Let's see some results....

[blinkwatt]

Incidentally I know everyone's bodies are different and there are a lot of factors but I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of results I'd see after so much time (like 4 months, 6 months etc).

If you put your heart into it and diet and lift hardcore(I don't focus soo much on sleep) TRUST ME,YOU WILL NOTICE!

As I say I know everyone's different, but even some slight idea would be great.

Good that you know that!

 

[mrRuckus]

Funny how you make that comment yet I still lift more then you by looking at your workout journal,and I do more reps in my sets. The only workout it looks like you do more then me in is squatting,but let me ask you this,does your butt come within a foot of touching the ground when you squat? I can do sets of above 275lbs. when I don't do full extension squats but only 155lbs when I do them the proper way. By the way muscle weights more then fat,which is why I weight 150 at my height. Have a nice day!

Aww, that's cute; did you look at my ramp up weeks from HST from months prior to my posting?

Yes, I do full squats. Any more ad hominem attacks or questions you'd like to use to try to discredit me and deflect that you're 150 lbs and giving advice like you're 225?

Or you could just thump your chest some more so i could tune that out and continue ogling your cute little boy body like the guy from family guy.

 

[Fuglydude]

Good to see we have some dudes on this site dedicated to fitness... Epsi, must say your back taper is pretty sick...i'm Jealous!

Anyways, here's me from our last photoshoot...yes they're professionally done. I use these shots for promo. Stats in the pic 5'8" - 165, bf%...no idea.

http://www.myspace.com/147255898

 

[blinkwatt]

@ Fuglydude,sweet physique!

Are you flexing in the pic?

 

[Quiksilver]

Hey Fugly, wattup from toronto m8

How long did it take you to get that physique. I know it's not huge and you're probably going for bigger, but how long have u been working out?

 

[Fuglydude]

Thanx guys, yes I am flexing blink...

Quiksilver, been training since I was 17. I'm 25 now...didn't really know/get serious about diet til about 3 years. I haven't always trained for aesthetics, as I was a competitive athlete in sprinting and sledding before. Been training for aesthetics last year or so. For this photoshoot I only had a week to prepare and I think I overdid the diuretics cause i do look a bit flat.

Most people think I weigh 185-190 (I'm 5'8"-160-165)... ideally i guess in the next little bit I'd like to be 175-180 and lean. I wanna get to 450 lbs on deadlift!

 

[lookyoung]

Since everyone on here acts like they are "hubbed up/huge/muscular" let's see who can walk the walk,and who is just talking to talk. Add how long you have been lifting,list supplements(if you are taking any) and you protein intake daily.

Here is mine,lifting overall for a year(had no clue what I was doing first 6 months),no supplements and I weight 150 and take in 200-225 grams of protein a day,no lifting within 24 hours of this picture;
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/blinkwatt/CopyofPICT0320.jpg

Blinkwatt your only 19. Holy **** you have great genetics. Wait untill your 24 if you keep working out your probably going to be at about 170-180 pounds. You will get that man build. Your going to be a killer. Your chest is a deep cut.

Keep up the good work.

 

[blinkwatt]

Blinkwatt your only 19. Holy **** you have great genetics. Wait untill your 24 if you keep working out your probably going to be at about 170-180 pounds. You will get that man build. Your going to be a killer. Your chest is a deep cut.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the compliment. I guess I could have good genetics,but I wouldn't count on it,no else in my family has put a foot in a gym or played a sport on a level worth mentioning. Just diet hardcore w/o cheating and never skip a day in the gym and anyone else can get gains like that.

 

[Flyer]

http://members.optusnet.com.au/simghost/images/march.JPG

age: 20
weight: 62.7kg
height: 168cm
bf:10.8%

I wanna get 72kg using the following routine.. (bottom)
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111248

Lifting since july last year.
on and off whey protein.. as i feel like it.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Flyer, you would benefit from a beginner's program and CONSISTENT use of whey protein, not 'whenever you feel like it'.

 

[spesmilitis]

I don't mean to bust on you but when you're 150 lbs wet would you mind not talking like you're some authority?

I think its ok if what you are saying is consistant with what successful people say. For example, wouldn't you agree that I should advocate squats and deadlifts with confidence, even though i'm 125 lbs and the person I'm telling this to is around 200 lbs?

 

[blinkwatt]

I think its ok if what you are saying is consistant with what successful people say. For example, wouldn't you agree that I should advocate squats and deadlifts with confidence,

Your diet and gym attendence are alot more important then focusing on squats and deadlifts. Don't get me wrong,they are great exercises but sometimes people forget that basics. In this case,if say you have your fundamentals down and you are seeing RESULTS then yes I wouldn't see anything wrong w/ advocating squats & deadlifts.

even though i'm 125 lbs and the person I'm telling this to is around 200 lbs?

Your bodyweight doesn't mean a darn thing,in some cases it is VERY misleading.

Thanks for chiming in.

 

[spesmilitis]

Your diet and gym attendence are alot more important then focusing on squats and deadlifts. Don't get me wrong,they are great exercises but sometimes people forget that basics. In this case,if say you have your fundamentals down and you are seeing RESULTS then yes I wouldn't see anything wrong w/ advocating squats & deadlifts.

Well, squats and deadlifts are the basics. I know that the most important thing is results, but getting the right kinds of results is important to keep in mind.

Before learning how to lift right, I got awesome results on the things I did (for example, leg press up to 550 lbs for 15 reps). However, those types of results were some what worthless to the types of results I wanted (size and functional strength for grappling). At least worthless to the results I'm getting from doing all the right lifts (squats, deads, rows, standing shoulder press, weighted pull ups, ect). The rate at which I was getting 'results' is the same, but my strength in grappling has gone through the roof, and whenever I have time to eat and sleep right, my weight starts to increase also.

Actually, now that I am thinking about, I am improving at a much faster rate doing all the right lifts.

 

[blinkwatt]

I know that the most important thing is results, but getting the right kinds of results is important to keep in mind.

Bingo! There are soo many different type of results that people looks for; for some it's strength,for some they may want a nice body and for others they may do it to stay in shape/healthy.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Your diet and gym attendence are alot more important then focusing on squats and deadlifts. Don't get me wrong,they are great exercises but sometimes people forget that basics. In this case,if say you have your fundamentals down and you are seeing RESULTS then yes I wouldn't see anything wrong w/ advocating squats & deadlifts.

Just a moment ... if squats and deadlifts aren't the basics, what are? please enlighten me: I weigh anything from 240 to 250 depending on the time of day and how much food I've eaten, at about 6'. I started at about 180ish at the same height, and I had to squat, deadlift, incline, decline, chin, row and leg press myself over several years to get to that bodyweight. Apparently I've done it all wrong and should've stuck to the basics?

edit: okay, maybe I was harsh. Blink, you are on one page, and I am on another. And probably so are Throttle, Espi, EFFORT etc. But I won't bring them into it. If you're content with being 155lbs and running for cardio, that is fine with me. But you have no idea about substantial growth (your pictures and posts prove this) so please, don't ever get on my case again, because growing is something I know a damn sight more about than you. However, that has always been my goal. If your goal is different - more power to you. Just remember, some folks on this board also want to grow.

 

[blinkwatt]

Just a moment ... if squats and deadlifts aren't the basics, what are?

What good are squats and deadlifts if you can't get get in the gym consistently?

please enlighten me: I weigh anything from 240 to 250 depending on the time of day and how much food I've eaten, at about 6'. I started at about 180ish at the same height, and I had to squat, deadlift, incline, decline, chin, row and leg press myself over several years to get to that bodyweight. Apparently I've done it all wrong and should've stuck to the basics?

There is nothing wrong w/ what you have done. It's just that people should focus on attendence and dieting before they can even start preaching to others.

edit: okay, maybe I was harsh. Blink, you are on one page, and I am on another.

I think we can agree on that.

If you're content with being 155lbs and running for cardio, that is fine with me.

Nope I'm going for 165 @ 5% bodyfat within 2 years.

But you have no idea about substantial growth (your pictures and posts prove this) so please, don't ever get on my case again, because growing is something I know a damn sight more about than you.

Growth can mean ALOT of different things. Let me ask you this,how long did it take you to get to 240-250? What's your bodyfat at? I did what I did in a 12 month window,the first 6 months I ate pure crap(fast food,donuts & so on) fooled around in the gym. Then halfway through the year I finally meet someone w/ good advice and the body I wanted so I finally got on the right track.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Yes, you experienced newbie gains in your first year. I gained 40lbs (no fat) in my first year too. Anyone makes gains the first few months they properly lift. The thing is, unless you're genetically gifted (I am to an extent, I admit this) your goal is going to be hard to achieve. I could HELP you achieve maybe quicker than two years but hey, you don't wanna listen to my advice.

As for my bodyfat, I have seperation in my quads and my top two abs and I'm content with them: the other four are hiding beneath all the pizza and ranch dressing.

I am seriously done with this conversation and you. It's friday night and I want to relax. If you have any more to say, PM me.

 

[BluEyes]

the other four are hiding beneath all the pizza and ranch dressing.

Classic.

By the way, the word Consistency is being thrown around alot here...If I was going for a lean, cut, etc, etc look then I would be in the gym Consistently 5 times a week doing cardio and all that jazz.

On the other hand, if I was going for growth, I would be in the gym consistently 3 days a week and generally leave cardio out, or atleast do walking only.

People can be consistent in their 1-3 day a week routine, and also can be consistent in the 5-6 day routine.

I think blink is saying that you have to be in the gym for 5 days a week to see gains. I suppose then rises the question of what KIND of gains.

Obviously blink is going for aesthetic gains, because maintaining 5% bodyfat is pretty unhealthy, and usually only done around BB comps.

Blink, why don't you spend 6-12 months getting bigger, and spend another 3-6 months after that getting leaner? You could be at 175lbs and 7-10%bf which looks the same as 165lbs at 5% bf(which ive been told is really unhealthy to maintain, and also really time consuming especially if there's no point.

 

[cuzza]

My personal opinion but 5% bodyfat looks disgusting. Veins everywhere, ridiculous seperation... it's not good, plus it'd be a hackoff to maintain. To be honest you look thin enough as you are.

 

[Throttle]

I never really added any significant muscle until I added squats & deadlifts. This is both before and after various efforts to "clean up" my diet, but adding those exercises had a nearly overnight affect that my friends and gf commented on within weeks.

as wba said, if those aren't basics, nothing is. I can eat a crap diet and grow, as long as I get sufficient calories & protein. I can take a month off, get rolling again and a week later I'm back on track. but without squats & deads, I'm still trying to curl my way to big biceps...