knocked up a girl i've only known 3 months

[frivolousz21]

no Im not a right wing lifer.

but when I was 23 the girl I was dating was pregnant...guess what?

I wanted her to get an abortion...she wouldnt.

so I had no other choice..seriously..your sitting here acting like well if you get the girl prego you can walk away and thats a man for ya.

get real....if she wont have an abortion then he is a nothing if he wont help take care of his child.

all he has to do is pay child support....and see the kid every other weekend.

seriously if he walks away he will wont let it go...the kid wont have a father..and he will know he is a loser.

the man was in his 30s..he wasnt tricked by a women..he is an idiot for believing her ****.

just like when I was 17 and told my 15 year old gf I love her for life to get laid..she bought it...what happened next if she got prego was on her.

he is responsible for his choice...if he wants to beg for an abortion..I am all for it...

if she says no..then he should of thought about this before I busted his nut in her pyssy.

 

[KontrollerX]

Friv you and this guy would not be losers for walking away if dealing with a kid is truly what neither of you want to do.

That loser title is just something society tells you that you are to reinforce their control over you.

Thats bullsh!t.

Now if once your girl had your kid you had some kind of change of heart and wanted to help take care of it and pay for it thats great.

Thats what you wanted to do.

A guy who doesn't share your change of heart though and does whatever he can to not take care of the child and doesn't want a kid and made that very clear to the woman that went through with having the kid is not a loser either because he is doing what he wants to do and not bending to societal pressure to "do the right thing" according to society.

A guy like that won't allow society to peer pressure him or back him into a corner to do something he doesn't want to do.

He stands up like a man for what he believes in just like you with your change of heart stood up for what you believed in by raising your kid.

Both you and the other type of guy have shown yourselves to be men who stand up for what they believe in.

You are not lesser for making the decision that you've made and neither is the guy who makes a decision thats different than the one you did.

 

[Bible_Belt]

That's fine unless you're the kid. One-parent household kids have it rougher. Having a father who does not want you is emotionally scarring. I have known plenty of fvcked-in-the-head women with daddy issues who would not do the things they do with me if not for those issues. You would not want that to be your daughter. And if there is a stripper without daddy issues, I am yet to hear of her. If your kid is a girl, in twenty years there might be threads here on sosuave about how she is a crazy bpd freak, or if you have a boy with no dad to teach him game, he'll grow into a miserable AFC. Maybe you'll see him on sosuave eventually, too, starting threads about he has no self-esteem and is a giant loser with women.

 

[NoSaint]

Chump, punk or ***** whatever you call it walk a mile in someones shoes...


I don't even have to walk away. She already did simply because I wasn't blowing sunshine up her @ss and being all happy about this. I wasn't being mean, I just have to no desire to smile and cuddle and say everything is going to be fine. Everything is not fine and I can't fake it right now. Withdrawn and pissed off at myself is what I am at the moment.



I'm not crying about ****. I know very well the difference between right and wrong and all that crap. And I'm smart enough to know its my fault. I'm not blaming her.


Relationships based on kids do not work. I've already tried that in my life. I did it for ten years and I know how bad it sucks. I even tried, sucked up how i felt and dealt with it. You can think they will work, they may for awhile, but they don't last. You end up those parents that one sleeps on the couch one sleeps in the bed or they each have they own bedrooms. Faking a smile and that your happy to be home again just because your supposed to sucks. Give it a shot for a few years and you will see just what i mean.

Is it fair to a girl and a baby to stick around simply because "its the right thing to do" and be miserable in the process, which makes everyone miserable or would it be better to pay the support and let them be happy together?






No this isn't someone else off the board under a different name. I've been a lurker here for years.

 

[DonGorgon]

Better get ready to pay that child support ....LOL You should have discussed abortion with her long before you got her pregnant.... When she is pregnant its too late...

Well good luck

 

[Stéphane]

Are you guys serious? Why are you replying to this troll.

 

[stand]

Anyone who's saying he has no responsibility to the child is a complete moron.

 

[DonGorgon]

Anyone who's saying he has no responsibility to the child is a complete moron.

yeh once she proves he is the daddy he will be paying..

 

[KontrollerX]

Anyone who's saying he has no responsibility to the child is a complete moron.

The only responsibility a guy should have in this type of situation where the woman tricks the man into getting her pregnant is paying half of the abortion costs and thats it.

If she wants to keep it that should be her problem not the man's who doesn't want the kid.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is the moron.

 

[stand]

The only responsibility a guy should have in this type of situation where the woman tricks the man into getting her pregnant is paying half of the abortion costs and thats it.

If she wants to keep it that should be her problem not the man's who doesn't want the kid.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is the moron.

Is it confirmed he got "tricked" into getting her pregnant?

There is a difference between getting tricked and just being dumb.

He is responsible, because it's not just her kid, it's his too.

Nice flawed thinking though.

 

[KontrollerX]

There's nothing flawed in wanting fairness for all people.

She wants the kid he doesn't.

He shouldn't have to pay for it or her.

She should take full responsibility for her decision to keep it.

Its thinking like yours that allows women to rape men in divorce court and get away with fvcked up sh!t like this.

 

[DonGorgon]

The only responsibility a guy should have in this type of situation where the woman tricks the man into getting her pregnant is paying half of the abortion costs and thats it.

SOO TRUE BUT SINCE WOMEN AND GAY MEN RULE THE WORLD THAT AINT HAPPENIN.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

The guy doesn't owe the woman or the kid anything.

Society might say he does but he really doesn't.

Some of you are still brainwashed by the unfairness that society promotes as good and justice when it is neither.

He told her upfront he doesn't want the kid by suggesting she abort it.

By her continuing with this it should be entirely her responsibility.

A man in this situation should always have some kind of legal right to sign away all of his rights to the child so that he doesn't have to deal with the woman or the kid he doesn't want ever again and doesn't have to pay one single cent of his money to either of them.

This may sound cruel or cold but it is no more cruel or cold than a woman and the courts forcing a man to pay her for 18 years and be attached to something the rest of his life that he had no control over keeping at all.

Trapping a man.

A man should have the right to be free of a child and a woman he doesn't want to associate with.

Completely free in a situation like this where the man was clearly tricked into being a father.

This is one of the most dirty, low, sickening, mean spirited, morally reprehensible selfish tricks a woman can pull on a man and it should not be tolerated by society and the law. There should be protections for men concerning this.

It ignites a vicious anger and hatred in me when AFC's say "Well he should man up".

He did man up by saying what he wants ie "Get an abortion".

He AFC's up by going along with this sh!t, or even marrying the girl and raising a kid he didn't want.

All things society these days would applaud a guy for.

Yeah thats healthy alright.

NOT!

Amen. It needed to be said. It is not right or wrong. It is the socially acceptable thing to do. Society is supposed to work on the whole but does it really? I am an individual first and a member of society second, I am concerned about myself and my wellbeing first and those around me second

I cannot believe that people are placing the blame on the man for believing a woman is medically proven to be impregnable and somehow gets pregnant. Is it his fault for trusting a woman he was in a relationship with? All of a sudden he is supposed to drop everything and become what he clearly does not want to be? Just because she might not have a chance for this dream to come again is he supposed to leave all of his dreams behind?

This is not some Disney Movie where everything turns out rosy at the end

 

[Sandow]

maybe she honestly thought she couldn't get preganant? I don't think she lied about that part. It really could of been a mistake by the doctor.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...This is not some Disney Movie where everything turns out rosy at the end

Yeah, we know what happened to Snow White when she took the poison apple from the wicked queen. Snow White shouldn't be held accountable for her choices.

 

[MooseGod]

Damn, this is a hell of a tricky situation. So many of these guys have probably never been in your shoes, so it's easy for them to pass judgement on you. I'm not going to be one of those guys. I had a pregnancy scare myself a few months back, fortunately she was lying to try to get me to stick around. I got the **** out in a hurry.

All of those questions came to mind though, and it's a lot tougher to be financially responsible for a kid when you're 21 and in college than 30 with a decent job. It's still a huge committment, especially if you don't want to do it, but ultimately it's the mother's decision. Probably the best thing to do is to keep things with the mother on a friendly basis. If you want to break it off romantically, do it, but remember to keep it friendly. This woman literally has you by the balls. But you do have a responsibility here, and it's ultimately your decision as to what you do. Just make sure it's something you can live with for the rest of your life.

 

[KontrollerX]

Definitely keep it as friendly as you can with the mother but if she tries to take you to the cleaners quit your job and get a minimum wage job so thats the only kind of money she'll have to pull from you.

You may not be able to get out of paying entirely but you may be able to get out of paying the amount she hopes for.

You have to make things as difficult as you can for garbage women like this and create hassles for them at every turn.

If its possible to get sole custody do that then give the kid up for adoption later.

Anything to win is the mindset you have to take because she doesn't care if she ruins your life or not and is in effect even more ruthless than you can ever be because a woman of this type is ignorant thanks to society feeding her entitlement beliefs and supporting them.

 

[DonGorgon]

Definitely keep it as friendly as you can with the mother but if she tries to take you to the cleaners quit your job and get a minimum wage job so thats the only kind of money she'll have to pull from you.

You may not be able to get out of paying entirely but you may be able to get out of paying the amount she hopes for.

You have to make things as difficult as you can for garbage women like this and create hassles for them at every turn.

If its possible to get sole custody do that then give the kid up for adoption later.

Anything to win is the mindset you have to take because she doesn't care if she ruins your life or not and is in effect even more ruthless than you can ever be because a woman of this type is ignorant thanks to society feeding her entitlement beliefs and supporting them.

HE IS IN A NO WIN SITUATION..

 

[KontrollerX]

Exactly Don.

Its a real shame what a joke the feminists and their AFC broken male supporters have turned the legal system into.

 

[drmeathead]

i do think we all have the responsibility to raise kids we create...and in more areas than just the pocket book. that being said, i do question the value of bringing someone into this world that would be raised by two parents that cant function together enough to raise the child. i am not talking about them even staying together either. i am talking about two people who resent each other and will undermine each other in front of the child. all this produces is a child with a damaged view of self and the world. i would suggest adoption, however, with the state of therapy today people seem apt to use the fact they were adopted to excuse themselves to a life of loser-dom....not all but alot follow this route.

my other point with the legalities of abortion, what happens if this guy was dying to be a father and was really ready to be an A1 dad. however the mother realized she would have to give up drinking and smoking for nine months and subsititute whoring around for diaper changing. the dad would have no say in the fate (murder?) of his offspring. however if the woman gets to have total control over a being she only half created. i personally dont think this is fair.