Let's see some results....

[blinkwatt]

Obviously blink is going for aesthetic gains

Yes true,but when you put your time in the strength comes as well.

because maintaining 5% bodyfat is pretty unhealthy

Yes and no. When you drop down to the 5,6 & 7% region you can stay there w/ a super clean diet and cardio twice a week. Now when you want to stay at 3-4% around the clock,NOW THAT'S DANGEROUS! You have to starve yourself of food and water.

Blink, why don't you spend 6-12 months getting bigger, and spend another 3-6 months after that getting leaner?

I'd rather do it right the first time around. I don't like that whole 'bulking' and 'cutting' idea.

You could be at 175lbs and 7-10%bf which looks the same as 165lbs at 5% bf(which ive been told is really unhealthy to maintain, and also really time consuming especially if there's no point.)

Trust me there is a big difference between 7-10% and 5%.
http://www.naturalphysiques.com/cms/index.php?itemid=144&page=2

I appreciate your insite though.

 

[blinkwatt]

Yes, you experienced newbie gains in your first year. I gained 40lbs (no fat) in my first year too.

STEROID USERS WOULD STRUGGLE TO PUT ON 40LBS. OF MUSCLE A YEAR.

 

[Hockey Playa]

how do u post a pic btw

 

[blinkwatt]

how do u post a pic btw

On this forum you can't post a pic but you can host it somewhere else and post the link here.

 

[John_Galt]

Bulking?! There is no such thing in my "diet"! Just eat lean with large amounts of protein and you will gain pure muscle in no time.

You weigh 150lbs!!!!! You don't know anything about putting on "pure muscle". Get your ass up to 240lbs with below average body fat(Average is about 15%).

Funny how you make that comment yet I still lift more then you by looking at your workout journal,and I do more reps in my sets.

More crap that shows you don't know jack **** about it. You philosophy is over generalized crap.

Stop acting like you know what you're talking about. You're a 150lbs, you're still a noob of the industry. You just saying over generalized infomercial like advice. When you push over 200lbs (at a minimum) I might take a second or two to listen to you. I've been able to far excel past the 230lb mark(at 6') by not listening to the crap small people give as advice.

 

[BluEyes]

Hold on...

What if he started at 110lbs, would you still say he's a 'noob'? That's adding 40lbs of muscle.

Dude some guys, me included, have smaller body types. Everything is relative.

If you were 160 at 6'2 then I'd say you were a 'noob'.

If you were 160 at 5'8 then you obviously have some muscle on your frame.

 

[John_Galt]

What if he started at 110lbs, would you still say he's a 'noob'? That's adding 40lbs of muscle.

Yes. If he weighed a 110lbs he should be putting on a TON of muscle because he'd be going from starving Ethiopian to a a citizen of a G8 country. Putting on muscle is like the total opposite of taking fat off. When your losing weight, the first parts easy, but the last few pounds are the toughest. When putting on muscle, the first muscles you put on are the easiest, after that it's tough. Putting on big muscle consistently requires you to know stuff. He's 150lbs. I have 4 inches and 80lbs on him. And the sad part is he probably bench presses more than me. He's a total noob.

I also think he's a noob because the way he talks about things is just over generalized crap, "Eat lots of protein" "I lift more weight than you and do more sets". It's stupid and generalized.

 

[Warboss Alex]

If you want 30 lbs. of muscle, that can take 2-3 years.

If the trainee is still in the beginning stages of lifting (first year or so) that is achievable in a year or fifteen months.. of course if you're an advanced guy it could take 3 years.

But most people on this board would be happy with 30lbs of muscle or less plus a little lower bodyfat. If they read and get their act together they can do it in a year. And yes, I stand by that - anyone can gain 30lbs in a year IF everything is dialled in and the lifter is genetically average (99% of people in the world). But fear of losing their abs (which they won't), routine ADD, not wanting to do the cardio or eat the protein etc.. means it generally takes longer.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Well, everything has to be right as I said. A tailored routine, diet with very high protein intake, cardio done to enhance gains.. but it's still possible, especially in the beginner stage. I guarantee a beginning trainee can and will gain at least 25lbs in their first year if everything is done properly.

edit: and to be honest, 25lbs is an ABSOLUTE minimum. any less and you just wasted the best window for muscle gains in your life..

 

[spesmilitis]

Yes. If he weighed a 110lbs he should be putting on a TON of muscle because he'd be going from starving Ethiopian to a a citizen of a G8 country.

No, its not that easy. There is a reason why they are 110 lbs in the first place. That being said, there is no reason why anyone in the 100 lb weight can't bulk up do a 150-160 lb weight class. Some people claim there there are 'harmone' limits or something. Thats BS.

Edit*Maybe its easy cuz we'll never have to worry about a 'cutting phase'.

 

[spesmilitis]

no reason why anyone in the 100 lb weight can't bulk up do a 150-160 lb weight class.

I take that back. More like, 250 lbs weight class
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=335148

 

[guayaballer]

hey warboss would somone who has been inconsistent with weight training and diet still be considered a begginer? like 2 weeks lifting weights then stops 3 weeks because of school and wrok getting in the way. will i still be able to gain that much if i start lifting consistently.

 

[Warboss Alex]

If you work out consistently for the year and you're doing everything right (given the info available, you have no excuse not to), then yes, you can gain 25-35lbs over 12 months of working out. 2 weeks here and there doesn't count, it's adaption over time that does.

 

[itishe]

Out of curiousity why were you guys congradulating espi when he admitted to using steroids?

 

[simon]

Because using steroids doesn't just magically make you huge. It's obvious that Espi has worked hard for what he has.

 

[Warboss Alex]

There's plenty of guys on steroids who don't look as if they work out. You still have to put the hours in, gear or no gear.

 

[itishe]

Doesn't matter, still offers a very high advantage to him.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Not necessarily. Not everyone responds to gear the same way - for some people it's not a huge advantage at all. Espi is lean and last time I checked, 220? 230? Even for the average guy who just wants to look good that's a great achievement.

Once you've built that kind of body, naturally or unnaturally, you'll know that you're being just a touch naive. Dorian Yates was on gear but did you ever see his training video - does he look like he's having it easy?

 

[6-heads lewis]

itishe, so what if it offers him an advantage?

dont all of us supplement users have an advantage over early bodybuilders?

are you implying we should reject opportunities for improvement to abide someone else's moral standard?

 

[6-heads lewis]

personally i reckon that most peopel dont use steroids only because they are too lazy to research the topic themselves, and instead just fall back on steroetypes and memes.

if most people knew the facts, had easy access, remained anonymous and weren't scared of going to jail, theyd probably use them.