that. Because girls who will only date me because of the way i look are uninteresting for me. They are not someone I can see myself together with in a LTR. Sure, I would have sex with them, but it comes to a certain point when you want more than just random sex with brainless hot chicks.

I'm also curious btw, as to what an HB9.5 looks to you. Personally, I've never seen an HB9.5 in my entire life, but maybe we just have different standards. No pun intended..

 

[SoCalMike]

hahah your post cracked me up skip. but you're right man, looks are #1. it's simple biology - we all go for the best genes that our genes will allow us to get.

all this david deangelo/seduction stuff works only if you've got looks to back up your game.

but if you REALLY want to expand your potential of hot girls, then look the best you can AND get into something social like music (bands/DJ'ing), art, dance, etc. for example, i'm a decent looking guy (nice face, good build) but i'm short. i have always been able to get cute girls but was never a "laides man". but when i started DJ'ing the pool of potential poontang EXPLODED about 10fold. my popularity with the ladies grew out of control, i literally had to tell hot girls to buzz off b/c i was already dating one just as hot or hotter. and 90% of these girls would never have give a sh*t about me were it not for my status.

 

[Cod3r]

Are men limited by looks ?

I know this has been asked, but in my reality I've never seen anyone without natural game and great looks, game a female that is very far away from their looks level...

If you are a DJ and have fvcked and/or had a woman as your gf or wife that is completely above your looks level, please post pictures to dismiss this myth in my head. I am seriously just looking for proof of this, because recently every time I look guys and girls who are together are pretty much within the same general looks area (excluding things like crazy reputation, money, fame)

I even found a few videos of the great Mystery who is below average in looks IMO and the girls I seen him game or with are pretty sub-par also. I only seen a couple girls of his that were even HB8's IMO. Also, no girl of his that I seen would I ever ask myself, "How in the hell did he get that girl??" they both looked about right, were the same looks level....

Now I will admit Styles GF right now is an HB9 in my book and IMO he's a pretty wierd looking guy, but I can't put aside the fact that he has status and a sort of fame and money... not sure when he met her btw, but you get my point... Are these guys fvcking models or getting anything besides just normal average girls ?? Is anyone on here fvcking extreme hotties ??

Post pictures if you are and have them... please



-Cod3r

 

[Jack McCrack]

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