Looks are more important than you think! Merged [Official thread]

[Scrumtulescence]

no they dont.

You're a delusional moron with no connection to reality. I'll ask you once more, so please.......STOP. THE. POSTING.

 

[skip2mylou781]

i cant believe this frustrated naiveness when it comes to looks.....when uve improved in looks in the years like i had, and u notice a direct correlation to that and how many girls u date/****, then u also will realize what I am talking about with all this looks talk.

If you want to be average and not pull any ass, then you are just part of the definition of the term AFC (AVERAGE frustrated chump)

AVERAGE - stays average, doesnt bother to look his best or develop the best personality traits

FRUSTRATED - doesnt get azz because he makes stupid-azz retarted mistakes when it comes to women

CHUMP - a guy who is not sexual and tries to be nice to the point of supplicating and kissing azz THINKING it will get him laid.

AFC

 

[~attrACTION~]

Another good thing about being hot is that if you get rejected you wont go home and cry about being ugly.

You know your hot right? So rejection doesn't hurt.. and if she rejects you just shout in her face "I'm an HB10 you sl**!!"

Haha, I admire your confidence...I really need to be more like that.

That's my problem right there, I have to KNOW I'm hot. I know it, but I don't realize how important it is, and how much it can override other factors. I mean, I definitely can tell that being attractive makes life easier in plenty of ways...like going to class late and the teacher not saying anything, getting free coffee on occasion, etc. But, my damn mentality is that it was just luck...actually, I believe I'm a "very lucky person" moreso than a very attractive person.

Good post, skip2mylou.

 

[Scrumtulescence]

Another good thing about being hot is that if you get rejected you wont go home and cry about being ugly.

You know your hot right? So rejection doesn't hurt.. and if she rejects you just shout in her face "I'm an HB10 you sl**!!"



sometimes I scare myself..

That's not necessarily true. If you were rejected, it was for a reason. And if it wasn't your looks, you're going to blame it on something more related to personality or character.

 

[~attrACTION~]

Looks are the only thing that matters when dealing with women who are shallow and base their existance on what's superficial. Anyone who chooses to sarge these women should pe prepared constantly compare themselves to other guys to see how they stand up since these women are doing this themselves. Once they find someone more attractive, there's a good chance that they will move on since things like personality has less interest to them.

I agree with this too. It seems the girls that come to me are the really prissy blonde chicks who wear the short skirts and stuff to get noticed...the more average/plain looking girls who boast enthusiastic personalities are not so attracted to me, which is probably because my personality is akin to a brick wall at the moment.

 

[skip2mylou781]

ATTRACTION - those blondes with the short skirts are the kind of girls EVERY guy would love to end up fvcking

who wants average plain looking girls????

 

[DJ_in_making]

Skip...

You know why I wanna flame you so bad right now my man?

I thought u were one of the advanced ones on this site. You complained about people not considering your examples, yet some guys have brought up really good points and you are not considering them in the least.

Here's why I find this post ridiculously absurd.... and I should be writing a paper right now, not answering such a silly thread.

1 You said a HB will 99.9% (don't know how you got that statistic) reject a guy if he isn't attractive. Look at Style, he is not attractive at all and he's one of the top PUA's, what about Mystery? Gunwitch? And don't give me that crap about girls find guys attractive that we find ugly. UGLY is UGLY. I find Flavor Flav ugly, a HB9 will find Flav ugly PERIOD!!! attractiveness is universal for the most part

2 From what you're saying there is no such thing as good game, there are simply guys who have looks and get girls and guys who don't have looks and don't get girls. So even if they are as smooth as Casa-f*ckin-nova or Hitch they 99.9 out of 100 chicks will reject them?

3 You said girls are attracted so damn much by looks. Well look at Dennis Rodman, Tommy Lee all these bastards with girls who don't have looks (and most girls will agree). And before you think it, its not the damn MONEY! The chicks they've been with have money too.

4 Girls are attracted by looks, status, social skills, confidence, wealth/success in no particular order! Meaning if you take an ugly bum off the street and make him an international rock star, chicks will wanna bang him, not b/c he's cute but b/c he has STATUS and that's attractive!!

seriously... I think you're making this statement based off of girls reactions on MYSPACE. Yea they may judge you on your looks there, but only because they are unable to judge you under any other criteria.

 

[Scrumtulescence]

ATTRACTION - those blondes with the short skirts are the kind of girls EVERY guy would love to end up fvcking

who wants average plain looking girls????

There are different 'looks', different kinds of hot. Not every attractive blonde girl who wears a skirt is the kind of girl he's describing. Some guys dig the skanky sorority-slut bleached blonde, spray tan look on a girl, I f*cking hate it. There are other looks that I'm I'm far more sexually attracted to. For the last time, stop speaking for other people, dumbass.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

You know why I wanna flame you so bad right now my man?

I thought u were one of the advanced ones on this site. You complained about people not considering your examples, yet some guys have brought up really good points and you are not considering them in the least.

Here's why I find this post ridiculously absurd.... and I should be writing a paper right now, not answering such a silly thread.

1 You said a HB will 99.9% (don't know how you got that statistic) reject a guy if he isn't attractive. Look at Style, he is not attractive at all and he's one of the top PUA's, what about Mystery? Gunwitch? And don't give me that crap about girls find guys attractive that we find ugly. UGLY is UGLY. I find Flavor Flav ugly, a HB9 will find Flav ugly PERIOD!!! attractiveness is universal for the most part

2 From what you're saying there is no such thing as good game, there are simply guys who have looks and get girls and guys who don't have looks and don't get girls. So even if they are as smooth as Casa-f*ckin-nova or Hitch they 99.9 out of 100 chicks will reject them?

3 You said girls are attracted so damn much by looks. Well look at Dennis Rodman, Tommy Lee all these bastards with girls who don't have looks (and most girls will agree). And before you think it, its not the damn MONEY! The chicks they've been with have money too.

4 Girls are attracted by looks, status, social skills, confidence, wealth/success in no particular order! Meaning if you take an ugly bum off the street and make him an international rock star, chicks will wanna bang him, not b/c he's cute but b/c he has STATUS and that's attractive!!

seriously... I think you're making this statement based off of girls reactions on MYSPACE. Yea they may judge you on your looks there, but only because they are unable to judge you under any other criteria.

Seems like someone has taken the "red pill."

 

[Raikojo17]

more excuses doods. jus cuz u dont got game u go to thinkin that looks matter and that ur ugly so u'll never get a chick. tru, looks can matter, but they r not the whole thing. how many of u have hooked up wit a girl who was sexy as sh*t, only to find out she was a complete B!tch and stopped liking her? did u keep chasin her jus cuz she looked good?....................didnt think so. "all u looks r the end all be all" guys r jus looking at it from a man's point, where looks could make or break a relationship.
now stop whining

 

[The-Sultan]

Post this where the real puas are, masf. Better replies there.

 

[skip2mylou781]

You know why I wanna flame you so bad right now my man?

I thought u were one of the advanced ones on this site. You complained about people not considering your examples, yet some guys have brought up really good points and you are not considering them in the least.

Here's why I find this post ridiculously absurd.... and I should be writing a paper right now, not answering such a silly thread.

1 You said a HB will 99.9% (don't know how you got that statistic) reject a guy if he isn't attractive. Look at Style, he is not attractive at all and he's one of the top PUA's, what about Mystery? Gunwitch? And don't give me that crap about girls find guys attractive that we find ugly. UGLY is UGLY. I find Flavor Flav ugly, a HB9 will find Flav ugly PERIOD!!! attractiveness is universal for the most part

2 From what you're saying there is no such thing as good game, there are simply guys who have looks and get girls and guys who don't have looks and don't get girls. So even if they are as smooth as Casa-f*ckin-nova or Hitch they 99.9 out of 100 chicks will reject them?

3 You said girls are attracted so damn much by looks. Well look at Dennis Rodman, Tommy Lee all these bastards with girls who don't have looks (and most girls will agree). And before you think it, its not the damn MONEY! The chicks they've been with have money too.

4 Girls are attracted by looks, status, social skills, confidence, wealth/success in no particular order! Meaning if you take an ugly bum off the street and make him an international rock star, chicks will wanna bang him, not b/c he's cute but b/c he has STATUS and that's attractive!!

seriously... I think you're making this statement based off of girls reactions on MYSPACE. Yea they may judge you on your looks there, but only because they are unable to judge you under any other criteria.

celebrities are celebrities - stop using them as examples

flavaflav gets the pvssy cuz of his same, and same goes for ur other examples

if those guys had no fame, they would not b able to get girls cuz they ARE ugly indeed. Also, Dennis Rodman is a different kind of hot in certain girls eyes, cuz to girls tattooes and peircings are considered VERY hot sometime, so yes, he is HOT to the girls that he gets.

girls judge u initially and all the time SOLELY on ur looks when it comes to kissign u, fvcking u, and doing anything sexual with u (unless they are doing it for the fame or money)

 

[tr0ublemaker]

no they dont. Whenever a guy picks up a girl, it is due to simply 2 things:

1) SHE thinks that he is attractive enough FOR HER
2) he doesnt totally mess up and sound like Luke Skywalker

i kid u not, no matter how much game you have, the girl will disqualify u from any future contact (even if she gives u her #) if u dont meet her needs for looks........and HOT girls NEED a guy who is HOT too (what their definition of hot is a different story)

I know personally hot girls (hb9+) that find the following things very attractive about a guy's looks:

eyes
soft hair
a little fat mixed with some bulk
super skinny and tall
super muscular
tan
6 pacs
very nice smile
pearly white teeth
blowout (its a hair style)
shaved head
big big arms
big chest

as you can all see, some of these things YOU MEN would not look at a guy and say they are hot qualities - but i have come across girls who were crazy smokin hot in my lifetime who thought each of those qualities makes a man HOT IN THEIR EYES.

that is why, if a guy is slightly fat, short, not muscular at all, BUT he has a great smile, nice eyes, and wears his hair in a blowout (italian gotti style), then believe it, there will be hb9s and 10s who flat out think hes the sexiest thing alive!........while YOU chumps look at him and try to use him as an example that looks dont matter because to YOU (and u are all straight so this makes sense) he is more like a 4/10

you've got to be the most stupid person on this site, most extraordinarily misinformed person on this site, or the girls you deal with are dafter than toliet paper

all bodybuilders with "big big arms" don't have women cutting in line for them..so many women find bodybuilders physically repulsive it's not even funny..and many women magazine polls back this up

and when you care about nothing but looks (which im getting you do), you do so at the expense of developing any character (i hope you have some and im getting the wrong idea about you)..

but ya anyway, threads like this result in nothing and totally shifts the focus of what this board is really about

 

[skip2mylou781]

Haha, SPOT ON!

I think most, if not all, of skip's posts and "advice" is coming from his experience of MYSPACE, and not from real world observations and interactions.
And oh please, do you seriously expect us to believe that you lay hb8 and 9s ON A CONSTANT BASIS?? you must be one delusional and distorted fella.

I actually thought you knew your stuff before, heck I even took your advice on how to "sarge" on sites like MYSPACE, but that was a while ago and I'm sixteen. You're 21, GET OUT IN THE REAL WORLD DAMNIT! I have a reason for not going to bars, clubs, stay out late etc, what is yours????

OMG how stupid can u be???? all the girls i talk about on myspace, I MEET THEM IN REAL LIFE - and yes they sometimes totally think im ugly and i never see them again, or they think im really hot and we end up either ****ing or dating..........yes, i base my theory partly on meeting girls in REAL LIFe and having REAL LIFE interactions with them - myspace is just the way ive been using to meet girls lately - and the last 2 girls ive fvcked have both been from myspace and possibly 2 of the 3 best looking girls i ever been with in my life (hb9 and hb9.5)

 

[skip2mylou781]

Post this where the real puas are, masf. Better replies there.

elaborate.......are u saying u agree with me?

 

[skip2mylou781]

you've got to be the most stupid person on this site, most extraordinarily misinformed person on this site, or the girls you deal with are dafter than toliet paper

all bodybuilders with "big big arms" don't have women cutting in line for them..so many women find bodybuilders physically repulsive it's not even funny..and many women magazine polls back this up

and when you care about nothing but looks (which im getting you do), you do so at the expense of developing any character (i hope you have some and im getting the wrong idea about you)..

but ya anyway, threads like this result in nothing and totally shifts the focus of what this board is really about

IDIOT, SOME women love the more muscle the better - they also happen to be some of the hottest women that u jerk off to b4 u go to sleep.......and i already explained VERY well that different women think different things are hot

so one hb10 might think a skinny guy with tattooes and peircings is a 10 in her book, while all u guys think hes a 4

also, an hb10 might think a 5'9 230 (lotsa muscle) whos tan and got a blowout italian style is VERY HOT

girls see differnt kinds of hotness, so my point still stands:

YOUR LOOKS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF EVER GETTING GIRLS

btw, ever heard of the girl who tells all her friends "omg my bf is soooooooo hot"

Almost every girl does that, u kno why??? CUZ THEY DATE GUYS WHO ARE HOT IN THEIR EYES

fools

 

[Raikojo17]

IDIOT, SOME women love the more muscle the better - they also happen to be some of the hottest women that u jerk off to b4 u go to sleep.......and i already explained VERY well that different women think different things are hot

so one hb10 might think a skinny guy with tattooes and peircings is a 10 in her book, while all u guys think hes a 4

also, an hb10 might think a 5'9 230 (lotsa muscle) whos tan and got a blowout italian style is VERY HOT

girls see differnt kinds of hotness, so my point still stands:

YOUR LOOKS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF EVER GETTING GIRLS

btw, ever heard of the girl who tells all her friends "omg my bf is soooooooo hot"

Almost every girl does that, u kno why??? CUZ THEY DATE GUYS WHO ARE HOT IN THEIR EYES

fools

looks looks looks. dude thats all u ever post about, an im gettin sick of it. man, yo post dont do anything for guys lookin for advice except to tell them that is your ugly then u have no hope. now, i do get where ur comin from, women date guys who look good in there eyes. beauty is in the eye of the beholder afterall. but looks r not wat makes game! why the hell does this site even exist if all that matter is how pretty u r? instead of F*ckin techniques and ways to improve confidence, sosuave should jus tell us how to F8cking make ourselves look better, since thats all that matters. i have alot of experiences about girls who thought i was sexy, then i didnt talk to them or said something stupid, the BOOM! THEY didnt like me anymore. they didnt have to have me jus cuz i look good! they saw i was an idiot and were'nt turned on by me anyway. and ALL ur examples have one thing in common! SEX SEX SEX! Man, thats all u get isnt it. even ur long terms were full of Sh it abot how u banged her every f uckin time she saw u. SEX, THAT GOOD POONTANG, is the EASIEST thing to get. sex doesnt mean u have game, it jus means she is horney. if u wanna future wit a good, respectable girl, than u need way more than jus looks. u basically saying that couples split cuz somehow the man magically turned ugly! no, it's not cuz of problems getting along, people stay to together jus cuz they think the other is sexy( sarcasm). so jus top wit ur BULLSH IT POST ABOUT LOOKS! WHERE JUS A F UCKIN MANAQUIIN( how ever u spell it) I GUESS CUZ ALL U GOT IS LOOKS THAT DEFINE U.
FREAKIN MORON. STOP FILLING NOOB'S HEADS WITH LIES!

 

[Scrumtulescence]

You're retarded enough to think that what a woman will be attracted to will be determined by how she looks? You're getting dumber and dumber by the minute. Keep it up and you'll eventually be lying on the floor drooling and crapping your pants. But no worries, I'm sure there's some woman out there who's into that.

 

[Muzzlehatch]

Disregarding your more obvious contradictions regarding facts as opposed to theories, you're taking no account of the basic biological urges of women. We are all, men or women, simply biological machines. The primary function of our existence is to ensure the survival of our genes and therefore species. Because of this, male and female humans have different requirements in a mate. For the female, this means two things;

1) She looks for a mate able to protect her and her offspring. This is where the 'Good Looks' comes in. She wants the athletic, muscular type of guy because he is most likely to be a good hunter and fighter. A nice tight butt to give that good hard thrust when mating, so more likely to impregnate her. Clean skin signifying lack of disease. All these things are the subconcious triggers that still work the same on high power Wall Street women today as they did on Raquel Welch in her cave in 1 Million Years BC. (Ah, she did look good in that...)
That's the bit that supports your argument. The bit that doesn't is this:

2) She looks for a mate that is going to stay around to provide that support. Human female gestation period alone is nine months, and human offspring are pretty much helpless for the first five years of their lives. That's why women are very choosy, and why looks alone won't cut it. She wants a man that she feels is a good enough bet in the personality department to keep an interest in the investment of his sperm. This is what we've labelled as 'Love', and is nature's little trick to achieve this bonding. Here, women use all their superior behavioural observation skills to pick men who show the most attraction with her. For us, this means dialogue, humour, tenderness etc etc. And this is the part that the seduction community is learning to manipulate. (Clever buggers, aren't we?)

Seems I've come over all David Attenborough tonight. Of course, all the above is just a theory, not fact. As you probably worked out.
Makes sense to me though.

(not only am I ugly as sin, I mean really, really repulsively so foul and ugly I have to go around with a bag over my head, but British too...is there no hope for me, Skip...?)

 

[Grimple]

I'd have to disagree. I'm living proof the "not-so-attractive" guys can girl the hott girls too. Looks aren't exactly everything.