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straight guys arent exactly concerned with #2 and #3.....so they automatically assume a guy is ugly or average just cuz his body isnt all built or his face looks busted....looks matter to girls the MOST (and keep in mind when it comes to sex, girls want #2 and #3 alot)
 

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MysteryWoman can you please tell these retards that girls don't like muscles and guys being built.
 

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cheers mysterywoman, what you just did has another name: "Stating the bleeding obvious"
 

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bvbidd?? are u crazy? girls dont like TOO much muscle, but girls LOVE a guy with a good build and decent muscles....the better body the girl has,t he better body she wants her guy to have
 

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This post is basically saying people are NATURALLY shallow and looks DO matter. Those that say otherwise are the ones going against nature.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Bvbidd said:
MysteryWoman can you please tell these retards that girls don't like muscles and guys being built.
Right the ugly ones don't, because they don't have the slightest chance of scoring with such a guy... so it's better to say "i don't like muscles" than "i wish i could get a guy with a nice body, but i can't".

As far as looks go, this is a pointless topic because looks are something you can control!

One of the most amusing things i've ever witnessed must have been that 300 pound woman complaining how men are shallow while stuffing her face with fried chicken.

It was almost as funny as the totally AFC fat guy with a quadruple chin crying cause women just don't like him for some reason.

Good build, good hair, good dressing style, good tan, generally good health.... = good looking.

If you are the type that after all those criteria are met have more such as facial shape or whatever then you are fvcking shallow as hell and i wish you the best of luck finding something to fvck...
 

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this is gonna be a quickie:

STOP TALKING ABOUT LOOKS.

whether u think looks are important or not does not matter. It wont do anything for you. Focus on what you have got.

By the way, Looks matter HUGE. Initially anyway, and the initial spark is very powerful as it is hard to erase first impressions sometimes.

I agree with the original poster. If you are not good looking, or at least not in a range that she is in, she wants something from you.

whether she is insecure and wants to boss u, maybe she wants money, maybe she feels like a loser and wants to temporarily feel good about her self. Something, other than true love and attraction. she might not have the confidence and not aim for good looking guys cuz she thinks she cant get them.

THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF REASONS.

Remember boys, those really good looking guys with average women ae the same thing. they want to either practice temporraily, use her, make her do stuff for him, or they just simply dont have the confidence to think they are good enough for the hottest babes.
 

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Remember guys
" nothing is impossible"
Most people have fail when it comes to success because of not breaking out of limitations.

The problem is, with afc's being needy for a women and WATCHING TOO MUCH PORN.

What should you do about looks ?

Work out
change dress code
believe in yourself ( tell yourself you feel great about who you are and believe it )
grooming


Getting face lifts and plastic surgery is just stupid and a waste of money.

(This is when I was afc )

1 time I was pushing carts outside my store, I see this blonde get out of the car she was a hb8.9 or maybe a 9. She gave me strong EC and a smile.

30mins later
I was still pushing carts and she come back to the car with her family. I said you can just leave those carts their I'll get them. She BRINGS me the carts and gets close and gives me strong EC and a big smile.

Now since I'm in the field I think back on that. And other girls who have apporached me and was checking me out. I made me really think about myself.

In a book I'm reading
A man said he did plastic surgery, some people did better after the surgery. They view themselfs as winners and became winners. Other people didn't even see a change.

What the problem with looks ?

MEN NEED TO QUIT VIEWING THEIRSELFS AS LOSERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET SOME HOT CHICK.

Become a dj and you will be picking up as many chicks as millionaires do.
 

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Blackdragon5095 said:
Remember guys
" nothing is impossible"
Most people have fail when it comes to success because of not breaking out of limitations.

Become a dj and you will be picking up as many chicks as millionaires do.

very well put black D. somebody give this man a prize.
 

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khash said:
STOP TALKING ABOUT LOOKS.

whether u think looks are important or not does not matter. It wont do anything for you. Focus on what you have got.

By the way, Looks matter HUGE. Initially anyway, and the initial spark is very powerful as it is hard to erase first impressions sometimes.

I agree with the original poster. If you are not good looking, or at least not in a range that she is in, she wants something from you.

whether she is insecure and wants to boss u, maybe she wants money, maybe she feels like a loser and wants to temporarily feel good about her self. Something, other than true love and attraction. she might not have the confidence and not aim for good looking guys cuz she thinks she cant get them.

THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF REASONS.

Remember boys, those really good looking guys with average women ae the same thing. they want to either practice temporraily, use her, make her do stuff for him, or they just simply dont have the confidence to think they are good enough for the hottest babes.

You got a good post too. I get sick of listeing to men cry and cry about looks.

Again this is best way to change your looks and feel good about yourself.

Go to the gym
change style ( clothing, look good or cool )
believe you are good looking. ( As pook would say, as you think you shall become )
grooming
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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PUAs will always tell you that looks are important "to some extent", however - as far as looks are concerned - it's all about dressing stylish, showering each day and stuff, so they say.
In fact - as far as looks are concerned - it's more about facial structures, height,... than about a neat tuxedo.

So why don't PUAs tell you the truth?

Simple answer: 'cause genetical features like facial structures or height can't be changed.
If these PUAs admitted, that there is something very important that can't be changed, they would dissapoint a lot of ppl here and the whole theory wouldn't work (which says that every man (now matter how he looks) can get any woman he wants).
Now, if the theory wasn't appealing to some guys, those PUAs would make less money.

That's why they lie.

You can improve your overall looks by dressing cool A TINY LITTLE BIT, but if your face looks like the 2nd World War has taken place on it, then go into the basement and crie or believe your "it's all about attitude"-fairy tales.
Clothing is overrated and the look of a man's face is underrated by far.
 

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I know a man personally who is short bald and a tad overweight as well and he attracts many gorgeous young babes, the only problem for him is me, we are friends, but as I am better looking and just as confident as he is himself I can often snatch his girls away from him, he hates this as you would expect.
If I myself looked like he does I would never be able to even talk to a pretty girl let alone win them over like he does, so I have to respect him for that.
I guess I am alot more self consious than he is but my own confidence comes from the facts that I like what I see when I look into the mirror and girls as well as other men have always told me that I was a good looking guy.
Gorgeous girls love the hunks, they always talk about, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Robert Redford, Mel Gibson, Robbie Williams, Justin Timberlake, etc, so what does this tell you.
Girls though are also emotional creatures and can be easily turned on by an unattractive guy who is ****y, confident and outgoing, but not if their is a hunky guy who is the same available to them, lets get things straight girls don't like hunks who are Wusses, they prefer the Average Joe's who are ****y and confident, but they much prefer the hunks if both are on an even keel, can you remember which guys got the gorgeous girls on "Average Joe" it was always the hunks and the more outgoing "Average Joe's" like Zach hated it, :trouble:
 

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CONFIDENCE THEORY - LOOKS affect your confidence with girls THE MOST

WHY?

very straightforward simple example (of me):

there are plenty of days when I dont look too good, aka hair is messy, clothes is ugly, not shaved, or w/e, and lemme tell ya, i will NOT be confident in myself with girls who i look in the mirror.

however

there are days when im wearin somethin FRESH, do my hair nice, got a nice tan and everythin, and i shoot the mirror a look and i say "damn any girl would be LUCKY to be with s stud as good looking as you!"

and at that moment, i feel INVINCIBLE, because i kno in my right mind that im better looking that any girl im gonna talk to!!!

this principle basically works like this: if u think the girl is better lookign than u, u wont wanna approach her due to anxiety, but when u feel ur better looking than the girl (u dont have to be, but u have to FEEL IT), u will have confidence through the roof and ur gonna go pickup any grl that looks good to u!!

YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE YOUR DA SHYT AND UR BETTER LOOKING THAN THE GIRLS UR GOING AFTER!!! thats how u have confidence with girls

"but skip, im just NOT good looking, cant i find confidence other ways??"

NO MORON, while u may build confidence in other areas of ur life by other means, THE confidence to APPROACH any ****in hottie u want comes from KNOWING UR HOT SHYT.........how can u do that? simple

a) look in the mirror after a good workout.....like wat u see? if no, go work out some more!!!
b)put clothes on, look in the mirror....like wat u see? if no, go get some new better clothes!
c)look in the mirror.....like wat u see? no?? GO CHANGE IT TILL UR IN LOVE WITH URSELF

i GAURANTEE that KNOWING ur da shyt will result in u acting ****y, confident, and ALPHA

i been inconsistent with this in the past, as I have had days/nights when i go out, as i have gone out many many times before after looking in the mirror and saying "eh, u look alright/good, but damnit im not feelin IT".....wat i wasnt feelign, was that confidence of being THE MAN, and as a result i approached much less chicks when i went out and also had less fun

BUT when i looked in the mirror and said "UR HOT, U RULE THE WORLD SKIP", i ended up goin out and living it up like no tomorro, hittin on chicks left and right, # closing, kiss closing, 1 nite stands w/e it is u name it


p.s. (this confidence theory also applies when u are meeting someone online for the first time)
 

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I agree 50% of the time when I look in the mirror I have a LOT of confidence in myself and I feel I can pull any girl I want, where as 25% of the time I think the opposite, the other 25% of the time I think somewhere between the two.

I want to have that confidence 100% of the time which is what I'm trying to get. What I see one day varys a lot from others day so I don't know which is the accurate asumption of how good looking I am.

Any tips on how to like what you see in the mirror EVERY day? Also is this common behavior?
 

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Here's a tip - go out when you look like crap and start hitting on girls like you don't give a **** - you'll probably get laid.
Looking your best is good, but don't let your confidence depend on it.
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

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skip2mylou781 said:
WHY?

very straightforward simple example (of me):

there are plenty of days when I dont look too good, aka hair is messy, clothes is ugly, not shaved, or w/e, and lemme tell ya, i will NOT be confident in myself with girls who i look in the mirror.

however

there are days when im wearin somethin FRESH, do my hair nice, got a nice tan and everythin, and i shoot the mirror a look and i say "damn any girl would be LUCKY to be with s stud as good looking as you!"

and at that moment, i feel INVINCIBLE, because i kno in my right mind that im better looking that any girl im gonna talk to!!!

this principle basically works like this: if u think the girl is better lookign than u, u wont wanna approach her due to anxiety, but when u feel ur better looking than the girl (u dont have to be, but u have to FEEL IT), u will have confidence through the roof and ur gonna go pickup any grl that looks good to u!!

YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE YOUR DA SHYT AND UR BETTER LOOKING THAN THE GIRLS UR GOING AFTER!!! thats how u have confidence with girls

"but skip, im just NOT good looking, cant i find confidence other ways??"

NO MORON, while u may build confidence in other areas of ur life by other means, THE confidence to APPROACH any ****in hottie u want comes from KNOWING UR HOT SHYT.........how can u do that? simple

a) look in the mirror after a good workout.....like wat u see? if no, go work out some more!!!
b)put clothes on, look in the mirror....like wat u see? if no, go get some new better clothes!
c)look in the mirror.....like wat u see? no?? GO CHANGE IT TILL UR IN LOVE WITH URSELF

i GAURANTEE that KNOWING ur da shyt will result in u acting ****y, confident, and ALPHA

i been inconsistent with this in the past, as I have had days/nights when i go out, as i have gone out many many times before after looking in the mirror and saying "eh, u look alright/good, but damnit im not feelin IT".....wat i wasnt feelign, was that confidence of being THE MAN, and as a result i approached much less chicks when i went out and also had less fun

BUT when i looked in the mirror and said "UR HOT, U RULE THE WORLD SKIP", i ended up goin out and living it up like no tomorro, hittin on chicks left and right, # closing, kiss closing, 1 nite stands w/e it is u name it


p.s. (this confidence theory also applies when u are meeting someone online for the first time)
Agreen upon more than 1000%. Most days now adays I look at myself in the mirror, smile and its not even conscious I just think, "damn I'm sexy". And I know its true. I mean writing this now I'm smiling thinking about myself.

this isn't arrogant by any means though, because I WORKED FOR WHAT I LOOK LIKE, AND I AM CONTINUING TO WORK. For example, I used to be nerdy, skinny (and not good skinny, bony skinny), and pretty fugly, had braces, wore nerdy harry potter glasses, bad posture, wore clothes that were just way to big to look cool, and had a jerry curl (yes I had a jerry curl lmao). Well I ditched the contacts, got gray contacts (not only does it accent my dark skin, but girls love them and ALWAYS ask if they are mine or not, which I usually respond with, "Well I bought em didn't I?" not some great neg, but again I don't really try to think about "negging" and **** anymore), cut my hair and got a dark ceasar (Short hair cut for black guys with waves in case no one knows lol), got nice jeans, shirts (gotta get new shoes again though, I keep ****ing them up), my braces off, keep my hygiene tip top, even got my ears pierced (small rocks really bring people to look at my face without them even knowing. Alot of people dont even realize I have earings that have known me for a while but end up liking them), started eating better, working out some (iso metric exercises etc), and my confidence is just out of this ****ing world, because I DO look good. Girls love to look at me when I'm out now, I LOVE to look at me, I'm not self conscious when I go swimming to take off my shirt, and even my class ring (its pretty ****ing sick if I do say so myself), is a great conversation starter. The only thing I really wanna do is bulk my chest up just a little bit more, and get a tatoo of a lion with the bushido around its main (I'm a leo, and the seven virtues of the bushido are something I try to live by for the most part), and even then I'm sure there are going to be ways to improve.

The point of that long paragraph? To prove to the ****bags out there that ***** and whine and even those who make those long posts saying looks mean nothing blah blah blah, BULL****. They matter, not all that most guys think it does, but they do, AND YOU HAVE CONTROL OF THEM. IDC what anyone says, chances are if you are not physically deformed, YOU CAN LOOK GOOD. You're fat? Lose weight and turn that fat into muscle. Trust me its hard as **** to go from skinny to cut, going from fat to cut should be easier. You're skinny? Go EAT RIGHT AND MAN THE **** UP. You have acne/zits/pimpels, GO BUY SOME S HIT TO GET RID OF IT. You're hair is dirty or too long? WASH IT AND CUT IT DAMNIT. There are only a few things that I personally feel you can't control on your body, one of those being height, and the other being your penis / limbs size. Besides that, for the most part everything else you can improve upon. Most people are just to DAMN lazy.

So skip, ****ing awesome post, its time for people to hear the truth, not what they want to hear.
 

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YesPlease said:
I agree 50% of the time when I look in the mirror I have a LOT of confidence in myself and I feel I can pull any girl I want, where as 25% of the time I think the opposite, the other 25% of the time I think somewhere between the two.

I want to have that confidence 100% of the time which is what I'm trying to get. What I see one day varys a lot from others day so I don't know which is the accurate asumption of how good looking I am.

Any tips on how to like what you see in the mirror EVERY day? Also is this common behavior?
Ask yourself, what is it that you Don't approve of right now? You don't like those acnes? Go get something to clear it up. If you don't like the color of your teeth, go to the dentist. If you don't like your hairstyle, go watch MTV or something (Why can't I be you is actually a pretty good show for **** like this), and change. You don't like the way that shirt fits? Either work out to make it fit the way you want, or wear a different style of clothes. Just start tweaking the things that you don't like until you DO.
 

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Espi said:
Convince a homeless person to give you a quarter...if you can do that, U DA MAN!
haha lmao

I think this is one of your best tips/observations skip
 

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yea this is a theory that applies to me - ur looks are VERY important, but moreso to YOU than to the women themselves!
 

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i agree with the original poster, though it's a bit overstated.

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Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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