They're both equally responsible. Dude shouldn't of had sex without a rubber if he wasn't ready to suffer the consequences. In this situation the lady is dealing with the consequences by having the baby. Thats life. Life ain't always fair, but the OP brought this all on himself when he stuck his jimmy in her without proper protection. He's a fully grown man at that, he should of known better.ketostix said:I still say if a woman chooses to get pregnant and have a baby then it's her responsibility to do it with a male that wants a baby and wants to be with her, or it's her responsibility to find some other male that is willing to act as a father. If she can't/doesn't do this and can't be a good feminist and "woman up"and support her child, then she's a failure and her and her progeny suffer. That's life. Oh yeah, that's right society never holds females accountable for their actions ever. Nevermind, all accountability should be transfered to the male.
Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.
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FOOL !! that is the only reason NEEDED !!! It takes 2 to tango but Ultimately it is the WOMAN that has to undergo all the physical and emotional extremes of birth. It will never be 100% equal because it is IMPOSSIBLE. How can it be ?? If men and women could pick and choose who wants to give birth then yea lets make things equal but thats not reality.drmeathead said:dont give me this it is their bodies **** either...find a different logical reason please.
See that's where I disagree with you. You're sidestepping the first issue of a woman being responsible for the consequences of who she decides to possibly inpregnate her. If she can't choose the right male to fulfill the father role and keep him interested, then she is a failure and should suffer the consequences.MrStabAHo said:They're both equally responsible. Dude shouldn't of had sex without a rubber if he wasn't ready to suffer the consequences. In this situation the lady is dealing with the consequences by having the baby. Thats life. Life ain't always fair, but the OP brought this all on himself when he stuck his jimmy in her without proper protection. He's a fully grown man at that, he should of known better.
of course having the government interfere with your life and bossing you around sux !! that is why there are so many people on this forum who are OPPOSED to marriage. If you live in this society/matrix/media, you have to follow the laws..so we teach guys to avoid losing their freedom/independence/options.drmeathead said:i do think that making the man 100 forced to support the child is a bit much. do i think he should? without a doubt but because he is a stand up guy not because some judge orders him to pay.
I understand where your coming from but you know what...immigrants work jobs that EVERYONE else hates doing for the lowest pay possible. How many guys do you know, or work with, that ABSOLUTELY HATE going to there job, but the pay and the fact that they have a family to support means they will wake up everyday for years and do what they must. NO EXCUSES !! the OP may think its hell, but life isn't all a bed of roses. MAN UP !!! just because he's whining and crying that raising another kid is hell IS NOT A GOOD ENOUGH REASON to not do what NEEDS to be done.Andromax said:If he doesn't feel that he wants to go through this again, then think what you will about him, but he equating raising a child as an experience on par with 'hell.' I'm sure not everyone shares that sentiment, but why be miserable?
Walking away is better than being only partially involved. Let this kid atleast have a chance of having a father figure rather than a bio-dad that he sees every few years and a step daddy.